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00:01:00 *: adlai is "in the logs" describing the full episode, it's too long to fit in the margins of these. tl;dr: police visited, invited me along so nicely i couldn't refuse, but went home the next day. as danielpbarron pointed out, jail /= prison

00:01:22 ascii_butugychag: adlai: when ?

00:01:58 adlai: early january 2014. i don't remember the exact date and frankly don't feel like trying to recall it.

00:02:21 mircea_popescu: !search from:adlai prison

00:02:22 assbot: 3 results for 'from:adlai prison' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aadlai+prison

00:02:25 *: adlai celebrated "significantly more than two years" instead of astronomically precise anniversaries

00:02:39 mircea_popescu: nope, nothing 2014.

00:03:00 adlai: lol i don't think kako invited me here until months later

00:03:06 mircea_popescu: so then it's not in the logs.

00:03:21 adlai: thus the scare quotes, and distinction from ~these~

00:03:26 mircea_popescu: isn't lying fun.

00:03:41 adlai: cue "there is no logs but Logs, and you will have no other logs but these"

00:04:03 adlai: en teh archaea - fiat logos

00:04:31 mircea_popescu: mno. cue "it is the halmark of unemployed aluminum siding salesmen to try and pretend " are "".

00:04:42 ascii_butugychag: dafuq is a 'fiat log'

00:04:44 adlai: mircea_popescu: you know the "three things you can watch forever: fire burning, water flowing, people working"? needs an addition, "people bullshitting"

00:04:48 ascii_butugychag: the kind dropped into toilet ?

00:05:25 mircea_popescu: no idea what indiancandy school you went to, but no. nobody cares about specifically female retardation. it's not fascinating, nor sexy, nor even remotely interesting.

00:05:28 adlai: ascii_butugychag: mishmash of fiat (latin) and logos (greek)

00:05:29 mircea_popescu: learn a trade already.

00:06:01 ascii_butugychag: i thought adlai ~had~ a trade - tank mechanic

00:06:02 *: adlai trades time for time and sometimes btc trickle in. that is all, since this conversation doesn't seem to be helping anybody anymore

00:06:20 adlai: 'tank'

00:06:57 *: adlai is more of a mechanic than he'd like, something something for insects

00:07:08 adlai: !down

00:07:11 adlai: !down adlai

00:09:08 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386613 << ahahaha this should be in teh bash.

00:09:08 assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 23:32:25; ascii_butugychag: like any other business, it is what you make of it.

00:09:14 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell davout good job https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42tcqm/eli5_wouldnt_it_be_extremely_inefficient_to_copy/

00:09:16 assbot: ELI5: "Wouldn't it be extremely inefficient to copy every single coffee purchase on everyone's computer?" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1K9nUDx )

00:09:16 gribble: The operation succeeded.

00:10:54 mircea_popescu: ahaha this is epic.

00:11:25 mircea_popescu: are all the imbeciles answering actually davout's alt accounts ?

00:11:38 mircea_popescu: because this is just too fucking good lmao, like self-building comedy goldcube.

00:12:20 mircea_popescu: "oh, isn't it inefficient to buy everyone a cup"

00:13:32 BingoBoingo: comedy hypergoldcube

00:14:07 mircea_popescu: [?]solled [score hidden] 26 minutes ago

00:14:07 mircea_popescu: Wouldn't it be extremely inefficient to manufacture a paper cup for everyone's coffee? That would be millions of paper cups per day, only to be used once. Coffee will never work.

00:14:12 mircea_popescu: meanwhile disappeared, in my stale page.

00:14:44 mircea_popescu: that's the logic of the great internet nation of teh phillipines!

00:18:35 BingoBoingo: For serious. I should totally move there. Would be great for de-USing my brain all of this other stupidity.

00:19:17 ascii_butugychag: BingoBoingo: philippines is ~preview of near future usa~

00:19:27 mircea_popescu: nah, argentina is.

00:19:33 BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: Nah, it is like Australia alt USA lab

00:19:41 mircea_popescu: phillipines is preview of future of china in an alt-world where the us didn't go to shit.

00:19:56 ascii_butugychag: argentina isn't a squalid pisshole complete with free-range islamic nutters

00:20:16 BingoBoingo: ascii_butugychag: They are pretty much all on one island

00:20:23 BingoBoingo: It's Indonesia where they are spread about

00:20:30 mircea_popescu: depends on your perception.

00:20:39 mircea_popescu: people were happy historically in all sorts of environments.

00:21:05 BingoBoingo: Cambodia seemed interesting, but dunno how I feel about multidrug resistant P. Falciprum

00:21:22 ascii_butugychag: that's the thing. ^ pisshole status is quite objectice.

00:21:26 ascii_butugychag: *objective

00:21:30 mircea_popescu: orly ?

00:21:37 mircea_popescu: how come you fail to identify argentina then ?

00:22:03 ascii_butugychag: because it is a function of two inputs, the traveller and the destination.

00:22:10 mircea_popescu: so then how is it objective ?!

00:22:15 mircea_popescu: relativistic objectivity ?

00:22:22 ascii_butugychag: mathematics!111

00:22:26 mircea_popescu: lol.

00:22:57 *: ascii_butugychag is perpetrating this horror on the other side of desk, it is difficult to fully contain

00:23:11 polarbeard: neat, I'm using 'relativistic objectivity' in my next discussion for sure.

00:24:24 *: jurov 's bitcoind segfaults in sha256_block_data_order, after properly and completely wiping out stack... now trying gdb's record&replay for first time

00:24:40 ascii_butugychag: jurov: this from mod6's patch?!

00:25:06 jurov: no, from my own mempool patch

00:25:08 ascii_butugychag: ah

00:26:14 jurov: ascii_butugychag: how big slowdown is that?

00:26:18 jurov: !up ascii_butugychag

00:26:35 jurov: should i leave it overnight?

00:26:49 jurov: (original crashes after a minute)

00:27:57 ascii_butugychag: jurov: considerable. the thing probably won't keep time.

00:28:04 ascii_butugychag: but it doesn't hurt to try.

00:31:44 punkman: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386548 << more sipa than everyone else combined?

00:31:44 assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 21:13:29; jurov: in other news, http://s12.postimg.org/cqy6boot9/bitcoin_core_analysis.png

00:33:51 punkman: also surprised that Gavin didn't write more lines than Satoshi

00:41:45 BingoBoingo: Why would infestation coordinator need to write many lines himself?

00:49:37 mircea_popescu: he did some vocal "community organizing" work at first, but..

00:49:56 mircea_popescu: sipa dumped tons and tons of code, most of which is shit.

00:56:19 mircea_popescu: !s gauss notebook

00:56:20 assbot: 0 results for 'gauss notebook' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=gauss+notebook

00:56:40 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform do you happen to recall where the original thread was ?

00:56:43 mircea_popescu: in "the logs"

01:17:11 mircea_popescu: ah tis found ty.

01:38:37 *: asciilifeform home in record time - because usg was closed, no cars...

01:39:02 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-03-2014#548272 << here you go

01:39:02 assbot: Logged on 05-03-2014 23:12:13; asciilifeform: people who regularly have ideas usually have fat notebooks full of strange

01:39:10 asciilifeform: ah he found it, nm

01:43:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51357 @ 0.00055653 = 28.5817 BTC [-] {3}

01:44:47 punkman: https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2016/01/no-cost-license-plate-readers-are-turning-texas-police-mobile-debt-collectors-and

01:44:48 assbot: "No Cost" License Plate Readers Are Turning Texas Police into Mobile Debt Collectors and Data Miners | Electronic Frontier Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/203c7hd )

01:45:44 punkman: "The government agency in turn gives Vigilant access to information about all its outstanding court fees, which the company then turns into a hot list to feed into the free ALPR systems. As police cars patrol the city, they ping on license plates associated with the fees. The officer then pulls the driver over and offers them a devil’s bargain: get arrested, or pay the original fine with an

01:45:45 punkman: extra 25% processing fee tacked on, all of which goes to Vigilant."

01:47:22 polarbeard: sex between gov and corp is incest

02:16:05 mircea_popescu: ty asciilifeform

02:16:48 mircea_popescu: !up srijan

02:16:52 mircea_popescu: you can talk in here.

02:30:25 srijan: thanks mircea_popescu

02:30:25 srijan: hi everyone, I am a PhD student and I am looking for some help regarding the WoT network used here. Who should I be talking to ?

02:30:42 mircea_popescu: well, this is the best place, ask your question ?

02:31:15 srijan: is there any information about rating changes and rating deletions anywhere?

02:32:53 mircea_popescu: yes, it's in the log.

02:33:00 mircea_popescu: !s from:assbot rated

02:33:01 assbot: 154 results for 'from:assbot rated' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aassbot+rated

02:33:30 mircea_popescu: see also

02:33:44 mircea_popescu: !s from:assbot " Successfully updated the rating"

02:33:45 assbot: 123 results for 'from:assbot " Successfully updated the rating"' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Aassbot+%22+Successfully+updated+the+rating%22

02:34:35 srijan: okay

02:34:45 srijan: so the wot here: http://files.bitcoin-assets.com/wot/ is the current snapshot?

02:34:47 assbot: Index of /wot/ ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN8AOJ )

02:35:54 mircea_popescu: i would expect so. see also http://www.btcalpha.com/wot/

02:35:56 assbot: WoT Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/231wU3S )

02:36:17 srijan: is the btcalpha wot and btc-assets wot the same thing?

02:36:19 srijan: *are the

02:36:30 mircea_popescu: yes.

02:36:33 srijan: ah i see

02:37:04 srijan: what should I search for deletion of rating?

02:37:16 mircea_popescu: deletions per se are rare. generally people just replace.

02:37:33 srijan: alrighty

02:37:36 srijan: thanks!

02:38:31 mircea_popescu: but you can see

02:38:36 mircea_popescu: !s unrate

02:38:37 assbot: 134 results for 'unrate' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=unrate

02:39:36 srijan: great thanks!

02:41:05 felipelalli: mircea_popescu, do you still consider Bitcoin OTC WoT (not assbot WoT) important to the Bitcoin community or not more?

02:41:32 mircea_popescu: i don't really use it.

02:41:46 felipelalli: mircea_popescu, that's why I asked you. But why?

02:42:24 mircea_popescu: well, i like this one better, what can i say.

02:44:46 felipelalli: In this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=124441.0 is very inspiring to me, and you said at that time that Bitcoin OTC WoT was very important. You don't think so anymore or the assbot WoT fully meets? For a new Bitcoin business, the OTC WoT is still important?

02:44:48 assbot: So you think you're going to start a Bitcoin business, right? ... ( http://bit.ly/1MVvoFd )

02:47:17 mircea_popescu: felipelalli i do think it's very important, yes.

02:49:18 danielpbarron: the b-a WoT is the same as the one in that post; the fork happened afterwards

02:51:09 felipelalli: thank you mircea_popescu! danielpbarron, yes, I remember, I was here when this fork was made. I remember some conversation about gribble being too much offline and another bot was necessary. Am I wrong?

02:51:34 felipelalli: Not another bot, but another WoT, sorry.

02:51:57 danielpbarron: something like that; and I personally prefer assbot's authentication method to gribble's

02:52:19 mircea_popescu: what happened is - we used gribble wot. then gribbe was offline unexpectedly, and its maintainer wasn't talking. he was traveling at the time, as we later found out. nevertheless, for those few days the situation was indistinguishable from an attack and so we made a replacement.

02:52:26 danielpbarron: idk if it finally got fixed but it was the case that all someone needed to do was compromise your irc client and they could hijack your WoT identity

02:52:43 mircea_popescu: there was some talk about harmonizing the two, but i don't think the guy has any time to be doing maintenance, or any interest for that matter, so...

02:53:25 mircea_popescu: there are specific choices in how gribble handles security that were expedient for a long time, but no longer acceptable, so it'd have to be rewritten. until it isn't, i would think it more like a play sort of thing.

02:53:29 mircea_popescu: decent to learn on, i suppose.

02:54:10 felipelalli: like the session in gribble, I guess.

02:55:19 asciilifeform: achtung, panzers!

02:55:21 asciilifeform: http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000194.html

02:55:22 assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN9kDm )

02:55:30 asciilifeform: ^^^ ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al ^^^

02:56:45 mircea_popescu: iinteresting

02:57:36 asciilifeform: i forgot to put the skull and crossbones in there

02:58:02 asciilifeform: but please DO NOT USE in battlefield ! this or the next bit. it is for laboratory only !

02:58:53 felipelalli: asciilifeform, I didn't have too much time yet to explore this project and your work but I follow far with twinkle in my eyes. Congrats!

02:59:13 asciilifeform: felipelalli: this piece is just a lemma for the bigger thing

02:59:20 asciilifeform: it doesn't do anything at all on its own.

02:59:21 mircea_popescu: 1.41, reasonably recent too

02:59:29 felipelalli: asciilifeform, I am trying to learn the whole thing yet. But I had to pause it.

02:59:53 felipelalli: But I loved the idea to integrate WoT on it!

03:00:27 mircea_popescu: ok, this i gotta quote.

03:00:29 mircea_popescu: +/* ADJ is enough slack to align cells in a TYPE_BITS-bit boundary */

03:00:29 mircea_popescu: +#define ADJ 32

03:00:29 mircea_popescu: +#define TYPE_BITS 5

03:00:29 mircea_popescu: +#define T_MASKTYPE 31 /* 0000000000011111 */

03:00:29 mircea_popescu: +#define T_SYNTAX 4096 /* 0001000000000000 */

03:00:31 mircea_popescu: +#define T_IMMUTABLE 8192 /* 0010000000000000 */

03:00:32 mircea_popescu: +#define T_ATOM 16384 /* 0100000000000000 */ /* only for gc */

03:00:35 mircea_popescu: +#define CLRATOM 49151 /* 1011111111111111 */ /* only for gc */

03:00:36 mircea_popescu: +#define MARK 32768 /* 1000000000000000 */

03:00:39 mircea_popescu: +#define UNMARK 32767 /* 0111111111111111 */

03:00:50 mircea_popescu: what the fuck is with gc

03:02:56 asciilifeform: the comment on T_ATOM is a lie, it is used for the predicate is_atom and in a bunch of places

03:03:34 asciilifeform: clratom is a negated mask that is used to un-atom something, which only happens during the mark cycle of gc

03:03:35 mircea_popescu: i wonder what happened

03:04:01 asciilifeform: if you really want to know how this thing works, i recommend reading minischeme (the smaller item this was based on)

03:04:08 asciilifeform: i've carried a copy around with me for most of a decade.

03:04:11 asciilifeform: it is spiffy.

03:04:31 asciilifeform: (but unfortunately not usable for this experiment, lacks support for i/o 'ports' and, more importantly, arrays)

03:04:42 asciilifeform: japanese, circa '89

03:04:45 adlai: srijan: fwiw it is possible to update ratings in private message, and afaik the only person who can give you the full data on thata is kakobrekla

03:04:50 adlai: !up srijan

03:06:00 adlai: asciilifeform: so tabs vs spaces was not bad enough, and we also need lisp-1 vs lisp-2 in Bitcoin?

03:06:10 asciilifeform: afaik, tinyscheme is currently the smallest (in re: complexity) standards-compliant (mostly) schematron in the world

03:06:19 adlai: deedbot-: http://dpaste.com/3HE2DV5.txt

03:06:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PCsEDQ )

03:06:46 deedbot-: accepted: 1

03:07:53 mircea_popescu: ok, ok. i take it back.

03:08:00 srijan: thanks adlai for the info. kakobrekla, would you be able to help with that?

03:08:13 mircea_popescu: think for a second srijan.

03:08:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it cites knuth, note, if you wanna know how the gc goes.

03:09:33 mircea_popescu: algorithm E

03:09:41 adlai: mircea_popescu: honestly, i don't think further details beyond what i just deeded is relevant for this forum, or any other, except perhaps a court convened in my honor by the relevant mob.

03:09:44 mircea_popescu: i had no idea this stuff was even deployed anywhere.

03:09:51 mircea_popescu: adlai me either.

03:13:04 deedbot-: [fraudsters] The Tarantino Terminal State ; also known as Gauss' Queasiness in a different field. - http://fraudsters.com/2016/the-tarantino-terminal-state-also-known-as-gauss-queasiness-in-a-different-field/

03:27:17 adlai: it's worth noting that towards the end of NCO training we had a lecture (by a shrink/officer hybrid) about the most effective way to prevent PTSD before the T is even Ped, which is, unintuitively, immediate debriefing.

03:28:06 adlai: given the forum and audience - more words in one ear and out the other

03:28:44 asciilifeform: adlai: in american army - ketamine.

03:29:23 asciilifeform: (not sure if this is 'official' method, but it was being tested a few years back, and a reserve grunt confirmed it when i asked)

03:30:03 adlai: (/= prevent treat mitigate etc)

03:31:06 adlai: dissos help with depression to some dubious degree. i'm not convinced this'll prove long-term to be more reliable a cure than "ceremony helps with personal growth", modulo shamans

03:31:57 mircea_popescu: "The McCulloch-Pitts neuron worked by inputting either a 1 or 0 for each of the inputs, where 1 represented true and 0 false. "

03:32:02 mircea_popescu: ahahaha this is so not how neurons work.

03:32:23 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: and airplanes don't flap ! newz at 11 !

03:32:33 mircea_popescu: this is fucking endearing.

03:32:36 mircea_popescu: seriously, "1 and 0" ?

03:32:46 mircea_popescu: this is my new favourite man-hammer example

03:33:29 asciilifeform: anyway it was 1/0 time weight

03:33:32 asciilifeform: *times

03:33:40 mircea_popescu: if only neurons were disctrete logic gates. a) i'd feel much better about nature being an idiot ; b) i wouldn't be around to figure that one out anyway.

03:34:05 asciilifeform: (it is interesting to consider how nn became useful only when it ~entirely~ dropped the pretense of biomimeticism - where in nature do you find backpropagation !!!???)

03:34:29 asciilifeform: sorta how airplane became a thing when folks quit trying to flap wings.

03:34:49 mircea_popescu: anyway, to get back to it. romanian expression to denote that dubious state when a previously intelligent, middle class fellow is going irrecoverably nuts is, "ii fileaza o lampa".

03:35:02 mircea_popescu: the noun refers directly to an old style glass diode

03:35:33 mircea_popescu: the verb, a fila, describes the careful, discreet look a poker player gives his card, as well as transitional and usually undesired processes in diodes.

03:35:50 mircea_popescu: this is how fucking neurons work : like electronics burning off.

03:36:50 asciilifeform: except that electronics don't extend tendrils (cruddy euro lead-free solder excepted...)

03:37:01 mircea_popescu: no, because they explode.

03:37:06 mircea_popescu: if they were less brissant they would.

03:38:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43196 @ 0.00055346 = 23.9073 BTC [-] {4}

03:38:37 mircea_popescu: incidentally, unless i deeply misunderstand something, backpropagation is botyh found in nature and introduced in nn on an offshot hoped to better mimic.

03:39:18 asciilifeform: absolutely not.

03:39:25 mircea_popescu: which part ?

03:39:31 asciilifeform: both

03:40:12 asciilifeform: backpropagation is when you train the net by taking the errors and working backwards, 'punishing' the weights which produced it proportionately.

03:40:15 asciilifeform: roughly speaking.

03:40:35 mircea_popescu: this actually happens.

03:40:40 asciilifeform: http://mattmazur.com/2015/03/17/a-step-by-step-backpropagation-example << see also

03:40:43 assbot: A Step by Step Backpropagation Example – Matt Mazur ... ( http://bit.ly/1nObnLK )

03:40:55 mircea_popescu: for instance sight is based on it : neurons that produce less valuable output are inhibited by the ones producing the better output.

03:41:19 asciilifeform: aha but (as far as anybody knows) it does not methodically propagate through whole brain.

03:41:23 mircea_popescu: so in a field of 3x3 you won't get equal output from all 9 but usually most of the input from just one

03:41:39 mircea_popescu: well ignorance is a poor argument, but we know for a fact something like it is at work in perception selection

03:41:57 asciilifeform: the idea is not entirely unbiological, but is about as related to what meat does as the wings of a 747 are to a bird's.

03:42:18 mircea_popescu: aite.

03:51:03 BingoBoingo: Oh fraudsters header returns with more pyramid and afro

03:55:07 mod6: Update: Testing & Finalizing changes on V [v99996]

03:58:02 mod6: will update the build script that we've all been using (as referenced by wiki.bitcoin-assets.com) too.

03:59:27 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

03:59:35 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 392.43, vol: 6521.08086997 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 394.337, vol: 4683.98498 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 391.92, vol: 12911.77321324 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 395.694, vol: 34202.76930000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 395.95, vol: 621.97011415 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 401.550863989, vol: 28.48649467 | Volume-weighted last average: 394.404465355

04:00:30 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency rmb

04:00:37 gribble: BTCChina BTCRMB last: 2603.98, vol: 34143.83700000 | Volume-weighted last average: 2603.98

04:03:18 BingoBoingo: FEDS CAPTURE BUNDY?!

04:34:15 BingoBoingo: Bahamas meme omitted from latest qntra because srs bsns

04:34:20 BingoBoingo: !Up felipelalli

04:34:32 deedbot-: [Qntra] Militia Hero Killed, Ammon Bundy And Others Captured - http://qntra.net/2016/01/militia-hero-killed-ammon-bundy-and-others-captured/

04:36:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14604 @ 0.00054748 = 7.9954 BTC [-]

04:38:29 BingoBoingo: So feds violently capture the bundy brothers and 5 other people to what exactly? Make the hundred or so other armed militiament raise their guard?

04:39:49 adlai: but this is greatly reassuring, it suggests usg will build coke machines regardless of their EV signum, saving worried folks the trouble of proving it one way or the other

04:40:55 adlai: let us hope for wiser tyrants tomorrow.

04:45:06 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/Popehat/status/692181581990105088

04:47:48 adlai: https://youtu.be/_mTI2yHemEY <--> https://isotropic.org/papers/chicken.pdf

04:47:49 assbot: Bitcoin Bitcoin Bitcoin - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1lQAbBa )

04:47:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1lQAbRy )

04:48:51 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: didja think they had some magical elixir to magic away usg ?

04:49:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Maybe?

04:50:08 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Seemed to be working for the Elder Bundy in Nevada

04:50:09 asciilifeform: the single corpse suggests that they plugged the fella keeping night watch and picked up the rest in their pajamas.

04:51:16 Duffer1: it was tarpman

04:51:23 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: They were apparently in transit hence the small number of rebels accounted for

04:52:43 asciilifeform: snoar.

04:53:04 asciilifeform: anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start.

04:53:12 Duffer1: hhe no doubt

04:53:17 Duffer1: call me when they hit the building

04:53:35 asciilifeform: just as when tim mcveigh 'declared civil war'

04:53:51 BingoBoingo: Sums to crater in OK city

04:54:11 Duffer1: wasn't he solo though?

04:55:08 mod6: Terry Nichols

04:55:45 Duffer1: dudes death is really bad for hopes of peaceful resolution with remainder of militia

04:58:20 asciilifeform: so they'll have a not-quite-peaceful one.

04:58:25 asciilifeform: big fat whoop.

04:59:59 BingoBoingo: in not-peaceful end USG does have to run money printer for life insurance on its instruments

05:01:34 BingoBoingo: https://blog.bitmex.com/translation-of-chinese-miner-consensus-meeting/

05:01:35 assbot: Translation Of Chinese Miner Consensus Meeting | BitMEX Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/23sh5mU )

05:05:33 adlai: "Rejecting the Core immature Seg Wit proposal is very important... Therefore the 2MB limit and 90% fork consensus should bring us to a more acceptable fork, and we wish to see consensus on other issues (e.g. increasing unconfirmed tx)."

05:05:55 *: adlai didn't realize gas mask was required on this blog, too... should've been tipped off by the word 'miner'

05:07:53 danielpbarron: >> Historically Bitcoin is far from "reliable" as we have all experienced. For instance, we had a ValueOverflow incident on 2010/08/15 in which billions of Bitcoin were generated in 1 single block. << bitcoin didn't even really exist in 2010

05:07:56 adlai: miners rejecting softforks and encouraging hard is like... like... i can't even.

05:09:34 danielpbarron: and is "BitMEX" supposed to be confused with MPEx ? or is that just in my head?

05:12:06 BingoBoingo: Who knows anymore

05:37:26 mircea_popescu: o wow, they charged the bundy thing huh ?

05:37:40 BingoBoingo: Well, for a handful of them

05:37:52 BingoBoingo: Still ~100 camped out

05:38:23 mircea_popescu: curious how this theory of "kill ammon the rest will go home" pans out for them

05:39:02 Duffer1: ammon's fine, they killed tarptard

05:39:04 BingoBoingo: Prolly like Waco

05:39:21 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: Ryan's wounded

05:39:38 Duffer1: ya

05:41:09 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist.

05:44:48 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo should end article in a question.

05:47:33 BingoBoingo: fxd

05:55:47 mircea_popescu: Duffer1 right you are.

05:55:54 mircea_popescu: well, curious nevertheless.

05:57:10 mod6: alright, all of V's automated tests are updated & passing. manual tests look good so far. documentation is updated. should be ready for a new bundle by the end of the week.

05:59:09 mod6: Salud!

06:02:48 BingoBoingo: "Recruits and their parents will have questions about either approach, although question No. 1 should be: How could a player the program used to plaster on billboards across the state end up in a video like that?" >> http://www.stltoday.com/sports/columns/ben-frederickson/benfred-if-clean-mauk-should-come-clean/article_9a463c0c-1b1b-5464-8e26-bf9d5ef536c2.html

06:02:49 assbot: BenFred: If clean, Mauk should come clean : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmSL1g )

06:06:24 BingoBoingo: IN other sports balls https://i2.wp.com/memecollection.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/butt-bouncing-cup-cute-girl-gifs.gif?fit=200%2C353

06:06:25 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1TmT0JM )

06:25:05 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.46301616 BTC on 'Yes' - Donald Trump gets Republican Nomination - http://bitbet.us/bet/1206/donald-trump-gets-republican-nomination/#b79

06:28:31 BingoBoingo: lol Trumettes can cry all they like. My establishment boy Rubio's still the BitBet (i.e. real) favorite for the nomination https://bitbet.us/bet/1205/marco-rubio-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/

06:28:32 assbot: BitBet - Marco Rubio will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 0.54 B (54%) on Yes, 0.47 B (46%) on No | closing in 2 months 2 weeks | weight: 37`696 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwMN1 )

06:32:44 BingoBoingo: !up Alopex

07:48:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19300 @ 0.00056079 = 10.8232 BTC [+] {3}

09:54:20 davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386719 <<< feels like tossing a mentos in diet coke

09:54:20 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 00:09:14; BingoBoingo: ;;later tell davout good job https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42tcqm/eli5_wouldnt_it_be_extremely_inefficient_to_copy/

10:07:56 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

10:08:00 gribble: Current Blocks: 395277 | Current Difficulty: 1.2003334065123697E11 | Next Difficulty At Block: 397151 | Next Difficulty In: 1874 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 7 hours, 53 minutes, and 41 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

10:32:29 BingoBoingo: Truefax: After Deliverance was released a major tourism and rafting industry developed along that stretch of river

10:41:15 kakobrekla: !up srijan

10:41:28 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386872 < yes it is possible to do that

10:41:28 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 03:08:00; srijan: thanks adlai for the info. kakobrekla, would you be able to help with that?

11:42:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32740 @ 0.00055914 = 18.3062 BTC [-] {2}

12:39:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30350 @ 0.00055914 = 16.9699 BTC [-]

12:53:14 *: asciilifeform dreamed that the only type of meat now permitted was: worm, and was touring a former sausage factory, where they still made sausages, but never sold'em - only hung them up in specially-made racks to be infested by worms and converted entirely to them, before shipment

12:54:32 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386973 << this is 'experiment' in the same sense as.. dropping a cube of sugar in a glass of water.

12:54:32 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 05:41:09; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> anything involving american 'militia' sums to 0 from start. << they have a word for the dudes knowing the results of experiments aforehand, and that name pointedly isn't scientist.

12:55:33 asciilifeform: usaschwitz 'militia' folk are not pashtuns. they come from the same broken culture as everybody else.

12:56:26 asciilifeform: they are the full intellectual equals of the new york death ray schmuck

12:56:39 asciilifeform: as demonstrated by every single interaction between them and usg, ever, to date.

12:58:15 asciilifeform: i know that mircea_popescu gotta have his 'tough, resourceful partizans vs cowardly, blundering polizei' narrative. but look for it elsewhere.

12:58:34 asciilifeform: (even the urban black gangs are better candidates...)

12:59:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84400 @ 0.00055877 = 47.1602 BTC [-] {3}

13:06:51 asciilifeform: but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa.

13:07:08 asciilifeform: any more than stampeding bulls are partizans on a farm.

13:07:48 asciilifeform: farmer - knows how to deal with the bull.

13:42:39 PeterL: BingoBoingo, "six members of the members of the" 1st paragraph

14:38:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12934 @ 0.00056201 = 7.269 BTC [+] {2}

15:00:41 jurov: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/42u1v8/core_devs_communication_has_improved_thank_you/ looky what a healer

15:00:44 assbot: Core Devs: Communication has improved, thank you. Two more moves, and the civil war may end. : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1JENEaE )

15:00:50 mircea_popescu: lol

15:00:58 jurov: "Move 1) Core clearly commits to a hard fork block size increase, by adding it to its formal roadmap."

15:01:05 mircea_popescu: lemme guess, reddit is pompously calling "everyone ignores us" a "civil war" ?

15:01:14 jurov: "Move 2) Core formally, publicly, and clearly denounces the censorship that has plagued community discussion, and should apologize for not having done so earlier. "

15:01:42 mircea_popescu: herpitty derp. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-01-2016#1386034

15:01:42 assbot: Logged on 26-01-2016 15:22:52; mircea_popescu: Following a campaign by 100 advocacy groups, Facebook agreed to update its policy on hate speech. The campaign highlighted content promoting domestic and sexual violence against women, and used over 57,000 tweets and more than 4,900 emails that caused withdrawal of advertising from the site by 15 companies, including Nissan UK, House of Burlesque and Nationwide UK. The social media website initially

15:02:51 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa. <<< this is factually not so.

15:03:08 mircea_popescu: and i resent the "narrative" implication, especially seeing how it's your fucking problem.

15:09:22 mod6: <+asciilifeform> http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2016-January/000194.html << Cool! I missed this lastnight. Can we use this to build the R.I. as we know it today, or is 'Shiva' the name of the required changes to the R.I. to use tinyscheme?

15:09:23 assbot: [BTC-dev] Tinyscheme Genesis, Cleanup, and Fixes. ... ( http://bit.ly/1WN9kDm )

15:09:56 mod6: Or how do we utilize this.

15:10:19 PeterL: I thought Shiva is tinyscheme stuffed into the R.I. ?

15:12:03 mod6: I have no clue. Was hoping asciilifeform would explain all of this when he gets a chance.

15:12:33 jurov: no he sent today only the tinyscheme code

15:12:42 jurov: the integration to come later

15:12:46 mircea_popescu: mod6 not for a while yet.

15:13:14 mircea_popescu: the idea is to replace json with sexpr which means you'll have to have some sort of scheme in there. and once you do, it'll replace the retarded format of coin scripts too, eventually.

15:13:24 mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind

15:15:09 thestringpuller: isn't sexpr some kinda latex stuff?

15:15:12 jurov: plus, as the database/datastructure (both in-memory and on-disk) implementations in C/C++ are retarded, they may be replaced by scheme ones (don't take that as promise on my part)

15:15:45 mod6: mircea_popescu: ahh, ok thanks for clearing that up.

15:16:13 mircea_popescu: actually it's the hole through which the day comes in, to stick to estalibhsed metaphora.

15:16:15 jurov: ;;google s-expression

15:16:16 gribble: S-expression - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression; S-Expressions - Rosetta Code: http://rosettacode.org/wiki/S-Expressions; Lisp: list vs S-expression - Stack Overflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/10771107/lisp-list-vs-s-expression

15:16:21 jurov: ^ thestringpuller

15:17:00 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if you recall the raging arguments between the hyerophants and the zealots, s-expr was the one faint hope the alphabetic side nailed its hopes on.

15:22:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65600 @ 0.00055229 = 36.2302 BTC [-] {4}

15:54:22 jurov: !up ascii_butugychag

16:06:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13975 @ 0.00056202 = 7.8542 BTC [+]

16:09:21 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387030 << actually the basic shivatron is done, but i'd like to test before posting

16:09:21 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:12:46; mircea_popescu: mod6 not for a while yet.

16:11:39 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387032 << initially the thing is to be used, very carefully, as a kind of scriptable debugger (e.g., 'when a tx comes in, do XXX'

16:11:39 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:13:24; mircea_popescu: but this is a very far seeing thing, for now it means ~nothing to bitcoind

16:11:43 ascii_butugychag: )

16:12:34 ascii_butugychag: my first attempt was a very dirty hack, i re-did it as a properly vtronic thing (to preserve pedigree linkage to classical tinyscheme)

16:12:56 ascii_butugychag: incidentally, ~nobody~ noticed that i used an ancient vdiff that shat out timestamps

16:13:16 ascii_butugychag: mod6: should i re-grind the ts genesis? or can your vtron eat this without choking.

16:14:22 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387021 << if mircea_popescu tells me there are partizans, i'll believe. but the (fed-subsidized!) ranchers are sad schmucks.

16:14:22 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:02:51; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> but in point of fact there are no partizans in usa. <<< this is factually not so.

16:14:38 ascii_butugychag: (perhaps whoever shot out the substations in ca last year, partizans)

16:15:16 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387027 << i promise to explain once the whole thing is up on the ml.

16:15:16 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:12:03; mod6: I have no clue. Was hoping asciilifeform would explain all of this when he gets a chance.

16:15:51 ascii_butugychag: shiva is a very dangerous instrument, and anyone considering using it for whatever purpose will need to read the docs and 'measure seven times, cut once'

16:16:28 PeterL: basically it gives you hooks into the internal guts of bitcoind?

16:16:54 ascii_butugychag: aha.

16:17:10 ascii_butugychag: you telnet and get a repl.

16:17:31 PeterL: is this a step toward a working bitcoin-os?

16:17:40 ascii_butugychag: something like that.

16:18:13 shinohai: telnet yet! I love it.

16:18:59 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag> incidentally, ~nobody~ noticed that i used an ancient vdiff that shat out timestamps << no, i noticed, as well as the "false" string.

16:19:19 ascii_butugychag: prolly gonna have to rebake it

16:19:33 ascii_butugychag: (and afaik nobody cancelled the 'false' for file dels)

16:20:09 ascii_butugychag: PeterL: the goal is much more modest, i just need something that lets me poke around a running trb

16:20:23 ascii_butugychag: gdb is a nonstarter, thing won't keep time with it in

16:20:28 mircea_popescu: and let's stick with the "narrative" bs. whether the us has any sensible life left in it somehwere or not doth make very little difference to me. i'd be quick to believe it makes very little difference to you also, if it weren't for your sad situation of being EX

16:20:35 mircea_popescu: ACTLY what you loudly despise in those rangers.

16:20:40 mircea_popescu: which is to say, fed subsidized.

16:20:51 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: i think even the air i breathe is subsidized somehow.

16:21:01 mircea_popescu: so, how about : you show me you can in fact live like a man, rather than as a welfare child, and then i show you where there are partisans, to believe.

16:21:03 mircea_popescu: how about that.

16:22:58 mircea_popescu: but until such a time, i'll extend those dudes trying to do stuff the same slack i extend you, which is : who knows, maybe they are what they wish to be instead of what their environment seems to dictate. and maybe one day.

16:23:17 mod6: <+ascii_butugychag> mod6: should i re-grind the ts genesis? or can your vtron eat this without choking. << i can throw it in my patches dir tonight and see what it does with it.

16:23:19 mircea_popescu: it doesn't altogether seem a stretch, to me, this. but to attack the concept is to attack yourself.

16:24:45 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

16:26:00 ascii_butugychag: mircea_popescu: what would this look like? kalash, kandahar ?

16:26:09 mircea_popescu: no one can tell a man what his fucking life looks like!

16:26:19 mircea_popescu: all you can tell from aside is what it can't look like.

16:26:19 ascii_butugychag: no but what would count as properly honourable

16:26:30 ascii_butugychag: do i have to catch own goat ?

16:26:34 ascii_butugychag: or is it permissible to buy one

16:26:44 mircea_popescu: depends. is it with money you buy it, or with asshole ?

16:27:05 ascii_butugychag: with money. but then turns out that said goat was subsidized by american occupying soldiers...

16:27:17 mircea_popescu: there's no "turns out".

16:27:46 mircea_popescu: that's the problem here. this constant "turns out" device which allows you to pretend metaphysics beats physics and meta-* rules supreme.

16:27:48 mircea_popescu: nonsense!

16:28:45 mircea_popescu: stop passing by reference and instead pass by value. lest you sit among a pile of knotted pointers wondering where all the value went.

16:30:28 kakobrekla: anyone got that recent pic/link showing bitcoin dev by lines since beginning at hand?

16:31:31 mircea_popescu: yes one sec

16:31:32 jurov: !s in other news from:jurov

16:31:33 assbot: 7 results for 'in other news from:jurov' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=in+other+news+from%3Ajurov

16:31:46 kakobrekla: thank you

16:33:11 mircea_popescu: http://s12.postimg.org/cqy6boot9/bitcoin_core_analysis.png

16:33:12 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PzK4Le )

16:33:14 mircea_popescu: oh

16:33:43 kakobrekla: better twice than nullce

16:33:58 mircea_popescu: lol

17:15:31 PeterL: !up ascii_butugychag

17:17:02 *: ascii_butugychag just now realizes that mircea_popescu would make a world-class sergeant

17:17:45 mircea_popescu: heh

17:19:02 ascii_butugychag: he can say 'drop and fifty pushups, maggot' and it will not even occur to one to not do the push-ups, much less that one is not maggot

17:19:51 mircea_popescu: and perhaps there is even good reason for this!

17:21:16 ascii_butugychag: how else.

17:21:27 mircea_popescu: anyway - i keep slaves, it affords me deeper knowledge and more experience in less time than any sargent could ever hope for.

17:22:01 mircea_popescu: but the deep reason isn't that it doesn't occur to the girls. it does occur. what also occurs is that it doth not, at the time, matter! whether they're maggots or not.

17:22:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49700 @ 0.00056334 = 27.998 BTC [+] {3}

17:22:40 ascii_butugychag: i recall a spiffy mircea_popescu article re: how one ends up having to lie to chix, when telling them that they are worthless, because they are in fact worth something

17:23:08 ascii_butugychag: whereas a bloke is worth something possibly at the moment he charges the enemy machine-gun nest successfully

17:23:28 mircea_popescu: why so sexist ?

17:23:56 ascii_butugychag: how did it go... 'mammalian reproduction shits out horde of disposable males'

17:24:24 ascii_butugychag: hard to argue with this.

17:26:13 mircea_popescu: yes, well, in this sense at rest photons are the most valuable thing in the world, seeing how nature doth not shit them out at all.

17:26:51 mircea_popescu: anyway, this discussion goes splendidly with the article i've been working on, so ...

17:26:55 ascii_butugychag: 'bird's milk'

17:27:01 ascii_butugychag: (or, in the anglo world, 'hen's teeth')

19:02:52 deedbot-: [fraudsters] The end of democracy - http://fraudsters.com/2016/the-end-of-democracy/

19:16:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 79106 @ 0.00054946 = 43.4656 BTC [-]

19:30:33 punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35420579

19:30:35 assbot: Google achieves AI 'breakthrough' by beating Go champion - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1nyFDul )

19:30:53 punkman: "Earlier on Wednesday, Facebook's chief executive had said its own AI project had been "getting close" to beating humans at Go."

19:33:51 mircea_popescu: awww.

19:35:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33800 @ 0.00055139 = 18.637 BTC [+]

19:48:40 punkman: http://news.softpedia.com/news/android-ransomware-threatens-to-share-your-browsing-history-with-your-friends-499508.shtml

19:50:14 mircea_popescu: so basically what, mandatory facebooking ?

19:50:29 mircea_popescu: "dear blackmailer - please do! i was dying for attention anyway."

19:57:40 adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387104 << incidentally the idf has signed its own death certificate; by the time i served, your sergeant had to drop and do the pushups together with you!

19:57:40 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 17:19:02; ascii_butugychag: he can say 'drop and fifty pushups, maggot' and it will not even occur to one to not do the push-ups, much less that one is not maggot

19:58:12 adlai: any self-respecting unit had exceptions in place, but every single new recruit had to sign a form exempting their sergeants from such rules

20:03:29 mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eggnog_Riot << this is one of the lulziest things ever.

20:03:30 assbot: Eggnog Riot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDQPRk )

20:03:39 mircea_popescu: i'm not even sure if the events or the tardpedia retelling make it.

20:16:37 PeterL: doesn't wikipedia have some sort of "needs to be noteable" policy?

20:20:27 mircea_popescu: yes, but it's necessarily a meaningless test seeing how wikipedia itself is not notable.

20:21:12 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_butugychag

20:21:51 ascii_butugychag: so there is a kind of phree volkischer-beobachter they hand out in the train station here. and it had a full page ad in it today, melted my brain, full pyongyang mode

20:22:14 ascii_butugychag: had an obama standing in a photoshopped mountain canyon, sunrise illuminating his saintly halo,

20:22:22 ascii_butugychag: 'thank you obama for defending our public lands!'

20:22:26 ascii_butugychag: i shit thee not.

20:23:07 PeterL: http://www.cracked.com/article_14981_the-8-most-needlessly-detailed-wikipedia-entries.html

20:23:09 assbot: The 8 Most Needlessly Detailed Wikipedia Entries | Cracked.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDTWsB )

20:23:36 mircea_popescu: ascii_butugychag put a pic up ?

20:23:51 ascii_butugychag: i'll grab a copy on my way back & scan it

20:23:55 ascii_butugychag: just so precious.

20:24:05 mircea_popescu: PeterL anything about the most tediously unfunny cracked article ?

20:24:59 PeterL: meh, it was the first thing that popped up. I don't really reccommen the link

20:25:40 ascii_butugychag: incidentally the centerpiece article in that rag was hilarious, it was about d.c. folk fighting over (yes) parking spots they excavated in the snow

20:26:17 PeterL: don't Chicago people do that all the time?

20:26:39 ascii_butugychag: no idea

20:27:01 PeterL: "People are assholes, news at 11!"

20:27:46 mircea_popescu: so how does obama relate to the collapsed urban infrastructure i nthe very fucking capitol ?

20:28:49 ascii_butugychag: fiddles while it burns ?

20:36:47 mircea_popescu: so in a quest for obscure nonsense, we encounter an interesting bit of david blight : "One of the ideas the reconciliationist Lost Cause instilled deeply into the national culture is that even when Americans lose, they win. Such was the message, the indomitable spirit, that Margaret Mitchell infused into her character Scarlett O'Hara in Gone With the Wind."

20:36:49 mircea_popescu: this dude http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/30/opinion/30blight.html

20:36:52 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1QDVYc0 )

20:50:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8471 @ 0.00055821 = 4.7286 BTC [+] {2}

21:04:57 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_butugychag

21:14:49 ascii_butugychag: ;;later tell adlai http://www.loper-os.org/?p=13&cpage=1#comment-17582

21:14:51 assbot: Loper OS » The Book ... ( http://bit.ly/20tnuMf )

21:14:51 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:15:01 ascii_butugychag: ^ anybody else who wanted kogge's mega-b00k

21:15:09 ascii_butugychag: l337 w4r3z!11111

21:15:32 *: adlai only w4r3z secondhand cl3475

21:16:39 ascii_butugychag: pretty decent scan.

21:16:42 ascii_butugychag: no idea who did it.

21:17:22 adlai: ascii_butugychag: danke! i was able to get the pdf from the 2nd link with a textmode browser... "look ma, no js!"

21:17:43 ascii_butugychag: now it just needs to become a djvu

21:17:46 ascii_butugychag: and it'll be a winner.

21:17:56 ascii_butugychag: srsly who saves scans as pdf.

21:18:02 ascii_butugychag: savages.

21:18:22 PeterL: isn't pdf kinda bulky?

21:18:46 ascii_butugychag: bitmaps are bulky

21:18:48 adlai: and on the 8th day, God released pdf2djvu

21:24:40 ascii_butugychag: http://electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/213445/why-does-ti-have-so-many-microcontrollers << random lulz

21:24:41 assbot: Why does TI have so many microcontrollers? - Electrical Engineering Stack Exchange ... ( http://bit.ly/20toNLf )

21:25:01 ascii_butugychag: 'Hercules is a continuation of the TMS470/TMS570 line. It's focused on safety and performance. One of the key features of Hercules is dual CPUs running the same code in parallel ("lock-step"). This lets you immediately detect faults in the CPU itself.' << apparently not entirely extinct

21:31:31 shinohai: ;;later tell mircea_popescu I installed Eulora on my new lappy, any chance you can resend me my pass when you have time? thanx.

21:31:32 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:38:09 mats: i was just in a meeting where bosses decided to downgrade ~10k windows 10 users to TLS 1.0 (from 1.2) because of a bug from patch tuesday

21:38:16 mats: wat

21:39:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40419 @ 0.00055682 = 22.5061 BTC [-] {4}

22:01:42 mircea_popescu: shinohai nope, i dun keep em.

22:01:49 mircea_popescu: do you have the original paste ?

22:03:06 davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387031 <<< pretty cool!

22:03:06 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 15:13:14; mircea_popescu: the idea is to replace json with sexpr which means you'll have to have some sort of scheme in there. and once you do, it'll replace the retarded format of coin scripts too, eventually.

22:03:17 mircea_popescu: word.

22:03:35 davout: i meant to link to http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387060 actually

22:03:35 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 16:17:10; ascii_butugychag: you telnet and get a repl.

22:03:40 davout: :D

22:04:21 mircea_popescu: lol.

22:04:30 BingoBoingo: http://www.vdare.com/posts/anarcho-tyranny-danish-girl-fights-off-attempted-rape-gets-charged-by-government

22:04:32 assbot: Anarcho-Tyranny: Danish Girl Fights Off Attempted Rape, Gets Charged By Government | VDARE - premier news outlet for patriotic immigration reform ... ( http://bit.ly/20tvHQp )

22:23:06 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: reason #310421 i need to move to portland: better air quality. How the fuck do I get inflamed sinuses in fucking winter?

22:23:18 thestringpuller: Georgia is such a cesspool.

22:24:33 BingoBoingo: No that's a reason to move to a mountaintop.

22:30:04 ben_vulpes: or mircea_popescu's salt mine

22:40:37 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386920 << and chetty, in tribute i imagine

22:40:37 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 03:51:03; BingoBoingo: Oh fraudsters header returns with more pyramid and afro

22:40:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19436 @ 0.00055856 = 10.8562 BTC [+] {2}

22:47:35 *: ben_vulpes doffs hat

22:47:56 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: how's that jew fro going?

22:48:02 ben_vulpes: not.

22:48:05 *: thestringpuller has a soft spot for jew fros.

22:51:25 ben_vulpes: > ro-fro

22:56:34 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: you're not alone as a black-dude-with-an-affinity-slash-respect-for-the-non-black-dude-fro. when i let my hair down, everyone from the ethiopian immigrants here to the locals in jamaica all be like "yo man! hao cum yoo iz gott hayur like mee?!"

22:56:53 thestringpuller: exactly.

22:56:58 thestringpuller: lets go do disco now and dance!

22:57:55 pete_dushenski: if anything can ever bridge the black-white divide, it's this genetic anomaly.

22:58:50 thestringpuller: and basic white girls. black gus love basic white girls.

22:58:55 thestringpuller: guys*

22:59:59 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387119 << how did this entire ~1.5k word piece not mention 'power laws' one single time ? iza disappoint :P

22:59:59 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:02:52; deedbot-: [fraudsters] The end of democracy - http://fraudsters.com/2016/the-end-of-democracy/

23:00:15 pete_dushenski: ;;ud basic

23:00:16 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Basic | Basic. An adjective used to describe any person, place, activity involving obscenely obvious behavior, dress, action. Unsophisticated. Transparent motives .

23:00:30 thestringpuller: ;;ud basic white girl

23:00:31 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=basic+white+girl | Basic white girl. Starbucks Uggs Lots of selfies. Dog pictures. I love you all over tumblr. Heart emojis. Leggings as pants. Forever 21 iPhone. Straightens hair ...

23:00:56 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller: i can't not think of 'basic' without thinking of the seminal 'lohanthony' skit about 'all the basic bitches' etc.

23:01:02 thestringpuller: And not to "date" just to hit it and quit it after a fraternity party or something.

23:01:53 thestringpuller: L0L. That's understandable. Having gone to university with tons of basic white girl clones, they do know how to dress to visual stimulate sexual arousal. But that's about all their good for.

23:01:57 thestringpuller: they're*

23:03:05 pete_dushenski: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6iBDwspjMU

23:03:06 assbot: Tosh.0 Web Redemption (lohanthony) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzdyTE )

23:03:48 BingoBoingo: Fucking Reddit tries to applied ethics https://archive.is/y34Ti

23:03:50 assbot: Stopping the asshole who constantly takes an offroad shortcut. : pettyrevenge ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzdEdL )

23:04:53 *: BingoBoingo pretty sure the 'Murican cookie cutter subdivisions are social experiments in the vein of 'vaults' in fallout

23:05:27 thestringpuller: LOLOLOL

23:05:49 thestringpuller: coincidentally in fallout4 you start off in exactly that, a cookie cutter subdivision.

23:07:32 *: BingoBoingo was just commenting on the reddit applied ethics failure.

23:15:14 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387129 << just keeps sargeants from getting fat. wut.

23:15:14 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:57:40; adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387104 << incidentally the idf has signed its own death certificate; by the time i served, your sergeant had to drop and do the pushups together with you!

23:16:24 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387128 << i swear to god this is the primary reason that 99% of "connected" folks use "password" as a password. "omg i got hacked, now i have something to do and something to talk about!"

23:16:24 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:50:29; mircea_popescu: "dear blackmailer - please do! i was dying for attention anyway."

23:16:54 pete_dushenski: "they hacked me! MEEEEE!!!!1"

23:16:55 ben_vulpes: using "password" as a password should be mandatory.

23:17:01 ben_vulpes: "no sig, not me."

23:17:34 pete_dushenski: tell that to jurov for coinbr ;/

23:18:13 pete_dushenski: and what about your 'sig' ? should its password mandatorily be 'password' too ??!

23:18:16 jurov: coinbr has 2fa, soon mandatory

23:18:35 jurov: ur welcome to make your account public

23:19:09 pete_dushenski: jurov: i don't happen to agree with ben on this point. just poking you ;)

23:19:42 pete_dushenski: i don't happen to think that anything should be 'mandatory'

23:20:00 pete_dushenski: let idiots who want to be idiots get raped for the privilege. nothing wrong with that.

23:20:06 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386995 <<< doesn';t seem like a terribly good idea. if those people wanted to make it public, they would have. if they didn't, there's no standing for random outsider, phd or no phd, to ask for anything.

23:20:06 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 10:41:28; kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1386872 < yes it is possible to do that

23:21:30 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387211 << da hell's a basic white girl.

23:21:30 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 22:58:50; thestringpuller: and basic white girls. black gus love basic white girls.

23:21:50 pete_dushenski: who would make a specified password mandatory anyhow ? and if everyone's stuck with the same one, don't you just have usernames left ?

23:22:37 jurov: ben_vulpes: or create a public mpex account, i'm sure that would be something to talk about

23:22:46 kakobrekla: mircea_popescu 'yes it is possible' to rate in private message is what i meant

23:22:54 mircea_popescu: ah ye<a

23:24:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00055724 = 10.8662 BTC [-] {2}

23:27:35 ben_vulpes: that nobody's seen fit to implement gpg session auth is not my problem

23:27:42 ben_vulpes: i have, at least twice now.

23:27:52 pete_dushenski: www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/arts/design/cambodias-new-angkor-museum-created-by-a-north-korean-art-factory.html

23:28:04 ben_vulpes: anyways, 'mandatory' is a bit of a joke.

23:28:07 pete_dushenski: dammit http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/26/arts/design/cambodias-new-angkor-museum-created-by-a-north-korean-art-factory.html

23:28:10 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1nzgFLd )

23:28:13 ben_vulpes: dafuq, even taxes aren't mandatory around here.

23:29:09 pete_dushenski: what are you, danielpbarron ?

23:30:33 ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387163 << page ratio might even work for kindle

23:30:33 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 21:15:01; ascii_butugychag: ^ anybody else who wanted kogge's mega-b00k

23:32:52 danielpbarron: lolz

23:33:10 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387181 << finally landed new job then ?

23:33:10 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 21:38:09; mats: i was just in a meeting where bosses decided to downgrade ~10k windows 10 users to TLS 1.0 (from 1.2) because of a bug from patch tuesday

23:34:04 pete_dushenski: (or was this in logs ?)

23:37:01 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387233 << ditto 'the fappening' ; now everyone gets to see your hot bod and you don't come off like a slut

23:37:01 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 23:16:24; pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387128 << i swear to god this is the primary reason that 99% of "connected" folks use "password" as a password. "omg i got hacked, now i have something to do and something to talk about!"

23:38:36 pete_dushenski: which is pretty much the ideal balance of signals as far as ustards are concerned

23:39:07 pete_dushenski: super fucking meta, yes, but what else can we expect from 'trizantium' ?

23:40:15 mats: pete_dushenski: yeah, i slave for a private univ in boston.

23:41:29 pete_dushenski: !up ascii_butugychag

23:41:33 pete_dushenski: mats: aha.

23:42:08 ascii_butugychag: wtf is trizantium

23:42:39 pete_dushenski: byzantium redux

23:42:56 ascii_butugychag: traditionally that's ru

23:44:06 pete_dushenski: americans are unoriginal. wut.

23:44:41 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=16-12-2015#1344632 << references

23:44:41 assbot: Logged on 16-12-2015 18:06:03; mircea_popescu: trizantynes lol.

23:45:54 ascii_butugychag: mats: working as a reverser at last ?

23:46:48 mats: no

23:46:54 mats: the struggle continues

23:48:23 ascii_butugychag: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-01-2016#1387121 << the sc4mz0rz neglect to mention that the wins were in handicap games

23:48:23 assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 19:30:33; punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-35420579

23:48:39 ascii_butugychag: you and i can also win against world champion with nine stone handicap, quite possibly.

23:48:57 ascii_butugychag: srsly could they not find somebody who ~actually plays~ the motherfucking game, to write these articles ?!!

23:53:36 pete_dushenski: http://dpaste.com/1XS50VW.txt << my bitcoin-developed scamdar is dinging like a motherfucker from this 'glass' company's email. is there nowhere that sv retardation hasn't poisoned ? NO ONE GIVES A SHIT HOW MUCH YOU RAISED !!1 there, i said it. also, no, i won't "think tesla factory". at least not without thinking 'zil scam'. so fuck you and your dumb parallels.

23:53:37 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1PTIggC )

23:54:27 pete_dushenski: "it's like the uber of ice cream shops". yea, i'm sure that's what the kid the the bicycle-mounted ice cream cooler is.

23:57:42 shinohai: https://redd.it/42zzgt

23:57:44 assbot: Butter behind consider.it, a voting platform claiming to have been used by NASA, says that the website isn't ready for "robust voting". That's after a three years in development. : Buttcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1Scjn64 )

23:58:18 jurov: lol dunno why it reminded me to "they live" glasses

23:59:19 pete_dushenski: http://blog.stephenwolfram.com/2016/01/farewell-marvin-minsky-19272016/

23:59:20 assbot: Farewell, Marvin Minsky (1927–2016)—Stephen Wolfram Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1ScjwGN )