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00:00:09 nubbins`: yeah, pm me when you're ready

00:01:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 67 @ 0.00910189 = 0.6098 BTC [-] {4}

00:02:02 thestringpuller: nubbins`: did you get the mail?

00:02:09 thestringpuller: :P

00:02:19 nubbins`: yep!

00:02:27 nubbins`: everything looks to be in order

00:02:36 thestringpuller: awesome

00:02:56 thestringpuller: he forgot to mention to put a payment address in the signed invoice

00:03:07 thestringpuller: but I guess he felt that was assumed

00:03:27 thestringpuller: I will go ahead and pay the full thing up front (instead of half up front and half on completion)

00:03:59 nubbins`: sure

00:04:01 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: electronic recycling is indeed inefficient but it's coming such a long way...http://www.forbes.com/sites/susanmcpherson/2013/09/16/an-innovative-way-to-recycle-electronics/

00:04:08 nubbins`: i should be able to get that sent off tonight

00:04:45 thestringpuller: I just find it sad to throw away good electronics to a landfill.......

00:04:49 nubbins`: man.

00:04:56 nubbins`: 9 posters sold already, 41 remain :0

00:05:06 thestringpuller: posters?

00:05:09 thestringpuller: i didn't get the memo

00:05:12 thestringpuller: window 21

00:05:19 thestringpuller: >:(

00:05:28 nubbins`: ;;view 21351

00:05:30 gribble: #21351 Mon Aug 25 19:39:07 2014 nubbins` SELL 1.0 'What is Bitcoin?' silkscreened art print @ 35 USD (18x24", 5-color silkscreen on white Cougar acid-free paper, limited edition of 50, pre-order price only, shipping week of August 31, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756955.0)

00:07:17 thestringpuller: do you have a mockup?

00:07:41 mircea_popescu: nubbins` you're like an artist practically speaking.

00:08:32 nubbins`: thestringpuller: yes, but pre-orders are buying sight-unseen. you want pics first, you gotta wait for general release and pay an extra $5-10

00:08:39 nubbins`: mircea_popescu: artistoid

00:08:46 mircea_popescu: lol

00:08:52 nubbins`: i'm more a technician than anything :D

00:09:01 mircea_popescu: technical name for it being artistoid

00:09:07 nubbins`: nod

00:09:19 mircea_popescu: i live in wait of the day a doctor says to some poor woman somewhere

00:09:32 mircea_popescu: "miss, you had an impacted fuckoid in there we had to take out"

00:09:46 nubbins`: "you've got a bunch of fuckin tumors in your head"

00:10:03 nubbins`: casual doctor, where are you?

00:10:32 mircea_popescu: "you know i spilled my coffee earlier while spazzing @ facebook, which sucked

00:10:47 mircea_popescu: but it doesn't suck nearly as much as this phase 2 lymphomyeloma you've got"

00:11:21 thestringpuller: lol

00:11:22 thestringpuller: so bad

00:12:33 nubbins`: heh

00:14:57 thestringpuller: whatever happened to guy who wanted to make odesk

00:15:00 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=756884.0;topicseen

00:15:00 assbot: Ceibax - decentralized finance

00:15:00 ben_vulpes: nubbins`: no pics?

00:15:00 thestringpuller: i need to read that

00:15:09 thestringpuller: !s odesk bitcoin

00:15:10 assbot: 6 results for 'odesk bitcoin' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=odesk+bitcoin

00:15:44 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla he had me at "merkle tree financial group"

00:16:08 kakobrekla: this shit is gold

00:16:24 kakobrekla: they were busted for using stock photos with made up names

00:16:24 mircea_popescu: i kinda picture this overweight, sad guy in overalls sitting in an empty food court under a handwritten "TopModel Buttsex Initiation Group", looking all dejected

00:16:26 kakobrekla: and then

00:16:29 thestringpuller: Wu Tang should take Dave Chappelle's Wu Tang financial idea and make a bitcoin hedge fund.

00:16:31 mircea_popescu: then suddenly one day he perks up, changes sign

00:16:36 kakobrekla: >So our host confirmed, we indeed had a security breach. It seems a malicious entity swapped our image files - hopefully not more, I am not accusing you dogetime. I am not yet sure what exactly happened, but we will find out.

00:16:38 mircea_popescu: "Merkle Tree Financial Group"

00:16:42 mircea_popescu: sits there all proud now

00:16:45 nubbins`: ben_vulpes: no pics until the pre-order is finished :)

00:16:57 nubbins`: take a gamble and save $10, or play it safe :D

00:17:18 mircea_popescu: nubbins` you know you sound just like a simple mind psychopath by now.

00:17:22 nubbins`: hahah.

00:17:25 nubbins`: no kidding

00:17:35 mircea_popescu: wtf customer service is this dilemma bullshit.

00:17:37 nubbins`: !s simple minded psychopath

00:17:38 assbot: 6 results for 'simple minded psychopath' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=simple+minded+psychopath

00:17:39 thestringpuller: nubbins`: I should take orders on the t-shirts in btc :P

00:17:54 nubbins`: thestringpuller: it's the only sensible way to obtain btc, selling goods for btc.

00:17:58 kakobrekla: i guess nubbins` will send out blank sheets of paper and call it a day.

00:18:12 mircea_popescu: with a happy face drawn in a corner

00:18:14 kakobrekla: "white on white, very modern"

00:18:18 nubbins`: kakobrekla, i promised they'd love it, can't send blank ;(

00:18:21 kakobrekla: "has rounded corners too."

00:18:22 nubbins`: only some would love it

00:18:28 nubbins`: ;;ud white on white

00:18:29 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20On%20White | White on white describes the interior as well as the exterior of a car, an airpalne or any other vehichle for that matter. The paint job being whit...

00:18:36 nubbins`: oh, what? no.

00:18:52 nubbins`: ;;google white on white lsd

00:18:53 gribble: Erowid LSD (Acid) Vault: "LSD Purity", by Bruce Eisner (1977): https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_writings1.shtml; The LSD "Family" [Archive] - Opiophile.org: http://forum.opiophile.org/archive/index.php/t-26140.html; HowStuffWorks "CIA LSD Experiments": http://history.howstuffworks.com/history-vs-myth/cia-lsd2.htm

00:18:58 nubbins`: shrug, n/m

00:19:20 mircea_popescu: "hello is this xerox support center ? yes how do i set my printer so it prints the image of the onlooker's girlfriend ? what do you mean i have to take her picture first bullshit. what if it changes ??? i can't be running after all these people taking their picture incessantly. hello ? HELLO ??? "

00:19:35 mircea_popescu: nubbins from hell ^

00:19:37 nubbins`: heh

00:19:41 mircea_popescu: I PROMISED THEY WILL LOVE IT!

00:20:26 kakobrekla: its either love or negrate

00:20:29 mircea_popescu: btw, here's a free idea for our entrepreneurial friends :

00:20:30 nubbins`: IF THEY DON'T, WHAT WILL I HAVE BECOME?

00:20:41 nubbins`: kakobrekla +1, i'm really going out on a limb huh ;(

00:20:42 mircea_popescu: everyone's making cryptocurrencies, nobody's making decryptocurrencies

00:20:52 mircea_popescu: why the fuck not ? you can't have crypt w/o decrypt...

00:21:14 kakobrekla: and im not even thinking of -1. more like -8.

00:21:23 nubbins`: nod

00:21:38 nubbins`: ;:rate nubbins` -8 did not love a thing he promised i would

00:21:56 mircea_popescu: ::rate nubbins -48 delivered some paper which looked kinda ok but i didn't love it as promised, i loved amy instead.

00:21:59 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust nubbins` nubbins`

00:21:59 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask nubbins`!~leel@stjhnf0157w-142163082159.dhcp-dynamic.FibreOP.nl.bellaliant.net. Trust relationship from user nubbins` to user nubbins`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 18 via 12 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nubbins%60&dest=nubbins%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nubbins%60 | Rated since: Wed Oct 16 19:58:53 2013

00:22:18 mircea_popescu: o wow what a concept!

00:22:20 ben_vulpes: haha i love the text at the bottom there

00:22:22 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu mircea_popescu

00:22:23 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 157 via 92 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011

00:22:30 nubbins`: ;:rate nubbins -maxint i did not love but lust

00:22:47 mircea_popescu: ;;rate mircea_popescu 1 He introduced me to some hot chicks over the years.

00:22:47 gribble: Error: You cannot rate yourself.

00:22:52 mircea_popescu: scam.

00:23:32 punkman: kakobrekla: can haz reshipped poster?

00:23:43 BingoBoingo: !up mpmcsweeney

00:23:46 BingoBoingo: !up Blazedout419

00:24:13 mircea_popescu: http://www.chrishowie.com/otc-wot-graphs/trustgraph.php?source=mircea_popescu&dest=mircea_popescu << lulzy

00:24:14 assbot: g

00:24:17 kakobrekla: yeah, and make it all rainbowy.

00:24:43 kakobrekla: double rainbowy.

00:25:45 nubbins`: ok, this is getting a bit much

00:25:57 nubbins`: 10 sold now, that's 20% of the for-sale run

00:26:15 mircea_popescu: http://goldmark.org/netrants/no-word/attach.html

00:26:15 assbot: MS-Word is {Not} a document exchange format

00:26:32 mircea_popescu: s/ms-word/pdf/

00:26:34 kakobrekla: yeah its better when we dont know what we are buying into.

00:27:18 *: Blazedout419 puts blind faith in nubbins`

00:28:14 nubbins`: kakobrekla better for me, at least :o

00:30:21 BingoBoingo: http://thecynicalpharmacist.blogspot.com/2014/08/tramadol-supply.html

00:30:22 assbot: TheCynicalPharmacist: Tramadol Supply

00:31:32 *: BingoBoingo wonders where pankkake is for today's eventful day

00:33:30 mircea_popescu: don't tell me there's going to be a peak tramadol event

00:34:12 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You see after it became a controlled substance, all of it was held up in shipping, for stickers...

00:34:56 mircea_popescu: shitty cocktail anyway, no idea why anyone';d be using it.

00:35:25 BingoBoingo: Eh, before doctors prescribed it because it was an opiate that wasn't a controlled substance

00:35:50 nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/P3K7Mjn.jpg

00:36:08 mircea_popescu: a sucky one.

00:36:20 BingoBoingo: Well, placebo effect and all

00:36:43 BingoBoingo: nubbins`: Nice angle

00:38:18 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo is metamizole controled yet ?

00:38:22 mircea_popescu: more effectual than tramdol anyway.

00:39:35 mircea_popescu: o, that;'s banned. heh.

00:39:40 mircea_popescu: dude that shithole seriously...

00:39:47 BingoBoingo: Eh, happens here

00:40:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 118 @ 0.01169411 = 1.3799 BTC [+]

00:43:05 mircea_popescu: http://blog.chrishowie.com/2014/08/24/my-thoughts-on-the-als-challenge/

00:43:06 assbot: My thoughts on the ALS challenge

00:43:11 mircea_popescu: delegated.

00:46:17 BingoBoingo: Oh nice write up.

00:46:28 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin.

00:46:46 BingoBoingo: Oh, but I wear a hair shirt.

00:47:10 BingoBoingo: I am but a pauper kept here for the funnies.

00:47:55 *: asciilifeform would challenge BingoBoingo to pauper contest, if he knew what one would be

00:48:41 *: asciilifeform owns the shirt on his back and a large heap of various rusting scrap metal

00:48:58 BingoBoingo: My first impression seriously though that this might be the day the student loan holders tried to collect the balance on my kidneys.

00:49:37 asciilifeform: lol

00:50:15 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's the reason why I greeted the fellows at the door in the peculiar way I did.

00:50:26 asciilifeform: aha.

00:50:52 BingoBoingo: "The reason for this is in my jurisdiction failure to identify yourself in a law enforcement encounter is a crime of questionable constitutional provenance, while having a conversation with a debt collector or process server that consists of nothing on your part other than intoning "Fuck You" a myriad of different was is great justice for all and legally sound."

00:52:56 asciilifeform: i imagine there will be a trend, with folks suspected of having coin somewhere - having problems

00:53:35 asciilifeform: jurov: can't the purified Si monocrystal substrate reused to make another IC << once Si is 'doped' (actual term of art) it isn't pure.

00:53:47 nubbins`: i give it a couple years before simply being a regular in -assets makes air travel difficult

00:54:02 BingoBoingo: All the more reason to drink and gamble. Bitbet is a godsend.

00:54:04 asciilifeform: (pure Si is an excellent insulator. to get a semiconductor, you add, e.g., boron. this is called 'doping.')

00:54:17 nubbins`: !up mpmcsweeney

00:54:19 nubbins`: !up Blazedout419

00:54:27 nubbins`: ;;gettrust assbot Blazedout419

00:54:27 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-91.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user assbot to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 6 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013

00:54:31 nubbins`: !down Blazedout419

00:54:37 nubbins`: ;p

00:55:36 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo - theories re: wagen. a) they wanted to see if you'll pull the pin on the thermite. b) they thought you might have coin. << c. random derps wandered into with random derpage.

00:56:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 700 @ 0.00081884 = 0.5732 BTC [+] {2}

00:57:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if usg is walking 'the drunkard's walk', BingoBoingo is in some extraordinarily luck.

00:57:29 nubbins`: !s some cats dig my music

00:57:29 assbot: 2 results for 'some cats dig my music' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=some+cats+dig+my+music

00:57:39 asciilifeform: !s socrates is mortal

00:57:40 assbot: 1 results for 'socrates is mortal' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=socrates+is+mortal

00:57:51 mircea_popescu: not so. sometimes i think you fail to appreciate what drudgery govt work is.

00:57:53 nubbins`: gross, recycling stories

00:58:27 mircea_popescu: after the silk road thing, govt clerks everywhere are stuck following up. everything.

00:58:58 BingoBoingo: Well this conversation and the blog are in plaintext. If they want to go deeper down the rabbit hole, well next year's a time.

00:58:59 mircea_popescu: it's the fbi equivalent of being sent to direct traffic.,

00:59:42 BingoBoingo: Seriously though these guys made a nearly 5 hour round trip drive when... St Louis is 30 minutes away

00:59:56 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo nobody needed punishment in the st louis bureau.

01:00:14 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Or Peoria, Illinois is as boring as I suspect.

01:00:59 mircea_popescu: yeah, adult males often go for 5 hour car rides in the sun for fun.

01:01:04 mircea_popescu: it's a pairs sport.

01:01:22 nubbins`: well heat exhaustion is no fun alone

01:02:08 mircea_popescu: this is why the average redditard is sadder than the average inmate.

01:02:13 BingoBoingo: I mean I'll spend 5 hours driving in a car on a hot day and enjoy it solo, but to each their own

01:02:20 mircea_popescu: humans take great comfort in the sufferances of the fellow man.

01:03:59 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: drunkard's walk?

01:04:01 BingoBoingo: Well, if this blog post ends up linked on CoinDesk, I'm sure the FBI agent will read about it.

01:04:07 asciilifeform: ;;google drunkard's walk

01:04:08 gribble: The Drunkard's Walk: How Randomness Rules Our Lives: Leonard ...: http://www.amazon.com/The-Drunkards-Walk-Randomness-Rules/dp/0307275175; Drunkard's Walk - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drunkard's_Walk; Leonard Mlodinow - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Mlodinow

01:04:30 asciilifeform: fail

01:05:34 asciilifeform: http://mnstats.morris.umn.edu/introstat/public/instruction/catmouse/random.html

01:07:48 ben_vulpes: and what's the relationship to the usg at BingoBoingo's door?

01:09:01 asciilifeform: see also feynman's 'lectures on physics' vol. 1, sect. 6-3.

01:10:25 asciilifeform: (unrelated) gold and silver also stored in the IC << they get the Au out - chemically. in just the same way miners do. melting point of Si never plays into it.

01:11:23 mircea_popescu: "He was so sad. You know what Winchell was doing at the end? Typing out mimeographed sheets with his column, handing them out on the corner. That's how sad he got. When he died, only one person came to his funeral: his daughter."

01:11:26 mircea_popescu: ahahah pretty good.

01:11:43 mircea_popescu: hey all ye michael moore wannabes out there ? see winchell. he was the original libtard.

01:12:16 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i thought sinclair lewis was the original

01:12:44 mircea_popescu: hard to beat a dude pushing a telex key randomly to "impart a sense of urgency"

01:14:16 asciilifeform: telegraph

01:14:26 asciilifeform: pressing randomly on a telex just gets you - reddit.

01:14:39 mircea_popescu: lol

01:14:41 mircea_popescu: righy ou are.

01:15:04 asciilifeform: anyone here -not- build a telegraph as a boy ?

01:15:21 asciilifeform: and get a friend on other end, and key random garbage ?

01:16:03 mircea_popescu: i was being a doctor at that age.

01:16:10 asciilifeform: lol

01:16:20 ben_vulpes: i was hustling my classmates

01:16:25 ben_vulpes: and siblings

01:16:33 ben_vulpes: and parents for that matter

01:16:38 ben_vulpes: teachers too!

01:17:02 ben_vulpes: but i did build a crystal radio. out of which poured...random garbage.

01:17:12 asciilifeform: lol rng

01:17:29 ben_vulpes: trng!

01:17:34 ben_vulpes: "talk radio number generator"

01:17:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform fun factoid : one of s. lewis' stories (bongo) was stolen & rewritten by a romanian author a decade later

01:18:18 mircea_popescu: you should see this thing. i mean, there's this vast tradition in romanian of making incredibly sad and outrageously depressing stories the only fare kids are allowed up until about puberty

01:18:24 mircea_popescu: but this probably takes the cake.

01:18:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: (you probably knew) soviet 'fanfic' of devil knows how many famous works - e.g., 'wizard of oz', 'pinnockio', - was hyper-bestselling

01:18:46 asciilifeform: to the point that virtually no russian-speaking folks ever read the originals

01:18:59 asciilifeform: or even know they existed

01:19:50 mircea_popescu: yeah. well romanians never went that far.

01:20:32 asciilifeform: https://suite.io/fraser-sherman/zj528t

01:20:33 assbot: The Russian Wizard of Oz

01:21:03 asciilifeform: first work of fiction read by /me as a larva

01:21:42 asciilifeform: the brits, if i recall, actually did a translation to inglisch

01:22:11 asciilifeform: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TalesOfTheMagicLand << more detail

01:22:12 assbot: Literature/Tales of the Magic Land - Television Tropes & Idioms

01:24:49 *: asciilifeform when read the original finally, and saw the famous film, thought it was a cruel mockery of the Real Thing

01:25:08 mircea_popescu: "it's not stealing if you make it better"

01:25:27 asciilifeform: vol. 1 was mostly a barbaric rip

01:25:28 mircea_popescu: oldest defense to copyright infringement, seems to me perfectly valid.

01:25:40 asciilifeform: but from that point, it's almost a 'real' sf trilogy

01:25:50 asciilifeform: complete with aliens, death rays.

01:26:53 asciilifeform: the russian 'pinnockio' - 'буратино' - is an almost totally different thing. a kind of parable about chumpatronics (esp. in the animated musical rendition)

01:30:48 asciilifeform: http://www.stihi.ru/2011/03/01/1973 << one rhyme featured therein, with decent inglisch translation

01:30:48 assbot: , Engl ( ) / . -

01:31:36 asciilifeform: 'To get a braggart use no knife: But give his bragging a high-five ? And you possess his life.' (most 'winged' snipped therein.)

01:40:54 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

01:40:55 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 503.89, Best ask: 504.78, Bid-ask spread: 0.89000, Last trade: 504.82, 24 hour volume: 5394.69116707, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 506.98, 24 hour vwap: 502.765156743

01:44:36 *: asciilifeform had no idea this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Literature/TaleOfTheTroika had a page on tvt.

01:44:38 assbot: Literature/Tale of the Troika - Television Tropes & Idioms

01:48:43 asciilifeform: even this: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Animation/SuurToll has a page.

01:48:44 assbot: Animation/Suur Toll - Television Tropes & Idioms

01:48:44 *: asciilifeform floored

01:51:27 mircea_popescu: they're that good.

01:51:37 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/504083563491246080

01:51:38 assbot: Nobody thinks about the robot apocalypse when spec'ing out a sex android. They should. When the time comes, are you going to be the sub?

01:52:01 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0mTEVlJgC8 (the latter)

01:52:01 assbot: Suur Toll - part 1 - YouTube

01:52:46 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo what's time to do with it lol.

01:53:03 mircea_popescu: this time delusion is like the geek's favourite trope already. wtf, "when the time comes". the time came.

01:53:05 mircea_popescu: and went.

01:54:11 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I dunno yet. Maybe it's an abuse of Kant taking the imposition of time upon the manifold by intuiting and assuming that gives them... power?

01:54:37 mircea_popescu: either that or a wishful extension of the school environment. you know, "when the time for the exam comes". by definition that will be later.

01:55:16 mircea_popescu: little does school sally know or wish to notice that in fact her cunt;'s been bleeding for a while, and wanda the preteen whore's time is apparently long gone.

01:55:33 asciilifeform: exam >> http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/SZS_insane_animation_6005.jpg

01:56:22 mircea_popescu: lol. quite.

01:57:32 BingoBoingo: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/Roots

01:57:34 assbot: Series/Roots - Television Tropes & Idioms

01:58:19 BingoBoingo: !up tjader

01:59:19 BingoBoingo: !up Flerb

01:59:52 Flerb: Thanks

02:00:06 BingoBoingo: Flerb: You're welcome?

02:00:28 Flerb: Why was that a question?

02:00:46 BingoBoingo: Flerb: Why shouldn't it be a question?

02:01:24 Flerb: BingoBoingo: I was just thanking you for doing the !up

02:01:52 BingoBoingo: Flerb: But isn't it fun turning minor typing errors into games?

02:01:57 BingoBoingo: Fuck, the jig's up

02:02:14 Flerb: BingoBoingo: oh right

02:02:19 BingoBoingo: I gave away the seekrit fingerslip.

02:03:16 *: Flerb foolishly bought 0.05 btc worth of btm without understanding it

02:03:39 Flerb: Is there a relatively good place to start with assets?

02:03:50 mircea_popescu: the log.

02:04:03 Flerb: I've been doing BTCjam loans and getting quite good returns

02:04:05 asciilifeform: Flerb: also actually having assets is optional.

02:04:30 Flerb: asciilifeform: mhm

02:04:57 mircea_popescu: i've been crossing red lights and not wearing a seat belt.

02:05:48 Flerb: mircea_popescu: isn't that, maybe slightly illegal?

02:06:12 mircea_popescu: dealing with some thinly veiled online scam ? not really, no.

02:06:37 mircea_popescu: running it may be, maybe, sometime after the usg gets bored of taking half day rides to nowhere.

02:08:22 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mike_c van iframe css fixt

02:08:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:08:28 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski van iframe css fixt

02:08:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:08:39 mircea_popescu: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-x-GncY92Rg4/UUhaDDgulYI/AAAAAAAAFL4/syTWcQr2KYQ/s1600/A7018a.jpg << fuck swimsuits have come a long way.

02:08:41 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell BingoBoingo van iframe css fixt

02:08:41 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:08:46 mircea_popescu: and yet... cameltoe is older than they think.

02:08:47 ben_vulpes: ^^ all praise kakobrekla

02:09:28 Flerb: mircea_popescu: I think it would be

02:10:14 Flerb: Is crossing red lights without seatbelts an online scam?

02:11:10 mircea_popescu: Flerb we were discussing btcjam,

02:11:14 mircea_popescu: i thought.

02:11:26 Flerb: Oh

02:11:45 Flerb: Are you implying that the people who own it are scammers?

02:11:57 Flerb: Or people who borrow on it!

02:11:58 Flerb: *?

02:12:06 Flerb: Because some of them are scammers

02:12:10 mircea_popescu: no, i'm saying it. this is by no means news, either.

02:12:40 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: What kind of fix?

02:13:33 kakobrekla: so van ads in rolling now on bitbet - feel free to buy the shit.

02:14:45 asciilifeform: neato!

02:15:24 Flerb: mircea_popescu: so it's an online scam?

02:15:26 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: explicitly overriding the user-browser css body margin

02:15:31 Flerb: That's news to me

02:15:44 mircea_popescu: ;;google mpoe-pr list knew scams affraid ask

02:15:45 gribble: Meni Rosenfeld's vanity thread - Bitcoin Forum: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121314.0; TheLadders: How the scam works - Corcodilos: http://corcodilos.com/blog/3219/theladders-how-the-scam-works-2; Loper OS » A Review of MPEx, the Bitcoin Stock Exchange.: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1108

02:15:50 asciilifeform: http://www.van-ads.com/venues << why zero for bitbet ?

02:15:51 assbot: Vulpes Ad Network

02:16:13 ben_vulpes: nobody's bought anything to run there yet.

02:16:19 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=140484.0 there you go.

02:16:20 assbot: MPOE-PR's list of things you always suspected were scams but never dared say so.

02:16:22 asciilifeform: aha

02:16:50 Flerb: OK

02:17:13 mircea_popescu: ;;ident

02:17:13 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None

02:17:20 BingoBoingo: Bought a BitBet Ad

02:17:41 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes VAN doesn't recognize that keyid. Please try again with the shortform of your GPG/PGP keyid. << now wouldn't it be saner if you just took the last 8 ?

02:18:40 Flerb: mircea_popescu: says it isn't a scam per se

02:18:58 mircea_popescu: Flerb driving without insurance isn't a crime per se either.

02:19:04 mircea_popescu: just a very shitty thing to do.

02:19:13 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i've heard "last 8" i've heard "long keyids"

02:19:23 Duffer1: in the states it's a crime

02:19:33 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes http://www.van-ads.com/login/2FB7B452 << this needs a "here's a raw text link for if you programatically interract with this thing"

02:19:33 assbot: Vulpes Ad Network

02:19:35 Flerb: mircea_popescu: it is in the UK

02:19:49 mircea_popescu: Flerb Duffer1 fine, misdemeanor/felony if oyu must.

02:19:49 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: noted

02:19:58 Duffer1: :P

02:20:04 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: in the meantime, try http://www.van-ads.com/login/2FB7B452/raw

02:20:20 Flerb: mircea_popescu: walking on streets isn't a scam per se

02:20:29 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i click on but it logs me out ?

02:21:13 ben_vulpes: uh not parsing sorry?

02:22:10 Flerb: Should probably get my gribble thing sorted

02:22:33 Flerb: ;;help

02:22:34 gribble: The bot responds when you start a line with the ! character. A good starting point for exploring the bot is the !facts command. You can also visit the bot's website for a list of help topics and documentation: http://gribble.sourceforge.net/

02:22:52 ben_vulpes: question for everyone using gpg: when you want to look up your keyid, what do you do?

02:23:02 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i logged in. i clicked to buy, it logged me out, had to log back in

02:23:32 ben_vulpes: noted.

02:23:34 ben_vulpes: thanks mi

02:23:35 ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu:

02:23:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12601 @ 0.00069266 = 8.7282 BTC [+]

02:24:09 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes so how do i say "put the same ad i have running atm on this new site too" ?

02:24:44 mircea_popescu: or for that matter how do i say "what ads do i have running again ?"

02:24:51 ben_vulpes: these are all great questions

02:25:02 mircea_popescu: hehe aite.

02:26:41 Duffer1: Flerb - http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication

02:26:42 assbot: GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki

02:26:47 mircea_popescu: java.lang.IllegalArgumentException

02:26:48 mircea_popescu: Invalid format: ""

02:27:20 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes form totally has to prepopulate start date with today's date and end date with end of month date.

02:27:43 mircea_popescu: but i gotta say the on the fly part works fine.

02:29:37 ben_vulpes: ugh non determinisitic logout bug

02:29:40 ben_vulpes: what have i donnnnne

02:35:23 mircea_popescu: you probably are fucking up the cookie read or write somewhere.

02:38:42 ben_vulpes: no doubt

02:42:51 ben_vulpes: paha s//www

02:42:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7850 @ 0.00068769 = 5.3984 BTC [-]

03:04:33 mircea_popescu: http://mocholand.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/arline-hunter.jpg

03:09:17 TheNewDeal: if I buy a vanad for say bitbet

03:09:24 TheNewDeal: can I choose a specific bet page

03:09:33 mircea_popescu: nah, run of the site.

03:09:39 TheNewDeal: :(

03:11:40 TheNewDeal: is this site updating ? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/

03:11:41 assbot: Game 27 - Death 3686 Life 6314 Year 824 - War of Life

03:11:51 TheNewDeal: blockchaininfo says we are at 317499

03:12:40 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2014#809628

03:12:40 assbot: Logged on 26-08-2014 03:11:40; TheNewDeal: is this site updating ? https://btc.waroflife.com/gow/27/

03:12:40 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:12:48 TheNewDeal: but I wanna bet right now :(

03:17:05 TheNewDeal: bettin blind

03:17:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.EXCH] 31 @ 0.0217227 = 0.6734 BTC [-]

03:20:04 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: how is the 'impressions' figure generated ?

03:20:47 BingoBoingo: http://www.goldmark.org/netrants/webstats/

03:20:47 assbot: On interpreting access statistics

03:22:49 asciilifeform: link dead?

03:23:02 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: naively. whenever a browser requests the iframe, that's logged.

03:23:18 asciilifeform: aha.

03:23:38 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: one of the goals was to do away with the numerology of web stats.

03:24:19 *: asciilifeform curious if anyone aside from mircea_popescu is bidding

03:24:34 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo, a bit.

03:29:24 BingoBoingo: Oh, the redditards come out from the USG vegetable garden http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0klt5

03:29:25 assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared

03:30:09 asciilifeform: 'Molly-induced fantasy' << what is the 'molly' in question ?

03:30:29 *: asciilifeform guesses - hallucinogenic pill

03:30:37 BingoBoingo: ;;ud molly

03:30:38 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=molly | Abr. of 'molecular'. Pure form of MDMA (ecstasy), usually a free powder or in capsules. Oftentimes MDA is sold as molly. Should be white in color (...

03:30:51 BingoBoingo: Oh, just plain old MDMA

03:31:21 asciilifeform: Pure form << what is it customarily mixed with ?

03:31:32 BingoBoingo: Who knows?

03:33:27 ben_vulpes: meth and all sorts of other goodies

03:34:21 asciilifeform: ;;google marquis reagent

03:34:22 gribble: Marquis reagent - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marquis_reagent; Marquis Reagent Testing Kit | DanceSafe: http://www.dancesafe.org/product/marquis-reagent-testing-kit/; Bunk Police Drug Test Kit - General (Marquis) Reagent - Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/Bunk-Police-Drug-Test-Kit/dp/B00EDUN2I0

03:34:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.28755 = 0.5751 BTC [-] {2}

03:54:55 BingoBoingo: !up ragnars

03:55:05 BingoBoingo: !up lolsv

03:55:12 BingoBoingo: !up xanthyos

03:55:17 BingoBoingo: !up mpmcsweeney

04:42:12 BingoBoingo: More from the vegetable garden http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0n57a

04:42:13 assbot: ghtufjfjgjj comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared

04:59:48 BingoBoingo: %p

04:59:51 atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net

04:59:51 atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 586.41 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.48 TH/s

05:12:59 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

05:13:01 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 505.3, Best ask: 506.37, Bid-ask spread: 1.07000, Last trade: 505.26, 24 hour volume: 5294.87896913, 24 hour low: 496.79, 24 hour high: 506.98, 24 hour vwap: 502.965397866

05:16:26 TheNewDeal: wow thats a powerful fraudsters

05:23:06 BingoBoingo: I've come up with another theory... What if the government just wants to drive me crazier

05:23:42 TheNewDeal: sure you wouldn't be the first one

05:24:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12050 @ 0.00069266 = 8.3466 BTC [+]

05:28:47 ben_vulpes: BingoBoingo: you gotta get out of the states, man.

05:32:10 BingoBoingo: If I hurry out not I'd probably find myself zipping into a duffel bag before taking a shower or something. Gotta let boredom encompass first.

05:33:48 BingoBoingo: You have to realize the most recent blog post was the most rational of possible self defense measures.

05:35:42 BingoBoingo: Any impression I might be intentionally hiding the connection between myself and my slave name specifically from law enforcement is gone.

05:36:03 ben_vulpes: lol slave name u so dramatic

05:38:01 *: BingoBoingo may have read too much W.E.B. Dubois in grad school

05:46:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8843 @ 0.00069315 = 6.1295 BTC [+] {3}

05:52:39 []bot: Bet created: "Under 15% difficulty increase before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1032/

05:53:26 TheNewDeal: ;;estimate

05:53:27 gribble: Next difficulty estimate | 25737909372.3 based on data since last change | 24383282753.5 based on data for last three days

05:54:54 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

05:54:56 gribble: Current Blocks: 317512 | Current Difficulty: 2.38446700388033E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 318527 | Next Difficulty In: 1015 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 3 hours, 32 minutes, and 57 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 25737909372.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 7.93988

05:59:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00082077 = 0.8208 BTC [+] {4}

06:03:32 TheNewDeal: seems like noone has set the statkes

06:06:15 BingoBoingo: !up stripykitteh

06:06:19 BingoBoingo: Hello stripykitteh

06:07:25 stripykitteh: Hello BingoBoingo

06:07:38 BingoBoingo: What brings you around these parts?

06:08:41 stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment.

06:09:19 stripykitteh: ThickAsThieves

06:09:34 BingoBoingo: Ah

06:09:54 stripykitteh: It's OK, I'm not chasing him for money!

06:10:18 stripykitteh: Just trying to touch base, but it's not urgent.

06:17:20 BingoBoingo: ;;seen ThickAsThieves

06:17:20 gribble: ThickAsThieves was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 hours, 3 minutes, and 28 seconds ago: <ThickAsThieves> distracted

06:18:36 stripykitteh: Thanks

06:19:06 stripykitteh: Might drop in later.

06:22:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 901 @ 0.00357458 = 3.2207 BTC [-] {8}

06:53:25 BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers"

06:53:46 BingoBoingo: If anyone wants to ride the impending wave of traffic

06:57:22 BingoBoingo: Not sure how I like the editor retitling me to an "early Bitcoin user"

06:57:43 TheNewDeal: makes you sound seasoned, imo

06:58:01 BingoBoingo: But maybe next year the cutt off for an early user is exposure before $100

06:59:08 TheNewDeal: im not seeing it front page for the moment

06:59:18 BingoBoingo: It's coming

06:59:31 TheNewDeal: it's not a general thing like you think

06:59:33 TheNewDeal: it's like age

06:59:37 BingoBoingo: Still "red" http://slashdot.org/story/14/08/26/0131200/early-bitcoin-user-interviewed-by-federal-officers

06:59:39 assbot: Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers - Slashdot

06:59:54 TheNewDeal: it's subjective, and relative to the age distribution in our environment

07:00:53 TheNewDeal: and bitcoin age is like reverse exponential. even a few months of exposure at the very beginning set you light years ahead of people like myself

07:02:25 BingoBoingo: Well, a lot of it too is the pain of not holding onto the things early enough

07:08:01 BingoBoingo: I'm going to take a walk up to the gas station and see if the conversation there turns out any better than reddit

07:11:13 TheNewDeal: reddit is a joke upon itself

07:15:01 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell bingoboingo http://soylentnews.org

07:15:02 assbot: SoylentNews: SoylentNews is people

07:15:02 gribble: The operation succeeded.

07:48:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 62131 @ 0.00069135 = 42.9543 BTC [-] {3}

08:05:34 Vexual: thats the most interesting thing ive read for a while

08:08:42 pankkake: BingoBoingo what eventful day?

08:08:50 pankkake: I have trouble keeping up

08:09:09 BingoBoingo: pankkake: Oh, the FBI, treasury department. In my front yard.

08:10:06 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ben_vulpes What about soylent news?

08:10:06 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:12:31 pankkake: supposed slashdot competitor, comments aren't very good either

08:12:39 BingoBoingo: Ah

08:16:32 Vexual: what did they look like? siezing coins is easy or oh fuck it's not ross?

08:19:00 BingoBoingo: Eh, they looked like two dudes in polo shirts dressed for golf

08:19:20 pankkake: I knew it. I never trusted guys in polo shirts

08:20:50 BingoBoingo: So about 300 hits from the /. in the first hour according to Wordpress

08:21:16 Vexual: niki minaj eat your heart out

08:21:33 pankkake: can't the guy send you a letter instead of showing up unnatended?

08:21:43 pankkake: that's just impolite

08:22:37 BingoBoingo: pankkake: Well it was two guys. An FBI agent and a department of the Treasury agent

08:23:13 BingoBoingo: But yes, a letter or GPG signed email would be prefered

08:24:36 Vexual: that wouldn't have scared you into behaving in court

08:30:58 BingoBoingo: Well http://van-ads.com/venues shows only 0.01666 bid so far for advertising on the site today, and most of Murica is still asleep so... If anyone wants to hit that market...

08:30:59 assbot: Vulpes Ad Network

08:31:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29973 @ 0.00069051 = 20.6967 BTC [-]

08:32:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6877 @ 0.0006902 = 4.7465 BTC [-]

08:32:43 RagnarDanneskjol: https://github.com/LaurentMT/bargaining_protocol

08:32:44 assbot: LaurentMT/bargaining_protocol GitHub

08:34:01 RagnarDanneskjol: kinda neat - from here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=754755.0

08:34:01 assbot: [PoC][Draft] The Bargaining Protocol (when BIP70 met the Bazaar)

08:41:30 []bot: Bet placed: 3.08800157 BTC for Yes on "Under 15% difficulty increase before 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1032/ Odds: 99(Y):1(N) by coin, 99(Y):1(N) by weight. Total bet: 3.18800157 BTC. Current weight: 99,905.

08:42:42 pankkake: lol, what's the point of this bet

08:46:31 Vexual: its a bet that bitfury wont get handed another $20 million by nye

08:46:50 Vexual: 40?

08:47:09 Vexual: ;;google 45dd silicone

08:47:09 gribble: Summary - Fda - Food and Drug Administration: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/cdrh_docs/pdf11/K111747.pdf; 46DD Bras | Bare Necessities: http://www.barenecessities.com/46DD-Bras_catalog_nxs,31,size,1070.htm; B to DD Breast Augmentation Before and After Photos - Breast ...: http://www.breastimplantsusa.com/before-after-photos/breast-augmentation/size/B-to-DD.htm

08:51:26 Vexual: weirder shit happens

08:56:41 Vexual: mr avalon himslef is back hashing at ozcoin,theres hashes coming verywheres

08:59:21 Vexual: that haz my karma index up

09:01:42 Vexual: ;;seen truffles

09:01:43 gribble: truffles was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 19 weeks, 3 days, 12 hours, 44 minutes, and 42 seconds ago: <truffles> tell me when the experiment is over

09:13:09 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk perhaps graet might open a pipe to iceland

09:13:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45850 @ 0.00068988 = 31.631 BTC [-] {2}

09:18:13 Vexual: sure as shit the guy has some capital losses

09:30:00 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j4f8cHBIM white on white

09:44:05 pankkake: https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2014/08/the_problems_wi_4.html lol schneier calls it a "good post"

09:44:06 assbot: Schneier on Security: The Problems with PGP

09:46:19 pankkake: http://www.bortzmeyer.org/securite-facilite.html good article if you can read this glorious language

09:46:20 assbot: Blog Stphane Bortzmeyer: Scurit, facilit d'usage, et les utilisateurs non-informaticiens

09:48:12 Vexual: what does it say?

09:50:22 pankkake: some of my pet peeves, that the issue with security and encryption won't be solved by magical dumbed down GUIs

09:51:50 Vexual: no, the french one

09:54:30 pankkake: yes, that one

09:54:34 Vexual: oh

09:57:55 Vexual: namaste

10:07:49 mircea_popescu: %p

10:07:52 atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net

10:07:52 atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 852.12 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 1.15 TH/s

10:08:06 mircea_popescu: hm.

10:09:56 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: lol slave name u so dramatic << made me lol too.

10:10:09 mircea_popescu: methinks he is trying to appear crazier than i!

10:10:31 Vexual: that was bingo

10:10:46 mircea_popescu: Vexual yeah sorry vex, he's got you beat.

10:10:55 Vexual: really?

10:11:08 Vexual: i dont know

10:11:21 mircea_popescu: stripykitteh: I'm a small-time btc investor. I know (by reputation mostly) some of the regulars here. I was just wanting to see if one of them is active at the moment. <<< with a name like that, you know what i thought she wants. but then, imagine my surprise when a twist appears!

10:11:24 Vexual: im a bit behind

10:11:41 mircea_popescu: Vexual "you're not a little behind to us ; you're a large one" :D

10:11:59 Vexual: urd urd

10:12:03 Vexual: yes yes

10:12:27 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Just got the email in "[Slashdot] Your Slashdot submission is on the front page! Early Bitcoin User Interviewed By Federal Officers" <<< if you had a podcast and made slashdot fp two times less, you'd practically be antonopopo guy.

10:12:36 mircea_popescu: but no, you had to go and ruin it.

10:14:42 mircea_popescu: pankkake: I knew it. I never trusted guys in polo shirts << i never trust women wearing panties.

10:17:21 mircea_popescu: pankkake re the article, which is not bad if banal (sure, ease of use is completely orthogonal to the discussion , big whoop) the one question in my mind is why write in french if all the sources one quotes are in english.

10:18:11 pankkake: he wrote some articles in English, I don't think they had much following. I suppose it's because of the existing (significant) readership

10:20:03 mircea_popescu: ic.

10:20:18 mircea_popescu: but then... he shoul;d prolly translate the references ?

10:20:28 mircea_popescu: how are these people going to understand wtf is the context if they cant read english.

10:21:03 mircea_popescu: (don't mind me, it's like a point i've been doing a lot of thinking on so i guess oversensitized)

10:21:06 pankkake: it's more of a silly prideful refusal to read things in English. but since they started reading the main article, they might read the links

10:21:23 pankkake: or lazyness I don't know

10:21:30 mircea_popescu: hm.

10:22:03 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo lol at the b-a haters making throwaway reddit accts to shit on your post. THIS IS HOW TO WIN!

10:25:40 mircea_popescu: There once was a bishop from Birmingham who deflowered young girls while confirming 'em. As they knelt on the hassock he lifted his cassock and slipped his episcopal worm in 'em.

10:25:58 Vexual: gasp

10:26:30 mircea_popescu: There once was a clergyman's daughter who detested the pony he bought her 'till she found that its dong was as hard and as long as the prayers her father had taught her.

10:27:25 Vexual: oh no u didn

10:28:29 Vexual: regailing his life to his offsping

10:28:40 Vexual: a deadman was making an offering

10:28:54 mircea_popescu: These scions of the Noble House Kelley lived their whole life belly to belly because in their haste they used library paste instead of petroleum jelly.

10:29:15 Vexual: bwahahaha

10:29:37 Vexual: he got haldway through

10:29:47 Vexual: stepped in some poo

10:31:20 mircea_popescu: There once was a Duchess of Bruges whose cunt was unspeakably huge. Said the duke to this dame as he thunderously came: "Mon Dieu! Apres moi, le deluge!"

10:32:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19740 @ 0.00069193 = 13.6587 BTC [+] {2}

10:33:48 mircea_popescu: There once was a fencer named Fisk whose speed was incredibly brisk. So fast was his action the Fitzgerald contraction foreshortened his foil to a disk.

10:34:07 *: mircea_popescu waves at logreader peoples.

10:34:27 *: Vexual waves his log for no reson whatsohaveyou

10:34:57 Vexual: ejrtr do you find these gems?

10:35:31 Vexual: and what rhymes with offering?

10:36:04 mircea_popescu: smattering

10:36:21 Vexual: he said nah tin lids, im just jesting

10:36:49 mircea_popescu: There once was a gangster named Brown, the sneakiest bastard in town. He was caught by G-men shooting his semen where the cops would slip and fall down. << should be on bingoboingo's prison cell.

10:37:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7810 @ 0.00069425 = 5.4221 BTC [+]

10:39:11 Vexual: laser scanner, 3d printer, latex: $2500

10:39:31 Vexual: passing bad check with the cop who hasseled you face: pricless

10:40:49 mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Irene who snarfed up distilled kerosene, but she found a good bargain on a new hydrocarbon and since then she's never benzene.

10:41:10 Vexual: zingaling

10:41:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4500 @ 0.00069127 = 3.1107 BTC [-]

10:45:14 Vexual: while patiently waiting to travel

10:45:33 Vexual: an asset'er dint unravel

10:45:44 mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Louise whose cunt hair hung down to her knees. The crabs in her twat tied the hairs in a knot an' reached fame on the flying trapeze.

10:47:48 Vexual: and so shall my blog

10:47:53 Vexual: tell of you knobs

10:47:55 mircea_popescu: There once was a girl named Mcgoffin who was diddled amazingly often. She was diddled by scores who'd been turned down by whores and then laid out to waste in her coffin.

10:47:55 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

10:49:01 Vexual: polo maleets repla-ced by gavels

10:50:07 mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.

10:50:19 mircea_popescu: s/of/for

10:56:18 mircea_popescu: There was once a lawyer named Rex known for his diminutive sex. On arraign for exposure he maintained his composure : "De minimis non curat lex."

10:56:23 Vexual: here have a weird https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQZGPnn5b5E

10:58:29 mircea_popescu: There once was a man from Nantucket who kept all his cash in a bucket. His daughter called Nan ran away with a man and as for the bucket... Nantucket.

11:00:32 Vexual: thats a goodun

11:03:39 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgm6EYzwxpg

11:03:39 mircea_popescu: There was once a miner named Dave who kept a dead whore in his cave. She was ugly as shit and missing one tit, but think of the money he saves!

11:06:29 mircea_popescu: There once was a sad Maitre d'Hotel who said, "They can all go to hell! What they do to my wife...why, it ruins my life! And the worst is they all do it well."

11:07:29 mircea_popescu: There once was a son of a bitch, neither clever, nor handsome, nor rich. Yet the girls he would dazzle and fuck to a frazzle, and then ditch them, the son of a bitch!

11:15:30 Vexual: hi nubbules

11:16:30 Vexual: jow many cougars did you ruin today?

11:20:08 Vexual: hiw much to shit to rural oz from rural canadia?

11:23:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15400 @ 0.00068854 = 10.6035 BTC [-] {2}

11:24:35 Vexual: !up mius

11:25:27 Vexual: panic

11:26:47 Vexual: one foot on the grounded ery time

11:28:50 Vexual: a cuntess describ-ed by vitrue

11:29:35 Vexual: whose diamonds wheres purplish and blue

11:30:39 Vexual: went to the wrong house

11:30:43 Vexual: the poor little mouse

11:34:14 Vexual: but exploded and took with her a few

11:34:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3752 @ 0.000688 = 2.5814 BTC [-] {2}

11:40:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00075001 = 0.75 BTC [+] {3}

11:41:52 Vexual: not sure if i have enuff dev coin to cover all this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNbWSExg47Y

11:47:27 Vexual: dtones no longer safe on earth, war is coming

11:52:48 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FE194VN6c4

11:52:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16398 @ 0.0006872 = 11.2687 BTC [-]

12:00:17 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAQ9xQQHeQ dont fuck with the government

12:19:34 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgwhXDZDGRw all ladies shaved

12:25:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 805 @ 0.0008225 = 0.6621 BTC [+]

12:25:31 punkman: Βεξουαλ

12:26:05 punkman: o wrong language

12:28:16 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Qk2XIlHbeM

12:29:49 mircea_popescu: lol it's not vexoual

12:30:36 mircea_popescu: it's prolly Βεξyαλ

12:31:03 punkman: we only got capital Y

12:31:38 punkman: it'd be βεξθαλ actually

12:31:55 mircea_popescu: there's no teetha in blowjob.

12:33:10 mircea_popescu: punkman what do you mean "we" anyway ? you're not greek are you ?

12:33:33 punkman: kinda yeah

12:33:39 mircea_popescu: ahahh

12:34:11 mircea_popescu: well that changes things, i was derping with the squiggly letters in like articles and whatnot on the general understanding that nobody knows wtf they are.

12:34:18 mircea_popescu: ima have to get a different obscure alphabet now.

12:34:42 punkman: lots of them in the unicodes

12:35:03 mircea_popescu: ima start quioting raw, unadorned oriya

12:37:42 Vexual: please do

12:39:56 punkman: girl just sent me this retarded thing: http://www.inderwear.com/73-lingerie-string/4087-string-lateral-flash-rouge-alter.html

12:39:57 assbot: String Latéral Flash Rouge Alter

12:40:00 Vexual: the eyeshave it

12:40:11 mircea_popescu: ନମସ୍ତେ << namaste.

12:40:48 mircea_popescu: punkman you know what ? that's quite greek

12:40:49 punkman: is that oriya? irc client don't have enough font for it

12:41:04 mircea_popescu: may be the oldest cut in history.

12:41:09 Vexual: mine doeth but i can read it

12:41:10 mircea_popescu: punkman yeah it is

12:41:21 Vexual: *'t

12:42:21 punkman: don't think this cut works for underwear

12:42:34 Vexual: dont need it in the pradesh

12:43:10 mircea_popescu: punkman i mean literally, athletes 3500 years ago wore the exact garment.

12:43:21 punkman: orly?

12:43:28 mircea_popescu: pretty sure ya

12:43:55 mircea_popescu: well there were a number of cock dispositions, mostly consisting on tying it to one side somehow

12:45:14 Vexual: id wear trousers

12:45:33 mircea_popescu: trousers weren't invented yet.

12:45:55 mircea_popescu: actually skirts were not really invented either. it was either this or wear a sheet.

12:46:40 mircea_popescu: punkman http://www.inderwear.com/73-lingerie-string/12571-string-lateral-flash-argent-alter.html << much better example. total cuckoldwear.

12:46:42 assbot: String Latéral Flash Argent Alter

12:46:52 Vexual: sheet then, but im thinking of today, not 3000 yago

12:47:39 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58RSC7HO9aU

12:48:22 punkman: mircea_popescu: they did a lot of sport in the nude afaik

12:48:54 mircea_popescu: well yes, but you still gotta do something with the dangly.

12:49:07 Vexual: let it dangle

12:49:12 punkman: tie a string to it

12:49:29 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/1032/under-15-difficulty-increase-before-2015/ << anyone comprehend wtf the markov chains are on about ?

12:49:29 assbot: BitBet - Under 15% difficulty increase before 2015 :: 3.15 B (99%) on Yes, 0.04 B (1%) on No | closing in 4 months 2 days | weight: 99`765 (100`000 to 1)

12:49:53 Vexual: mining?

12:55:02 Vexual: its a thing

13:01:13 Vexual: moriarty fuck you arsehat

13:02:24 Vexual: ill spoon feed you kaka

13:03:10 Vexual: and take your wife

13:03:25 Apocalyptic: Vexual, is he still spamming his channel in pm ?

13:03:39 Vexual: no, that was for the other day

13:04:22 punkman: whos that

13:04:28 Vexual: sych affect

13:05:17 Apocalyptic: some random troll

13:05:39 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2VR9YJDQ5Q

13:05:40 assbot: Omar Faruk Tekbilek - Whirling Dervish - YouTube

13:16:35 Vexual: incite is okay

13:16:52 Vexual: what follows cannot be forgiven

13:17:12 Vexual: i will eat his marrow

13:17:58 Vexual: my dogs will

13:19:10 Vexual: ;;google alibaba mean tenderiser injectavle

13:19:11 gribble: No matches found.

13:22:12 chetty: http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/ukraine-says-russian-forces-cross-border-in-tanks-armored-vehicles/2014/08/25/8cb7d1d4-2c3f-11e4-994d-202962a9150c_story.html

13:22:12 assbot: Ukraine says Russian forces cross border in tanks, armored vehicles - The Washington Post

13:23:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32151 @ 0.00069085 = 22.2115 BTC [+] {2}

13:23:28 mircea_popescu: chetty unless they start crossing in frigates and submarines, they've crossed it in everything by now.

13:24:29 chetty: someone should write an obit for the ukraine

13:25:21 mircea_popescu: may be too soon.

13:25:38 mircea_popescu: this is only the... hm. 5th time it's divvied up by greedy neighbours ?

13:25:45 Vexual: wait till south china sea blows up

13:27:33 Vexual: rocks with fish can cause wars

13:28:36 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2011/platforma-unui-posibil-partid-conservator-roman/#comment-106644 << best spam ever.

13:28:37 assbot: Platforma unui posibil partid conservator roman pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

13:29:02 mircea_popescu: guy put his message through gt, ended up rendering Hello I am David Chambers as Hello I am David Rooms.

13:34:00 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRxYNTH-5Go

13:35:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2879 = 0.5758 BTC [-]

13:38:50 mircea_popescu: !up yhwh_

13:39:11 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCsyKspLQpQ nigger fuck yor couch

13:40:23 Vexual: i mean that in the nicest way

13:40:57 mircea_popescu: !up antonosika

13:41:34 Vexual: konistakia

13:42:30 antonosika: mircea, I have been too busy to follow the updates on ethereum, but I feel like finishing what I started. How do you feel about a 2015 delivery contract?

13:42:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8349 @ 0.00069281 = 5.7843 BTC [+]

13:43:20 mircea_popescu: alright.

13:44:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHCdS7O248g

13:44:52 Vexual: blondie. rapture.

13:47:24 ThickAsThieves: I see I missed stripeykitteh

13:47:47 Vexual: shes not chasing you for moeny

13:47:53 chetty: http://dailysignal.com/2014/08/26/suntrust-bank-chokes-3-legal-enterprises-government-behest/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social

13:47:54 assbot: This Bank Choked Off 3 Legal Enterprises. Is It Yours?

13:48:35 ThickAsThieves: mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored?

13:48:38 Vexual: thats the shittiest bank ive ever heard of

13:48:44 ThickAsThieves: worth it*

13:48:58 Vexual: you'd need a third kinda lawyer

13:49:05 kakobrekla: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv93erCIYAAZhuj.png:large

13:49:21 ThickAsThieves: well suntrust is southerners i think, they hate everything that happened after the 80s

13:49:42 jurov: kakobrekla lol where's it from? SAP?

13:49:44 Vexual: like trannies?

13:49:58 kakobrekla: lol dunno

13:50:16 antonosika: Mircea is it officially best to have all communication here in the chat for transparency?

13:50:31 ThickAsThieves: he seems to prefer that

13:50:48 Vexual: you what yo ulike antonia

13:50:49 antonosika: As you might have noticed my abilities on keeping up with irc are very lacking.

13:51:25 Vexual: ima dcc u somepin

13:52:11 Vexual: ooh u liek that?

13:54:06 ThickAsThieves: all i see is red http://exchangewar.info/

13:54:07 assbot: Exchange war: list of crypto-exchanges

13:54:30 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMOGaugKpzs

13:55:05 Vexual: cool shit tat

13:55:13 Vexual: never seen that

13:56:15 Vexual: ok coin changed 130000 bc for old money in the last 24 hours?

13:57:23 kakobrekla: cex has only 500btc volume eh

13:57:54 Vexual: yeah peole are well aware they might make off with te coin

13:58:42 Vexual: all kinds of lies

13:58:56 ThickAsThieves: yeah china bots it up hard

13:59:23 ThickAsThieves: but their order books arent any thicker than others

14:00:13 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmcA9LIIXWw bad bullshit is bad bullshit, punishable by death

14:04:05 Vexual: im not isis, im just being realistic

14:05:46 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7ld-3nZUxA

14:06:39 mircea_popescu: <ThickAsThieves> mircea_popescu do you think it's worth legally pursuing kate-craig over these BTCTC bonds she's not honored? <<< generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive.

14:06:48 mircea_popescu: so depends what your definition of "worth" is.

14:07:28 mircea_popescu: chetty what's "legal" mean ? it's a police state, if the govt don't like you you're illegal, full stop.

14:07:39 mircea_popescu: antonosika yes.

14:08:44 antonosika: mircea how do we proceed?

14:09:26 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv93erCIYAAZhuj.png:large << is this "preparing a new generation of bright young coders to take advantage of the opportunities offered by quantum computing" ?

14:09:42 mircea_popescu: antonosika how much were you buying again ?

14:09:44 kakobrekla: lol

14:10:50 antonosika: 3.0

14:10:54 antonosika: BTC

14:11:02 mircea_popescu: silenceisdefeat.com ? holy shit, bangalore marketplaces must have won.

14:11:18 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

14:11:19 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 510.0, Best ask: 510.93, Bid-ask spread: 0.93000, Last trade: 510.01, 24 hour volume: 6092.61347852, 24 hour low: 499.0, 24 hour high: 512.0, 24 hour vwap: 505.970175212

14:11:20 Vexual: i could drop by on my way to turkey to take my bride

14:12:22 mircea_popescu: ;;ident antonosika

14:12:23 gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.

14:12:33 mircea_popescu: antonosika first step would be you get in the wot.

14:13:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47500 @ 0.0006887 = 32.7133 BTC [-] {3}

14:15:00 thestringpuller: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2ekybn/a_law_enforcement_encounter_if_you_ran_a_bitcoin/ck0klt5

14:15:01 assbot: paleh0rse comments on A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared

14:15:04 thestringpuller: oops

14:15:09 thestringpuller: >:(

14:15:54 Vexual: lol

14:16:04 mircea_popescu: http://origin.dailysignal.com/wp-content/uploads/choke-point-high-risk-list.jpg check out the white house hate list.

14:16:12 mircea_popescu: travel clubs ? dating services ? coin sellers ?

14:16:29 Vexual: bingo dont bullshit much

14:17:01 mircea_popescu: escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!

14:19:44 Vexual: he gonna swear on his wot, not the bible

14:21:05 Vexual: disasterous

14:21:27 Vexual: find the gpd within

14:21:33 Vexual: &gpg

14:21:34 gribble: Error: "gpg" is not a valid command.

14:22:58 assbot: antonosika +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

14:23:02 chetty: <mircea_popescu> escort fucking services ? who is this nigger, a graft between everything johnson and carter had objectionable between them ?!// hmm what happened to the gun shops and churches?

14:23:18 chetty: !up antonosika

14:23:26 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDZX4ooRsWs 80 million hits per week, deal with it

14:23:31 antonosika: ;;ident antonosika

14:23:32 gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is identified as user 'antonosika', with GPG key id 86AC5789F93ED2E7, key fingerprint 71A1EC4E1B6C7DD853FD856C86AC5789F93ED2E7, and bitcoin address None

14:23:57 antonosika: mircea I hope you apoligize me as a learning beginner.

14:24:04 antonosika: What's more?

14:29:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zR6ROjoOX0 took iggy all year

14:32:24 ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> generally getting judgements against deadbeats is not productive. /// that has been my position so far. "worth it" would be getting the bonds redeemed for the bitcoins, or getting a similarly valued pile of cash

14:32:46 ThickAsThieves: i dont care about punishing her or whatever

14:33:28 Vexual: loar

14:33:58 Vexual: how much i sit?

14:34:50 Vexual: is she mining?

14:35:26 Vexual: doge?

14:36:12 pete_dushenski: ;;ud daffodil

14:36:13 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Daffodil | Daffodil. The opposite of a whore. A girl who is always good and never does anything bad and never gets in trouble. They always act like angels and get good  ...

14:37:41 pete_dushenski: also synonym for modafinil, "an oral drug that is used for improving wakefulness in patients with excessive sleepiness"

14:37:54 antonosika: mircea Please continue about how to proceed.

14:37:55 pete_dushenski: from the nicki minaj lyric...

14:39:53 pete_dushenski: "He toss my salad like his name Romaine, And when we done, I make him buy me Balmain"

14:40:32 pete_dushenski: "I wanna see all the big fat ass bitches in the muthafuckin' club. Fuck you if you skinny bitches, what?! Kyuh"

14:40:45 Vexual: 20 million in 2 days aisnt no shit

14:40:50 pete_dushenski: and this has been your pop culture otd

14:41:02 mod6: poetry

14:41:11 Vexual: imma play it again

14:41:48 Vexual: the one without her vid has 10 mill bit thats 2 motnhs

14:43:33 ThickAsThieves: <+Vexual> how much i sit? is she mining? /// roughly $70k. god knows.

14:44:01 Vexual: ltc gon south lately is that old money?

14:44:27 ThickAsThieves: ltc will copy btc during time of volatility and then die otherwise

14:44:29 ThickAsThieves: for now at least

14:45:05 ThickAsThieves: i still think chinese are running some kinda btcusd ltcbtc scheme

14:45:10 Vexual: is that your anal isis?

14:45:21 ThickAsThieves: yesuur

14:45:33 Vexual: half a pill?

14:45:59 ThickAsThieves: no thx

14:46:21 Vexual: cifermine is vetter off mining doge if they want bc

14:46:33 ThickAsThieves: they are better of mining gold

14:46:36 ThickAsThieves: off

14:46:52 Vexual: ltcglobal and shit

14:47:07 ThickAsThieves: corporate espionage

14:47:16 Vexual: i watch the rate make no mistake

14:48:44 Vexual: you're mainly concerned with the bond?

14:50:30 Vexual: ill bring my spreadsheets to court if you spoof my fingerprimts fpr a visa

14:50:38 kakobrekla: antonosika http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets

14:50:39 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets [bitcoin assets wiki]

14:51:44 antonosika: Thanks.

14:51:45 antonosika: ;;gettrust antonosika

14:51:45 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw. Trust relationship from user antonosika to user antonosika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=antonosika&dest=antonosika | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=antonosika | Rated since: never

14:52:24 antonosika: ;;gettrust

14:52:24 gribble: (gettrust [<sourcenick>] <destnick>) -- Get trust paths for <destnick>, starting from <sourcenick>. If <sourcenick> is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust

14:53:11 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RMQksXpQSk yeah im an expert cunt

14:54:06 Vexual: !up antonosika

14:55:51 antonosika: I'm a huge fan of bitcoin-assets and try to hang out here when I can. What is really needed to get auto-voice?

14:56:11 Vexual: scriptness at your end

14:56:23 pankkake: ;;gettrust assbot antonosika

14:56:23 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw. Trust relationship from user assbot to user antonosika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=antonosika | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=antonosika | Rated since: never

14:56:33 pankkake: you need l1 or l2 trust

14:56:48 pankkake: ;;rate antonosika 1 bitcoin-assets +v

14:56:48 Vexual: are you suchwow?

14:56:49 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user antonosika has been recorded.

14:56:54 pankkake: ;;gettrust assbot antonosika

14:56:54 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw. Trust relationship from user assbot to user antonosika: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=antonosika | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=antonosika | Rated since: Tue Aug 26 10:56:36 2014

14:57:05 pankkake: now you just have to /msg assbot !up

14:57:05 antonosika: nope I am not

14:57:17 pete_dushenski: "People are freaking out on Burger King's Facebook page over the burger chain's moving its headquarters to Canada.

14:57:18 pete_dushenski: The American fast-food chain has agreed to merge with Canadian coffee and donut chain Tim Hortons."

14:57:37 antonosika: Thanks Pankkake.

14:57:53 pete_dushenski: lol such patriots those bk guys

14:58:10 antonosika: Are there any good resources for guidelines on giving away trust levels?

14:58:39 pankkake: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/wot_and_reputation maybe

14:58:39 assbot: wot_and_reputation [bitcoin assets wiki]

14:59:44 Vexual: good dog

15:00:33 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr_uHJPUlO8 doge

15:03:24 pete_dushenski: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/article/505354.html

15:04:45 pete_dushenski: Russia Wants Bulgarians to Stop Vandalizing Soviet Monuments... to look like American superheroes

15:05:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31000 @ 0.00068585 = 21.2614 BTC [-] {3}

15:13:24 Vexual: pankakke, things have changed

15:19:17 Vexual: 80 million hits really kick sthe llamas ass

15:20:00 Vexual: 15% all year is possible

15:20:15 pete_dushenski: Vexual: big mebbe

15:20:30 Vexual: yeah big mebe big silicone

15:20:38 pete_dushenski: pankkake: http://www.bortzmeyer.org/securite-facilite.html good article if you can read this glorious language << mhm

15:20:39 assbot: Blog Stphane Bortzmeyer: Scurit, facilit d'usage, et les utilisateurs non-informaticiens

15:20:42 Vexual: id bet no

15:20:51 pete_dushenski: same

15:21:20 Vexual: but if it went the other way i wouldnt be too sursprised

15:22:24 Vexual: these people lost the marshall auction

15:23:55 Vexual: however 15% in december will melt some inut vag

15:23:56 pete_dushenski: who are "these people?"

15:24:09 Vexual: well whoever is buting hasg

15:24:26 pete_dushenski: i could see an average of 15% but that's an average

15:24:45 pete_dushenski: a hm not sure they're the same folks

15:25:02 pete_dushenski: i think the marshall auction loozers invested in exchanges and things

15:25:04 pete_dushenski: as they do

15:25:18 Vexual: yeah

15:25:26 Vexual: and they mine

15:25:28 pete_dushenski: there was that korean one, the mexican one, the indian one...

15:25:34 Vexual: ?

15:26:05 Vexual: korea gonna be playin elora soon

15:26:33 pete_dushenski: dunno. was talking about exchanges, payment processors, etc

15:26:53 pete_dushenski: i think the koreans will stick with starcraft for at least another 100 years

15:27:13 pete_dushenski: i don't blame them one bit either, it's not to be improved on

15:28:59 Vexual: how many korean play starcraft?

15:30:27 Vexual: 1% of those play shitty fuck on android too, its a big bad world

15:34:09 Vexual: i can dial up an multiplaey wad on my old nintendo and theres hundresds there

15:34:56 Vexual: !up Flerb

15:35:34 Vexual: !up Flerb__

15:35:41 Flerb__: Thanks

15:36:16 Flerb__: BTM's IPO just finished. Odd, buyers bidding really really low prices

15:36:24 Flerb__: Asks are at IPO price

15:37:42 Vexual: !down Flerb__

15:38:00 Vexual: !doen Flerb

15:38:16 Vexual: !down Flerb

15:38:33 Vexual: go back to denmark u horse fucker

15:39:56 pankkake: lol nice

15:40:08 Vexual: truth hurts

16:00:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.58638980 BTC to 15`044 shares, 10545 satoshi per share

16:01:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 9.61389968 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 836 satoshi per share

16:19:31 assbot: Flerb__ +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

16:19:48 fluffypony: oh no way - Richard Attenborough died yesterday

16:19:54 fluffypony: !up Flerb__

16:20:06 Flerb__: Thanks, how do I get to "level 2"

16:20:21 Flerb__: fluffypony, I thought it was David Attenborough at first

16:20:51 Flerb__: What do I have to do to establish trust with gribble?

16:20:53 fluffypony: L1 is a direct trust relationship with assbot

16:21:02 fluffypony: L2 is somebody-assbot-trusts-also-trusts-you

16:21:33 Flerb__: OK

16:21:38 Flerb__: So I need to rate assbot

16:21:45 Flerb__: Or something.

16:21:47 Flerb__: I'm confused

16:21:54 fluffypony: no, the other way around

16:21:57 fluffypony: assbot would have to rate you

16:22:03 fluffypony: or someone assbot as rated would have to rate you

16:24:07 Flerb__: OK. So can you trust me?

16:24:12 Flerb__: *rate

16:26:46 fluffypony: what for?

16:26:49 fluffypony: I don't even know you

16:27:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 110 @ 0.005 = 0.55 BTC [-]

16:28:20 Duffer1: are you Flerb__ or Flerb?

16:28:35 chetty: http://www.csoonline.com/article/2597556/social-engineering/fbi-issues-warning-about-creative-google-searches.html

16:28:36 assbot: FBI issues warning about creative Google searches | CSO Online

16:30:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.285 = 1.425 BTC [-]

16:33:20 punkman: deego: But, really, this is not the only one issue. I have had so many attempts at id theft here and irl that it's annoying beyond belief and I just wish to frigging disappear from otc. So, please do remove my ratings, everyone. :)

16:33:36 Flerb__: Duffer1, both

16:34:00 Flerb: Now I'm Flerb

16:34:00 Duffer1: i mean which one are you authed as?

16:34:06 Duffer1: gpg

16:34:11 Flerb: Duffer1, Flerb

16:34:24 Flerb: Are you supposed to actually do something to get trust?

16:34:30 Duffer1: ;;rate Flerb 1 a for effort

16:34:31 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user Flerb has been recorded.

16:35:04 Duffer1: you should be able to !up yourself now

16:37:02 Flerb: OK

16:37:04 Flerb: Thanks

16:37:11 Flerb: a for effort?

16:37:43 Duffer1: just a comment so i don't forget why i rated you

16:37:58 Duffer1: ;;gettrust Flerb

16:37:58 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Flerb!~Willdude1@unaffiliated/willdude123. Trust relationship from user Duffer1 to user Flerb: Level 1: 1, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=Duffer1&dest=Flerb | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Flerb | Rated since: Tue Aug 26 12:34:19 2014

16:38:39 ben_vulpes: damn BingoBoingo you're racking up the hits

16:39:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6497 @ 0.00068747 = 4.4665 BTC [+]

16:41:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 54 @ 0.0370184 = 1.999 BTC [-] {6}

16:42:28 kakobrekla: !up Flerb

16:43:23 ben_vulpes: <kakobrekla> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bv93erCIYAAZhuj.png:large << hooooo

16:43:24 Flerb: Thanks

16:43:40 Flerb: Didn't need it now though

16:43:49 ben_vulpes: now that's programming with time as a first class principle!

16:45:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 49 @ 0.04940815 = 2.421 BTC [+] {5}

16:47:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 200 @ 0.00250591 = 0.5012 BTC [-] {5}

17:16:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 47 @ 0.27094569 = 12.7344 BTC [-] {10}

17:17:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2672 = 1.0688 BTC [-] {3}

17:21:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13775 @ 0.00068757 = 9.4713 BTC [+] {2}

17:28:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 20 @ 0.05 = 1 BTC [-] {2}

17:29:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1449 @ 0.00083251 = 1.2063 BTC [+] {9}

17:31:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1707 @ 0.00085265 = 1.4555 BTC [+] {3}

18:05:09 assbot: Flerb +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

18:05:25 Apocalyptic: !up Flerb

18:05:30 Flerb: Thanks

18:16:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1277 @ 0.000861 = 1.0995 BTC [-]

18:27:37 BingoBoingo: !up Flerb

18:29:01 Flerb: Thank you

18:33:59 ben_vulpes: http://www.operationfabulous.com/advertiser/index.php?e=list

18:33:59 assbot: Operation Fabulous: Advertise with bitcoins.

18:35:05 punkman: heh http://opfab.net/still/

18:35:06 assbot: We're Still Here! - Operation FabulousOperation Fabulous

18:42:12 jurov: antonosika: you do SEPA?

18:42:24 assbot: Flerb +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

18:44:28 antonosika: jurov: I do. Why?

18:46:55 fluffypony: ;;ud Charzarding

18:46:56 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Charzarding | Oct 5, 2010 ... Charzarding is when you light a girls pubes on fire then put it out with your jizz and flap your arms saying "you do not have enough badges to ...

18:50:34 BingoBoingo: !up Flerb

18:56:27 danielpbarron: !up BlueMeanie4

18:56:40 BlueMeanie4: hey Daniel

18:56:47 danielpbarron: hello

18:56:59 BlueMeanie4: its a good article by preston byrne

18:57:02 danielpbarron: who is this preston byrne guy and is he in here already?

18:57:06 danielpbarron: ya

18:57:17 BlueMeanie4: he's a lawyer that deals in crypto space

18:57:19 BlueMeanie4: brit

18:57:40 punkman: http://fraudsters.com/2014/in-which-we-teach-basic-reading-comprehension-to-a-certain-mr-preston-byrne/

18:57:42 assbot: In which we teach basic reading comprehension to a certain Mr. Preston Byrne pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

18:57:42 BlueMeanie4: that whole gang of people are just making big problems

18:58:03 danielpbarron: i had a feeling i saw that name somewhere

18:58:21 BlueMeanie4: they kicked Charles out of ethereum then announce a partnership with his other project

18:58:33 BlueMeanie4: that doesnt sound sketchy at all, right?

18:59:58 *: danielpbarron shrugs

19:00:44 BlueMeanie4: what happened to Mastercoin?

19:01:45 BlueMeanie4: also Mircea - you dont like Preston Bryne?

19:02:14 danielpbarron: might want to use a ;;later tell -- he's not logged in at the moment

19:02:50 fluffypony: lol mastercoin

19:03:01 BlueMeanie4: you guys are IRC geniuses around here

19:03:20 BlueMeanie4: Vitalik was invovled in Mastercoin too, seems ppl forget that

19:03:25 BlueMeanie4: onto the next P&D

19:03:44 danielpbarron: i never liked mastercoin; counterparty always seemed like the better choice (putting aside the idiocy of a decentralized exchange)

19:04:16 BlueMeanie4: the ppl at counterparty are at least reliable

19:04:32 BlueMeanie4: yes there are flaws with their ideas, but it can be used for some things

19:05:05 danielpbarron: i'm getting use out of it

19:05:35 BlueMeanie4: yes their claims are reliable, which is important

19:05:46 danielpbarron: like how a boy gets use out of a toy truck

19:05:54 BlueMeanie4: ha yes

19:05:59 BlueMeanie4: good metaphor

19:06:20 BlueMeanie4: it can't be used for serious money making

19:06:41 BlueMeanie4: but Bitshares is just a nightmare con job

19:07:11 BlueMeanie4: re. counterparty- they are blazing the trail- let them do it and spend someone else money :)

19:08:20 BlueMeanie4: Rome wasnt built in a day

19:10:10 danielpbarron: the counterparty devs probably made out well with that project; the price of XCP is well over the initial burn price

19:11:55 BlueMeanie4: im sure they brought some in, it's not a crime

19:12:32 fluffypony: "After a whirlwind of bidding activity, a 9.0-graded copy of Action Comics #1 sold on eBay yesterday for a whopping $3.2-million, the most ever paid for a comic book"

19:12:35 fluffypony: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Action-Comics-1-June-1938-Supermans-Debut-CGC-9-0-Perfect-White-Pages-/311050328393

19:12:36 assbot: Action Comics 1 June 1938 Superman 039 s Debut CGC 9 0 Perfect White Pages | eBay

19:12:47 fluffypony: that's going to be a fun PayPal dispute

19:14:34 BlueMeanie4: i owned TMNT #1 at one point. sold it.

19:19:32 danielpbarron: ;;echo BlueMeanie4, get in the WoT! [eregister]

19:19:32 gribble: BlueMeanie4, get in the WoT! (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' (1 more message)

19:24:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44550 @ 0.00068663 = 30.5894 BTC [-] {2}

19:24:36 BlueMeanie4: ok

19:24:38 BlueMeanie4: so what keyserver do i use/

19:25:15 BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads?

19:25:44 *: danielpbarron has been considering buying an ad

19:25:59 danielpbarron: also considering buying nubbins`'s new print

19:26:22 danielpbarron: ;;later tell nubbins` you accept PPUSD for payment?

19:26:22 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:27:21 danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, whichever key-server is used as the default for gnupg (i think)

19:27:32 danielpbarron: !up BlueMeanie4

19:27:41 BlueMeanie4: ok

19:27:42 BingoBoingo: Oh, 4th customer. Forgot WoL

19:30:25 danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/ << this one

19:30:25 assbot: SKS OpenPGP Public Key Server

19:30:46 danielpbarron: at least, that's the one -otc references with ;;gpg info

19:31:32 danielpbarron: lol! https://twitter.com/prestonjbyrne/status/504350202002567168

19:31:33 assbot: Your own Fort Knox. http://t.co/KWtYswD7e0

19:32:00 danielpbarron: stupid assbot, this is the main part: "@danielpbarron I suspect I am beyond redemption on #bitcoin-assets. Send everyone my regards though."

19:32:22 BlueMeanie4: eregister BlueMeanie4 0x51587535

19:32:41 danielpbarron: ;;echo BlueMeanie4, don't forget the ;;

19:32:41 gribble: BlueMeanie4, don't forget the ;;

19:32:56 danielpbarron: also, leave out the 0x

19:33:06 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 0x51587535

19:33:06 gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.

19:33:13 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 51587535

19:33:13 gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.

19:33:23 danielpbarron: and leave out the 515... too; you want the last 16 or 8 characters

19:33:55 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 0x51587535 ;;

19:33:55 gribble: Error: '0x51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.

19:33:58 danielpbarron: the key id is the last 8 characters of the fingerprint

19:34:11 danielpbarron: ah, it wants long form

19:34:32 BlueMeanie4: last 8 chars of the fingerprint?

19:34:36 BlueMeanie4: ?

19:34:38 danielpbarron: last 16

19:34:52 BlueMeanie4: the fingerprint is 1FD2 7380 0859 479E AE75 77AD DCB3 74BF 5158 7535

19:35:22 danielpbarron: so try this: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535

19:36:10 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535 ;;

19:36:11 gribble: (eregister <nick> <keyid>) -- Register your GPG identity, associating GPG key <keyid> with <nick>. <keyid> is a 16 digit key id, with or without the '0x' prefix. We look on servers listed in 'plugins.GPG.keyservers' config. You will be given a link to a page which contains a one time password encrypted with your key. Decrypt, and use the 'everify' command with it. Your passphrase will (1 more message)

19:36:52 danielpbarron: don't end with ;;

19:37:09 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535

19:37:13 gribble: Error: Could not retrieve your key from keyserver. Either it isn't there, or it is invalid.

19:37:25 danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/ << this one

19:37:25 assbot: SKS OpenPGP Public Key Server

19:37:39 BlueMeanie4: this is very user friendly

19:37:52 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 51587535

19:37:52 gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.

19:37:58 BlueMeanie4: yes the key is up there

19:38:02 danielpbarron: where did you upload it?

19:38:04 BlueMeanie4: i see it on the web page

19:38:16 BlueMeanie4: http://pool.sks-keyservers.net:11371/pks/lookup?op=vindex&search=josh.josh421%40gmail.com&fingerprint=on

19:38:16 assbot: No results found

19:40:11 BlueMeanie4: no its up there

19:40:13 BlueMeanie4: isee the key

19:40:21 danielpbarron: hrm

19:40:46 TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla. << mircea_popescu could you introduce me to this woman

19:41:12 BlueMeanie4: weird now it doesnt show up!

19:41:21 danielpbarron: ok

19:41:23 danielpbarron: try now

19:41:32 danielpbarron: apparently gribble doesn't use the keyserver he links to

19:41:47 danielpbarron: i just uploaded your key to http://pgp.mit.edu/

19:41:48 assbot: MIT PGP Key Server

19:41:56 BlueMeanie4: how did you get the key?

19:42:01 danielpbarron: it's... public!

19:42:12 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 51587535

19:42:12 gribble: Error: '51587535' is not a valid GPG key id. Please use the long form 16 digit key id.

19:42:17 danielpbarron: longform

19:42:24 BlueMeanie4: ;;eregister BlueMeanie4 DCB374BF51587535

19:42:26 gribble: Request successful for user BlueMeanie4, hostmask BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/DCB374BF51587535

19:42:32 BlueMeanie4: WIN

19:42:40 thestringpuller: aw i wanted to bash that

19:42:52 danielpbarron: you can custom bash

19:43:03 assbot: Need a number of lines.

19:43:03 thestringpuller: !bash

19:43:04 danielpbarron: http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?add

19:43:04 assbot: #bitcoin-assets bash

19:43:15 danielpbarron: i mean copy paste it yourself

19:45:31 BlueMeanie4: ok so now ive got some hash string?

19:45:50 danielpbarron: ;;echo BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: [everify]

19:45:50 gribble: BlueMeanie4, when you get the challenge string, use this command: (everify <otp>) -- Verify the latest encrypt-authentication request by providing your decrypted one-time password. If verified, you'll be authenticated for the duration of the bot's or your IRC session on channel (whichever is shorter).

19:46:29 BlueMeanie4: i see

19:46:37 BlueMeanie4: that was fun

19:46:57 BlueMeanie4: this system is usable by about 20 people all of them have PhDs

19:47:57 danielpbarron: it's usable by those who are worth talking to

19:48:22 danielpbarron: if you can't do these basic things then why are you in Bitcoin?

19:48:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3842 @ 0.00068905 = 2.6473 BTC [+]

19:49:04 danielpbarron: anyway, finish it! ;;everify your-decrypted-challenge-string

19:49:25 BlueMeanie4: that's MPs take as well it seems

19:49:48 danielpbarron: it should be anyone's take who has a brain and doesn't like wasting it

19:50:04 danielpbarron: in my own experience, it's not worth getting people into Bitcoin that can't do these things

19:50:17 danielpbarron: they will need endless hand-holding and are constant sources of drama

19:50:26 BlueMeanie4: MSFT divides users into 4 groups

19:50:44 danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, finish authing!! you are so close!

19:50:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 239 @ 0.00278915 = 0.6666 BTC [+]

19:50:50 BlueMeanie4: i think this goes back to ancient times really, so did the romans

19:50:55 BlueMeanie4: what do i need to do now?

19:51:22 danielpbarron: scroll up; I explained already

19:51:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.28399999 = 0.852 BTC [+]

19:51:51 TomServo: +BlueMeanie4 | MSFT divides users into 4 groups << eh?

19:51:55 BlueMeanie4: ;;everify 840654f07c4296bd320ea97d2bff00e45b255d6e8185964e8585a5e8

19:51:55 gribble: Error: Incorrect one-time password. Try again.

19:52:12 danielpbarron: that's not the right one..

19:52:15 danielpbarron: where did you find that?

19:52:28 BlueMeanie4: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:840654f07c4296bd320ea97d2bff00e45b255d6e8185964e8585a5e8

19:52:29 gribble: Registration successful. You are now authenticated for user BlueMeanie4 with key DCB374BF51587535

19:52:33 danielpbarron: yay!!

19:52:47 danielpbarron: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 https://twitter.com/BlueMeanie4

19:52:48 assbot: Blue Meanie (BlueMeanie4) auf Twitter

19:52:48 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BlueMeanie4 has been recorded.

19:53:20 BlueMeanie4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFNLbAs3KAU

19:53:20 assbot: Snoopy's Happy Dance! - YouTube

19:53:38 danielpbarron: now you can rate and be rated

19:54:04 BlueMeanie4: excellent

19:54:56 BlueMeanie4: yes MSFT divided users into 4 tiers

19:57:03 jurov: antonosika: still buying?

19:57:57 jurov: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/08/22/artificial-intelligence-oxford_n_5689858.html

19:57:58 assbot: Artificial Intelligence May Doom The Human Race Within A Century, Oxford Professor Says

19:58:07 jurov: How to control superintelligent AI is really the most important task of our time -- yet, it is almost completely ignored.

19:58:20 jurov: got me a few good chuckles

19:59:08 jurov: Cognitive enhancement could take place through collective cognitive ability -- the Internet, for example, and institutional innovations that enable humans to function better together. In terms of individual cognitive enhancement, the first thing likely to be successful is genetic selection in the context of in-vitro fertilization. I don't hold out much for cyborgs or implants.

19:59:12 jurov: hue

20:00:15 antonosika: jurov: I guess. 5000 ether/btc

20:00:37 antonosika: What do you think about ethereum?

20:00:52 jurov: i don't sniff ether. i prefer euros

20:00:54 ben_vulpes: <danielpbarron> i'm getting use out of it << what are ya doing with cp?

20:00:57 asciilifeform: lol re: the notion of 'controlling' a hypothetical 'superintelligent' machine.

20:01:42 ben_vulpes: <BingoBoingo> ben_vulpes: Is Coinroll the 3rd Van Customer, or have people other than Mircea and Myself been buying ads? << the former

20:02:02 ben_vulpes: oh yeah, wol.

20:02:05 ben_vulpes: never forget!

20:02:10 BingoBoingo: Yeah, later I remembered the WoL buy

20:02:11 assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

20:02:24 jurov: !up BlueMeanie4

20:02:42 ben_vulpes: danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause

20:02:46 BlueMeanie4: jurov, asking me?

20:02:52 jurov: coinroll's just trying for few days

20:03:07 jurov: BlueMeanie4 no just noticed you were trying

20:04:08 BingoBoingo: http://www.fiercepharmamanufacturing.com/story/teva-recalls-parkinsons-disease-drug-because-it-may-be-superpotent/2014-08-26?utm_campaign=AddThis&utm_medium=AddThis&utm_source=twitter#.U_zTfaCk2Nk.twitter

20:04:08 assbot: Teva recalls Parkinson's disease drug because it may be 'superpotent' - FiercePharma Manufacturing

20:05:17 ThickAsThieves: does it cause superdepression leading to actors killing themselves?

20:06:33 BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: This drug works the opposite direction, gets converted to Dopamine in vivo

20:07:02 BingoBoingo: Not effects Dopamine, is a precursor for dopamine

20:08:29 danielpbarron: 04:00 <+ben_vulpes> <danielpbarron> i'm getting use out of it << what are ya doing with cp? << this: http://danielpbarron.com/MEAT/

20:08:30 assbot: MEAT

20:10:02 BingoBoingo: %t

20:10:04 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 175 Ask: 221 Last Price: 175 24h-Vol: 2k High: 175 Low: 175 VWAP: 174

20:10:55 punkman: re: solar flares etc http://spectrum.ieee.org/aerospace/military/electromagnetic-warfare-is-here

20:10:56 assbot: Electromagnetic Warfare Is Here - IEEE Spectrum

20:10:58 BlueMeanie4: Daniel- thanks for the help friend

20:11:05 danielpbarron: BlueMeanie4, you're welcome

20:21:04 danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/prestonjbyrne/status/504362441082683393 Sweet salvation! Might pop on a bit later tonight. << Preston Byrne might join later :D

20:21:05 assbot: Your own Fort Knox. http://t.co/KWtYswD7e0

20:22:40 ThickAsThieves: it sure is hard to book a US flight that isnt somehow connected to US Airways sometimes...

20:23:16 BlueMeanie4: as soon as I see the word 'webinar' im turned off

20:23:43 ThickAsThieves: it's frustrating to have to pick them

20:24:46 BingoBoingo: BlueMeanie4: It's like any other thing. Most of them are absolute shit, but occasionally you get one by an actual expert on an actual subject. There was actually a nice OpenBSD one done by Micheal W. Lucas for O'Reilly

20:29:42 BlueMeanie4: they use the term 'webinar' to make you think its' something more important than some lame video someone churned out

20:44:29 dignork: If you meantion Preston, i guess you read this: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/

20:44:30 assbot: BitShares: Don’t walk away. Run | Preston Byrne

20:44:40 dignork: *mention

20:52:07 thestringpuller: CONVOY

20:55:03 assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

20:55:21 BingoBoingo: !up BlueMeanie4

20:55:25 BlueMeanie4: dignork Daniel and I were reading that this morning

20:55:29 BlueMeanie4: danke

21:00:37 danielpbarron: wow, now warriorforum won't let me link to other people's sites in my signature

21:02:11 danielpbarron: now i gotta go and rewrite my "home-page"

21:21:14 kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/3B/2E/1Mn4hYnA/for-those-who-manage-bit.png

21:23:06 BingoBoingo: Beautiful kakobrekla, keep us updated if there is a further reply

21:24:14 jurov: mircea says crapre diem?

21:24:26 kakobrekla: made up on spot.

21:24:50 jurov: wd

21:24:53 BingoBoingo: ;;gettrust DEVOPS

21:24:53 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user BingoBoingo to user DEVOPS: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BingoBoingo&dest=DEVOPS | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=DEVOPS | Rated since: never

21:27:14 thestringpuller: !s bithub

21:27:15 assbot: 402 results for 'bithub' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=bithub

21:27:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 719 @ 0.00089996 = 0.6471 BTC [-] {2}

21:27:28 mod6: lol kakobrekla

21:37:59 assbot: BlueMeanie4 +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

21:38:35 kakobrekla: !up BlueMeanie4

21:38:48 BlueMeanie4: so where are the contracts describeD

21:41:07 jurov: what contracts?

21:42:05 BlueMeanie4: cant i make options and futures contracts on here?

21:44:08 danielpbarron: ya, just type it up and clearsign it with your PGP key; get the other guy to sign that

21:44:42 BlueMeanie4: i see

21:44:43 dignork: BlueMeanie4: if you want existing future contract see here: http://mpex.co/?mpsic=X.EUR

21:44:43 assbot: X.EUR last 625@0.00233000

21:45:26 BlueMeanie4: ok so who thinks BTC is going up?

21:45:34 danielpbarron: I do!

21:45:50 BingoBoingo: Eventually

21:47:02 BlueMeanie4: so what kind of contract would you do then?

21:48:01 danielpbarron: i'd be interested in some sort of deal where I buy BTC at today's price next year

21:48:59 BlueMeanie4: thats a call option

21:49:33 BlueMeanie4: do you do stock trading?

21:49:50 danielpbarron: a little

21:50:22 BlueMeanie4: ok for a test

21:50:36 BlueMeanie4: the issue is you need to price the option

21:50:40 BlueMeanie4: its a not so simple equation

21:51:05 xmj: you know BlueMeanie4

21:51:08 xmj: it's not an option

21:51:16 xmj: We cal that Future.

21:51:21 xmj: or, Forward, when done OTC.

21:51:42 BlueMeanie4: a future is similar, but it delivers the actual asset and the price is paid down in full

21:52:04 BlueMeanie4: so an option is the ABILITY not the OBLIGATION to buy

21:52:10 BlueMeanie4: a FUTURE is pre-paying for an asset

21:52:30 mircea_popescu: o hai.

21:52:36 BlueMeanie4: so i would do a small BTC future just for kicks

21:53:58 xmj: BlueMeanie4: which is what I understood danielpbarron meant.

21:54:09 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal: There once was a she named Priscilla << but it'

21:54:13 mircea_popescu: s not a woman. it's a chinchilla

21:54:17 BlueMeanie4: 'buy BTC at a preset price in the future' is an option

21:54:23 xmj: nop

21:54:36 xmj: it doesn't specify that you have the right not to buy said amount of BTC.

21:55:26 mircea_popescu: antonosika aite, let's see here.

21:58:40 BlueMeanie4: you should try to conform to common terminology- makes it easier for people to get invovled

21:59:00 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it doesn't help that he doesn;'t really know the common terminology.

22:00:08 BlueMeanie4: a good book. http://www.amazon.com/International-Financial-Markets-J-Orlin-Grabbe/dp/0444015981

22:00:09 assbot: The International Financial Markets: 9780444015983: Economics Books @ Amazon.com

22:00:14 BlueMeanie4: the author is right up your guys alley

22:00:24 mircea_popescu: what alley is that ?

22:00:38 BlueMeanie4: the one in the backside of the NYSE where hookers hang out?

22:01:02 BlueMeanie4: have you ever read J. Orlin Grabbe?

22:04:02 BlueMeanie4: Options and Futures are pretty simple

22:04:18 BlueMeanie4: not hard to learn, but the complex structured instruments are not that easy to figure out

22:06:00 mircea_popescu: antonosika here you go : http://pastebin.com/NbPrZS9A

22:06:00 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Future Delivery Contract Fo - Pastebin.com

22:06:11 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 yes, actually.

22:06:54 BlueMeanie4: he's pretty *intense*

22:07:36 mircea_popescu: he was with the laissez faire troop neh ?

22:07:38 mircea_popescu: died in cr ?

22:09:14 mircea_popescu: !up BlueMeanie4

22:09:23 mircea_popescu: listen, you got to get in the wot if you keep coming by.

22:09:30 BlueMeanie4: im in the wot

22:09:36 BlueMeanie4: just did it

22:09:42 mircea_popescu: ;;ident BlueMeanie4

22:09:42 gribble: Nick 'BlueMeanie4', with hostmask 'BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net', is identified as user 'BlueMeanie4', with GPG key id DCB374BF51587535, key fingerprint 1FD273800859479EAE7577ADDCB374BF51587535, and bitcoin address None

22:10:07 mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Marx sez : never trust a capitalist.

22:10:08 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user BlueMeanie4 has been recorded.

22:10:17 antonosika: mircea_popescu: Thanks for writing the contract, my take is that you see no way of making it possible for me to avoid waiting till september 2015 for the eth and avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade?

22:10:18 BlueMeanie4: thanks to Daniel btw

22:10:32 BlueMeanie4: so who adjudicates the contracts?

22:10:42 mircea_popescu: antonosika "avoid the risk of a delay of ethereum trade" << what;s this mean ?

22:10:51 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 you ever read up on the fabulous adventure of teh rota ?

22:11:02 BlueMeanie4: dont believe i have

22:11:17 BlueMeanie4: but did read a bit on JOGs death in CR

22:11:20 mircea_popescu: it's lulzy. http://fraudsters.com/category/rota/ << read those, ask me again.

22:11:21 assbot: Rota pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:11:30 mircea_popescu: <<< lived in cr until 2007ish

22:11:44 antonosika: mircea_popescu: I deem that ethereum will trade in 100 btc in one year, but in the chance that it does not I have an infinite loss of capital (which is a lot since I dont have much).

22:12:10 mircea_popescu: antonosika kinda the purpose of these contracts.

22:12:14 mircea_popescu: !up rybro

22:12:25 antonosika: well purpose is that you buy eth cheaply in one year though...

22:12:43 mircea_popescu: the purpose is to gain exposure to eth. you can't have the exposure without the exposure.

22:12:49 antonosika: how about you donate the 3 btc to something nice if contract fails ?

22:12:57 antonosika: Both of us win...

22:13:14 mircea_popescu: i donate to whatever the hell i feel like with or without that contract lol

22:13:28 mircea_popescu: recall, im the openbsd guy.

22:14:05 rybro: tell me eth is ethanol and not ethereum

22:14:53 assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3Z280ZV.txt )

22:14:53 TomServo: !b 7

22:14:54 mircea_popescu: no, it's ethereum

22:16:00 rybro: yeah i knew it :P

22:16:37 antonosika: Ehum I want to make deals with nice people.

22:16:40 rybro: seems like they do cool stuff by why so shady

22:17:00 mircea_popescu: because they only claim to do cool stuff. anyone can claim to do cool stuff.

22:17:22 antonosika: I deposit 3 btc to you. Isn't it fair that we decide something nice that happens with it if there is a large delay of ETH currency?

22:17:23 mircea_popescu: antonosika that approach to business will ensure you'll squander whatever little capital you have.

22:17:31 mircea_popescu: best idea is to work with smart people.

22:18:26 antonosika: Smart people have good values, so If you have a good suggestion of what to donate my btc to I would regard you as smarter

22:18:26 mircea_popescu: "nice" people are rarely worth the price of a decent burial, clothes included, and i very much doubt they ever should be.

22:18:36 mircea_popescu: o you would, would you.

22:20:03 antonosika: I'm really interested, what is your philosophy on life?

22:20:38 BlueMeanie4: Mircea, totally agree

22:20:51 rybro: total logical fallacy man, unless you define what 'good' people are for all parties involved there are definitely going to be differences in opinion on what a 'good' person is and what a good action is on their part

22:21:00 mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/fb3v4nFL << kakobrekla i see yours and i raise you wtf is this shit.

22:21:01 assbot: Return-path: <dominik.zynis@gmail.com> Envelope-to: office@ Delivery-date: Tue - Pastebin.com

22:21:03 rybro: everyone is too brainwashed to have principles anyway

22:21:05 BlueMeanie4: well as we say in NY


22:21:13 mircea_popescu: rybro he's talking nice not good.

22:21:37 mircea_popescu: antonosika my philosophy in life is that all ills arise from people like you having any money and any voice, basically.

22:21:58 mircea_popescu: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.

22:22:34 rybro: wouldn't nice be just as subjective as good ?

22:22:50 mircea_popescu: rybro nah, it's worse.

22:23:04 mircea_popescu: good is a matter of reason at least to some degree. nice is pure sensata crapolade.

22:23:24 BlueMeanie4: what's more, my praxis in life is taking away the capital and the franchise of you lot.< we also have another phrase , getting 'Gypped'

22:23:48 mircea_popescu: a point established by considering that one has to reason to discover the good, whereas one just "feels" the nice. which approach is exactly why nice rather than good, why all that intellectual effort

22:23:52 rybro: lol

22:24:01 rybro: all i can think of is susan korman and that pink ribbon breast cancer thing

22:24:02 antonosika: mircea_popescu: My approach is definitely not "feels good" nice

22:24:13 mircea_popescu: antonosika well then you get a free pass.

22:24:38 antonosika: mircea_popescu: But, do you have a definition of deeds that are the opposite of ill?

22:24:40 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well it's not necessarily defined, but to me gypped is the inverse process : when some lout appropriates capital he shouldn't have.

22:25:05 mircea_popescu: antonosika lessee, maybe this is relevant to your interests http://fraudsters.com/2013/some-basic-discussion-of-charity/

22:25:06 assbot: Some basic discussion of charity pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

22:25:52 BlueMeanie4: 'shouldnt have' according to whom?

22:26:00 BlueMeanie4: my guess is the one who lost the capital

22:26:08 mircea_popescu: well that's where it gets iffy.

22:26:47 BlueMeanie4: thats where it gets gyppy :)

22:26:51 mircea_popescu: lol

22:27:26 antonosika: I would not donate to charity. But anyhow, if you deem some things as ill (such as charity) some people do things that are not ill (like you for example?) what would such deeds be?

22:27:59 mircea_popescu: "Media coverage of new technologies is always governed by an inexorable cycle: First comes the hyping, then comes the trashing. Of late, the Net has so accelerated this cycle that the trashing kicks in well before the hype has stopped ? sometimes creating a conflict of views that looks suspiciously like genuine debate."

22:28:15 mircea_popescu: http://www.salon.com/1997/03/06/straight_59/ << dude check out salon in 1997, back before it was hiring college dropouts for a hamburger.

22:28:16 assbot: Let's Get This Straight: March 1997 archives - Salon.com

22:29:16 mircea_popescu: antonosika you generally can't expect a summary of such things be presented to you on demand. there's about 2 years worth of logs here and >5 of fraudsters articles, you'll have to go through all that to find your own answer.

22:30:05 mircea_popescu: As companies like Pointcast, Marimba?s Castanet, Backweb, Intermind and others flock to seize ?push? market-share, they have been feted by the business press, welcomed by media companies who hope ?push? will help them make money, even lauded by Wired magazine as ?the radical future of media beyond the Web.? <<< all winners :D

22:31:49 mircea_popescu: In August 1998, PointCast found such a partner. In order to compete with @Home, a consortium of telephone companies and Microsoft put together a project designed to promote use of DSL in preference to cable modems. <<< has there EVER been a technology battle where ms fell on the right side ?

22:33:30 antonosika: Well you said that it would be better if I had no money or voice since I will never do anything good. It feels like that gives a rather strict definition of good.

22:34:01 antonosika: If I read logs or articles I don't know what things have any "value" and what are just writings.

22:34:17 mircea_popescu: well this problem is chiefly reflective of you not having done a lot of it yet.

22:34:21 antonosika: At least your philosphy doesnt sound like nihilism

22:34:29 mircea_popescu: you can't start by doing good. you start by doing work, a lot of it, then you see.

22:34:45 mircea_popescu: !up Brigadie-

22:34:48 antonosika: Ehum, any guidelines?

22:34:51 mircea_popescu: nope.

22:35:09 antonosika: Ok...

22:35:35 antonosika: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu

22:35:35 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user antonosika to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=antonosika&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011

22:36:28 mircea_popescu: http://supremelaw.org/sls/email/box081/msg08181.htm

22:36:28 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know, a complete collection of grabbe would probably be useful at this point. he doesn't seem to have any web exposure.

22:36:29 mircea_popescu: you still got those usenet archives ?

22:39:59 mircea_popescu: in other news, http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/08/11/maily-serenablair-31808/images/full/12.jpg

22:44:30 antonosika: mircea_popescu: Anyways, one thought on doing more good is to make it easier for those naive souls (as myself) who want to understand to learn.

22:44:33 mircea_popescu: !up BitMarmot

22:44:39 BitMarmot: Ayo

22:44:39 mircea_popescu: !up rdekley

22:44:48 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot are you really a marmot ?

22:44:54 antonosika: But at least I can do business with you.

22:44:57 fluffypony: <- really a pony

22:45:00 mircea_popescu: antonosika nothing easy's worth doing.

22:45:03 BitMarmot: Ask danielpbarron

22:45:08 mircea_popescu: fluffypony that we know :D

22:45:11 antonosika: How do I sign the contract?

22:45:18 BitMarmot: I am also a USG_Press_Machine from time to time

22:45:21 fluffypony: antonosika: just send me your private key

22:45:24 fluffypony: and I'll sort it out

22:45:24 mircea_popescu: antonosika you don't have to sign it, if you pay it stands.

22:45:28 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust BitMarmot

22:45:46 BitMarmot: Will do it this weekend

22:45:52 BitMarmot: Just swinging by to say hello

22:45:56 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot usg press machine was a better nick. this bitblabla stuff is a cancer.

22:46:03 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

22:46:16 thestringpuller: why is gribble being dumb

22:46:21 fluffypony: .nick BitPony ?

22:46:32 BitMarmot: agreed, but I figured the marmot peg was the best way to illustrate the sheer stupidity of what was going on with BTSX

22:46:36 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it's not being dumb, it's being absent

22:46:49 mircea_popescu: btsx ?

22:46:49 BitMarmot: Of everything I've written I figured MP probably approved of my most recent work the most

22:46:53 BitMarmot: BitShares X

22:46:58 mircea_popescu: o that. heh.

22:47:01 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot link ?

22:47:05 BitMarmot: two ticks

22:47:28 BitMarmot: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/17/dont-walk-away-run/

22:47:28 assbot: BitShares: Don’t walk away. Run | Preston Byrne

22:47:28 antonosika: mircea_popescu: Is there a way for me to show that I paid?

22:47:31 mircea_popescu: "wait a tick, wait a tick... i will not ruin this sketch for a pound"

22:47:37 BitMarmot: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/08/24/what-goes-up/

22:47:38 assbot: BitSharesX: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence | Preston Byrne

22:47:54 mircea_popescu: antonosika well if a payment as specified makes it to the address specified before time specified, you have.

22:50:56 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot myeah. the many advantages for the general public of the sec demuring instead of taking its fucking place in the world.

22:50:58 mircea_popescu: a well.

22:51:16 mircea_popescu: but yes, i will definitely push for prosecution of the current set of sec comissioners for having failed to take the hand i extended to them last year.

22:51:40 BitMarmot: I mean, I don't exactly look forward to the day seeing as I'm meant to be hanged

22:51:47 BitMarmot: But apparently I am not beyond saving

22:52:02 mircea_popescu: what's so bad about hanging ?

22:52:10 mircea_popescu: you at least get to come.

22:52:24 mircea_popescu: yet another way nature disadvantages women.

22:52:28 BitMarmot: ben_vulpes:danielpbarron: tell preston he's not a lost cause

22:52:29 mircea_popescu: !up BlueMeanie4

22:52:35 antonosika: ;;ident mircea_popescu

22:52:44 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot BlueMeanie4

22:52:44 BlueMeanie4: I think the SEC is aware of what Vitalik and Bitshares are doing, but theyre biding their time

22:52:54 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is not identified.

22:53:04 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user BlueMeanie4: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=BlueMeanie4 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BlueMeanie4 | Rated since: Tue Aug 26 15:52:35 2014

22:53:18 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 if you id with gribble and pm assbot !up you can just up yourself.

22:53:32 BlueMeanie4: wow this system is confusing as hell

22:54:15 BlueMeanie4: its pretty clear that Ethereum and Bitshares were fundraisers

22:54:30 BlueMeanie4: and i really appreciate your points in that article BitMarmot

22:55:04 BitMarmot: Thanks BlueMeanie4 - I do this for a living so looked at BitShares for 20 minutes and was like, "does not compute"

22:55:08 mircea_popescu: it's a fucking outrage is what it is. basically vitalik saw the neobee fuckwit buy a ferrari or whatever it was, went out of his mind and well... "if x can steal why shouldn't i"

22:55:14 mircea_popescu: which is what's wrong with "biding their time" idiocies.

22:55:23 BlueMeanie4: I just know the people involved and I didnt even bother running the numbers, I already know the answer

22:55:26 BitMarmot: Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often

22:55:32 antonosika: why doesn't mircea_popescu get identified by ;;ident ?

22:55:42 antonosika: ;;ident antonosika

22:55:43 mircea_popescu: antonosika gribble blinked. a sec

22:55:49 gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.

22:55:59 antonosika: ;;ident nanotubes

22:56:06 gribble: Error: I am not seeing this user on IRC. If you want information about a registered gpg user, try the 'gpg info' command instead.

22:56:08 BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- those guys are notorious for faking things like sales numbers and web stats

22:56:32 mircea_popescu: ;;ident

22:56:35 gribble: Nick 'mircea_popescu', with hostmask 'mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu', is identified as user 'mircea_popescu', with GPG key id 8A736F0E2FB7B452, key fingerprint 6160E1CAC8A3C52966FD76998A736F0E2FB7B452, and bitcoin address None

22:56:38 antonosika: mircea_popescu: will you confirm that the contract holds when you get the payment?

22:56:46 antonosika: ;;ident

22:56:48 mircea_popescu: sure.

22:56:49 gribble: Nick 'antonosika', with hostmask 'antonosika!uid31762@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vzvixbctpbfdyksw', is not identified.

22:56:55 antonosika: How is that done?

22:56:58 BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- I tweeted you :)

22:57:00 mircea_popescu: how is what done

22:57:17 antonosika: Public confirmation of that a contract holds

22:57:24 BitMarmot: BlueMeanie4 thanks! I saw.

22:57:25 mircea_popescu: x.x

22:57:29 mircea_popescu: how would you like it to be done ?

22:57:53 antonosika: you sign a message with your gpg?

22:57:57 BlueMeanie4: I even recall the early bitshares stuff on btt, it was pure idiocy

22:58:18 mircea_popescu: i already did dood. in between that pastebin and a blockchain read you have incontrovertible proof.

22:58:26 BlueMeanie4: although I cant confirm that the current concept bears any resemblance to those early ideas

22:58:39 antonosika: Why cant u just argue that that is another transaction?

22:58:49 mircea_popescu: because that's what the contract says.

22:59:21 BingoBoingo: BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea

23:00:01 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-08-2014#809835

23:00:02 assbot: Logged on 26-08-2014 10:50:07; mircea_popescu: There once was a she named Priscilla whose vagina was flavored vanilla. The taste was so fine man and beast stood in line of a lick at this fabled chinchilla.

23:00:04 BitMarmot: I actually really like marmots

23:00:05 mircea_popescu: could it be chinchillas instead ?

23:01:10 BlueMeanie4: we have something like a marmot in the rocky mountains. its similar to a mountain-hamster

23:01:25 BitMarmot: A friend of mine tells me the tale of a marmot called Grey Beard

23:01:30 BitMarmot: who lived in the rockies

23:01:38 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot "I don?t like or approve of token pre-sales and I never will." << whatr's this mean ?

23:01:50 BitMarmot: He would cast a curse on any campers at the camp who harassed local wildlife

23:02:00 BitMarmot: Mircea_Popescu exactly what it says

23:02:04 mircea_popescu: also get out of this habit of using the same title on different dates for different articles. it's breadspread insanity.

23:02:13 BitMarmot: I'll join WoT this weekend

23:02:18 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot it doesn't say so much cause "token pre-sales" isn't reallyt a term of art.

23:02:23 BlueMeanie4: that sounds like the scene from Monty Python holy Grail

23:02:36 BitMarmot: Satoshi didn't need a presale

23:02:42 BitMarmot: all this stuff is iterative

23:02:50 BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- allocate at least an hour to get through the WOT process

23:02:52 mircea_popescu: you mean recursive ?

23:02:57 mircea_popescu: as in, soon they'll do presales for the presale ?

23:02:58 BitMarmot: nope, iterative

23:03:05 BitMarmot: i.e. it's not really an improvement

23:03:16 mircea_popescu: im not even sure what it's supposed to be.

23:03:20 BitMarmot: If someone came up with a chain which was awesome

23:03:21 antonosika: What does it mean that assignments are integral?

23:03:22 mircea_popescu: i mean other than tardstalk finance.

23:03:35 BitMarmot: they wouldn't need to presell because they'd make their money mining the crap out of it

23:03:40 mircea_popescu: antonosika that you can't give sue 1.5 btc and mary 1.5 btc of your load. gotta pick a girl blow the whole load on her.

23:03:51 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot you mean like atc ?

23:04:02 BitMarmot: fact is, most alt chains aren't that big a deal/that different from BTC to merit existence

23:04:04 BitMarmot: ATC?

23:04:08 mircea_popescu: %p

23:04:10 atcbot: No data returned from CoinMiner.net

23:04:11 atcbot: [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1636.67 GH/s [iSpace Pool Hashrate]: 0 TH/s

23:04:13 mircea_popescu: ^

23:04:31 mircea_popescu: therealaltcoin, ThickAsThieves' scamcoin.

23:04:45 BitMarmot: Good work ThickAsThieves.

23:05:10 mircea_popescu: ok, "I look at BitSharesX and I see a group of talented" << what do you mean by talented then.

23:05:21 BitMarmot: Larimer's a smart kid

23:05:28 BitMarmot: on the programmer side

23:05:33 BlueMeanie4: i beg to differe

23:05:37 mircea_popescu: and i'd know this how ?

23:05:50 BlueMeanie4: i was reading larimers babbling on btt - his ideas are idiotic

23:05:58 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well he did say codewise.

23:06:12 antonosika: mircea_popescu: thanks for making it so clear.

23:06:13 *: antonosika http://pastebin.com/NbPrZS9A

23:06:13 assbot: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Future Delivery Contract Fo - Pastebin.com

23:06:22 BitMarmot: Let me put it this way - I wanted to play the ball rather than the programmer

23:06:22 mircea_popescu: gotta cut amateurs slack re finance, somehow everyone got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin.

23:06:26 BlueMeanie4: he wanted to peg the value of assets to some 'market value' - it was utter nonsense

23:06:27 antonosika: Same paste

23:06:34 antonosika: just needed to paste it

23:06:52 BlueMeanie4: got the idea they know it because... well bitcoin. < a lot of that goes on for sure

23:07:28 mircea_popescu: but generally, you can distinguish they don't know wtf they're talking about on terminology, and just discard that and see if they're basically honest or not. at least it's my approach.

23:07:28 BlueMeanie4: BitMarmot- of course he doesnt want to program it- i makes ZERO sense!

23:07:52 BlueMeanie4: that was basically my thought when I bothered to read his nonsense writings

23:07:56 BitMarmot: I just don't like going after people personally - I'd rather discuss the issues

23:08:01 BlueMeanie4: 'if this guy is going to code this then great for him'

23:08:07 BlueMeanie4: of course he defers that small job to someone else

23:08:10 BitMarmot: Even if the writings are nonsense, go after the writings, not the person who wrote them

23:08:12 BlueMeanie4: he's exactly like Chris Odom

23:08:22 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot that's fine, but you know if you call someone something, whether it's "talented" or "whore" or anything, i may well ask you well, how did you find this and how could i verify for myself.

23:08:24 mircea_popescu: only natural.

23:08:42 BitMarmot: mircea_popescu all of god's creatures are special

23:08:52 BitMarmot: unique snowflakes

23:08:58 mircea_popescu: oh get out. unless they taste like vanilla they go right into the stu.

23:09:02 mircea_popescu: otherwise, they go into the cake.

23:09:03 BitMarmot: hahahahahaahahahaha

23:09:09 BitMarmot: I thought you might like that.

23:09:24 BlueMeanie4: to a degree- if someone is repeatedly trying to draw attention to themselves by whoring around every buzzword and they do it repeatedly then pull a PRESALE- thats when you start questioning someone's motives

23:09:50 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKY5zHILK00 << this could be the "talented bitcoiner" theme song.

23:09:50 assbot: Animaniacs - The Monkey Song - YouTube

23:09:51 BitMarmot: I go on what I can prove. If I can't prove it, I figure no harm in being polite

23:10:27 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot if politeness has degraded to the point you gotta call someone talented just to remain polite i dun want any part of it.

23:10:33 BlueMeanie4: yes but eventually the emporer wears no clothe

23:10:36 antonosika: Im about to agree to a contract that stands if I deposit 3 btc to mircea_popescu (with the blockchain as security). Can someone tell me that this is a smart procedure?

23:10:46 BlueMeanie4: Mircea- BINGO

23:11:03 antonosika: the btc could come from someone else depositing at the same time.

23:11:08 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot but anyway, nm that part.

23:11:13 BitMarmot: mircea_popescu differences in approach, as you know we have. nm indeed

23:11:27 mircea_popescu: antonosika it'd still credit you. so they'd be suckers for doing it, but their problem.

23:11:42 BlueMeanie4: eventually people value candor above all else

23:11:46 BlueMeanie4: who has time to waste on this shit?

23:11:59 BlueMeanie4: let alone money

23:12:04 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 not all people, no. if people valued candor there'd be a blowout sale on penis aids.

23:12:19 mircea_popescu: there's lines of work where honesty is the worst policy.

23:12:23 mircea_popescu: just... finance ain't one of them.

23:12:32 antonosika: But this isn't specified in the contract. Only "the long holder shall deposit"

23:12:40 BlueMeanie4: ya shrewdness goes a long way

23:13:03 mircea_popescu: antonosika you gotta understand how the legal mind works. you have a beneficial presumption therein embedded.

23:13:13 BitMarmot: BlueMeanie4 I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt on character, but go ruthless on the facts

23:13:19 BitMarmot: mircea_popescu exactly

23:13:32 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot what are you trying to do anyway.

23:13:43 BitMarmot: brb. Just having fun, I enjoy writing.

23:13:48 BlueMeanie4: ya I really appreciated that article, but when you watch someone pull this sort of stuff time and time again- it's hard not to get personal

23:13:48 mircea_popescu: works.

23:14:05 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 tell mpoe-pr that :D

23:14:13 BlueMeanie4: who?

23:14:18 antonosika: mircea_popescu: can someone else vouch for this ?

23:14:24 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 aww.

23:14:37 antonosika: legal is not my language

23:14:40 mircea_popescu: well for a coupla years there was this hot chick on the forum beating the shit out of the innumerable, meanwhile forgotten scammers.

23:14:52 BlueMeanie4: see

23:15:00 mircea_popescu: they all got pissy because "onoes, whai so personal"

23:15:03 BlueMeanie4: the thing i always look for- they always have an alternative career

23:15:04 antonosika: ill deposit if you reformulate the contract

23:15:15 BlueMeanie4: theyre a 'musician' or a 'pick up artist' or 'author' or some crap

23:15:21 mircea_popescu: just one of the many ways mpex wrote teh history of bitcoin that nobody knows about because well... history is hard work.

23:15:47 BlueMeanie4: or theyre entirely anonymous

23:15:51 BlueMeanie4: usually a combination of the two

23:16:11 mircea_popescu: well most "musicians" are anonymous.

23:16:28 mircea_popescu: that's funny, i remember the days "anonymous" used to be an insult.

23:16:36 BlueMeanie4: do you know how many of these 'celebrated' bitcoin experts have some lame background like this?

23:16:51 mircea_popescu: yes. i keep files.

23:17:12 BlueMeanie4: this doesnt appear to bother the 18 year olds who just bought 2 grand worth of magic beans

23:17:54 mircea_popescu: ;;google story pointless witless

23:17:55 gribble: The story of Pointless and Witless pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea ...: http://fraudsters.com/2013/the-story-of-pointless-and-witless/; Smash reviews The Hobbit: Desolation of Smaug (very minor spoilers ...: http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/326.837882-Smash-reviews-The-Hobbit-Desolation-of-Smaug-very-minor-spoilers; BIPS, Payment Service Provider (PSP) for Merchants - (1 more message)

23:18:26 BlueMeanie4: cant view it

23:18:30 mircea_popescu: what changed in the past year ? nothing!

23:19:07 antonosika: mircea_popescu: starting a contract by only seeing a random transaction in the blockchain is dodgy as hell

23:19:17 mircea_popescu: according to whom ?!

23:19:34 antonosika: The formulation of the contract

23:19:34 mircea_popescu: and it's not random, it's specified.

23:19:46 antonosika: random as in not specified where it is from

23:19:59 antonosika: the amount is specified

23:20:16 antonosika: and "the Long Party"

23:20:26 mircea_popescu: yes. this is how bitcoin works.

23:20:27 antonosika: easy to argue that it is not from the long party

23:20:38 mircea_popescu: yes, but also toothless. doesn't matter where it's from.

23:21:17 antonosika: So why not just write " 3.00001 BTC shall be deposited no later than August 31st to ..."

23:21:30 antonosika: That's specified

23:21:37 antonosika: "Long Party" is not

23:21:50 antonosika: provable

23:22:04 *: mircea_popescu shrugs.

23:23:13 BlueMeanie4: thats what i was saying- who adjudicates?

23:23:15 antonosika: Change it.

23:23:22 BingoBoingo: Long Party: YOu are perfectly free to save your own copy of MP's signed contract and sign it your self.

23:24:06 antonosika: BingoBoingo: the problem is that it is possible to argue that the deposit was not from the long party

23:24:07 BitMarmot: back

23:24:12 BitMarmot: you all survive without me?

23:24:18 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 well that's why i gave you that rota reference. nobody o.O after the attempt at a public court thing failed miserably.

23:24:19 antonosika: BingoBoingo: who would be correct in such an argument?

23:24:51 BingoBoingo: antonosika: Well if it came from another party that would mean someone else just subsidized the Long Party's purchase

23:25:14 mircea_popescu: BitMarmot here's the problem. your effort at being polite has resulted in 2+6k words, in which the idiot in question is arguing he's right.

23:25:15 antonosika: Thanks bingo, i just wanted this legal language verified by someone else to seem less dogy

23:25:22 mircea_popescu: you may love to write, but no one loves to read.

23:25:30 mircea_popescu: so what's the gain here ?

23:25:58 mircea_popescu: antonosika it's not dodgy, it's just how i write.

23:26:04 mircea_popescu: i went to the hemingway school of law.

23:26:11 BitMarmot: None immediately. It's a long game

23:26:50 mircea_popescu: heh. "your penis is too long to fit any woman, so how do you propose to reproduce ?" "not immediately, waiting for it to grow more."

23:27:30 BitMarmot: Something like that

23:27:32 mircea_popescu: (im not saying working is bad, it's not. the reason it's good however is that it allows such problems to be discussed)

23:28:18 BingoBoingo: BitMarmot: Any thoughts on http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/08/25/a-law-enforcement-encounter-if-you-ran-a-bitcoin-related-service-before-the-thing-hit-100-you-prolly-ought-to-be-somewhat-concerned-andor-prepared/

23:28:18 assbot: A Law Enforcement Encounter: If you ran a Bitcoin related service before the thing hit $100 you prolly ought to be somewhat concerned and/or prepared | Bingo Blog

23:28:30 antonosika: last thing, will you check the blockchain and confirm in this chat that you saw the 3.0001 BTC ?

23:28:30 mircea_popescu: fuck.

23:28:31 BitMarmot: Judging from the hits though my point got across without hitting the man

23:28:51 mircea_popescu: i didn't even pick the right phrase. should have used rickles' "he's making a loss on every sale but hopes to make it up on volume"

23:28:52 BitMarmot: so ultimately you get done what needs to get done without alienating anyone

23:28:56 mircea_popescu: a well, esprit d'escalier.

23:29:01 mircea_popescu: antonosika okay.

23:29:27 BitMarmot: Be of no doubt, I am overawed by your approach to polemic. But I suspect I probably wouldn't get away with it

23:29:34 BitMarmot: plus not my style

23:29:38 BitMarmot: takes all kinds

23:30:08 mircea_popescu: what, decentralized polemics ?

23:30:22 BitMarmot: No, just not giving a damn what other people think

23:30:30 antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll be happy with the outcome of this contract either way, nice to learn new things with you crazy fucks around here.

23:30:59 mircea_popescu: antonosika it's everyone's sentiment

23:31:07 BingoBoingo: antonosika: Sitting around here and having access to every one in the chan's input is an effect IQ boost

23:31:45 mircea_popescu: antonosika anyway, the last clause is there specifically to allow you to limit your risk as you can make me a settlement offer later on and who knows, i might take it.

23:32:32 mircea_popescu: (for that matter, it's good policy / common courtest to see if i don't want to overbid in case you're considering assignment)

23:32:41 mircea_popescu: kinda how the market was born, irl, centuries ago.

23:33:39 ThickAsThieves: <+BingoBoingo> BitMarmot> Website's been clocking 1,000 hits a day for the last three days - I should write about marmots more often << Not a bad idea //// Before you know it your website will be all "10 Wacky Interesting Things You Never Knew About Marmots"

23:33:39 antonosika: mircea_popescu: I'll keep my fingers crossed then.

23:34:30 BitMarmot: BuzzMarmot

23:34:40 BitMarmot: I really do f***ing love marmots

23:34:47 BitMarmot: best animals ever

23:34:49 mircea_popescu: why ?

23:35:12 BitMarmot: They're goofy, largely benign troublemaker

23:35:12 BitMarmot: s

23:35:19 mircea_popescu: ...

23:35:30 mircea_popescu: !up BlueMeanie4

23:35:35 BitMarmot: What, MP doesn't have a spirit animal?

23:35:40 mircea_popescu: uhm.

23:35:49 mircea_popescu: yes, but mine's a scorpion.

23:35:55 BitMarmot: Fitting

23:36:00 BlueMeanie4: Slime Mold

23:36:09 mircea_popescu: precise, fucking dangerous mind-your-own-business law enforcer type.

23:36:10 ThickAsThieves: <+mircea_popescu> therealaltcoin, ThickAsThieves' scamcoin. /// it's more of a scamcoin assimiliation phenomenon!

23:36:19 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves slime mold :D

23:36:29 BitMarmot: Spirit fungi bro

23:36:32 BitMarmot: wrong kingdom

23:36:35 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 if slime molds are animals ima make buenos aires my spirit animal.

23:36:50 BlueMeanie4: Slime Molds are actually fascinating

23:36:53 BlueMeanie4: but thats another story

23:36:54 mircea_popescu: it's not even genetically coherent for crying out loud.

23:37:04 mircea_popescu: yes but they're not animals. they're colonies of animals. like a town.

23:37:55 BlueMeanie4: well occasionally they go from being a colony to forming into a creature that gets up and moves

23:38:03 BlueMeanie4: not joking - thats why theyre so strange

23:38:11 mircea_popescu: what's this, animism biology ?

23:38:16 mircea_popescu: it does move but it's still not an animal.

23:38:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: still got those usenet archives ? << only ever had a hand-sewn, humble archive (a la 'yarchive.net' but not as good.)

23:39:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform how woud you go about recouping all this guy's usenet stuff ?

23:39:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but i doubt that google corp. has the only copy of 'dejanews' - ask around.

23:39:16 mircea_popescu: yes i am asking around :D

23:39:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if you're lucky, 'google groups' might have a good fraction of it

23:39:55 BlueMeanie4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkVhLJLG7ug

23:39:55 assbot: John Bonner's slime mold movies - YouTube

23:40:51 asciilifeform: re: electronic warfare article - the conflation between garden-variety signal jamming and 'emp' circuit zapping is inexcusable and a classic leper's bell of journalistic hacks

23:40:53 thestringpuller: ;;ident

23:40:53 gribble: Nick 'thestringpuller', with hostmask 'thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net', is not identified.

23:40:56 thestringpuller: damn

23:41:05 thestringpuller: time to export the private key to this machine

23:41:05 mircea_popescu: ahh people's assumptions are such a great boon to internet humor. so i go on this blog and butthurt people, everyone assumes that since i speak the language i also live there, it's rioutous.

23:42:53 mircea_popescu: ;;ident BlueMeanie4

23:42:54 gribble: Nick 'BlueMeanie4', with hostmask 'BlueMeanie4!~chatzilla@ip-64-134-220-97.public.wayport.net', is not identified.

23:43:07 mircea_popescu: BlueMeanie4 listen : ident with gribble, let's walk you through this self upping thing.

23:43:19 BlueMeanie4: this is even better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GY_uMH8Xpy0

23:43:19 assbot: Mould Time-lapse - The Great British Year: Episode 4 Preview - BBC One - YouTube

23:46:19 nubbins`: so my macbook drank a cup of coffee today

23:46:49 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when assigning a key to a bot, what is a good way to allow the bot to access it? is a passphrase even practical?

23:46:56 thestringpuller: or more giving a key to a bot...

23:47:01 mircea_popescu: gpg agent ?

23:47:16 mircea_popescu: but yeah, make it its own key.

23:47:23 thestringpuller: yea. that's what I've been looking into, do you think it's legit though?

23:48:14 thestringpuller: legit over the wire*

23:48:25 thestringpuller: like ssh key forwarding...etc...

23:48:51 mircea_popescu: wait, what ?

23:50:05 thestringpuller: i was overthinking it sorry for being dumb

23:50:25 thestringpuller: if bot and key are on same machine, bot daemon can just run gpg agent as a daemon...

23:50:35 mircea_popescu: http://girls.twistys.com/preview/dailyupdates/2014/08/13/aubreystar-31811/images/full/13.jpg << fun fact : girls that walk on high heels don't tend to support themselves on the heel.

23:50:47 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yeah something like that.

23:51:00 thestringpuller: thanks mircea_popescu

23:55:29 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell BitMarmot Judging from the hits though << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=11-08-2014#791057

23:55:29 assbot: Logged on 11-08-2014 23:15:37; mircea_popescu: godovo http://fraudsters.com/2014/awstats-and-stuff/ << 1mnish pages/month means even if they optimally use tor, it's still a tiny %.

23:55:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:59:49 BingoBoingo: !up dsherm