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00:06:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47350 @ 0.00038934 = 18.4352 BTC [-] {2}

00:09:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19500 @ 0.00039258 = 7.6553 BTC [+]

00:19:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12150 @ 0.00039258 = 4.7698 BTC [+]

00:20:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32563 @ 0.00039258 = 12.7836 BTC [+]

00:35:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24150 @ 0.00039258 = 9.4808 BTC [+]

00:46:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17323 @ 0.00038953 = 6.7478 BTC [-] {2}

00:47:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40877 @ 0.00038779 = 15.8517 BTC [-]

00:56:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25170 @ 0.00038736 = 9.7499 BTC [-] {2}

01:09:10 mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue

01:09:10 assbot: PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1QV0ZhQ )

01:09:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39787 @ 0.00039258 = 15.6196 BTC [+]

01:20:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32228 @ 0.00038939 = 12.5493 BTC [-] {2}

01:27:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39671 @ 0.00039991 = 15.8648 BTC [+] {2}

01:28:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22750 @ 0.00040161 = 9.1366 BTC [+]

01:35:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25300 @ 0.00040198 = 10.1701 BTC [+]

01:39:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 38400 @ 0.00040198 = 15.436 BTC [+]

01:46:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17914 @ 0.00042164 = 7.5533 BTC [+] {3}

01:52:41 decimation: mats: is that server-side or does it generate key in javascript?

01:54:56 decimation: mircea_popescu: is your "forever living" comment a slight on "young living"?

01:57:12 mats: it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work

01:57:34 decimation: mats: yeah because server-side would be obviously retarded

01:57:46 mats: or genius

01:57:50 decimation: heh

02:06:48 mircea_popescu: no, thereeis scam

02:06:54 mircea_popescu: ;;google forever living aloe vera

02:06:55 gribble: Forever Living Products - Benefits of Aloe: https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Page.do?name=benefits; Aloe Vera Gel - Forever Living Products International: https://www.foreverliving.com/marketing/Shop.do?productCode=015; Forever Living Products | Aloe Vera Products | Multi-Level Marketing ...: https://www.foreverliving.com/

02:07:03 decimation: heh

02:07:14 mircea_popescu: they sell aloe vera for everytying

02:07:35 mircea_popescu: (/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches)

02:09:57 decimation: no doubt some plant extracts can solve medical issues

02:10:18 decimation: but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products

02:10:41 mircea_popescu: this thing is strictly separated from any consideration but sales.

02:10:49 mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology.

02:11:08 mircea_popescu: they're selling two gallon potable extract

02:11:19 decimation: heh

02:11:24 mircea_popescu: yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e

02:11:40 decimation: I've had aloe vera yogurt before

02:11:42 decimation: it was weird

02:15:51 mircea_popescu: incidentally ben_ meh

02:16:03 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?

02:16:04 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:19:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25736 @ 0.00042369 = 10.9041 BTC [+] {2}

02:21:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3900 @ 0.00041848 = 1.6321 BTC [-]

02:39:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45423 @ 0.0004237 = 19.2457 BTC [+]

02:42:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ever seen https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/1120 ?

02:42:31 assbot: already have block - causing bandwidth to be wasted - vicious circle? · Issue #1120 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TTgCpc )

02:43:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the article or the effect described therein ?

02:43:45 mircea_popescu: "works as intended"

02:43:51 asciilifeform: almost certain i've seen the effect.

02:44:20 asciilifeform: in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit.

02:44:39 mircea_popescu: yes.

02:44:53 asciilifeform: aaaand notice what the bugger proposes as 'solution on the way'

02:45:04 asciilifeform: under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.'

02:45:08 asciilifeform: guess what 2964 was.

02:45:33 mircea_popescu: i linked you lol, i dun need to guess

02:45:39 asciilifeform: aha

02:45:45 asciilifeform: addressing studio audience!

02:46:03 decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?

02:46:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178565 << and apparently also good for >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1177279

02:46:21 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:10:49; mircea_popescu: aloe vera is useful in dermatology.

02:46:21 assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg

02:47:09 asciilifeform: http://www.cs.umd.edu/~elaine/teaching/cryptocurrency/cryptocurrency.html << still up...

02:47:10 assbot: CMSC 818I: Science of Crypto-Currency ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRrmCS )

02:47:18 *: asciilifeform a little surprised

02:47:33 decimation: asciilifeform: you should audit the class

02:47:50 asciilifeform: decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in

02:47:53 mircea_popescu: i really dun expect it'll soon go down.

02:48:04 asciilifeform: decimation: plus it's in working hours

02:48:13 decimation: ah yeah

02:50:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26941 @ 0.00042 = 11.3152 BTC [-]

02:52:22 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178590 << tx nuke does this

02:52:22 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:46:03; decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?

02:53:20 decimation: asciilifeform: yeah I was being silly

02:56:46 mircea_popescu: ;;bc,stats

02:56:50 gribble: Current Blocks: 362724 | Current Difficulty: 4.969238635489384E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 362879 | Next Difficulty In: 155 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 day, 0 hours, 38 minutes, and 8 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

02:57:13 decimation: ;;ticker

02:57:14 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 243.04, Best ask: 243.13, Bid-ask spread: 0.09000, Last trade: 243.13, 24 hour volume: 10324.91808216, 24 hour low: 240.61, 24 hour high: 243.9, 24 hour vwap: None

02:57:26 mircea_popescu: no changes eh.

02:57:30 decimation: so much for bitcoin instability

02:57:37 decimation: it's more stable than eurusd

02:59:47 mircea_popescu: heh

02:59:55 mircea_popescu: well, it's for sure more stabilizing.

02:59:57 mircea_popescu: so yea.

03:01:43 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even.

03:01:43 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 01:09:10; mats: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key hue

03:01:51 asciilifeform: does every derpatron have its own

03:02:39 decimation: asciilifeform: if done in javascript it's not immediately stupid

03:02:43 decimation: other than "why?"

03:03:00 asciilifeform: immediately stupid in the same way keybase is

03:03:26 decimation: it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate

03:03:30 asciilifeform: doesn't need to

03:03:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9300 @ 0.00040718 = 3.7868 BTC [-]

03:03:56 asciilifeform: 1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ?

03:04:16 decimation: yeah I was about to ask where the entropy for the rng comes from

03:04:24 decimation: don't tell me it's from server

03:06:13 mircea_popescu: ;)

03:06:14 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off.

03:06:14 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?

03:06:45 mircea_popescu: ah did it ?

03:06:48 asciilifeform: aha

03:07:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/init.cpp#0168

03:07:39 assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRt87d )

03:08:14 asciilifeform: and http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/irc.cpp#0261

03:08:14 assbot: Satoshi ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtdaJ )

03:08:22 mircea_popescu: aha

03:09:25 *: asciilifeform is not proud of having that thing live in his head now - it's gotta be good for something like mental equivalent of 'black lung disease' - but it can be handy

03:10:59 mircea_popescu: http://dpaste.com/14HRFX8 << quick and dirty census off a few hours of a single node running.

03:11:01 assbot: dpaste: 14HRFX8 ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtB9o )

03:11:13 mircea_popescu: version 70002 - 50 version 70001 - 9 version 60001 - 9 version 60000 - 1 Total - 69

03:11:44 asciilifeform: https://www.igolder.com/pgp/generate-key << server side!

03:11:45 assbot: PGP Key Generator - iGolder ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtH0C )

03:11:51 asciilifeform: did nobody ~read~ the src!

03:11:59 asciilifeform: l0ltr0n1c!

03:12:55 mircea_popescu: (server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?)

03:14:17 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/serialize_8h_source.html#l00044

03:14:18 assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/serialize.h Source File ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRtXN8 )

03:14:23 asciilifeform: is what it'll say.

03:14:43 asciilifeform: see, www with src is handy

03:14:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16039 @ 0.00040718 = 6.5308 BTC [-]

03:14:53 decimation: asciilifeform: wait the server gens the whole key?

03:14:57 mircea_popescu: not the client version tho, the proto version.

03:15:01 asciilifeform: decimation: go, look

03:18:01 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance

03:18:41 decimation: asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism

03:22:26 decimation: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/public-speech-is-a-bad-idea/ < heh, even 'gay in tech' sam altman loses against sjw

03:22:28 assbot: Public speech is a bad idea | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRuIFX )

03:22:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24050 @ 0.00041304 = 9.9336 BTC [+]

03:23:41 mircea_popescu: "runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way".

03:23:52 mircea_popescu: the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods.

03:24:04 *: mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets.

03:24:35 mircea_popescu: singing "you've made your one nail bed, now lie in it" to a happy tune.

03:25:43 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them.

03:26:40 decimation: well, his reasoning is sound, people have no business on twitter

03:26:56 mircea_popescu: he does not get to avail himself of this soundness.

03:27:08 mircea_popescu: he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter"

03:27:22 mircea_popescu: what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ?

03:28:10 mircea_popescu: not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature.

03:28:26 decimation: ah I thought you meant spandrell

03:28:55 mircea_popescu: a

03:29:01 decimation: yeah altman is getting his just deserts

03:29:44 mircea_popescu: i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi.

03:29:54 mircea_popescu: s/ever/either/

03:30:34 decimation: he's one of those on the fringe of the 'reactionaries'

03:30:49 decimation: I think he might actually live in china

03:31:43 *: mircea_popescu has no idea, so wont' comment.

03:32:52 decimation: he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/

03:32:54 assbot: Giving the handle | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRvDpW )

03:33:27 decimation: "

03:33:28 decimation: ?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."

03:33:35 decimation: And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?

03:33:42 decimation: And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death.

03:37:10 mircea_popescu: hehe

03:37:37 decimation: ^ the king (Ying Zheng) was the guy buried with a massive terra cotta army

03:38:44 mircea_popescu: aha

03:39:45 decimation: whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury

03:40:41 mircea_popescu: mercury evaporates.

03:41:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32866 @ 0.000414 = 13.6065 BTC [+] {2}

03:41:32 decimation: apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it

03:41:55 mircea_popescu: aha.

03:42:13 decimation: heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber

03:42:14 assbot: Qin Shi Huang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRwx5O )

03:44:52 mircea_popescu: !up Saoquim

03:51:59 asciilifeform: decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid

03:52:06 asciilifeform: esp. re: the 'immortality' business

03:52:50 decimation: yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes'

03:52:51 asciilifeform: died, iirc, of one too many 'immortality pills'

03:53:08 asciilifeform: 'forever living' ! (tm)

03:53:11 decimation: yeah as i recall he took mercury pills

03:53:53 decimation: asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo?

03:54:04 asciilifeform: on emulator

03:54:10 asciilifeform: but - yes.

03:54:14 decimation: yeah, it was fun with a group

03:54:24 decimation: although the menu scroll became annoying

03:54:58 asciilifeform: it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!'

03:57:01 decimation: heh. 'we didn't know better'

03:57:19 decimation: although I also enjoyed several classic dos games like master of orion and x-wing

03:57:37 asciilifeform: to me, msdos was ~the~ games platform

03:57:40 asciilifeform: still is!

03:57:49 decimation: I believe early nintendo had keyboard (sold in japan)

03:58:03 asciilifeform: aha, 'famicom'

03:58:06 decimation: for some reason they declined to enter the 'cheap computer wars'

03:58:23 asciilifeform: when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console

03:59:22 asciilifeform: they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around

03:59:30 asciilifeform: unlike cbm, atari, et al

04:00:13 asciilifeform: (sega actually made a pc! with built-in 'genesis' ! and it even shared memory with the pc, somehow. unknown outside of jp)

04:00:51 *: decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games

04:02:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8050 @ 0.00041414 = 3.3338 BTC [+]

04:03:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21933 @ 0.00041414 = 9.0833 BTC [+]

04:29:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4100 @ 0.00041414 = 1.698 BTC [+]

04:36:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19511 @ 0.00040704 = 7.9418 BTC [-] {2}

04:42:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00040449 = 12.4785 BTC [-]

04:45:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43031 @ 0.00040191 = 17.2946 BTC [-] {2}

05:08:45 mircea_popescu: !up Bingo_bar

05:12:55 mircea_popescu: !up chicago

05:13:25 Chicago: Hey thanks, Whats the topic this hour?

05:18:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8415 @ 0.00040461 = 3.4048 BTC [+]

05:20:16 mircea_popescu: hm. nothing much.

05:21:04 scoopbot_revived: The actual state of the Bitcoin network http://fraudsters.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/

05:25:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11400 @ 0.00040513 = 4.6185 BTC [+] {2}

05:51:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00040911 = 2.7819 BTC [+] {3}

06:16:17 cazalla: bingo_bar ya should be drinking and chatting to the honeys not irc nerds

06:22:49 mircea_popescu: such as http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lm0mvqsaLC1qd25mzo1_1280.jpg

06:22:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMdHZL )

06:23:46 cazalla: nice big areola

06:31:33 mircea_popescu: "We write elegant and minimal apps that works. We develop web apps with Django framework."

06:33:11 mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/domain/dazzlepod.com/new/ << apparently this used to be a thing

06:33:12 assbot: newest submissions : dazzlepod.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMeA4D )

06:49:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3001 @ 0.00041738 = 1.2526 BTC [+]

06:50:21 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIdT1LEUYAEUfwp.jpg

06:50:22 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMg6Uk )

06:58:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4200 @ 0.00041738 = 1.753 BTC [+]

07:03:02 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CIfFRqsVEAAsQZ4.jpg

07:03:06 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1LMhmqw )

07:07:51 punkman: !up NewLiberty

07:09:27 punkman: !up sinetek

07:38:56 cazalla: https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org/msg00216.html

07:38:58 assbot: [bitcoin-dev] Upcoming DOS vulnerability announcements for Bitcoin Core ... ( http://bit.ly/1Nm5IDd )

07:43:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25750 @ 0.00041738 = 10.7475 BTC [+]

08:14:24 punkman: !up awokestillY2K

08:15:14 awokestillY2K: thanks punk, rottentomatos is flagged too, loled on arnie

08:19:54 punkman: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-33296839

08:19:55 assbot: Greece debt crisis: Tsipras announces bailout referendum - BBC News ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm1c7t )

08:20:11 punkman: apparently that's gonna cost about 100mil euros

08:22:32 mircea_popescu: what better use of money.

08:27:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00040854 = 6.6592 BTC [-]

08:34:35 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMZmw-1wj5Q

08:34:36 assbot: LOLAWOLF - Every Fuckin Day - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm2Iqg )

08:37:34 cazalla: nice one america, now i'm gonna hear even more gay marriage bullshit downunder

08:39:17 cazalla: not that i really give a fuck what a bunch of gender bender trans fluid unicorns do, just the fucking posturing "i'm sooo progressive look at moi, look at moi, look at moooi"

08:41:29 awokestillY2K: lol, who gives a fuck?

08:41:59 punkman: what if you are allergic to rainbows

08:42:13 awokestillY2K: aussie refferendum would cost n100 rainbows

08:43:06 cazalla: awokestillY2K, ya know this will be the hot topic the aus gov uses at the next election to pass the baton

08:43:24 awokestillY2K: bitcoin unaffected

08:44:58 awokestillY2K: you can thank your favourite god that noones forcing anyone to get married

08:46:50 cazalla: !up awokestillY2K

08:47:36 cazalla: u trollin' me vexual?

08:47:53 awokestillY2K: hell no

08:48:13 awokestillY2K: here im starting to work on 48 unit billable days tho

08:48:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68944 @ 0.000402 = 27.7155 BTC [-] {2}

08:48:52 awokestillY2K: im looking for ore to build u a 316 10kg machete

08:49:27 cazalla: i'm good machete wise

08:49:32 awokestillY2K: nuff said

09:00:26 awokestillY2K: machetes are for plantlife kids, lets make that clear

09:01:36 awokestillY2K: thats not illegal yet?

09:02:23 cazalla: http://gov.texas.gov/news/press-release/21131?utm_medium=social&utm_source=t.co&utm_campaign=20150626_txgov-p-scotus_samesexmarriage_06262015_twitter&utm_content=txgov

09:02:25 assbot: Office of the Governor - Greg Abbott - [Press Release] Governor Abbott Statement On Supreme Court Ruling On Same-Sex Marriage ... ( http://bit.ly/1Hm5dZI )

09:03:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28800 @ 0.00039718 = 11.4388 BTC [-]

09:04:37 awokestillY2K: personally, i'd prefer law and religion separate

09:05:11 awokestillY2K: too many abbotts

09:05:29 cazalla: i'm hoping it will act as kindling

09:05:37 awokestillY2K: howso?

09:07:05 cazalla: more crazies doing their thing is how

09:11:51 awokestillY2K: meh

09:14:13 awokestillY2K: seen dope(2015) yet?

09:14:52 awokestillY2K: whats mine is mine whats yours is yours

09:15:51 cazalla: nah, have not been to the cinemas in years

09:16:02 awokestillY2K: me neither

09:16:34 awokestillY2K: i did see madmax on someones recoommendatiuon

09:17:20 awokestillY2K: poor cunt spent half the movie with forks for teeth

09:18:11 cazalla: fuck paying $25 to sit through 45m of commercials.. the fucking hide

09:19:42 cazalla: !up awokestillY2K

09:19:50 awokestillY2K: i think i paid 8.50

09:20:33 cazalla: independents bit too far for me to bother

09:20:51 awokestillY2K: check the xits for entry

09:21:11 awokestillY2K: youll rage tho

09:25:22 awokestillY2K: if you're a madmax fan

09:27:34 fluffypony: cazalla: agreed

09:27:48 awokestillY2K: u seen it pony?

09:27:50 fluffypony: replaced our TV with a Canon WUX400ST

09:28:12 awokestillY2K: nevermind ill release the breeders

09:28:14 fluffypony: and got a Silver Ticket projector screen

09:28:19 awokestillY2K: not bothered

09:28:31 fluffypony: now there's no way I'm going to the movies again

09:28:45 awokestillY2K: i got stuck to the seat

09:29:09 awokestillY2K: waiting for 3d

09:30:19 awokestillY2K: oldman moved, tasty arrived

09:30:34 awokestillY2K: i dont see it

09:30:44 cazalla: can't see 3d.. took me something like 20 years to understand why i couldn't see those stereoscopic books as a kid too

09:33:53 awokestillY2K: its a schooner!

09:34:49 cazalla: ya drinking awokestillY2K ?

09:35:02 awokestillY2K: ^mallratz

09:35:33 cazalla: i'll take that as a yes (still sober this month)

09:35:46 awokestillY2K: im planning sober 2.0

09:36:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17332 @ 0.00039868 = 6.9099 BTC [+]

09:37:46 cazalla: i'm thinking i'll refrain unless i make it myself.. have a guava here and in a few years time shahtoot mulberries should be big enough to make something

09:38:56 awokestillY2K: bats rape mine

09:39:30 cazalla: put up some netting

09:39:30 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gjrf6vzrV6w

09:39:31 assbot: Awreeoh - Don't Get Deleted - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnl3ah )

09:39:39 cazalla: we had possums.. had

09:39:50 awokestillY2K: fuck that, gotta pull the cunts out, hendra

09:40:21 awokestillY2K: rabies too

09:40:36 awokestillY2K: how to solve possum?

09:40:48 cazalla: ask them nicely to leave?

09:41:22 awokestillY2K: whats the purple bin for?

09:42:04 cazalla: nfi

09:43:18 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W54z1Yvvtos

09:43:19 assbot: Coloured bins | Problems | Starts 9pm, Wednesday, 21 Nov 2012 on ABC1 - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlm4X )

09:44:16 cazalla: aww shit mate gotta put the bins out

09:44:42 awokestillY2K: lol

09:45:00 awokestillY2K: u should hear my recycling bin

09:45:20 awokestillY2K: breaking glass

09:47:02 awokestillY2K: neighbours know whats going on like ur dicks on tumbler

09:47:02 cazalla: nah, that bouncing sound

09:47:31 awokestillY2K: shit dont break

09:48:09 cazalla: one for you awokestillY2K https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSiehK2asbI

09:48:10 assbot: #ProudToLove - Celebrating Marriage Equality and LGBT Pride Month - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnlEbO )

09:49:36 awokestillY2K: man i love rainbows as much as the next guy, but i like pussy

09:51:33 cazalla: how self absorbed can one be to make a coming out video where you don't really come out to your parents but just send them a link to a video

09:56:30 cazalla: !up awokestillY2K

09:57:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23550 @ 0.00040982 = 9.6513 BTC [+]

09:58:49 awokestillY2K: does anyone not read ass these days?

10:02:21 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9_YSj9wyjQ

10:02:22 assbot: Snoop Dogg, Dr.Dre & Jewell - Just Dippin' - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnmBkr )

10:06:41 cazalla: awokestillY2K, http://8ch.net/b/res/3236027.html pic one

10:06:45 assbot: /b/ - Clothes on and off ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnn2Lu )

10:07:40 awokestillY2K: you want me to quote on areolae?

10:08:14 cazalla: whatever takes your fancy

10:08:42 awokestillY2K: quick glance i see nothing

10:08:47 cazalla: half these women have shaving rash mind you, guess noone told em about wax

10:08:59 awokestillY2K: theres ;;lasers now

10:09:37 awokestillY2K: big in milan

10:10:20 awokestillY2K: !g japan gorilla

10:11:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.00041392 = 17.0121 BTC [+] {2}

10:14:02 cazalla: damn this one used a broken bottle to shave http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255283858-2.jpg

10:14:06 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnjEg )

10:14:26 cazalla: check the arms heh

10:16:29 cazalla: http://8ch.net/b/src/1435255745416-2.jpg hairy, like animal!

10:16:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnBem )

10:17:17 awokestillY2K: hey if you dont want a precise machete thats ur biz

10:18:47 cazalla: nothing like a bit of period on the thighs http://8ch.net/b/src/1435256482469-0.jpg

10:18:48 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1BJnOOH )

10:18:50 awokestillY2K: im orf to bali to buy cocaine from a north african and install the latest russian adobe update]

10:19:19 awokestillY2K: its all ruit, what else u got?

10:19:23 awokestillY2K: *ruin

10:22:06 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=815O6Qj2Nx8

10:22:07 assbot: South Pacific: Bali Hai - 1949, Martin & Pinza - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dno4Hx )

10:22:09 cazalla: ya know that ukrainian doll never came back

10:22:16 awokestillY2K: which one?

10:22:26 cazalla: mfc

10:22:44 awokestillY2K: wha?

10:22:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29684 @ 0.0004134 = 12.2714 BTC [-]

10:23:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [CFIG] 99 @ 0.054 = 5.346 BTC [-]

10:25:31 awokestillY2K: shes prolly making more elsewhere

10:25:55 awokestillY2K: aint no crime

10:27:18 cazalla: !up awokestillY2K

10:29:53 awokestillY2K: oh

10:29:53 cazalla: shame that nearly all of 'em don't give as much as a smile

10:30:00 awokestillY2K: sorry, thats on me

10:30:35 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2z9lkNn6zQ

10:30:36 assbot: Bali High OST - "Bali High" [Official Video] - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnoD40 )

10:37:09 awokestillY2K: ^

10:38:26 cazalla: !up sinetek

10:38:29 awokestillY2K: !up sinetek

10:38:47 cazalla: ya know if you regged a fucking gpg key ya might be able to do that awokestillY2K

10:39:23 awokestillY2K: when eulora has instructions

10:40:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23989 @ 0.00041485 = 9.9518 BTC [+] {2}

10:40:07 awokestillY2K: whats ur story sinetek?

10:40:25 cazalla: awokestillY2K, it does

10:40:39 awokestillY2K: where?

10:41:13 cazalla: awokestillY2K, see it is already starting http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-27/us-supreme-court-ruling-same-sex-marriage-australia-debate-mps/6578058

10:41:13 assbot: US Supreme Court ruling in favour of same-sex marriage could influence debate in Australia, federal politicians say - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation) ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnp7Hv )

10:41:25 awokestillY2K: dafuq?

10:47:15 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Dsq41LY28

10:47:16 assbot: Apartment - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpAJC )

10:50:42 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NWOa6K7MI

10:50:43 assbot: Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (Feat. MØ) (Jonas Aden Remix) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnpLEL )

10:55:19 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqeW9_5kURI

10:55:20 assbot: Major Lazer & DJ Snake - Lean On (feat. MØ) (Official Music Video) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1dnq56y )

10:56:28 awokestillY2K: 0 princesses

11:00:45 lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=4294967297 (Heiko ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=30064771079 (Heiko ; )

11:00:47 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpoJ9K )

11:01:33 punkman: lots of empty ATMs from what I hear

11:05:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18689 @ 0.00040982 = 7.6591 BTC [-]

11:10:06 punkman: !up awokestillY2K

11:10:16 awokestillY2K: greek atms?

11:10:30 punkman: ye

11:10:57 punkman: also acquaintances told to come back monday when they tried to take out cash yesterday

11:11:06 punkman: before then announcement that is

11:11:34 punkman: *the

11:12:03 awokestillY2K: look on the bright side, youll prolly get cool aussie polymer notes u can swim wit

11:12:26 awokestillY2K: we're tight with the imf

11:12:32 punkman: gonna be a fun week I guess

11:12:56 awokestillY2K: !g red diamond

11:13:47 awokestillY2K: argyles autioning the reddest stone ever

11:15:59 awokestillY2K: http://www.businessinsider.com.au/photos-the-2015-argyle-pink-diamond-tender-2015-6 shes in fashion

11:16:01 assbot: PHOTOS: The 2015 Argyle pink diamond tender | Business Insider ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppSy1 )

11:17:04 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk

11:17:05 assbot: Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JppUpM )

11:21:16 awokestillY2K: euro was a fucked idea from day 1

11:22:10 awokestillY2K: really what r u selling?

11:23:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 66000 @ 0.00041953 = 27.689 BTC [+] {5}

11:24:43 awokestillY2K: punkman might not care but erry useless cunt on the floor wants out

11:25:12 awokestillY2K: thats about right eh punk?

11:25:37 punkman: yeah everyone taking out their 500eur to keep under the mattress

11:25:54 awokestillY2K: meanwhile errone with a shed heres syntheticing diamonds

11:26:32 punkman: gonna be a great week for burglars

11:26:39 awokestillY2K: really?

11:27:31 punkman: well not hard to hide 10 bills, but I'm sure there'll be some jackpots

11:28:39 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk

11:28:40 assbot: Suede - She's In Fashion - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7QGZ )

11:28:50 awokestillY2K: wrong

11:29:10 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Emutat3_IP0

11:29:11 assbot: John Farnham - Pressure Down - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7TTm )

11:29:13 awokestillY2K: wronger

11:30:33 punkman: here ya go https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nAH97GazGo

11:30:34 assbot: Σπύρος γραμμένος & χορωδία "αγάπη ρε+" Έπεσα απ' τα σύννεφα - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG7XlZ )

11:33:00 awokestillY2K: whats tyhis\?

11:36:14 awokestillY2K: tastes like lamb goat

11:38:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 306 @ 0.00629999 = 1.9278 BTC [-]

11:39:43 awokestillY2K: where goat is best lamb,being most resourceful\

11:40:31 awokestillY2K: i only eat the cheese, but still

11:45:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00041665 = 9.1246 BTC [-]

11:48:46 punkman: !up awokestillY2K

11:51:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23850 @ 0.00039718 = 9.4727 BTC [-]

11:52:51 awokestillY2K: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1vxlr7_cypress-hill-rusko-feat-damian-marley-can-t-keep-me-down_music <<<flaggededest

11:52:51 assbot: Cypress Hill & Rusko feat Damian Marley "Can't Keep Me Down" - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1RG9DvN )

11:55:07 awokestillY2K: senn dogg left after this

11:58:22 awokestillY2K: do you even mine?

11:58:32 awokestillY2K: pankkake?

11:58:51 awokestillY2K: back pon a forum

11:59:16 awokestillY2K: u think we dont wake up and check github?

11:59:50 awokestillY2K: we need u bruz

12:00:17 awokestillY2K: whatever

12:03:52 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU769XX_dIQ

12:03:53 assbot: Nicki Minaj - Only (Lyric) ft. Drake, Lil Wayne, Chris Brown - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGavQY )

12:07:02 awokestillY2K: u need to make you a sword?

12:07:38 awokestillY2K: i think i owe u 0.5

12:10:04 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBttKoetqo

12:10:05 assbot: paranoid black sabbath (lyrics included) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1fMDx5D )

12:10:38 punkman: sword or machete

12:11:01 awokestillY2K: machete dont text

12:11:14 awokestillY2K: and is heavy

12:11:31 awokestillY2K: fuck a gookface

12:11:52 awokestillY2K: gookface gets +5

12:13:39 awokestillY2K: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71Lft6EQh-Y

12:13:40 assbot: full metal jacket intro monologue - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1RGbf8Q )

12:51:32 punkman: !up BtQqZrS6gLw

12:51:37 punkman: are those brainwallets

12:52:00 BtQqZrS6gLw: nah that kylie minogue circa '93\

12:52:20 BtQqZrS6gLw: 0 brain

12:53:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98758 @ 0.00039335 = 38.8465 BTC [-] {4}

13:00:40 BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHguy4xHGSg

13:00:41 assbot: Future - Move That Dope ft. Pharrell Williams, Pusha T - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpyPHC )

13:01:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21762 @ 0.00039198 = 8.5303 BTC [-] {2}

13:02:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9588 @ 0.00039113 = 3.7502 BTC [-] {2}

13:07:09 BtQqZrS6gLw: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2t1kzo < buried to the bingoboingos

13:07:10 assbot: The Dukes of Hazzard S03E18 By-Line, Daisy Duke - Video Dailymotion ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpzrgF )

13:10:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00039587 = 4.7504 BTC [+]

13:13:25 BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm8duRDsS8E

13:13:26 assbot: WOLF CREEK Trailer (HD) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpA4a3 )

13:18:44 BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yj2Gv2Zq8

13:18:45 assbot: Machete Dildo - You're a Cop (Anal Cunt Cover) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpAyNd )

13:20:46 BtQqZrS6gLw: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5hA5EuwVfA

13:20:47 assbot: Machete Don't Text! - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGVN5f )

13:26:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2650 @ 0.00039587 = 1.0491 BTC [+]

13:27:12 punkman: !up doyouevenpan

13:28:02 doyouevenpan: machete being the motherfuckinest

13:30:42 doyouevenpan: put the fuck on a horse hell inver and ride pon the belly strap

13:31:15 punkman: http://hexatomium.github.io/2015/06/26/ms-very-quietly-adds-18-new-trusted-root-certs/

13:31:15 assbot: Microsoft quietly pushes 18 new trusted root certificates · HA ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpC3eh )

13:33:42 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVfA9r-AVOg <this is gonna hurt

13:33:44 assbot: Daryl Braithwaite - One Summer - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCfKu )

13:37:42 doyouevenpan: i challenge bb to karaoke this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwoK0u52Tw4

13:37:43 assbot: Kaoma - Lambada (HQ) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpCGEI )

13:39:16 doyouevenpan: better draw a line on fat hate

13:41:30 doyouevenpan: eureka!

13:42:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00039443 = 8.8352 BTC [-]

13:42:09 doyouevenpan: u need a seamstress tape?

13:42:28 doyouevenpan: just go around!

13:43:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 35753 @ 0.00039112 = 13.9837 BTC [-]

13:46:25 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSKJQ18ZoIA

13:46:26 assbot: Ritchie Valens - La Bamba - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGWXxH )

13:47:48 doyouevenpan: dh4

13:48:02 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSuHVYv_dh4

13:48:03 assbot: Earache My Eye Metal - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGX4JE )

13:48:47 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJW67QN24SA

13:48:47 assbot: Cheech & Chong - Earache My Eye - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpDUzT )

13:50:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17985 @ 0.00040181 = 7.2266 BTC [+] {2}

13:51:57 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Alyx4QeRRdg < vuples

13:51:57 assbot: Cheech & Chong - Low Rider - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpEfme )

13:53:43 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcmvwFcfWmY

13:53:44 assbot: Rockin' Robin (Original) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpEu0m )

13:56:01 doyouevenpan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IxMxZ6E0T4

13:56:02 assbot: Cheech and Chong - Me and my old lady - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGXsrL )

14:05:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48000 @ 0.00039429 = 18.9259 BTC [-] {3}

14:16:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178993 << run moar winblowz!

14:16:21 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 13:31:15; punkman: http://hexatomium.github.io/2015/06/26/ms-very-quietly-adds-18-new-trusted-root-certs/

14:17:22 punkman: (tm)

14:19:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00039107 = 10.246 BTC [-]

14:34:08 decimation: asciilifeform: heres yer mandatory keys

14:59:19 asciilifeform: ;;later tell mod6 http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/protocol_8cpp.html << do you know of a way to constrain the width of the graphical diagrams ? (such that they might fit on a reasonable display...)

14:59:20 assbot: bitcoin v0.5.3.1-RELEASE + patches { http://thebitcoin.foundation/doxygen/v0_5_3_1-wPatchesApplied/v0531-wPatchesApplied.txt }: bitcoin/src/protocol.cpp File Reference ... ( http://bit.ly/1eP1XeR )

14:59:20 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:02:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22680 @ 0.0004091 = 9.2784 BTC [+]

15:07:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29800 @ 0.00040932 = 12.1977 BTC [+] {2}

15:21:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27000 @ 0.00040875 = 11.0363 BTC [-]

15:27:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46800 @ 0.00039999 = 18.7195 BTC [-] {3}

15:33:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41859 @ 0.00039894 = 16.6992 BTC [-]

15:55:03 asciilifeform: http://public.wsu.edu/~jackdoll/jak/comp/z80/z80p.htm << yes - computer!

15:55:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1SSGb8f )

15:55:21 asciilifeform: (and is that a bagpipe ?!)

15:56:18 mats: hue hue

15:57:03 mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80

15:57:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00039894 = 8.9363 BTC [-]

15:57:28 asciilifeform: mats beat my record, l0l

15:58:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23257 @ 0.00039894 = 9.2781 BTC [-]

15:59:04 *: asciilifeform shudders to think how much time he would blow on mpexing if he still had account

15:59:56 mats: it helps that i have a window open for this channel most of the day

16:00:19 asciilifeform: i think just about everybody here has a separate display panel for it...

16:00:35 *: asciilifeform does

16:01:03 chetty: me doesn't

16:01:48 asciilifeform: chetty doesn't need one, lives in the meat b-a

16:05:16 chetty: :D

16:18:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17450 @ 0.00039164 = 6.8341 BTC [-] {2}

16:20:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00040353 = 1.8966 BTC [+]

16:25:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00040353 = 4.2572 BTC [+]

16:40:58 mod6: asciilifeform: hi, no unfortunately I end up doing a bunch of side-scrolling too.

16:46:39 mod6: when I get a chance, i'll see if there is anything to be done about it. (if anyone has any suggestions, let me know)

17:15:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 51800 @ 0.000392 = 20.3056 BTC [-] {3}

17:27:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37614 @ 0.00040103 = 15.0843 BTC [+] {3}

17:28:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2599 @ 0.00041272 = 1.0727 BTC [+]

17:33:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3053 @ 0.00039618 = 1.2095 BTC [-]

17:35:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15234 @ 0.00039618 = 6.0354 BTC [-]

17:36:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29816 @ 0.00039119 = 11.6637 BTC [-] {2}

17:55:51 punkman: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9790544

17:55:52 assbot: Ask HN: Why don't tech companies build dorms on campus? | Hacker News ... ( http://bit.ly/1BWYWTZ )

17:57:27 asciilifeform: doesn't google corp. have'em ?

17:57:44 punkman: not sure

17:57:59 punkman: common in china though, works well for them

18:01:05 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-06-2015#1178678 << related to >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=09-07-2014#749841

18:01:05 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 03:32:52; decimation: he has some interesting posts relating chinese history: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/06/giving-the-handle/

18:01:05 assbot: Logged on 09-07-2014 00:04:59; asciilifeform: pierce << ideal example of the animal described on one of mircea_popescu's essays - he could be packed into prison for life, any time, based on what's in his file. so he does as instructed.

18:02:49 asciilifeform: 'giving the handle' is how pedos came to play their seemingly disproportionate share in all american structures, from sport clubs to state governments

18:03:24 mats: hacker dorms is a common thing

18:03:32 mats: e.g. 'Workday'

18:03:45 asciilifeform: whassat

18:05:26 mats: software company that puts interns in such dorms for the summer

18:08:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18401 @ 0.00041261 = 7.5924 BTC [+] {2}

18:08:28 lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; )

18:08:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1eKZkup )

18:10:12 mats: in exchange they get to put on their resume, 'Associate Software Engineer -- Workday, Inc'

18:10:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25200 @ 0.00040851 = 10.2945 BTC [-] {2}

18:10:49 mats: i would not want to live and breathe work but to each their own

18:12:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24036 @ 0.00039194 = 9.4207 BTC [-]

18:18:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37600 @ 0.00039194 = 14.7369 BTC [-]

18:19:01 kakobrekla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 < hey congrats

18:19:01 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 15:57:03; mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80

18:21:47 asciilifeform: mats: many of the arguments against 'google dorm' don't hold water. e.g., the current 'collect 200k/y salary, give 180k/y to housing racket' system is just as impoverishing; 'lose your job, lose your housing' is just as true now for the fools paying those 180k to live in auto range of palo alto etc.; the squalor is just the same in the palo alto 'efficiency' flat as in any dorm; and so forth

18:22:26 mats: its really not that much for housing

18:23:09 mats: you can rent 1br1ba with living room in santa clara for ~2500/mo

18:23:15 asciilifeform: mats: if you're willing to spend half the day in a car

18:23:34 mats: which is 25mins commute from e.g. infinity loop

18:23:48 mats: (former resident of cupertino here)

18:24:13 asciilifeform: there's gotta be a catch

18:24:23 mats: there is not

18:24:44 asciilifeform: tanstaafl (tm) (r)

18:24:48 mats: marginally more hispanics and crime but not noticeable

18:25:30 asciilifeform: mats: so how do you explain the astronomical real estate near the sv gas giants ?

18:26:36 mats: im not saying its not reasonable

18:27:13 mats: but service industry slaves do get by with living within driving distance and renting

18:27:30 asciilifeform: and cabbies spend 12h/day in car, what of it

18:27:51 mats: you won't get the lifestyle seen on HBO's Silicon Valley but it is workable

18:28:05 asciilifeform: l0l the folks in 'silicon valley' live in a flophouse

18:28:31 mats: i refer to kid being promoted beyond competence who buys yacht

18:28:34 asciilifeform: but yes, if the show were realistic they would spend most of each episode in traffic

18:31:41 asciilifeform: obligatory >> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607598

18:31:41 assbot: Logged on 06-04-2014 14:59:26; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ok. considering the what/how debate as accepted foundation : at any time there's a number of turkeys and a number of engineers.

18:35:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9204 @ 0.00039194 = 3.6074 BTC [-]

18:47:49 mats: http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sby/apa/5090668562.html << condominiums

18:47:51 assbot: Unwind Better on the Balcony of This 1BR/1BA Apartment Today! ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhKJlB )

18:49:20 mats: heh, 645 sq ft

18:50:22 asciilifeform: bet it's got no dishwasher

18:50:44 asciilifeform: (pestilentially common problem where i live, on the other coast, also)

18:51:04 asciilifeform: sorta like having no toilet

18:51:12 asciilifeform: yes, you can live there...

18:55:10 mats: you have my condolences

18:55:56 jurov: as it happens... i have no dishwasher, too

18:56:30 asciilifeform: does jurov have dishes ?

18:56:59 jurov: lol i do. but nothing that can't be washed in 5 minutes

18:58:59 jurov: and since there's pub with good food and kebap around the corner...

18:59:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 56650 @ 0.00039163 = 22.1858 BTC [-] {2}

18:59:25 *: asciilifeform used to do that

19:00:17 asciilifeform: jurov: the bleeding edge of this, as i understand, is jp, where you can live in a kind of 'coffin'

19:00:42 asciilifeform: looks sorta like the multi-'resident' mausoleums in b-a cemetery

19:01:01 asciilifeform: open vault, squeeze in, sleep (or watch movies on the little screen)

19:01:52 jurov: i see... but i kinda like to get served and meet neighbors in that pub

19:02:02 asciilifeform: well yes. sleep in coffin, then get up, pub.

19:02:10 jurov: yay!

19:03:28 jurov: when i got a window fixed some months ago, asked them to add external blinds

19:03:43 jurov: and i do use them to have darkness like in coffin :D

19:03:56 asciilifeform: got those here, works great

19:04:04 asciilifeform: except that sometimes forget to wake up

19:04:11 jurov: ^that

19:04:39 jurov: ;;ticker

19:04:40 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 248.86, Best ask: 248.87, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 248.87, 24 hour volume: 14381.80943877, 24 hour low: 241.45, 24 hour high: 249.77, 24 hour vwap: None

19:04:55 jurov: did xinhua say anything?

19:06:52 mats: no

19:08:50 asciilifeform: jurov: http://imgur.com/dGBgxvL << the tombs in question

19:08:51 assbot: Imgur ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhLUl7 )

19:09:40 jurov: haha doesn't look very comfortable

19:09:55 asciilifeform: the ones for live customers in jp are a bit cushier iirc

19:10:05 mats: they prefer the term 'space pods'

19:10:33 jurov: and if, i'd prefer to get cremated every evening instead

19:10:44 asciilifeform: !b 6

19:10:45 assbot: Last 6 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3ZQWZTV.txt )

19:11:16 asciilifeform: phoenix hotel.

19:14:40 mats:  ;;calc [ticker --currency CNY --last]/[ticker --currency USD --last]

19:14:56 mats: ;;calc [ticker --currency CNY --last]/[ticker --currency USD --last]

19:14:57 gribble: Error: Failure to retrieve ticker. Try again later.

19:15:07 mats: useless

19:15:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19900 @ 0.00039778 = 7.9158 BTC [+] {2}

19:26:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34400 @ 0.0004012 = 13.8013 BTC [+]

19:29:53 shinohai: !up TRS80`

19:30:36 shinohai: $fap.lesbian

19:30:38 TRS80`: shinohai: 2013-03-29T12:00:00+0000: Nasty Lesbian Threesome http://galleries.badlesbiangirls.com/photos/190/?t1/pps=house

19:35:14 shinohai: $part

19:46:52 lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=11 (Trustcenter_EU ; )

19:46:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JpoJ9K )

19:53:06 punkman: lots of germans eh

19:58:44 asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes can haz the url of phuctored key preserved in bot ? ty

19:58:44 gribble: The operation succeeded.

20:05:33 shinohai: @ asciilifeform I made a phuctored command for my bot so I can always see the latest keys

20:07:40 scoopbot_revived: Long Term Update https://btctrading.wordpress.com/2015/06/27/long-term-update-8/

20:07:59 jurov: asciilifeform stuff like this would deserve link shortener http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE#6A592C27FA423D7611456BE2AB693337463EA07754CAA07957D6AFCFA63984E2

20:08:03 assbot: Welcome | Phuctor ... ( http://bit.ly/1KhPjQX )

20:10:42 shinohai: $phuctor 5

20:10:54 shinohai: well

20:11:18 shinohai: $part

20:11:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60676 @ 0.00039062 = 23.7013 BTC [-] {3}

20:11:56 shinohai: Hmmm. I think I will give that a shot

20:17:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65174 @ 0.00038989 = 25.4107 BTC [-] {2}

20:27:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30300 @ 0.00038855 = 11.7731 BTC [-] {2}

20:39:10 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.

20:39:10 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 15:57:03; mats: four months of trading on mpex has turned 40btc into almost 80

20:40:22 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179073 << hey could it link to the actual key page rather than the rss ?

20:40:22 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 18:08:28; lobbesbot: New post: http://nosuchlabs.com/rss Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; ) || Phuctored RSA Modulus, GCD=12884901891 (Christoph Giesel ; )

20:40:43 *: asciilifeform asked this today..

20:41:00 mircea_popescu: ah.

20:41:03 mircea_popescu: and in other news... 73.

20:41:22 mircea_popescu: Trustcenter_EU <trust@mch.sbs.de>; among the lulziest.

20:41:32 asciilifeform: thrustcenter

20:41:45 mircea_popescu: lol

20:43:52 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179158 << it's a hash. and chopping hashes is quite possibly how we ended up on planet with phuctorable keys in the first place!

20:43:52 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:07:59; jurov: asciilifeform stuff like this would deserve link shortener http://nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/F23D7F58ABF380DED38B90B7A863487995DE825B7123B745156A8C49D63469DE#6A592C27FA423D7611456BE2AB693337463EA07754CAA07957D6AFCFA63984E2

20:45:21 jurov: i see. full hashes should be used everywhere. except for btc-dev patches ;D

20:45:22 mircea_popescu: heh

20:45:28 mircea_popescu: not like anyon ahahahaha zing

20:45:39 mircea_popescu: not like anyone types those by hand or tries to memorize them jurov

20:45:47 mircea_popescu: what's the actual ux case for shortening it.

20:45:48 jurov: btw, have you seen my conclusion that gpg signature does not contain anything useful?

20:45:54 asciilifeform: jurov: yes!

20:46:12 asciilifeform: jurov: you were quite right, it won't do, and i oughta have remembered this factoid

20:46:30 mircea_popescu: assbot: Unwind Better on the Balcony of This 1BR/1BA Apartment Today! <<< ahahaha omfg.

20:46:32 asciilifeform: but munged filenames still stink

20:47:01 mircea_popescu: i'd have so much trouble paying more than 4, maaaaybe 500 bucks for something like that....

20:47:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 500 buys a doghouse here. don't even want to imagine what it buys on west coast usa

20:47:48 jurov: well. i am sending hashes in headers too, but getting anyone to use them...

20:47:54 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179112 << don't be a noob. dishes are merely the expansion of an invisible slave empire. if you have jets you better have slave hands to go to the farmer market, and to fill the dishes, anbd to wash the dishes.

20:47:54 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 18:56:30; asciilifeform: does jurov have dishes ?

20:48:19 mircea_popescu: jurov i suspect trhat is the correct approach : add to the header space.

20:48:29 asciilifeform: whatever happened to the dark future of robot slaves

20:49:00 mircea_popescu: fuck that.

20:49:08 mircea_popescu: figuratively speaking.

20:49:25 asciilifeform: see, i'm one of those weirdos who keeps, for instance, a computerized vacuum cleaner

20:49:44 asciilifeform: because 1) no i won't do it with bare hands 2) yes, could pay people, but i ~fucking hate people~

20:49:56 mircea_popescu: in other news, omfg bitcoind is a hog.

20:50:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which one ?

20:50:08 mircea_popescu: the stock one.

20:50:32 mircea_popescu: we fucking forget. omfg the thing... no wonder nobody runs it. i doubt very much it can be run. like, at all.

20:50:47 asciilifeform: (yes, they're all porcine, but which hog? the little piglet, the muscular european boar, or the half-tonne monster fucked on midwest usa farms ..?)

20:50:52 mircea_popescu: i am looking at 10!!111 load on a 8 cpu, 32 gb raid ssd machine.

20:51:00 asciilifeform: it doesn't parallelize

20:51:05 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu oughtaknowthat

20:51:20 mircea_popescu: the cpu utilization is actually low, but the load is immense because i dunno wtf it does but something stupid.

20:51:27 asciilifeform: i/o

20:51:33 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah, it's multithreaded doesn't parallelize :D

20:51:50 mircea_popescu: it's from teh future.

20:51:58 asciilifeform: there's precisely 1 thread that does actual werk

20:52:21 asciilifeform: (if you like thinking about scary dangerous forkz, picture changing this!)

20:53:30 jurov: mircea_popescu: did you publish your addy? it may be an attack

20:53:56 mircea_popescu: this is an unadvertised test run of various releases.

20:53:58 jurov: my 0.10 is chugging around on celeron+5400rpm spinning rot okay

20:54:21 mircea_popescu: the advertised seeder has been working more or less ok - it's not being attacked more than is implicit in the protocol lol.

20:54:41 mircea_popescu: something to the tune of 30ish connections, which seems reasonable for a day old peer.

20:54:57 jurov: o it still syncs?

20:56:01 jurov: lol no it actually died

20:56:09 jurov: 2015-06-27 19:30:42 ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool : nonstandard transaction: dust

20:56:11 jurov: 2015-06-27 19:30:48 ERROR: ReadBlockFromDisk : OpenBlockFile failed

20:56:19 jurov: ^last log before croaking

20:56:41 asciilifeform: http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/tiny/tinyterminal.html << archaeological interest

20:56:43 assbot: Smallest 80x25 PC display for less than $20 and other tiny screens ... ( http://bit.ly/1LuZkLq )

20:57:31 mircea_popescu: jurov so wait, is this your 0.10 that was working ok ?

20:57:41 jurov: was.

20:57:45 mircea_popescu: lol

20:57:56 mircea_popescu: "oh my computer is working fine with bitcoind stopped on it"

20:58:31 mircea_popescu: as an absolute prerequisite to any sort of block increase we ABSOLUTELY MUST clean up these shit-stables

20:58:40 jurov: it ran for months till hour and half ago

20:59:47 jurov: watching it restart...

21:03:48 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw in the spirit of the "connect" issue : having public and private data separate is iirc not supported STILL. you gotta keep the wallet.dat in same place you keep the blockchain. gold help you if you want it encrypted.

21:04:06 asciilifeform: wallet has to be sawn off as discussed in the past

21:04:09 mircea_popescu: this without going into why the wallet.dat, after being plaintext for a coupla years, was only half-ass encryupted.

21:04:09 scoopbot_revived: A second crack at that scary thing. http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/

21:04:15 asciilifeform: anything short of that is waste of time

21:04:29 asciilifeform: (wallet on separate box, z80 if you like, etc)

21:04:30 mircea_popescu: wasn't trying to write policy, just bemoan existing insanity.

21:05:16 asciilifeform: if you just want it in some other dir, symlink...

21:05:58 mircea_popescu: i just amply dislike ~the design~ of it.

21:06:09 asciilifeform: not even sure what there is to ~like~ in the design

21:06:30 asciilifeform: it successfully passes for microshit product, stylistically (and in many ways functionally)

21:07:04 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179126 << i have them too, the result is that i sometimes forget to sleep./

21:07:04 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 19:04:04; asciilifeform: except that sometimes forget to wake up

21:07:13 asciilifeform: same effect here.

21:07:25 asciilifeform: and i don't have a clock (other than emacs clock) in the room either

21:07:40 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ahaha if it turns out this was actually written by poor ms indian slavebois, who kept anon simply because of the draconing IP contracts thery had signed...

21:07:54 asciilifeform: or buried alive with the thing

21:07:59 asciilifeform: egyptian-style

21:08:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a wonder i even managed to make the conference at all. i haven't had a watch or aty allcared about time in a decade.

21:08:38 mircea_popescu: at some point travelling i was like "fuck it, WHO CARES what time they thinkg it is."

21:08:40 asciilifeform: wat, mircea_popescu doesn't have a girl follow him around imitating clock hands with arms, legs...?!

21:08:46 mircea_popescu: nah.

21:09:13 mircea_popescu: there is a "no undies - i wanna be able to fondle your cunt" rule, but s'about all.

21:09:58 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski i have nfi what you're proposing, but my thinking is that it's more expensive and less productive to think proactively rather than reactively.

21:10:08 mircea_popescu: once a bot or w/e goes off, we see what we do. before, we don't give a shit.

21:10:25 *: asciilifeform mumbles something about parachutes

21:10:26 mircea_popescu: this of course is painful for every good white boy to hear, as it's strictly antipattern and countercultural,

21:10:35 mircea_popescu: and im sure it exactly - irritates alf's parachutes.

21:10:49 mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there is great benefit to being antipattern countercultural when being a guerilla.

21:11:16 asciilifeform: of course folks often forget the other thing about the parachute thing - in sov army, they usedta make you sign it, 'i folded this parachute myself. signed, pvt. schmuck'

21:11:16 mircea_popescu: if it made sense to not be thus, you couldn't be, ~COULD NOT BE~ a guerilla if you wanted to

21:11:23 mircea_popescu: which is why gi joe is so useless in the field.

21:12:08 mircea_popescu: other than that, published code is a good idea, sure. but also - anything is its maker property, and the people in question makin things can best decide what to do with it.

21:12:16 asciilifeform: phun phakt: my father was conscripted into a parachutist regiment. and by that time (late '60s) schmucks were no longer! permitted to fold their own.

21:12:32 asciilifeform: sergeant folded.

21:12:38 mircea_popescu: i think most everyone's using github or w/e - but it wouldn't maybe be such a bad idea to start putting deeds out with the code bundles. with instructions. "run this so and so"

21:12:45 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform heh

21:12:59 asciilifeform: turned out, the 'fold your own' thing resulted in too many (from pov of command) splats.

21:13:42 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: deeds with code bundles and instructions makes sense.

21:14:10 pete_dushenski: and i have no qualms with reacting to circumstance, i'm more getting at : what's to be done with unassigned functions

21:14:19 mircea_popescu: pick a gun pick a post.

21:14:27 mircea_popescu: how every revolutionary war was ever won.

21:14:53 pete_dushenski: pick a gun, pick a post ? not familiar with this one

21:14:56 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: here's an unassigned gun for some eager fella: crap out an ibmpc buildroot for therealbitcoin. as in, something one could throw in the iso slot at a datacentre

21:15:13 mircea_popescu: a loosely maintained list of posts, and a loosely maintained list of "don't shoot that way dummy" makes sense, but s'about all.

21:15:15 asciilifeform: ideally, no install, just finds a block device and shits blockchain to it

21:15:18 asciilifeform: without asking questions

21:15:43 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: nvm, got the post-gun thing now

21:15:46 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you know this isn't a random process. what makes you think it's for him ?

21:15:51 asciilifeform: it isn't

21:15:54 asciilifeform: just example!

21:15:55 mircea_popescu: aha.

21:15:57 asciilifeform: of an empty post

21:16:31 mircea_popescu: atm the entry level thing for coders is, "follow the pogo thing, build along, test cases etc". for non-coders is, qntra.

21:16:47 mircea_popescu: for artists i suppose it's eulora work etc. there's really no shortage o shit to do.

21:17:13 mircea_popescu: kinda why i keep asking people "who are you". nobody seems to ever be anyone, which is odd, but anyway.

21:17:37 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform: the ibmpc buildroot sounds like a spec for the 'fraudsters jobs board'

21:17:49 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is really asking'em 'кто ты по жизни'

21:17:56 mircea_popescu: aye.

21:17:57 asciilifeform: and they don't feel like answering, so we can sorta guess!

21:18:04 mircea_popescu: hehe wouldn't go that far

21:18:20 mircea_popescu: "the demands of meatspace readily overwhelm the demands of #bitcoin-assets" << this is everyone's own measure to measure.

21:18:43 asciilifeform: i propose the standard unit of measure be '1 moiety'

21:18:45 pete_dushenski: insert "may" in there, mentally

21:18:48 asciilifeform: large unit, like farad

21:19:13 mircea_popescu: i don't see why i'd want to have an equivalent of the mcd supervisor, calling people at home to remind them they work.

21:19:30 mircea_popescu: just not what this thing's supposed to be, in my dreams.

21:20:05 pete_dushenski: well, people still need incentives

21:20:36 pete_dushenski: sometimes financial, sometimes honourary, sometimes a million other things in a million other ways

21:21:25 mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.

21:21:41 mircea_popescu: because the only thing it does is select for and breed rats.

21:21:52 mircea_popescu: much like tests in school select for and breed test takers.

21:23:10 pete_dushenski: hm. i have more mulling to do on the topic, it seems.

21:23:12 mircea_popescu: for that matter, people also need self-esteem. i'm not about to "provide" it for them, in vacu-sealed packages. and they need to hunt, which does not reduce to "i'ma let a half dozen naked girlies loose in their room see what happens". that's how rich people destroy their children.

21:23:59 pete_dushenski: is providing something to hunt, or the directions to the hunting field, not 'incentive structure' ?

21:24:19 mircea_popescu: seems you've fucked that hole into some looseness by now...

21:24:39 asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu teach us that holes work-anneal ?

21:24:47 mircea_popescu: real ones, yes.

21:24:53 asciilifeform: (like aluminum)

21:24:56 mircea_popescu: kinda how you know if you're fucking live or plastic.

21:26:32 mircea_popescu: (btw - never ask virgin to clamp down on you. it's a little discussed fact that vast majority of penis captivus cases come out of something lik that)

21:27:01 *: asciilifeform never saw anything like solid evidence that said effect actually exists in man

21:27:04 mircea_popescu: (because of the tearing, vagal never innervation makes the smooth muscles over-reactive)

21:27:13 mircea_popescu: does, does.

21:27:18 mircea_popescu: ;;google vaginismus

21:27:18 gribble: Vaginismus: Causes, Symptoms, and Treatment - WebMD: http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/vaginismus-causes-symptoms-treatments; Vaginismus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaginismus; When Sex Hurts – Vaginismus - SOGC: http://sogc.org/publications/when-sex-hurts-vaginismus/

21:27:28 asciilifeform: ^ not same as captivus

21:28:10 mircea_popescu: but very related. a spasm is always at the root of both

21:28:28 mircea_popescu: think of pc as "vaginismus that declared while guy was inside"

21:28:59 asciilifeform: well yes, this is the theory

21:29:11 mircea_popescu: (amusingly enough, romanian even has expression to describe this in man - "s-or catelit" ie, they've doggied themselves)

21:29:16 asciilifeform: but evidence for actual case of 'stuck' (in man, not dog) is approx. on par with evidence for loch ness dinosaur

21:29:24 mircea_popescu: you can't get stuck in dog.

21:29:29 mircea_popescu: missing some anatomy.

21:29:37 asciilifeform: dog in dog

21:29:41 mircea_popescu: ah

21:29:49 asciilifeform: (where this is sop)

21:30:01 mircea_popescu: anyway, nah, it happens.

21:30:12 mircea_popescu: dja regard priapismus in same light incidentally ?

21:30:24 asciilifeform: nah that one's bog-simple anatomically

21:30:32 asciilifeform: and pestilentially common

21:30:34 mircea_popescu: aha. same principle tho.

21:30:50 mircea_popescu: innervation driven muscular spasms blocks blood egress

21:31:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45560 @ 0.00039442 = 17.9698 BTC [+] {2}

21:31:47 mircea_popescu: ftr, there is no serious evidence as to the exact fisiology of vaginismus either.

21:31:54 mircea_popescu: just accepted.

21:32:28 mircea_popescu: The Most Serene Republic Of~ << this sounds great i gotta say.

21:34:15 pete_dushenski: twas a mighty invention, that.

21:34:18 *: asciilifeform owns a book with title 'the of' on the spine

21:35:06 mircea_popescu: "I am Hilde, from the Most Serene Republic of Tilde"

21:36:08 pete_dushenski: sounds blonde

21:36:46 asciilifeform: hilde, the she-wolf of tildeschwitz

21:38:28 mircea_popescu: ahaha

21:38:35 mircea_popescu: totally. tildeschwitz.

21:38:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00038756 = 4.6895 BTC [-]

21:39:56 asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/motivation.html << re: article - see also.

21:39:57 assbot: Studies Find Reward Often No Motivator - GNU Project - Free Software Foundation ... ( http://bit.ly/1fWBSKT )

21:40:27 mircea_popescu: rewards work well if they're genuine.

21:40:29 *: pete_dushenski reading

21:40:34 jurov: haha, so far "eulora client hacker" positions were filled quickest

21:40:37 mircea_popescu: which is to say : come from things not people.

21:40:40 jurov: dunno about reward there

21:40:44 asciilifeform: genuine in the sense that 'i killed this bison myself'

21:40:46 mircea_popescu: jurov you can fly!

21:40:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform exactly.

21:40:54 mircea_popescu: the bison - genuinely died.

21:41:02 asciilifeform: and tasty

21:41:15 mircea_popescu: how tasty it is never amounts to much impediment.

21:41:36 asciilifeform: well, at least rudimentarily edible

21:41:44 mircea_popescu: cum's the tastiest thing i nature from what i hear, nobody hunts the cock.

21:41:47 punkman: I trimmed the bison's butthairs, but they grew back.

21:41:54 mircea_popescu: actually... nevermind. my burgeois mentality betrays me.,

21:42:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28700 @ 0.00040059 = 11.4969 BTC [+] {3}

21:44:29 jurov: orly, nobody hunts the cocks?

21:46:10 jurov: scientia sciolorum est mixta ignorantia

21:49:01 jurov: (just some snippet i found today, might be vaguely related, but smells by lingua latina canina)

21:50:42 jurov: https://lurkmore.to/Lingua_latina_non_penis_canina lmao

21:50:44 assbot: Lingua latina non penis canina — Lurkmore ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpchbL )

21:53:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16490 @ 0.00040105 = 6.6133 BTC [+]

21:57:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16869 @ 0.00040226 = 6.7857 BTC [+] {2}

21:58:31 jurov: my favourite motto was lately "Historia meretrix vitae" .. on seeing these examples I'm thinking how to get it more...er.. penetrating

22:01:49 mircea_popescu: lol

22:10:31 pete_dushenski: https://www.google.ca/finance?q=SHA%3A000001&ei=_R6PVaHrOoWo2AaA5YPYDw << shanghai composite index taking a tumble of late.

22:10:33 assbot: SSE Composite Index: SHA:000001 quotes & news – Google Finance ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpeaoQ )

22:13:09 pete_dushenski: also, google finance is as bad as gbtc on otcmarkets : "52 week 1,844.09 - 4,526.92" when peak is clearly 5166 on june 12

22:13:24 pete_dushenski: how hard it this shit ?

22:15:11 pete_dushenski: either way, an *index* losing 19% in two weeks is 2008-level of panic

22:17:41 jurov: SHA got cracked?

22:17:44 williamdunne: Down a flight of stairs

22:19:14 mats: http://log.b-a.link/?date=27-06-2015#1179167 << ?

22:19:14 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 20:39:10; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179037 << i thought you didn't exist.

22:20:21 williamdunne: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1176379 << I win

22:20:21 assbot: Logged on 25-06-2015 17:05:14; mircea_popescu: <danielpbarron> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=25-06-2015#1174811 << ya << shit, there go my ocr skills!

22:21:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17700 @ 0.00039984 = 7.0772 BTC [-] {3}

22:22:48 punkman: http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Want-a-shorter-commute-Pay-900-to-live-in-a-6349066.php

22:22:49 assbot: Want a shorter commute? Pay $900 a month to live in a tent near Google - SFGate ... ( http://bit.ly/1dpfbx8 )

22:23:20 asciilifeform: ^ not tent

22:23:22 asciilifeform: scam.

22:23:47 asciilifeform: or hm, just irrelevant photo

22:24:44 asciilifeform: 'Rented a tent, a tent, a tent; / Rented a tent, a tent, a tent. / Rented a tent! / Rented a tent! / Rented a, rented a tent.' -- k. vonnegut. 'sirens of titan' (1959)

22:26:45 pete_dushenski: ;;ticker

22:26:46 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 251.3, Best ask: 251.31, Bid-ask spread: 0.01000, Last trade: 251.32, 24 hour volume: 18319.32232325, 24 hour low: 242.6, 24 hour high: 251.77, 24 hour vwap: None

22:28:39 asciilifeform: google folks should prepare for the 5000/mo tents.

22:28:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46550 @ 0.00041582 = 19.3564 BTC [+]

22:28:43 asciilifeform: because market!

22:30:45 asciilifeform: nobody cancelled marketz!

22:31:09 asciilifeform: that they aren't breathing $5/litre air is only a matter of technological limitations.

22:31:12 asciilifeform: when they can - will.

22:32:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76888 @ 0.00041664 = 32.0346 BTC [+] {2}

22:34:35 jurov: free daily cremations!

22:47:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33350 @ 0.00039409 = 13.1429 BTC [-] {2}

22:58:13 williamdunne: Any speculation on what's going to happen with Greece in the coming years then?

22:58:50 williamdunne: Massive decline or outright collapse, followed by the rise of a Nazi party or similar?

22:58:57 jurov: preposterous prosperity!

23:04:40 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1179302 << it certainly leads to, how shall i put it, "wordiness" on qntra. certainly not all the time, but that's the temptation.

23:04:40 assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 21:21:25; mircea_popescu: yes, but the deliberate design of incentive structures is a bad idea.

23:04:58 trinque: pete_dushenski: part of the answer to the question of making the republic's bot services fault tolerant is getting them within a damn wotnet

23:05:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15300 @ 0.00041319 = 6.3218 BTC [+]

23:05:20 pete_dushenski: how do you mean ?

23:06:07 trinque: well, suppose for example someone hates freedom and steals deedbot.org from me

23:06:41 cazalla: pete_dushenski, be specific because i go so far as to exclude the monthly reports from the word counts

23:07:10 pete_dushenski: trinque: go on...

23:07:16 asciilifeform: trinque: wotnet still made of people

23:07:42 trinque: from within the wotnet I may (depending on its design) be able to explicitly delegate the hosting task to some other trusted party should I be absent

23:07:54 pete_dushenski: cazalla: mostly bb's run-on redundancies.

23:08:22 pete_dushenski: cazalla: i have no problem with network diff posts btw

23:08:27 trinque: asciilifeform: yes but not made of DNS necessarily, or any particular IP

23:08:32 cazalla: i really don't think he does that in order to scoop up a few additional shares though

23:08:48 mircea_popescu: williamdunne no dude. greece has the african scam down pat.

23:08:57 mircea_popescu: it's going to simply leech money off a different husband

23:09:00 mircea_popescu: prolly, russia.

23:09:11 williamdunne: Russia too broke, no?

23:09:24 williamdunne: Maybe some Greek princes will emerge

23:09:25 mircea_popescu: when did that happen ?

23:09:35 trinque: they've got craploads of natural resources in their wallet aside from other things

23:09:38 trinque: broke how?

23:09:42 pete_dushenski: cazalla: the incentive is there is all, hard to tease out the psychology past that

23:09:48 mircea_popescu: the greeks have exactly zero incentive to do anything other than "housewife" and haven't, for ~2300 years now.

23:09:50 mircea_popescu: it's not changing./

23:10:33 pete_dushenski: cazalla: it also encourages more frequent posting and more in-depth research, so i'm not saying it's an unreasonable trade-off

23:10:41 williamdunne: trinque: Thought I'd read something about them not being willing to do so, can't find it now though so probably the effects of alcohol

23:11:02 mircea_popescu: spend persia's money, spend rome's money, spend turks money, spend british money, spend usian money, they will spend someone else's money.

23:11:11 pete_dushenski: cazalla: just that it's a function of 'inherently bad' incentive structures

23:11:13 trinque: williamdunne | Maybe some Greek princes will emerge << how bout greek welfare queens?

23:11:16 trinque: wahaha

23:11:26 mircea_popescu: italians only woke up to the model a half millenium later, but basically doing the same.

23:11:36 williamdunne: trinque: How can that emerge? Already exists nope?

23:11:47 trinque: is joke comrade

23:11:57 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: americans will be next... in like 3 centuries

23:12:01 mircea_popescu: Comrade Joke would be an excellent idea for a webcomic

23:12:11 mircea_popescu: set in a faux soviet russia very much like present day us

23:12:14 mircea_popescu: ends up in troubles.

23:12:26 trinque: heh I'd read that

23:12:31 mircea_popescu: me2.

23:12:39 mircea_popescu: there, stuff for people to do. lol.

23:12:44 mircea_popescu: the chan is REPLETE with shit to do.

23:13:18 pete_dushenski: ha!

23:13:42 pete_dushenski: just needs moar people ;)

23:13:58 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as an exercise for you : what is the difference between the disruption caused by the absence of the comrade joke webcomic, which nobody has started yet, and the disruption caused by the absence of x service, which equally doesn't exist but at some point did ?

23:14:22 mircea_popescu: same thing, it'd seem. "our enemies", ie, sloth and stupidity, have disrupted our webcomic. LET US TAKE MEASURES!11

23:14:46 williamdunne: Can't miss what you don't know?

23:14:47 *: asciilifeform is rather perplexed. who, exactly, is lacking for 'what to do' ?

23:14:57 mircea_popescu: what measures could they be ? shift the active from this to that, therefore disrupting this now ?

23:15:03 asciilifeform: there is so much 'to do' that you could eat with arse!

23:15:05 mircea_popescu: williamdunne oh but i can.

23:15:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nonstandard stuff is nonstandard, disruption is disruption. the bitcoin (tmsr~) management model is simply difficult to grok

23:15:48 mircea_popescu: much like bitcoin finance is so slippery, even for the best financial minds.

23:16:09 mircea_popescu: they just break so irrationally with the past.

23:16:25 mircea_popescu: not unlike trying to approximate pi on the basis of fortran four.

23:16:35 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: lol this break is exactly the point i'm making on my 'second crack' update

23:16:36 trinque: man I kinda like that... putting tasks which need done in terms of that which they deprive the republic

23:16:49 trinque: I suppose I'm sentimental

23:16:53 mircea_popescu: trinque just as a mental exercise.

23:17:03 mircea_popescu: to encourage people not to drive themselves mad.

23:17:20 pete_dushenski: http://www.contravex.com/2015/06/27/a-second-crack-at-that-scary-thing/ << aaaand updated.

23:17:21 assbot: A second crack at that scary thing. | Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski ... ( http://bit.ly/1GHJY0p )

23:18:41 mircea_popescu: i am kinda amused by pete's fundamentally tragic figure, btw.

23:19:33 mircea_popescu: he writes these posts in the full knowledge that they'll be like... "NONE OF YOUR DIGITS ARE RIGHT MATE!!!. it's not 4, it's 3. not .0 but .1. not .x0 but .x4. not .xx0 but .xx1. not .xxx0 but .xxx5. etc.

23:19:54 mircea_popescu: "your approximation of pi fails on every single point!111"

23:20:35 mircea_popescu: "i'm trying to do it with integers!"

23:20:37 mircea_popescu: "tough."

23:20:49 pete_dushenski: a poet is me.

23:21:27 pete_dushenski: one who enjoys making a public hash of things, just to let them breathe, then correct

23:21:45 pete_dushenski: it's how i learn, i guess.

23:21:57 pete_dushenski: hopefully others learning alongside !

23:22:35 trinque: yeah keep 'em coming

23:23:46 pete_dushenski: there has to be someone halfway up mt sinai, playing broken telephone between moses and the golden calf lovers.

23:24:26 pete_dushenski: "that's not what i said you idjit !" "oh, my bad, let me try again !" "that's a bit better !"

23:25:19 trinque: I wouldn't be a common lisp programmer by now if I hadn't aired a bunch of idiotic thoughts of my own on programming in public.

23:26:15 jurov: mircea_popescu: another 0.9.1 runs fine for months, only with "errors" : "Warning: This version is obsolete, upgrade required!"

23:26:42 jurov: not sure when they 'cated the warning

23:26:58 trinque: asciilifeform: had a thought earlier driving around re: your observation that there are lisps in many fields: a high water mark reached, then from which retreated.

23:27:04 pete_dushenski: trinque: gotta find the boundaries of the glass jar by ramming into it head-first

23:28:05 asciilifeform: jurov: i spoke of this earlier. it isn't a gavinsignal in the usual sense, but is produced by the crud where version numbers in incoming messages are averaged and compared

23:28:06 trinque: I recall someone making the point that there can be greater distance between men than men and animals

23:28:15 asciilifeform: jurov: it isn't in therealbitcoin

23:28:34 trinque: lisps must occur where there were men orders of magnitude better than their contemporaries, such that the contemporaries barely had any idea what they were doing there

23:28:52 cazalla: jurov, those warnings are the fucking things i've been getting every 2-3 weeks for months

23:28:55 trinque: so they continued on and eventually engulfed the subject in their own shit

23:29:10 trinque: that to me clearly points out the role of power in human life

23:29:15 trinque: to *prevent* that from happening.

23:29:17 asciilifeform: trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around

23:29:33 asciilifeform: just as the slipless ratchet does not exist (and physically cannot. see feynman's perpetuum mobile)

23:29:51 trinque: I don't follow "doesn't leak"

23:30:09 asciilifeform: i.e. forget things

23:30:28 asciilifeform: e.g., archimedes had basic integral calculus

23:30:42 asciilifeform: but then went away for a while.

23:31:03 trinque: probably not enough people got it when it first appeared?

23:31:10 trinque: I recall some theory that this happened with the pyramids

23:31:32 asciilifeform: trinque: 'wanting' wasn't enough in the age of hand-copied text

23:31:40 trinque: there were earlier egyptians supposedly that knew how to make the things, then there were later egyptians that basically squatted on what was built before, having no idea how it got there

23:32:05 asciilifeform: trinque: the ~other~ egyptians (today's) have zero to do with the folks who built pyramids

23:32:06 pete_dushenski: alrighty, time to go run off all this ice cream i've been tragically eating. a la prochaine !

23:32:51 trinque: asciilifeform: isn't this "leaking" more something like not having enough vessels to preserve it?

23:33:12 trinque: someone towering comes along and he knows how to do X; yet without enough others that understood him, it'd make sense that the knowledge ends up lost

23:33:26 asciilifeform: trinque is still thinking in his modern box where preserving things is easy, cheap, and something folks are generally fond of doing

23:33:57 trinque: perhaps

23:34:26 trinque: the vessels I meant were human heads

23:36:11 trinque: I've heard it said that were the US to want to repeat Apollo, they'd have to practically start from scratch, as nearly everyone who had mastery over the processes used before are now dead

23:36:42 mircea_popescu: jurov lawl errors.

23:37:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i find the proposition that "version numbers" are any sort of program signal utterly retarded.

23:37:37 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: write to gavin not me, l0l

23:37:42 mircea_popescu: it's basically an implementation of racism. the presuposition being that the color of the skin conveniently summarizes the abilities of the thing contained in that skin

23:38:47 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> trinque: actually 'lisps' happen because the alternative would be a civilization that doesn't leak. and we don't have one of those to kick around << amusingly enough, re the earlier dog discussion : dog cunt seals, for this reason.

23:38:54 mircea_popescu: i wonder what a civilisation of dogs would be like.

23:39:07 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: vernor vinge's 'fire upon the deep' had just this

23:39:14 mircea_popescu: oh ?

23:39:15 asciilifeform: it was lulzy

23:39:26 asciilifeform: (had many lulz, not just this)

23:39:46 mircea_popescu: i am apparently unfamiliar with the sfs of your home world.

23:40:34 asciilifeform: that one's american

23:40:37 asciilifeform: ultra-famous.

23:40:53 asciilifeform: (and the ru translation is even better than original imho)

23:44:00 mircea_popescu: "The recognition that rewards can have counter-productive effects is based on a variety of studies," << it is strictly based on a felonious substitution. it is exactly like saying "sex can be unpleasant for women" on the basis of the sex we practice being very violent rape.

23:44:35 mircea_popescu: the shit the puritan us does for "rewards" is NOT the statu quo. it is just the retarded, intellectually bankrupt, morally offensive charicature of the world the usian puritans came up with.

23:45:01 asciilifeform: hey, engineering constraint. just like sex in afghan means 'with donkey'

23:45:08 asciilifeform: to 1st approx.

23:45:17 mircea_popescu: so no. rewards reward. being associated with the refuse of white civilisation does neither reduce to that, nor stand for it, nor is a basis of a conclusion. of course nobody sane or thinking wishes to be associated with the filth.

23:45:35 mircea_popescu: just like i wouldn't take a nobel on the basis that i do not wish to have the shiot they gave obama.

23:46:08 mircea_popescu: "oh, recognition has ocunter-productive effects". no. perelman rejected the recognition you were offering BECAUSE IT CAME FROM YOU

23:46:16 mircea_popescu: not "because it was recognition full stop".

23:46:29 mircea_popescu: and no, promises to pay from josh garza are not bitcoin

23:46:43 mircea_popescu: and no, the "opinions" of tim swanson are NOT opinions. because no wot. and so fucking on.

23:47:07 mircea_popescu: the source matters first and foremost. just like you cant have "a message" without first having the key to decrypt the asc with

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