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00:07:38 adlai: nice one: https://twitter.com/kenhess/status/537683098453164033

00:07:40 assbot: Senator Tom Coburn agrees that Bitcoin is not legal currency via /ZDNet, /kenhess http://t.co/eSpwmKOHbq

00:09:16 BingoBoingo: adlai: Already dealt with http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/

00:09:17 assbot: Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtfA9n )

00:09:51 adlai: BingoBoingo: look at the specific tweet linked

00:10:19 adlai: this is like me asking mircea_popescu whether the reason that he talks so much about bitcoin is that he actually owns some himself

00:10:23 BingoBoingo: Oh, lol

00:31:43 BingoBoingo: !up thomas_d

00:31:57 thomas_d: hi

00:33:06 thomas_d: xanthyos ?

00:35:25 BingoBoingo: Lol, even the Obama Daughters can't take daddy Obola seriously http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--QbNEYid3--/yf6kfgkd6icyznsk3jya.gif

00:35:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1vmxtVZ )

01:09:55 cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/

01:09:55 assbot: GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/11vLAwt )

01:12:22 decimation: that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world

01:12:31 BingoBoingo: Text from the letter http://qntra.net/2014/11/gaw-lawyers-attempt-to-bully-coinfire/#comment-2412

01:12:31 assbot: GAW Lawyers Attempt To Bully CoinFire | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvNGv )

01:12:43 decimation: s/guarding/guardians/

01:13:08 BingoBoingo: What about Guar Dings.

01:13:39 decimation: lol from the comments: "You obviously hate poor people, the elderly, children, minorities - the list likely goes on and on. Inflation has been at record low levels for many years now, so your scare tactics go nowhere. Bitcoins only allow the greedy rich to evade paying their FAIR SHARE in taxes and the like, and their evil transactions are hidden from those who are tasked with protecting the common folk, like the honorable senator

01:13:40 decimation: from the article. Progress will not be impeded by the haters."

01:14:10 decimation: "fair share"..."progress"... these are religious sentiments

01:14:22 BingoBoingo: For people with free time http://underhandedcrypto.com/rules/

01:14:23 assbot: Rules | Underhanded Crypto Contest ... ( http://bit.ly/1vPvY4K )

01:16:27 BingoBoingo: !up OgNasty

01:17:09 kakobrekla: bad time to join cloakless

01:17:12 BingoBoingo: decimation: My favorite part is where nothing the Senator says supports the Author's claim in the way he thinks

01:26:17 decimation: ;;later tell ben_vulpes re: explain "usg has generally used the power of printed dollars to make it such that most people don't pay taxes" << Well, I was thinking of the very straightforward sense in which the majority of humans on us territory receive more dollars from usg than give to usg.

01:26:17 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:28:00 decimation: note that these 'payments' are mostly not direct transfers (checks from the treasury). They are mostly things like implicit guarantee to banks that usg will 'force solvency', health 'insurance' (free health care), and 'free' roads.

01:28:27 decimation: One might protest: but they pay taxes too! Except - the eitc rebates much of the tax.

01:29:31 decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah the way I read the letter it's pretty clear that the writer flipped the 'crazy bit'

01:32:51 BingoBoingo: decimation: Either that or the lazy bit...

01:36:31 BingoBoingo: Or the "Oh noes, my 401k" bit

01:43:10 decimation: mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement'

01:46:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46100 @ 0.00039487 = 18.2035 BTC [-] {2}

01:56:58 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ar--rifle-stolen-from-st-louis-county-police-car/article_81836345-b8b6-5dd5-8efd-b76be291afc7.html

01:56:59 assbot: AR-15 rifle stolen from St. Louis County police car torched by rioters in Ferguson : News ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwg4oK )

01:57:23 decimation: BingoBoingo: I like the story about the black folk who protect the white-owned gas station

01:57:46 BingoBoingo: decimation: I thought that story was a gun store, not a gas station

01:58:17 decimation: "One exception - a Conoco gas station and convenience store."

01:58:57 BingoBoingo: Ah, Story

01:59:06 BingoBoingo: 's more boring than I thought

01:59:10 decimation: one wonders why more folks in Ferguson don't have a similar attitude - if for no other reason than the "don't shit where you eat" principle

01:59:51 mircea_popescu: ahh the weather here is so pleasant

02:00:01 decimation: in general, franchise businesses avoid setting up shop in us ghettos for exactly this reason

02:01:23 BingoBoingo: decimation: Well you have to consider North St Louis COunty ghettos aren't THAT compartamentalized. Most people looting weren't hitting where they eat

02:01:30 mod6: decimation: from the other night, this is what sticks out in my mind: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=25-11-2014#934115

02:01:30 assbot: Logged on 25-11-2014 04:00:03; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if the rats set fire to the lab, what'd you expect they'd burn ? the cages or the files ?

02:02:00 mircea_popescu: Bruce Fenton @brucefenton ? 7h7 hours ago @kenhess Do I own Bitcoin? I see your research into me is about as weak as your article.

02:02:12 mircea_popescu: Ken Hess @kenhess ? 7h7 hours ago @brucefenton I don't bother researching rancid Twitterati. And I don't care what you believe that you are. Again, do you own any Bitcoin?

02:02:23 mircea_popescu: ahem. how come all poor research is always defended in the same manner,

02:02:26 mircea_popescu: and with the same mannerisms ?

02:02:37 mircea_popescu: relatedly, how would one distinguish ken from tim ?

02:02:46 decimation: mircea_popescu: maybe this ken guy knows mr. flood

02:03:11 decimation: they appear to have a similar attitude toward civilized behavior

02:03:34 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

02:03:43 Vexual: assbot talks to me now

02:04:07 mircea_popescu: <decimation> that zdnet "ken hess" story is amusing. In their hind-brain, the "guardings of the revolution" who are the shock-troops of the left recognize the clear danger bitcoin poses to their entire world << hence http://fraudsters.com/2013/valiant-prince-mp-explores-the-mother-of-all-echo-chambers-a-saga-of-our-times/

02:04:07 assbot: Valiant prince MP explores the mother of all echo chambers. A saga of our times. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwhP5d )

02:04:21 mircea_popescu: what else did you think the something awful interest in bitcoin is and has been powered by, all these years.

02:05:14 mircea_popescu: roughly speaking, the progre's relation to bitcoin is fat ugly chick in your class that keeps calling you up and passing you notes in class, dozens of times a day. the content is all about how "women like to be treated" and "what makes a good man", but...

02:05:15 decimation: mircea_popescu: the reaction to bitcoin (by non-bitcoin holders) seems to fall into two camps: 1 - bitcoin sucks because I don't have any or 2. bitcoin sucks so I need to steal some

02:05:19 mircea_popescu: the hope is that you may give a shit.

02:06:05 mod6: haha

02:06:14 decimation: mircea_popescu: yeah that sums it up nicely

02:07:27 mircea_popescu: <decimation> mircea_popescu: "all through 2015 we will be seeing a shitton of 50-somethings with so-so credentrials going all weirdo on bitcoin." << no they just realize that bitcoin == no free money for 'retirement' << the problem there is that they actually DID work, and should have some money. problem is, in typical tardstalk fashion, they got scammed and having nothing left, are now siding with the scammer.

02:07:47 BingoBoingo: decimation: Number 1 tends to be incredibly popular amongst people who have other things

02:08:08 decimation: BingoBoingo: yeah pretty much as mircea just outlined

02:08:13 Vexual: so 10 and twenties have more to worry about?

02:08:21 decimation: "I got scammed so we are gonna scam you"

02:08:50 mircea_popescu: decimation just look at all the glbse fanbois who TO THIS DAY prefer to derp instead of admitting that mpoe-pr was right and they were stupid.

02:08:52 Vexual: surely the scamming wont continue forever, due to satoshi being a wizard

02:08:53 BingoBoingo: Nah, 2 seems more popular amongst people who never had anything except through scams of their own

02:09:09 mircea_popescu: then there was a period of ken slaugther powered nonsense, where the losers made threads about how mpex is teh scientology.

02:09:29 mircea_popescu: and on it will go, for as long as there's something standing the zombies will try to crowd it out while pretending it ain't standing.

02:09:49 BingoBoingo: I think the Ken SLaughter nonsense crowd moved on to GAW apologias, almost to a person

02:10:41 mircea_popescu: the "i want to believe" crowd.

02:11:33 mircea_popescu: the only spawn of democracy, really. they fit with the electoral cycle really well. today, derp goes "i shall make money out of cockroaches, just have to have a pile large enough". they spend a year piling up cockroaches. no money appears, but just in time for...

02:11:41 mircea_popescu: 4 years from now, "different" derp, "i will make money out of frogs"

02:11:58 mircea_popescu: they collect frogs for a while... whatever, if it works free money and if itdoesn't at least it wasn't work.

02:12:17 mircea_popescu: this can keep on for as long as how did it go "evil people refuse to pay their fair share".

02:13:10 decimation: When I read something like that I think of that little rat Marat

02:13:32 mircea_popescu: fuck em, who cares. they can starve chanting whatever they please to chant.

02:13:40 mircea_popescu: "fair share" or "hail mary", same difference.

02:14:44 decimation: at least "hail mary" doesn't generally end with "let's break out dr. guillotine"

02:15:24 mircea_popescu: ;;google "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC"

02:15:25 gribble: GAW ZenCloud ZenPool Hashlet - does it really exist? ALWAYS MAKE ...: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=720844.3580; CoinPrism to challenge Cloud Mining Giants | Bitcoinist.net: http://bitcoinist.net/coinprism-to-challenge-cloud-mining-giants/; CFO – GAW Miners – Bloomfield, CT - Coinality: https://coinality.com/jobs/cfo-gaw-miners-bloomfield-ct/

02:15:32 mircea_popescu: dude this is broken somehow.

02:15:52 mircea_popescu: a) none of those pages contains the string and b) as far as i can determine, the only site on the internet containing it is the qntra article.

02:16:07 mircea_popescu: https://www.google.com/search?q=%22My+law+firm+represents+GAW+Miners,+LLC%22&complete=0&gws_rd=ssl << like so.

02:16:08 assbot: "My law firm represents GAW Miners, LLC" - Google zoeken ... ( http://bit.ly/1rwkE6k )

02:17:46 mircea_popescu: anyway, nice going you two.

02:18:52 BingoBoingo: Thank you

02:37:39 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

02:40:08 Vexual: whats the story regarding the hostile ddos bot assbot mentions?

03:08:16 BingoBoingo: !up GrandHierophant

03:08:21 BingoBoingo: !up Vexual

03:13:15 ben_vulpes: hallelujah

03:14:38 ben_vulpes: now to test new bouncer under laptop close and reopen scenario

03:15:03 ben_vulpes: ;;ping

03:15:03 gribble: pong

03:15:48 ben_vulpes: ;;ping

03:15:48 gribble: pong

03:16:17 Vexual: you bought a man phone vuples?

03:17:34 ben_vulpes: getting there, vex. getting there.

03:21:11 ben_vulpes: well a day later and a new emacs/irc toolchain in place

03:21:28 ben_vulpes: for the curious:

03:21:33 Vexual: android?

03:21:48 ben_vulpes: weechat has its own relay protocol, and someone wrote a half-decent emacs mode for it.

03:22:00 ben_vulpes: Vexual: nah, i roll with iphones.

03:22:05 ben_vulpes: !s mortgaged mac

03:22:06 assbot: 3 results for 'mortgaged mac' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=mortgaged+mac

03:23:13 Vexual: oh yes, i forget, but i was being facetious anyway

03:23:21 ben_vulpes: we'll see how well it handles long disconnect periods.

03:27:48 ben_vulpes: https://www.refheap.com/94079 << i wanted to make it a bit more functional, eg bind the return string from decryption to a thing but...elisp man.

03:27:50 assbot: anonymous's paste: 94079 ... ( http://bit.ly/1rnFv1d )

03:28:36 ben_vulpes: Vexual: when the "android" "platform" isn't a total shitshow, maybe then.

03:28:44 Vexual: yeah

03:28:49 ben_vulpes: more likely i'll have moved off of "smart" phones at that point.

04:28:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32650 @ 0.00039643 = 12.9434 BTC [+] {2}

04:31:18 mats_cd03: the #1 thing keeping me on android is now the functionality i get with the moto x

04:31:43 mats_cd03: the always on mic, while creepy, is ungodly useful

04:34:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49400 @ 0.00039254 = 19.3915 BTC [-] {2}

04:35:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11854 @ 0.00038826 = 4.6024 BTC [-]

05:09:43 thestringpuller: record lows on teh mpoe

05:13:38 mats_cd03: i wonder if its the 5% private investor unloading shares thats causing this action

05:16:35 mats_cd03: ...or maybe its just a reaction to BTCUSD

05:18:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 89850 @ 0.00039879 = 35.8313 BTC [+] {2}

05:25:55 thestringpuller: btcusd?

05:35:35 ben_vulpes: well you see it hasn't gone up in weeks, WEEKS i tell you!

05:37:55 mats_cd03: mp noted once that share price correlates with fiat price of btc

05:39:00 ben_vulpes: i'll wait for the data on that one

05:39:04 mats_cd03: and that this latest movement might be a delayed reaction

05:39:07 ben_vulpes: or the analysis i should say

05:39:36 ben_vulpes: that said i can construct like 5 narratives to support it

05:39:54 ben_vulpes: this, however, is a good reason to not be a trader.

05:41:13 mats_cd03: i enjoy the rush from trading on the volatility

05:43:49 ben_vulpes: ever tried cocaine?

05:44:01 ben_vulpes: well fuck you, jenkins

05:44:22 ben_vulpes: lol "enable security stuff" button in jenkins immediately locked me out

05:44:31 *: ben_vulpes sighs, rolls up sleeves

05:45:13 mats_cd03: i dun enjoy the drip from insufflating drugs

05:45:48 ben_vulpes: dissolve it into alcohol, enjoy boner-inducing synergy

05:46:35 thestringpuller: does ti really matter?

05:47:03 ben_vulpes: ahaha well it only appears to lock you out, then it throws up the "no users - surely this http visitor is the prophesiesed admin user!" screen

05:47:07 mats_cd03: my social media is being polluted by social justice warriors

05:47:23 thestringpuller: and this is why I'm playing sim city

05:47:31 mats_cd03: all i got to say is ... you come at the king, you best not miss

05:48:30 thestringpuller: if you cut taxes to 0 everything is ok!

05:48:31 thestringpuller: :D

05:53:41 decimation: mats_cd03: to which king do you refer?

05:54:21 mats_cd03: 5-0

05:54:29 decimation: heh yeah

05:55:00 mats_cd03: the king's men, in this case.

05:56:08 decimation: Think of it in “Lux Aeterna" as moldbug would say. The interesting thing really is to examine this completely artificial crisis - who benefits?

05:57:55 mats_cd03: as seen on my social media https://i.imgur.com/zhCnIBB.jpg << "while you were sleeping BLACK LIVES WERE LIVING A NIGHTMARE"

05:57:56 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjIvfu )

05:58:24 mats_cd03: delicious luls

05:59:41 cazalla: http://www.startupsmart.com.au/technology/rights-to-bitcoincomau-sold-former-owner-cites-possible-malware-isssues/2014112713716.html

05:59:46 assbot: Rights to bitcoin.com.au sold, former owner cites possible malware isssues ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjIR5K )

06:00:49 cazalla: i still stand by the article, it was a policy delete, seems unlikely they would complain against themselves and drop it without any consideration for reselling simply because it is allegly banned from facebook

06:01:25 ben_vulpes: cazalla: which article?

06:01:45 cazalla: ben_vulpes, this one http://qntra.net/2014/11/digital-btc-lose-bitcoin-com-au-by-mistake/

06:01:45 assbot: Digital BTC Lose Bitcoin.com.au By Mistake | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjJbBr )

06:02:30 decimation: cazalla: but he had no idea about the domain or its owner when he paid $A27000 for it

06:02:32 cazalla: plus i spoke to the guy who owned it last year and knew the ABN was expired then, could've dobbed him in and bid on it myself at the time but not something i'd do but super common in .com.au land

06:03:02 cazalla: decimation, it went to the drops, you don't need to know anything about previous owner

06:03:02 mats_cd03: decimation: i don't really care tbh. im armed, and god help anyone who thinks they're a better shot. i know how to kill a four man team breaching my home.

06:03:28 decimation: cazalla: I guess my point is that one might be a little curious before bidding such a sum

06:03:53 cazalla: decimation, i don't really follow

06:03:55 ben_vulpes: cazalla: this got you kicked from twitter?

06:04:03 mats_cd03: i sound like BB after he's had a few.

06:04:50 decimation: cazalla: maybe I'm daft, but in the link you just posted Tsvetnenko said: "“The domain in question was acquired with the possibility of being used for marketing purposes. Unfortunately it was discovered the domain has some serious issues not disclosed by the original vendor, which make it severely restricted in use if not valueless for any purchaser – I’m reserving my rights of recourse in that respect,"

06:04:54 cazalla: ben_vulpes, nah, "violent threats" did of which i didn't even make any

06:05:14 cazalla: decimation, yeah i guess you would say that if you didn't want to go to shareholders and say oh, i fucked up and lost this asset

06:05:27 decimation: so if you take him at his word, he apparently failed to notice the serious issues with the property

06:05:53 cazalla: decimation, the site redirected to localbitcoins forevarr

06:06:17 cazalla: maybe it was hijacked, who knows but you would still let something like that go for free instead of just fixing the issue?

06:06:22 decimation: which of course is much better (in his mind) than simply failing to update it

06:06:53 cazalla: because if people know you can't even secure a domain, pretty unlikely to then give you bitcoins in the wallet you're about to launch eh

06:07:01 decimation: hehe exactly

06:07:22 decimation: in either case, he isn't saying that he fucked up

06:07:25 ben_vulpes: "due diligence"

06:07:38 decimation: just that he fucked up in a slightly fancier way than you allege

06:08:08 decimation: I mean to say "he isn't saying that he didn't fuck up"

06:08:54 decimation: at any rate, I think this is a good sign, you are digging the right dirt

06:10:59 decimation: maybe you can run another story "Tsvetnenko admits to failure of due dilligence; has just discovered the principle of caveat emptor"

06:11:08 ben_vulpes: diligence

06:11:45 ben_vulpes: hate to pedant at you but that one gets up my nose decimation

06:11:46 cazalla: would be a short one

06:11:48 decimation: my damn spell check craps out

06:11:56 ben_vulpes: spell check?

06:12:04 decimation: hehe yeah, hunspell

06:12:14 cazalla: at the end of the day, no-one can disprove what he is now saying as auDA don't release the details of who made the complaint, sure it's possible he did this himself, highly unlikely

06:12:15 ben_vulpes: lol i rely on humspell

06:12:35 ben_vulpes: as in "a human spelled it"

06:12:38 ben_vulpes: :P

06:13:04 decimation: in my past I used to be good at spelling; then I used spell check and wrote code for a decade

06:13:39 ben_vulpes: "i don't need programmers to be *good* spellers, i need them to be *consistent* spellers"

06:15:17 decimation: ben_vulpes: did you get erc and your bouncer server thingy running successfully?

06:15:51 kuzetsa: hello :)

06:16:04 mats_cd03: wb

06:16:06 decimation: revolutionary greetings

06:16:20 kuzetsa: mats_cd03: thanks. I don't talk much on freenode lately O_O

06:17:02 ben_vulpes: decimation: oh yeah

06:17:24 ben_vulpes: decimation: i've been meaning to ask - what is your irc toolchain?

06:17:33 decimation: I just use dumb konversation

06:17:51 kuzetsa: I'm pretty bad at networking in the social interaction sense :(

06:18:00 decimation: it sucks because it doesn't recognize any emacs keybindings

06:18:05 kuzetsa: decimation: isn't that the KDE one?

06:18:08 decimation: yeah

06:18:25 decimation: I'm generally partial to kde when I try to stomach linux desktop 'managers'

06:18:52 kuzetsa: I've used seamonkey's chatzilla before. it's not awful.

06:19:56 decimation: I kinda want to avoid mozilla stuff as much as I can on principle

06:20:04 kuzetsa: even firefox?

06:20:26 decimation: unfortunately firefox is kind of a defacto standard

06:20:38 kuzetsa: I had a bad experience with firefox a few years ago. some greasemonkey stuff was part of my workflow and broke severely several versions in a row

06:21:03 decimation: it leaks memory like crazy and is generally shit code

06:21:19 kuzetsa: performance issues and lack of backward compatibility made me swear off firefox

06:21:24 decimation: plus the way they railroaded brendan eich put them on my 'enemies' list

06:21:54 kuzetsa: but now I'm considering giving the mobile version of firefox a chance on my mobile device one of these gays

06:21:57 kuzetsa: days :

06:21:59 kuzetsa: :/

06:22:03 decimation: heh

06:22:10 mats_cd03: har

06:22:24 fluffypony: I switched back to Safari a few months ago because it has the least battery impact on my MacBook

06:22:27 kuzetsa: my brain did a weird thing there... that's not an easy typo to make. sorry.

06:22:32 fluffypony: and I've grown to like it

06:23:01 decimation: kuzetsa: no but it was unintentionally amusing given my earlier comment

06:23:04 kuzetsa: yeah, I like chrome personally. It's pretty cpu-efficient.

06:23:12 kuzetsa: mhm? which earlier comment?

06:23:19 decimation: about brendan eich

06:23:22 fluffypony: Chrome is nice, but still does ~30% more battery drain than Safari in OS X

06:23:27 kuzetsa: brb, sudden crafving for a bowl of serial

06:23:31 kuzetsa: oh god that's not evven

06:23:33 fluffypony: LOL

06:23:35 kuzetsa: I can't type today

06:23:45 fluffypony: at least you don't need a bowl of parallel

06:23:52 decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison

06:23:52 kuzetsa: what's a brendan eich?

06:23:57 kuzetsa: it almost resembles a name

06:24:08 fluffypony: decimation: pretty much, you're damned either way

06:24:17 decimation: http://www.ijreview.com/2014/04/128448-mozilla-ceo-sen-leland-yee-contrast-hysteria/

06:24:18 assbot: Media Lynch Mob Takes Down Mozilla CEO & Ignores Alleged Terrorist Gun-Running Democrat Leland Yee ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjNwF1 )

06:24:55 decimation: he was the ceo of mozilla that was 'lynched' out of office because at one time in the past he gave some money to "pro-prop 8"

06:25:19 decimation: which was a california plebiscite to make gay marriage illegal

06:25:29 decimation: therefore he was a Bad Person

06:29:19 kuzetsa: http://postfoods.com/our-brands/great-grains/raisins,-dates-pecans/ <<< cereal, I just had a brain oopsie

06:29:20 assbot: Great Grains - Raisin, Dates & Pecans Nutrition Information | Post Foods ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjOBwp )

06:30:03 decimation: mozilla is basically a google puppet anyway http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2013/01/22/so-why-is-google-funding-its-own-competition-in-the-firefox-os/

06:30:04 assbot: So Why Is Google Funding Its Own Competition In The Firefox OS? - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/1yjOLnw )

06:41:51 mats_cd03: !s dead cat bounce

06:41:52 assbot: 5 results for 'dead cat bounce' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=dead+cat+bounce

06:42:35 decimation: ;;ticker

06:42:36 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 370.79, Best ask: 370.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.07000, Last trade: 371.94, 24 hour volume: 12206.65649767, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 377.96, 24 hour vwap: 370.024814316

06:43:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42600 @ 0.0003953 = 16.8398 BTC [-]

06:53:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18600 @ 0.0003953 = 7.3526 BTC [-]

08:26:42 mircea_popescu: nice assbot pm kakobrekla

08:26:50 mircea_popescu: clear an' to the point. anyone pm you bout it?

08:27:41 PinkPosixPXE: ;;later tell ben_vulpes sure friend. :P

08:27:41 gribble: The operation succeeded.

08:28:09 mircea_popescu: omaygawd im seeing pixies!

08:28:40 PinkPosixPXE: hehe

08:29:12 mircea_popescu: :)

08:32:23 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: mp noted once that share price correlates with fiat price of btc << actually the private joke at the time was that it doesn't seem to correlate at all (it didn't move during the early mtgox induced runup to 1.2k). so i was kinda tongue-in-cheek referencing that "public knowledge" as it became apparently contradicted by the otherwise who the fuck knows what it's doing s.mpoe

08:32:41 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: that said i can construct like 5 narratives to support it << hey, me too!

08:35:58 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03: my social media is being polluted by social justice warriors << the welfare state has succeeded in breeding a new type of cockroach.

08:38:58 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: cazalla: this got you kicked from twitter? << twitter is broken in that if you spam it with "complaints" it will autolock accounts. trivial to hassle anyone you feel like, and the powerless generally revel in this sort of thing.

08:40:00 mircea_popescu: course the part where it's like... "you're banned from that shop run by retards you didn't really like or need but visited to support the mentally feeble" doesn't quite breach their consciousness.

08:40:04 mircea_popescu: being mentally feeble and all.

08:41:39 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla ^ i dun think it's working lol

08:44:48 mircea_popescu: cazalla: because if people know you can't even secure a domain, pretty unlikely to then give you bitcoins in the wallet you're about to launch eh <<< don't be ridiculous. "people" would give bitcoin to a boy with no arms that'll hate you if you don't please forward this email to all your fb friends,

08:45:38 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes: hate to pedant at you but that one gets up my nose decimation <<< i kinds feel responsible for the dilligence bs.

08:46:05 mircea_popescu: dear world : i apologize for having come up with fucking double l diligence. it's because i can't spel wortha shit. i promise to work harder at it.

08:46:53 mircea_popescu: !up kuzetsa

08:46:55 mircea_popescu: so how goes ?

08:47:18 punkman: double d diligence is better

08:47:30 mircea_popescu: dildo-gence ?

08:47:58 mircea_popescu: decimation: unfortunately firefox is kind of a defacto standard << o srsly ? check it out, and i never used it! ima go to hipster heaven now.

08:48:32 mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1

08:48:47 mircea_popescu: ello toots.

08:49:21 indiancandy1: hi babes

08:49:28 indiancandy1: how are you

08:50:10 mircea_popescu: pretty great actually.

08:50:36 indiancandy1: ?

08:50:41 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, you know of teh aleks toots - herman simm case ? pretty lulzy.

08:57:03 mircea_popescu: decimation: sign, google or apple, pick your poison <<< yeah, isn't chrome basically one of those spammy "toolbars" they had for netscape that sort-of mutated into being its own browser ?

08:58:03 kuzetsa: true dildo-gence is very attractive

08:58:39 mircea_popescu: lol

08:58:45 kuzetsa: hey you

08:58:48 kuzetsa: :)

08:58:54 kuzetsa: did ya miss me?

08:59:03 mircea_popescu: mmm...

08:59:07 kuzetsa: hehe

08:59:14 mircea_popescu: ;;rated kuzetsa

08:59:15 gribble: You have not yet rated user kuzetsa

08:59:20 mircea_popescu: but i don't even know you!

08:59:33 kuzetsa: we've talked a couple times months ago

08:59:35 kuzetsa: ... in here

08:59:55 mircea_popescu: yes yes i know i know.

09:01:20 mircea_popescu: ;;rated mod6

09:01:20 gribble: You rated user mod6 on Fri Aug 10 20:47:35 2012, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: Trustworthy..

09:01:49 kuzetsa: ;;gettrust mircea_popescu

09:01:49 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mircea_popescu!~Mircea@pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu. Trust relationship from user kuzetsa to user mircea_popescu: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kuzetsa&dest=mircea_popescu | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mircea_popescu | Rated since: Fri Jul 22 11:04:26 2011

09:01:56 kuzetsa: mmm, neat

09:02:40 mircea_popescu: ;;rate mod6 4 The "cave, age, tace" school of thought. Nice work with the Bitcoin Foundation.

09:02:41 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mod6 has changed from 3 to 4.

09:02:47 mircea_popescu: ;;rate ben_vulpes

09:02:47 gribble: (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.

09:02:52 mircea_popescu: ;;rated ben_vulpes

09:02:52 gribble: You rated user ben_vulpes on Sat Feb 1 00:51:50 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: The original Cascadian..

09:03:04 mircea_popescu: ;;rated ben_vulpes 3 Co-chair of Bitcoin Foundation.

09:03:04 gribble: (rated <nick>) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to <nick>, if any.

09:03:08 mircea_popescu: ;;rate ben_vulpes 3 Co-chair of Bitcoin Foundation.

09:03:09 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user ben_vulpes has changed from 1 to 3.

09:03:23 n6: hey i got some bunk rating with you

09:03:31 n6: im no trader

09:03:44 n6: mircea_popescu

09:03:47 mircea_popescu: n6 aha ?

09:04:23 mircea_popescu: n6 i dun recall, what was this aboot ?

09:05:24 n6: friend of mine and me thought we might get on your exchange to check it out a bit, but we failed to do everything right and sent the wrong key but when i can came in irc you gave me trader rank but we never followed through.

09:05:57 mircea_popescu: aha.

09:06:15 mircea_popescu: well okay then!

09:06:17 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate n6

09:06:18 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for n6.

09:06:58 mircea_popescu: ;;rated BingoBoingo

09:06:58 gribble: You rated user BingoBoingo on Tue Mar 25 20:14:18 2014, with a rating of 3, and supplied these additional notes: blogger, my ATC investment banker.

09:07:41 mircea_popescu: ;;rate BingoBoingo 4 qntra.net second officer. Ran a F.MPIF profit center before that without problems.

09:07:42 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BingoBoingo has changed from 3 to 4.

09:08:03 mircea_popescu: ;;rated moiety

09:08:03 gribble: You rated user moiety on Sat Jun 14 08:57:36 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: Good secretary and logistics mastergirl..

09:08:21 mircea_popescu: ;;rate moiety 1 #b-a ex-secretary.

09:08:22 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user moiety has changed from 2 to 1.

09:08:50 mircea_popescu: ;;rated kreal

09:08:51 gribble: You rated user kreal on Tue Jul 26 01:08:44 2011, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: bought 60btc via pp, smooth..

09:08:55 mircea_popescu: the days lol.

09:09:28 mircea_popescu: ;;rated punkman

09:09:29 gribble: You rated user punkman on Sun Oct 26 16:38:08 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: improved on my spec!.

09:09:51 mircea_popescu: ;;rate punkman 3 Head of Serenissima Notarial Services (SNS).

09:09:52 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user punkman has changed from 2 to 3.

09:10:14 mircea_popescu: ;;rated cazalla

09:10:14 gribble: You rated user cazalla on Fri Oct 10 19:05:29 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: qntra.net chief editor..

09:10:43 mircea_popescu: ;;rate cazalla 3 Master of the scoop. qntra.net editor a la mode.

09:10:45 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user cazalla has changed from 2 to 3.

09:11:03 cazalla: i have scoop of scoops very soon

09:11:15 mircea_popescu: lol

09:12:27 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kolinko

09:12:29 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for kolinko.

09:12:49 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate eightyeight

09:12:51 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for eightyeight.

09:13:11 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate bitdragon

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09:14:12 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Hasbro

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09:15:22 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate comboy

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09:15:40 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate ted_stanley

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09:16:31 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate teward

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09:16:47 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Girlfawkesy

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09:17:27 mircea_popescu: !up wao

09:17:29 ben_vulpes: updating the barony list soon?

09:17:37 mircea_popescu: hey how come you never rated anyone ? didja lose the key or something ?

09:17:47 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes at conference i imagine.

09:18:07 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate b00lcrap

09:18:08 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for b00lcrap.

09:18:22 ben_vulpes: convictions

09:18:26 ben_vulpes: nite!

09:18:41 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate johntraveller

09:18:42 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for johntraveller.

09:19:18 ben_vulpes: wait hang on one last pun

09:19:31 mircea_popescu: ;;rate DanielKrawisz

09:19:31 gribble: (rate <nick> <rating> [<notes>]) -- Enters a rating for <nick> in the amount of <rating>. Use optional <notes> field to enter any notes you have about this user. <nick> must be the user's GPG-registered username, Your previously existing rating, if any, will be overwritten.

09:19:35 mircea_popescu: ;;rated DanielKrawisz

09:19:35 gribble: You rated user DanielKrawisz on Fri Oct 3 00:40:52 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: The intersection of the set of people who spent their entire life in academia and the set of people who've not said infuriatingly stupid things about Bitcoin consists so far of one guy..

09:19:37 ben_vulpes: what do you call an armed hasid

09:19:47 mircea_popescu: heh, i guess that lasted like almost a full month ?

09:19:52 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate DanielKrawisz

09:19:54 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for DanielKrawisz.

09:20:02 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes an armhasid ?

09:20:12 ben_vulpes: danjewrous

09:20:22 ben_vulpes: lady v has one as well

09:20:30 ben_vulpes: what's the hasid's favorite sidearm

09:20:42 mircea_popescu: lol

09:20:51 mircea_popescu: a chickra ?

09:20:59 ben_vulpes: the orthoglock

09:21:02 ben_vulpes: (s)

09:21:14 mircea_popescu: uhm.

09:21:17 mircea_popescu: i dun get it ?

09:21:24 ben_vulpes: orthodox

09:21:27 mircea_popescu: ...

09:21:32 ben_vulpes: orthoglocks

09:21:48 mircea_popescu: maybe the vulpes denhold does not readily understan what these buns are.

09:22:14 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate sexy_saffron

09:22:16 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for sexy_saffron.

09:22:35 ben_vulpes: denhold?

09:22:45 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate bitfoo

09:22:47 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for bitfoo.

09:22:50 mircea_popescu: you know, like a household.

09:22:56 ben_vulpes: oh den mhm

09:23:19 mircea_popescu: ;;rated the20year

09:23:20 gribble: You rated user the20year on Mon Jul 14 14:12:25 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Hasn't run off yet..

09:24:46 mircea_popescu: ;;rate the20year -1 If you believe him you're stuck crediting a large pile of very improbable things, such as that no one out of dozen low income renters is interested in cashing ~50 bux worth of free BTC, or that buyers somehow materialize on Havelock to buy shares at 2x the going price for a single IPO day.

09:24:47 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user the20year has changed from 1 to -1.

09:25:52 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell Michail1 tell me more re this the20year squatter business ?

09:25:52 gribble: The operation succeeded.

09:26:15 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust the20year1

09:26:15 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user the20year1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=the20year1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year1 | Rated since: never

09:26:25 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust ben_vulpes the20year1

09:26:26 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user the20year1: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=the20year1 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year1 | Rated since: never

09:26:31 punkman: the20year gave free BTC to tenants?

09:26:40 mircea_popescu: punkman no, i did.

09:26:45 ben_vulpes: lol wrote a post on the guy's scam and never rated him

09:27:04 ben_vulpes: ;;rated the20year

09:27:04 gribble: You have not yet rated user the20year

09:27:23 mircea_popescu: punkman if you recall, i paid nubbins to make some posters for the guy's tenants, redeemable for .1 each. nobody redeemed. since... i dunno, august ? something.

09:27:47 mircea_popescu: i never heard of unredeemed coupons b4.

09:27:48 punkman: oh guess I missed that, thought the20year bought the posters

09:28:10 mircea_popescu: well if he did nubbins has some 'splainin' to do lol.

09:28:17 punkman: heh

09:28:34 mircea_popescu: if you care i can dig up the discussion in teh logs.

09:28:38 ben_vulpes: ;;rate the20year routinely freezes trading of his assets on havelock to "sell" shares at ~2x market rate. utter mystery, explanations inadequate.

09:28:38 gribble: Error: 'routinely' is not a valid integer.

09:28:45 ben_vulpes: ;;rate the20year -1 routinely freezes trading of his assets on havelock to "sell" shares at ~2x market rate. utter mystery, explanations inadequate.

09:28:47 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user the20year has been recorded.

09:29:12 ben_vulpes: ;;rate mrstickball -1 in cahoots with the20year

09:29:13 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user mrstickball has been recorded.

09:29:26 mircea_popescu: who is that anyway

09:29:28 ben_vulpes: okay now ams bed

09:29:38 ben_vulpes: "twin brother"?

09:29:44 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot mrstickball

09:29:44 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user mrstickball: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=mrstickball | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mrstickball | Rated since: Fri Jul 5 18:09:54 2013

09:30:06 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot the20year

09:30:06 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user the20year: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=the20year | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=the20year | Rated since: Tue Apr 29 11:21:55 2014

09:30:32 mircea_popescu: diametric you know you're leaking ipv6 right ?

09:30:39 cazalla: http://qntra.net/2014/11/the-bitcoin-com-au-story-continues/

09:30:40 assbot: The Bitcoin.com.au Story Continues | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn3JqH )

09:30:54 ben_vulpes: perhaps ratpoison could alter its name to confuse the dosser?

09:31:35 mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4

09:31:35 gribble: You rated user BlueMeanie4 on Tue Aug 26 18:09:56 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Marx sez : never trust a capitalist..

09:32:10 mircea_popescu: ;;rated BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.

09:32:11 gribble: (rated <nick>) -- Get the details about the rating you gave to <nick>, if any.

09:32:14 mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.

09:32:15 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BlueMeanie4 has changed from 1 to 1.

09:32:20 mircea_popescu: ;;rate BlueMeanie4 -1 Meanwhile abandoned id used by meanwhile-abandoned USG-sponsored project to keep tabs on #b-a. Hey, was fun while it lasted.

09:32:21 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user BlueMeanie4 has changed from 1 to -1.

09:32:25 mircea_popescu: i guess that's proper-er.

09:33:26 mircea_popescu: ;;seen bgupta

09:33:26 gribble: bgupta was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 3 hours, 44 minutes, and 44 seconds ago: <bgupta> gobimint making ti really hard to know where to show up and say "I am sparticus!"

09:33:53 mircea_popescu: strangely enough guy hasn't logged into his wot acct since 2011.

09:33:58 mircea_popescu: ;;rated bgupta

09:33:58 gribble: You rated user bgupta on Thu Apr 17 17:47:07 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood..

09:34:37 fluffypony: wow ratings ratings and moar ratings

09:34:59 mircea_popescu: ;;rate bgupta -1 All outgoing ratings from 2011, someone by this username still chatting. Suspicious to my eye.

09:35:01 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user bgupta has changed from 1 to -1.

09:35:04 fluffypony: ;;rated cazalla

09:35:04 gribble: You have not yet rated user cazalla

09:35:12 mircea_popescu: sorry fluffypony but i wanna have the record of it.

09:35:19 fluffypony: ;;rate cazalla ozzie who writes with passion and awesomeness

09:35:19 gribble: Error: 'ozzie' is not a valid integer.

09:35:25 fluffypony: ;;rate cazalla 1 ozzie who writes with passion and awesomeness

09:35:26 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user cazalla has been recorded.

09:36:26 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Jezzz

09:36:27 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for Jezzz.

09:37:03 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate disident

09:37:04 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for disident.

09:37:29 mircea_popescu: ;;rated diana_coman

09:37:30 gribble: You rated user diana_coman on Tue Mar 26 18:56:33 2013, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: None.

09:38:37 mircea_popescu: ;;rate diana_coman 2 Made Eulora Windows compile guide ; main engine behind http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-power-of-the-press-in-english-this-time/#footnote_14_58065

09:38:38 assbot: The power of the press, in English this time. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1HHZrRo )

09:38:38 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user diana_coman has changed from 1 to 2.

09:39:03 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate wangxinxi

09:39:05 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for wangxinxi.

09:39:11 fluffypony: I miss pankkake

09:39:35 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate DreadKnight

09:39:36 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for DreadKnight.

09:39:43 mircea_popescu: i kinda miss him too!

09:39:52 mircea_popescu: !up psychouroboros

09:40:16 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate grubles

09:40:17 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for grubles.

09:40:48 fluffypony: ;;rated rg

09:40:49 gribble: You rated user rg on Sat Aug 9 17:46:06 2014, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: How far the mighty have fallen. Had no problems dealing with him, but he has subsequently reneged on laosn with a number of people..

09:40:57 fluffypony: can't spellink, apparently

09:41:00 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate dgeats

09:41:01 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for dgeats.

09:41:11 fluffypony: ;;rate rg -1 How far the mighty have fallen. Had no problems dealing with him, but he has subsequently reneged on loans with a number of people.

09:41:12 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user rg has changed from -1 to -1.

09:41:22 mircea_popescu: ;;rated rg

09:41:22 gribble: You rated user rg on Wed Jan 16 17:32:04 2013, with a rating of -1, and supplied these additional notes: from what I understand person no longer has sole control of private key..

09:42:06 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Oleanie

09:42:07 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for Oleanie.

09:42:43 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate MarieLynn

09:42:43 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for MarieLynn.

09:43:03 mircea_popescu: ;;rated wywialm

09:43:03 gribble: You rated user wywialm on Tue Apr 15 11:18:52 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: New blood.

09:43:14 mircea_popescu: ;;rate wywialm 2 Polish econ guy.

09:43:15 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user wywialm has changed from 1 to 2.

09:43:55 mircea_popescu: ;;rated Jamesonwa

09:43:56 gribble: You rated user Jamesonwa on Thu Sep 18 21:55:38 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: Voice.

09:44:01 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Jamesonwa

09:44:02 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for Jamesonwa.

09:44:39 mircea_popescu: ;;rated Xiando

09:44:39 gribble: You rated user Xiando on Fri Oct 10 22:57:56 2014, with a rating of 1, and supplied these additional notes: http://pastebin.com/LPm3jBG7.

09:44:47 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate Xiando

09:44:48 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for Xiando.

09:45:31 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate adlai

09:45:32 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for adlai.

09:46:09 mircea_popescu: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=aethero&sign=ANY&type=RECV << lawl o brother.

09:46:11 assbot: Rating Details for User 'aethero' ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI0iBt )

09:46:39 mircea_popescu: full fucking page of -10s, not dented.

09:46:45 mircea_popescu: see kakobrekla ? that's a good total trust!

09:49:19 mircea_popescu: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1crieg/a_tale_of_money_laundering_and_targetted_scamming/ old drama time.

09:49:20 assbot: A tale of money laundering and targetted scamming : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI0DUH )

09:52:01 mircea_popescu: raving lunacy aside, there IS an excellent reason convicted mobsters in breach of the terms of their parole (vleisides, bfl) been supported by vessenes's pseudo-foundation all through.

09:53:36 punkman: https://twitter.com/ErikVoorhees/status/537709222885330945

09:53:39 assbot: Stop calling /kenhess a "paid shill." I think he genuinely thinks poorly of Bitcoin. I wonder if he's willing to debate me on the topic?

09:54:22 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate novusordo

09:54:23 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for novusordo.

09:54:50 mircea_popescu: i on the other hand think he genuinely thinks poorly as a process.

09:55:14 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kanzure

09:55:15 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for kanzure.

09:56:08 cazalla: had to remove bitcoin story, will update soon

09:56:31 mircea_popescu: dun remove stories.

09:56:49 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate herbijudlestoids

09:56:51 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for herbijudlestoids.

09:58:05 punkman: they found satoshi again http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2nicip/found_this_gem_newsgroups_from_2002/

09:58:08 assbot: Found this gem newsgroups from 2002 : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vn9AMP )

09:58:48 mircea_popescu: can they find satoshi in the body of a hot chick so i can get behind the find for once ?

09:59:30 mircea_popescu: punkman lmao wtf bs reddit scam crap is that ?!

09:59:40 mircea_popescu: you'd have to be one of these fucktarded kids to think this stands.

10:00:01 mircea_popescu: 500 votes 200 comments heh... i guess that's that.

10:00:25 fluffypony: lol

10:00:38 mircea_popescu: ;;rated errydayimgenerat

10:00:38 gribble: You rated user errydayimgenerat on Thu Mar 15 14:29:52 2012, with a rating of -3, and supplied these additional notes: owes on loan, dissapeared..

10:00:52 mircea_popescu: ^ me getting scammed.

10:01:09 cazalla: mircea_popescu, i burn a source if i leave it, issue isn't publishing, it's quoting email verbatim, i thought he was ok with but is not, he is going to have his source contact me to clarify things so will be another story

10:01:19 punkman: I got scammed once but then I got my monies back

10:01:42 mircea_popescu: cazalla heh ok but listen, gotta proof these better somehow or something.

10:01:53 mircea_popescu: un-publishin just doesn't work on the internets and is stupid generally.

10:02:18 mircea_popescu: punkman guy was a trannie iirc.

10:02:55 punkman: who?

10:03:20 mircea_popescu: erryday guy

10:03:23 mircea_popescu: ;;unrate kyrio

10:03:24 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for kyrio.

10:03:25 fluffypony: ERRDAY

10:04:20 punkman: mircea_popescu: how many BTC was the loan?

10:04:28 mircea_popescu: 3 iirc ?

10:05:02 mircea_popescu: something like that.

10:05:20 mircea_popescu: holy shit i'm done!

10:05:39 punkman: spring cleaning eh

10:05:56 mircea_popescu: yeah basically.

10:06:20 mircea_popescu: eventually had a one too many case where someone went "hey, how about x", me pulling a blankl and then they going "but you rated em ?"

10:06:29 mircea_popescu: wots gots be maintained.

10:09:37 n6: are you ever going to bring back blog.b-a? rss site or has qntra replaced that?

10:10:15 mircea_popescu: n6 well peterl was working on scoopbot, areplacement. for unclear reasons it's down 90% of the time.

10:10:26 mircea_popescu: i guess someone should pick up and do it.

10:12:03 RagnarDanneskjol: i will... kind of already working on it actually

10:13:17 mircea_popescu: ah ?

10:13:33 mircea_popescu: well cool then!

10:14:10 RagnarDanneskjol: yea - a sort of log review / b-a blog aggregator thing

10:14:17 punkman: RagnarDanneskjol: make a ping endpoint so you don't have to poll the rss

10:14:38 RagnarDanneskjol: oh. ok

10:14:55 punkman: for reference: http://www.weblogs.com/api.html

10:14:57 assbot: Weblogs.com : API ... ( http://bit.ly/1vndaqa )

10:15:05 RagnarDanneskjol: tanks

10:15:10 mircea_popescu: that's not a bad idea, but gotta be able to filter teh wp ddos noob then

10:16:35 cazalla: mircea_popescu> cazalla heh ok but listen, gotta proof these better somehow or something <<< i have the proof, source didn't make clear what he was comfortable with what was published as does not want to be identified

10:17:00 mircea_popescu: cazalla i mean "to proof", like, "to clear" or w/e. you know, making sure it's all ok.

10:17:03 cazalla: or do you mean proof read? yes that needs work too

10:17:03 mircea_popescu: !up Omeo

10:17:49 mircea_popescu: fwiw http://www.fmrib.ox.ac.uk/ is pretty cool.

10:17:50 assbot: Welcome to FMRIB — Functional MRI of the Brain (FMRIB) ... ( http://bit.ly/1HI41Pz )

10:18:40 cazalla: are you saying i need my head checked or something

10:20:31 cazalla: i hated having mri's done, my worst fear is that someone sticks me in a cement sewer tube and buries me in the ground while water runs over my face and the pipe slowly fills with water until i drown.. mri bit similar in that cramped and tubular

10:21:12 mircea_popescu: cazalla lol no, guy from thre joined earlier.

10:21:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 60400 @ 0.00040608 = 24.5272 BTC [+] {2}

10:21:51 mircea_popescu: btw, do you know how that chinese emperess chick killed the other chick the emperor fucked ?

10:23:56 cazalla: aids? i nfi what you reference

10:25:07 RagnarDanneskjol: http://www.amazon.com/Wu-Chinese-Empress-Schemed-Murdered/dp/0750939613

10:25:09 assbot: Amazon.com: Wu: The Chinese Empress Who Schemed, Seduced and Murdered Her Way to Become a Living God (9780750939614): Jonathan Clements: Books ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnfAVP )

10:25:28 mircea_popescu: cazalla Lu Zhi had some chick buried in the outhouse.

10:25:57 cazalla: alive?

10:26:17 mircea_popescu: yeah.

10:26:31 mircea_popescu: so she could take a shit on her.

10:27:40 mircea_popescu: "She then had Concubine Qi's limbs chopped off, blinded her by gouging out her eyes, cut off her tongue and locked her in the latrine, and called her a "Human Swine" (人彘). Several days after, Emperor Hui saw the "Human Swine", and after realising that it who the "Human Swine" was, the emperor was so sick of his mother's cruelty that he virtually relinquished his authority and indulged in carnal pleasures."

10:27:46 cazalla: awful, my fear comes from when i was a kid, we use to ride our skateboards down the inside of the water drains, one day they dig a big trench of new but much smaller ones, i decide to climb in, get stuck like bishop in aliens when he wriggles to the other computer to fly the ship, started screaming get me out get me out, not really stuck, just difficult to wriggle backwards

10:29:50 cazalla: well, they say asians are cruel to animals so no surprise there

10:31:09 mircea_popescu: anyway. wu zetian was more of a badass than a raving psychopath.

10:31:32 mircea_popescu: what was it, "give me an iron whip, an iron hammer and an iron dagger and get lost"

10:32:15 RagnarDanneskjol: yea -she was the only killer empress I could recall

10:33:22 fluffypony: so realistic: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e27_1327440153&t=1

10:33:23 assbot: LiveLeak.com - Bones: Embedding a malware fractal into Bone ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnhuFN )

10:33:35 mircea_popescu: wow is that what i imagine it is ?!

10:34:09 mircea_popescu: such disappoint.

10:35:06 mircea_popescu: anyway, here's what i thought it was : bones are constructed more or less on a micro basis. it is perhaps possible to construct such a bone configuration that if inserted into a human bone it completely destroyes the pattern and creates a never ending always expanding bone mass.

10:35:29 mircea_popescu: similarly to how the "computer always loses" pattern of guessing works for asciilifeform's markov chain simulator,

10:35:37 mircea_popescu: on the theory that bones are built by a markov process of the same type.

10:35:55 mircea_popescu: sort-of like a prion for bones. an insoluble problem made out of shape.

10:35:55 cazalla: xanthyos, we can rebuild your cock!

10:43:37 punkman: another tor mitm story http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2njz9j/blockchaininfo_wallet_robbed/

10:43:39 assbot: Blockchain.info wallet robbed : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnjNJ9 )

10:44:19 cazalla: but andreas worked at blockchain so it's gotta be bulletproof

10:45:28 punkman: and the solution is some kind of bulletproof tor blocking https://github.com/blockchain/Checksum/commit/e478bcc03a081c640dfaac36d3c7a8650d2e0b7b

10:45:29 assbot: Add TOR filter to request blocker · e478bcc · blockchain/Checksum · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1vnkfHo )

10:45:50 mircea_popescu: lolwut

10:46:16 mircea_popescu: these idiots using blockchain wallets through tor are perhaps the exact opposite of security and anonimity.

10:46:39 mircea_popescu: basically, the only way to make sure ANYONE who cares knows about your shit is doing that. it's more public than facebook.

10:46:42 punkman: some other guy lost 250+ BTC supoosedly

10:47:08 mircea_popescu: i pity the fate of btc stuck with such idiots

10:47:30 mircea_popescu: that;s right : i have more empathy for the god damned coins than for the derps involved.

12:33:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00041472 = 9.5386 BTC [+]

12:46:02 nubbins`: dat hostile ddos bot

12:46:21 nubbins`: ok so my laptop lost power abruptly and i think my bitcoind VM is hosed

12:46:34 nubbins`: "errors" : "WARNING: Displayed transactions may not be correct! You may need to upgrade, or other nodes may need to upgrade."

12:47:47 punkman: corrupted database?

12:48:35 nubbins`: probably. debug.log is all like:

12:48:37 nubbins`: ERROR: ConnectInputs() : 190b9373da mapTransactions prev not found 1572ba70fe

12:48:37 nubbins`: ERROR: AcceptToMemoryPool() : ConnectInputs failed 190b9373da

12:48:59 nubbins`: try, try again, i guess.

12:49:04 punkman: delete the latest blocks

12:49:28 nubbins`: hm, just delele latest blk000*.dat, err..?

12:49:41 punkman: yeah maybe blkindex too

12:51:01 danielpbarron: you didn't keep a backup?

12:51:42 nubbins`: "why would i keep a backup of a partially-downloaded blockchain?", he asked to himself, before muttering that it was probably to prevent things like this from happening

12:51:44 danielpbarron: that's another part of my bitcoind experience worth mentioning: make backups frequently

12:51:57 nubbins`: i actually intended to clone the VM when i got close to block 240k

12:52:06 nubbins`: so i could more-or-less easily check the wedge point

12:52:15 punkman: running the pathced 0.5 thing?

12:52:16 nubbins`: made it to 218k :/

12:52:20 danielpbarron: i had it get corrupted once after a week of running.. never again

12:52:22 nubbins`: not even patched, just stock 0.5.3

12:52:51 nubbins`: anyway looks like that did it punkman, it's checkin em pretty quickly now

12:53:14 nubbins`: i guess now that i've got a cloak, maybe i'll find out if these random power-downs are due to bad RAM or a 0-day

12:54:00 punkman: smooth seas don't make good sailors

12:56:26 nubbins`: mircea_popescu:well if he did nubbins has some 'splainin' to do lol. <<< nope, in fact, i am also mildly perturbed by the fact that i mailed over $4,000 of goods to the guy and we didn't even get a couple measly pictures out of it

12:56:35 nubbins`: remember when he was all "most of our tenants don't have computers"

12:56:37 nubbins`: o.O

12:57:07 nubbins`: a better idea would have been maybe to give 'em to people of influence, but hindsight

12:57:41 punkman: how did the redeeming for 0.1 work btw?

12:58:53 nubbins`: they take a picture of themselves w/ the poster, show it to us

12:59:01 nubbins`: mp gives them money

12:59:26 nubbins`: i think the intention was for a bunch of poor nobodies from ohio to hang out here

13:00:18 punkman: yeah it does sound implausible that nobody has claimed one of those yet

13:00:43 nubbins`: well he got 'em and was all like "can i give one to each of my employees? my kids? etc etc?"

13:04:34 nubbins`: thenewdeal was on my ass so much about giving him a rating for buying a couple posters

13:04:51 nubbins`: imagine, rating someone because they bought an item from you :0

13:06:35 nubbins`: here we go

13:06:36 nubbins`: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=18-09-2014#833936

13:06:36 assbot: Logged on 18-09-2014 17:37:06; The20YearIRCloud: mircea_popescu: I'm going to write up a letter/note and give a poster & instructions to each one of my tenants, then offer a discount if they use BTC to pay for their rent( even if it's a fraction of the rent). But that will only account for 15 of the 50 posters, so I was gonna run a few contests on our FB page (If that's ok with you?) for the remainder

13:07:01 nubbins`: triple facepalm

13:33:47 mircea_popescu: nubbins` due diligence ain't free eh.

13:34:42 mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> anyway looks like that did it punkman, it's checkin em pretty quickly now << yeah needed a reindex.

13:35:06 mircea_popescu: <nubbins`> i guess now that i've got a cloak, maybe i'll find out if these random power-downs are due to bad RAM or a 0-day << 99% they're due to transients from your power source.

13:46:52 mircea_popescu: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/93/King's_Bounty_girls_at_Igromir_2012.jpg << this has got to be the saddest promotion effort.

13:47:10 mircea_popescu: srsly, these are booth babes nao ? and that cheap top sells video games ?

13:49:18 nubbins`: i did get a new battery recently

13:49:27 nubbins`: off-brand, natch

14:02:04 mircea_popescu: lol pete was an apple boi!

14:14:57 danielpbarron: ;;later tell BingoBoingo In a piece appearing on ZDnet today Ken Hess wrote a piece http://qntra.net/2014/11/ken-hess-bitcoin-illegal-tom-coburn-maybe-for-congress/ << he wrote a piece in a piece so I can read it while I read it?

14:14:58 assbot: Ken Hess: Bitcoin Illegal, Tom Coburn: Maybe for Congress? | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FtfA9n )

14:14:58 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:20:28 mircea_popescu: kik

14:31:00 adlai: http://www.btcalpha.com/bitbet/ <- nice way to review all the insider info I don't have

14:31:01 assbot: BitBet Overview - Btc Alpha ... ( http://bit.ly/1zZ9Djd )

14:31:58 adlai: and to whom it may concern... please consider using some website toolkit thingy that'd let me link straight to a specific heading

14:34:56 adlai: gotcha! mike_c ^

15:05:39 mike_c: noted.

15:33:05 jurov: http://what-if.xkcd.com/111/ :)

15:33:05 assbot: All the Money ... ( http://bit.ly/15DuejD )

15:34:21 mircea_popescu: http://www.forbes.com/sites/timworstall/2014/11/16/fun-number-apple-is-now-worth-more-than-the-entire-russian-stock-market/

15:34:21 assbot: Fun Number: Apple Is Now Worth More Than The Entire Russian Stock Market - Forbes ... ( http://bit.ly/15DusHv )

15:35:16 mircea_popescu: in forbes this month : find out why and wherefore the most overvalued company of all time is "not at all" overvalued, because reasons unstated ; come see how their bezzle is not nearly as good as our bezzle, a fact directly proven by the happenstance that what our numbers show should be possible is directly and observably not possible

15:36:04 mircea_popescu: no wonder everyone in the us needs a college degree. there's no way native intelligence could deal with a tenth of the cognitive dissonance dished out on a daily basis.

15:36:08 BingoBoingo: danielpbarron: Fx'd nao

15:36:11 mircea_popescu: !up younas

15:39:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22850 @ 0.00040381 = 9.2271 BTC [-]

15:43:16 mircea_popescu: http://zoltanlnagy.com/

15:43:19 assbot: Zoltan L. Nagy - Actor. Voiceover. Model. ... ( http://bit.ly/15DwCH5 )

15:43:23 mircea_popescu: " After a successful 25 year career in real estate and finance, Zoltan L Nagy has emerged as a versatile and reliable talent landing jobs in commercials, film, TV shows, print ads, industrials, radio & TV hosting and even some small movie roles."

15:43:28 mircea_popescu: o.O

15:43:36 adlai: kakobrekla: "Last block: 10 hours 38 minutes ago (331789)"

15:45:13 kakobrekla: >Last block: just now (331844)

15:48:55 *: adlai loves when technology advances sufficiently

15:50:49 kakobrekla: like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SXBFkAsJ1Y

15:50:50 assbot: Sateliti - Facebook - (Official video 2014) - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/15DxWK7 )

15:55:56 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/snow-cold-slow-third-night-of-protests-across-st-louis/article_a2cfa230-b200-5ecb-89f0-483a444bdc5e.html

15:55:58 assbot: Snow, cold slow third night of protests across St. Louis : News ... ( http://bit.ly/15DyVKg )

15:56:05 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/lifestyles/faith-and-values/federal-officials-investigating-fire-at-church-connected-to-michael-brown/article_e4b41d11-a02d-5956-b396-b67b36302410.html

15:56:06 assbot: Federal officials investigating fire at church connected to Michael Brown family : Lifestyles ... ( http://bit.ly/15DyWOl )

15:58:17 nubbins`: found a copy of 3d studio max r2 (w/ orange parallel port dongle!)

15:58:19 decimation: mircea_popescu: but the business model of stealing ideas from engelbart to built trinkets for those rich in bezzlars is a good one

15:59:08 mircea_popescu: decimation but the externality there is the bezzlars.

15:59:17 decimation: heh yeah

15:59:28 decimation: note that apple has no problem punishing customers

15:59:38 nubbins`: ^

15:59:47 mircea_popescu: basically this is like saying "for as long as the usg prints money , this company can capture about 1.2-1.5% of it"

16:00:01 mircea_popescu: great fucking deal, well done. and a calender left out in the rain can catch some rainwater.

16:00:27 mircea_popescu: if, of course, it rains.

16:00:40 decimation: well if the rain stops everybody is fucked

16:00:58 mircea_popescu: which is exactly why you can't "sell apple and buy all russian paper + 1 ipad for each russian citizen"

16:01:24 mircea_popescu: nobody in his right mind would do this deal, and for that matter who the fuck wants the ipads.

16:02:05 decimation: conde nast would want to push ideas into peoples heads via ipads

16:03:45 decimation: http://usonianhistory.wordpress.com/

16:03:47 assbot: E Pluribus Usoniam | American history in new terms ... ( http://bit.ly/15DAkQS )

16:04:08 BingoBoingo: decimation: I thought Conde Nast was more concerned about stopping the bleeding

16:04:12 mircea_popescu: anyway, the lulziest part was all the inept tardstalk-level shilling, "o noes apple is not overvalued"

16:04:15 mircea_popescu: im sure it isn't. lawl.

16:05:21 decimation: wait, are you using tardstalk to refer to the bitcoin forum or the wall street newspapers

16:06:01 mircea_popescu: yes.

16:06:11 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0FRFKNG.txt )

16:06:11 BingoBoingo: !b 2

16:06:11 mircea_popescu: it's a thing, amateur dude dabbling in finance.

16:06:41 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/alleged-plot-included-bombing-gateway-arch-killing-st-louis-county/article_69ddd938-e763-55c1-9c1c-3306725f941e.html

16:06:43 assbot: Alleged plot included bombing Gateway Arch, killing St. Louis County prosecutor : News ... ( http://bit.ly/15DAWGf )

16:07:09 BingoBoingo: ^ FBI once again sold them what they thought was a bomb

16:07:30 BingoBoingo: "The men wanted to acquire two more bombs, the sources said, but could not afford to do it until one suspect?s girlfriend?s Electronic Benefit Transfer card was replenished."

16:09:06 decimation: BingoBoingo: apparently usg isn't paying off the masses in bezzlars sufficiently

16:09:18 BingoBoingo: Apparently not.

16:09:20 mircea_popescu: lol

16:10:10 mircea_popescu: a decade ago, unscrupled salesmen sold some mentally slow old people 12 organs and 50 year's supply of toilet paper.

16:10:23 mircea_popescu: these days, unscrupled "fbi agents" sell mentally slow people "terrorism".

16:10:29 mircea_popescu: whatever pays the rent, i guess ?

16:10:54 decimation: well, I doubt being an fbi agent pays much rent honestly

16:11:10 mircea_popescu: how fortunate i'm not the judge this shit ends up in front of

16:11:29 mircea_popescu: first case in three centuries where the state ends up prosecuted for bringing a case.

16:11:34 decimation: http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.com/fbi-agent-salary.html

16:11:35 assbot: FBI Agent Salary | FBI Pay ... ( http://bit.ly/1FvfdwN )

16:12:05 decimation: join fbi - you could make $90k!

16:12:11 mircea_popescu: dude look! he could afford to buy like 1-2k prime asados!

16:12:21 mircea_popescu: o but wait... they don't exist where he lives.

16:12:38 mircea_popescu: hm. well... better save up buy an ipad then, turn it in for his share of the russian stock market later,

16:12:45 mircea_popescu: at the great conversion in the sky.

16:12:46 decimation: heh

16:13:24 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell cazalla http://qntra.net/2014/11/bitcoin-com-au-lost-by-mistake/#comment-2465

16:13:24 assbot: Bitcoin.com.au Lost By Mistake | Qntra.net ... ( http://bit.ly/1FvfOOY )

16:13:24 gribble: The operation succeeded.

16:14:25 mircea_popescu: http://www.criminaljusticeschoolinfo.com/salary-for-jobs-in-homeland-security.html kinda lulzy

16:14:25 assbot: Salary for Jobs in Homeland Security & DHS Job Outlook ... ( http://bit.ly/15DCuQq )

16:15:04 decimation: so you gotta wonder what they think in wall st. when some $90k a year 'bigshot' walks in and presumes to tell them how to conduct business

16:15:16 mircea_popescu: "Cyber Security Specialist" << note how it's all round numbers ?

16:15:56 mod6: <+mircea_popescu> that;s right : i have more empathy for the god damned coins than for the derps involved. << this.

16:16:06 mircea_popescu: "Godaddy sucks and it is a nightmare to register and transfer names using them." << doh.

16:16:20 decimation: anyone who has more than 18 mo. experience as a 'cyber security specialist' and has skills can easily clear over $100k

16:17:17 mircea_popescu: more than a doctor ?

16:17:25 mircea_popescu: poor md suckers, putting in 7 years

16:17:40 mircea_popescu: if only they weren't so retarded, and could learn the 18 month scriptkiddie thang.

16:17:59 decimation: mds in the us are basically insurance bureaucrats

16:18:46 mircea_popescu: wait, and hs "specialists" are james bond ?

16:21:26 decimation: they would like to think so. also bureaucrats

16:22:53 asciilifeform: nubbins`: 3d studio max r2 << 3d studio for msdos, last release - was the last really good proggy of that kind. i still use it now and again.

16:23:29 nubbins`: i tried picking up blender a few years ago but realized i just don't have the patience

16:23:47 nubbins`: i have a FOAF who's really into 3d modelling, did some work on the hive queen in ender's game

16:23:59 asciilifeform: 100k << who the fuck cares about this number. the only number worth caring about: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-11-2014#924743

16:23:59 assbot: Logged on 16-11-2014 03:25:52; assbot: Logged on 13-10-2014 01:35:27; asciilifeform: rephrase, if you like, as 'unit of discretionary income per unit of lost free time.'

16:24:39 nubbins`: hopefully better than a 1:1 ratio

16:25:51 decimation: asciilifeform: what kind of salary do you think a decent skript kiddie could fetch in your area?

16:27:03 jurov: http://iamsteve.in/2014/11/27/facebooks-real-name-policy-is-back/ faceboox doxing

16:27:04 assbot: Facebook’s Real Name Policy is Back | iamsteve.in – angry.scot ... ( http://bit.ly/15DEIPM )

16:27:20 asciilifeform: decimation: how on earth would i know? elect him president, 400k usd.

16:27:46 decimation: heh

16:28:11 mircea_popescu: ;;ud foaf

16:28:12 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FOAF | FOAF. Friend Of A Friend The way all good stories start ;). I heard from a FOAF that there's these twins named Lemonjello and Orangejello. Yeah, this pharmacist ...

16:29:12 adlai: ;;ud swim

16:29:13 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=swim | S.W.I.M.. Acronym meaning: Someone Who Isn't Me But general use indicates that it is indeed the same person. S.W.I.M. decided to walk his dog today.

16:31:39 decimation: mircea_popescu: do you use opera?

16:33:00 nubbins`: for context, there's probably a thousand posts on drug forums that go something like "SWIM took a large dose of 25I-NBOMe and is feeling severe heart palpitations, and wonders if they should call 911"

16:33:21 nubbins`: or "a FOAF has been making honey oil and doesn't know why it's green instead of brown"

16:33:35 nubbins`: my favourites were always "i had a dream the other night..."

16:33:59 decimation: nubbins`: hey I have a question - is there somewhere in north america where one can order custom calendars?

16:34:31 decimation: as in, I supply the pdf or whatever and they send the printed result

16:35:14 decimation: all of the sites I have found seem to want you to 'build the calendar with their web 2.0 warez!'

16:35:23 nubbins`: "i had a dream last night where i made a solution of 1.0 g 5-benzyloxyindole in 20 mL Et2O, cooled it to 0 °C, vigorously stirred it, and treated it with 0.6 g oxalyl chloride in 10 mL Et2O, added dropwise, over the course of 0.5 h. my dream self wondered if a yellowish precipitate was normal. any thoughts?"

16:35:31 nubbins`: decimation almost assuredly.

16:35:48 nubbins`: try Staples, or your locally-owned independent copy shop

16:36:11 decimation: yeah that's a good idea, I guess a local printer would be a good start

16:36:29 nubbins`: it's just a stack of digital prints with two staples

16:37:08 decimation: well, yeah or the ring binding

16:37:27 nubbins`: oh, those too, yeah. not so common, but most copy shops can ring-bind as well

16:37:32 nubbins`: coil-bind, i guess

16:58:53 mats_cd03: ;;ticker

16:58:54 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 369.54, Best ask: 369.75, Bid-ask spread: 0.21000, Last trade: 369.75, 24 hour volume: 8754.46591541, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 369.344469208

17:41:08 kakobrekla: loot the container in far cry 4 - get 'Cryptocurrency Drive'

17:42:50 PinkPosixPXE: ;;later tell ben_vulpes Hey there, prune_manifest.sh done for you and mod6 to review. Feel free to use/modify as needed, or let me know if you want me to make any changes. (if you decide to use it). Dpaste is not preserving my paste, so here's a gist: https://gist.github.com/thelinuxgirl/738cda58f5c85946b1a5

17:42:51 assbot: Prune differences between file manifests in bitcoin src dirs. Edit the "bitcoin" and "chicken" paths to suit your environment. ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5ye84 )

17:42:51 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:43:28 PinkPosixPXE: ok turkey cleaning time, bbiab! just msg me or leave me a tell if you have any questions, or need anything.

17:47:23 Anduck: is the deeds site up?

17:49:28 jurov: down

17:54:00 mircea_popescu: !up indiancandy1

17:54:10 indiancandy1: babe

17:54:15 indiancandy1: why i keep gettin kicked out

17:54:16 kakobrekla: get cloaked

17:54:17 indiancandy1: :(

17:54:30 indiancandy1: how

17:54:44 kakobrekla: read the assbot message

17:55:11 indiancandy1: nthin about cloak

17:55:16 *: kakobrekla has been trying to warn people about lack or misuse of cloaks for the last day

17:55:21 kakobrekla: got about 10 or so fixed

17:55:38 indiancandy1: huh

17:55:39 Anduck: misuse = ?

17:55:41 indiancandy1: im so confused

17:55:44 indiancandy1: what you on about

17:56:06 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell michail1 you left a rating on http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=the20year&sign=ANY&type=RECV

17:56:07 assbot: Rating Details for User 'the20year' ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5AfBg )

17:56:07 gribble: The operation succeeded.

17:56:07 Anduck: kakobrekla: what's there to be warned about not being cloaked?

17:56:41 mircea_popescu: indiancandy1 you go in #freenode ask for a cloak, then you login first then join chan

17:56:51 kakobrekla: go ahead, join uncloaked. just wait i sec so i bring down ratpoison

17:56:59 kakobrekla: 1 sec

17:57:24 mircea_popescu: !up Ginux

17:57:30 indiancandy1: sounds like hard wok

17:57:37 indiancandy1: can you do it for me

17:57:43 mircea_popescu: lol

17:57:49 diametric: i haven't been able to locate any freenode staff today or yesterday.

17:57:53 mircea_popescu: anyway. what've you been busy with ?

17:57:58 Anduck: kakobrekla: so..?

17:57:59 indiancandy1: shit internet

17:58:01 indiancandy1: thats what

17:58:05 indiancandy1: im in india

17:58:06 mircea_popescu: heh

17:58:08 indiancandy1: gettin fucking depressed

17:58:15 diametric: i'm actually quite curious how the ddos is taking place, my server show absolutely no abnormal traffic.

17:58:32 *: kakobrekla is taking most of the hit

17:59:00 Anduck: kakobrekla: my host is anduck.net, so what do you do with this info?

17:59:03 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla publish logs will you ?

17:59:10 diametric: i'm even ssh'd into my server when i get booted off freenode

17:59:12 Anduck: ip

17:59:20 indiancandy1: yea it keeps telling me

17:59:24 indiancandy1: it doesnt recognize me

17:59:25 indiancandy1: :(

17:59:57 kakobrekla: Anduck tell that to the ddoser - not me.

18:00:06 Anduck: i don't see why people should be pushed to use cloak or how to mis-use it. you can't really misuse it if you use sasl

18:00:15 Anduck: well, you've been ddossed because you werent cloaked?

18:00:29 kakobrekla: idk are you playin or fuckin retarded?

18:00:41 Anduck: i am trying to find out the same about you, it is...

18:01:09 mircea_popescu: !down Anduck

18:01:15 Anduck: normally one doesn't get dossed =)

18:01:18 mircea_popescu: srsly, fucktard keeps on talking.

18:01:27 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust assbot anduck

18:01:27 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Anduck!~anduck@unaffiliated/anduck. Trust relationship from user assbot to user anduck: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 5 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=anduck | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=anduck | Rated since: Tue May 8 11:28:43 2012

18:01:33 mircea_popescu: blergh.

18:02:37 kakobrekla: here, i cleared the way for you.

18:02:42 mircea_popescu: ;;rate Anduck -1 random idiot, keeps waking up talking.

18:02:43 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user Anduck has been recorded.

18:02:51 kakobrekla: join cloakless, Anduck .

18:03:20 indiancandy1: grrr

18:03:25 indiancandy1: so anyways

18:03:31 danielpbarron: ;;rated Anduck

18:03:31 gribble: You rated user Anduck on Thu Aug 14 13:39:36 2014, with a rating of -2, and supplied these additional notes: this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/08/14#l1408037518 and this http://bitcoinstats.com/irc/bitcoin-otc/logs/2014/07/23#l1406132751.

18:03:31 indiancandy1: what are yoou doing

18:04:03 kakobrekla: well Anduck ?

18:04:20 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron heh.

18:04:23 mircea_popescu: lot of shady things eh ?

18:05:24 Anduck: kakobrekla: yes?

18:05:37 indiancandy1: please

18:05:39 kakobrekla: do you want the experience or not?

18:05:41 indiancandy1: include me

18:05:44 indiancandy1: inthe conv

18:05:44 Anduck: kakobrekla: ohh, sec

18:05:44 indiancandy1: lol

18:05:47 indiancandy1: im so bored

18:05:52 mircea_popescu: say something interesting then!

18:06:06 indiancandy1: duno

18:06:11 indiancandy1: start conv with me

18:06:31 indiancandy1: plz

18:06:38 diametric: sigh.. the staff keep ignoring my request for an unaffiliated.

18:06:51 kakobrekla: hrm

18:07:12 mircea_popescu: diametric it usually takes a while.

18:07:32 diametric: i'm still intrigued with how it's happening.

18:07:35 Anduck: kakobrekla: by 'experience' you mean you would try dossing me?

18:07:44 mircea_popescu: guy wrote some buggy script, i guess ?

18:07:53 kakobrekla: Anduck 'me' ?

18:08:01 kakobrekla: and 'try' ?

18:08:05 mircea_popescu: anyway, for #b-a irc, an idea would be to have moderation for joins/parts.

18:08:11 Anduck: just answer and dont be smartass

18:08:12 Anduck: ._.

18:08:28 Anduck: correct me if i'm wrong but you dont have be an asshat

18:08:31 kakobrekla: but i am smart and ass.

18:08:49 diametric: i'm connected to my bounce server when the "ddos" happens, but i don't see any unusual packets coming into it, nor do is my connection to my server from my house impacted in anyway, but i do get booted off freenode.

18:09:20 Anduck: so, the 'experience' would be you trying to dos me?

18:09:21 mircea_popescu: diametric maybe you're not logging what needs to be logging ?

18:09:24 diametric: i mean the peak throughput i've had sustained for any period of time has been 100k/s

18:09:25 mircea_popescu: could be synflood or w/e.

18:09:27 kakobrekla: Anduck no.

18:09:33 diametric: mircea_popescu: possibly

18:09:46 diametric: but i'd still see tons of packets on the interface coming in

18:09:50 kakobrekla: Anduck why on earth would _I_ ddos ?

18:10:06 mircea_popescu: diametric guy's a kid in a basement. if it's going to be something it's going to be some sort of very cheap, high leverage, poor control something. syn, wordpress pignbacks, stuff like that.

18:10:10 mircea_popescu: he's not about to fill anyone's pipe.

18:10:15 Anduck: kakobrekla: indeed. why would someone dos some random people at irc

18:10:23 kakobrekla: and yet it happens!

18:10:42 diametric: mircea_popescu: yeah i figured, but the interesting part to me is that it only interrupts my connection to freenode. nothing else.

18:10:57 diametric: and thats what makes it suspicious to me

18:10:57 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla mebbe if you ignore it it goes away, and the room average iq jumps a coupla points.

18:11:58 kakobrekla: diametric i can saturate a gbps line with it.

18:12:20 mircea_popescu: diametric you logging port 8001 ?

18:13:15 Anduck: and mircea_popescu ofc you do shady things, you know what i mean.

18:13:21 Anduck: :)

18:13:25 diametric: I'm not looking at any particular ports, i'm just looking at the raw interface stats

18:13:54 Anduck: you may call it 'doing business' to say FAQ is ToS etc.

18:13:59 Anduck: most poeple call it shady shit

18:14:03 diametric: kakobrekla: oh yeah. i worked for the isp that hosted riaa's website when napster was shutdown, i'm all too familiar with ddosing =)

18:14:19 kakobrekla: aha

18:14:20 diametric: we actually fired riaa as a customer

18:14:28 kakobrekla: heh

18:14:40 kakobrekla: too much trouble?

18:14:43 Anduck: obviouslyt

18:14:53 indiancandy1: grrrrrrrrrr

18:14:53 Anduck: ddossing is pita when it's well done

18:14:55 kakobrekla: !up Diablo-D3

18:15:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 68000 @ 0.00039442 = 26.8206 BTC [-] {4}

18:15:08 *: Diablo-D3 runs a host that deals with ddos mitgation

18:15:10 Diablo-D3: ddos is such lol.

18:15:22 Anduck: Diablo-D3: btw are you a regular in this channel?

18:15:39 diametric: hmm i'm curious.

18:15:47 indiancandy1: hisa fake

18:15:49 indiancandy1: lol

18:15:52 mircea_popescu: mebbe it doesn't have ipv6 ? lol

18:15:56 indiancandy1: im goin no 1 likes me

18:15:59 indiancandy1: i hate u

18:15:59 mircea_popescu: try a 4 quad address.

18:16:03 mircea_popescu: later indiancandy1

18:16:08 indiancandy1: kisss

18:16:17 Diablo-D3: Anduck: yes.

18:16:23 Anduck: damn

18:16:30 Diablo-D3: except I refuse to go through this whole identify to assbot shit

18:16:33 Diablo-D3: because its bullshit

18:16:50 kakobrekla: https://exelion.net < this is diablo?

18:16:51 assbot: Exelion | Dedicated Server Hosting ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5DpFf )

18:16:54 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: yes.

18:16:58 diametric: mircea_popescu: thats what i thought but i have been getting booted off freenode an abnormal amount of times. maybe it's shitty ipv6 freenode servers and entirely coincidental.

18:16:59 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: the website sucks, we alllll know.

18:17:05 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: never outsource website design.

18:17:22 diametric: i'll still get a cloak anyway because why not

18:17:31 kakobrekla: so what can you take?

18:17:42 mircea_popescu: this is going to be lulzy.

18:18:20 Diablo-D3: kakobrekla: 100gbit, though no one has been stupid enough to try yet

18:18:52 kakobrekla: you can do 100gbit traffic or 100gbit mitigation?

18:18:59 Diablo-D3: mitigation

18:19:19 kakobrekla: with what

18:19:23 Diablo-D3: a custom system

18:19:31 kakobrekla: cans and strings?

18:19:35 diametric: lol

18:19:54 Diablo-D3: cans, strings, and not as many DSPs as I had hoped.

18:20:22 kakobrekla: always on thing?

18:20:42 Diablo-D3: yeah

18:21:18 kakobrekla: bring me up a test instance for a couple of days?

18:21:41 Diablo-D3: Honestly, I need to setup a lightning rod box.

18:21:59 Diablo-D3: somewhere in the realm of too lazy, though.

18:22:07 kakobrekla: !down Diablo-D3

18:22:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AMHASH1] 3792 @ 0.00124991 = 4.7397 BTC [+] {7}

18:22:18 Anduck: lol

18:22:41 Anduck: is this !up !down thing actually useful or is it just a way to troll / annoy people?

18:22:52 Anduck: which one is weighted more

18:24:12 mircea_popescu: typical.

18:24:36 mircea_popescu: anyway : another job on the job board - who wants to take https://github.com/mikexstudios/qwebirc and run it on a box somewhere, except NOT leaking out the IP of the user ?

18:24:38 assbot: mikexstudios/qwebirc · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1y5EKfe )

18:25:26 Anduck: mircea_popescu: i could test it =)

18:25:59 kakobrekla: sounds like a job for Diablo-D3

18:26:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47900 @ 0.00038809 = 18.5895 BTC [-] {2}

18:27:32 punkman: mircea_popescu: why this mikex version?

18:27:36 jurov: is it paid?

18:28:04 mircea_popescu: punkman random one i happened ot pick.

18:29:06 jurov: also, how would it prevent getting banned?

18:30:33 jurov: i had similar service, ended up k-lined

18:30:42 jurov: and freenode staff said if I publish unique whois per user it may help

18:31:10 jurov: however, the users were ephemeral, so i just blocked irc altogether

18:31:13 mircea_popescu: worth a shot.

18:31:14 kakobrekla: wait doesnt kiwi have a solution to this?

18:31:20 mircea_popescu: i've been looking for reasons to ditch freenode for like a year.

18:32:31 punkman: many networks auto-cloak everyone

18:32:46 mircea_popescu: yeah. sane ones, that weren't made in 1995.

18:33:10 diametric: i actually enjoyed the wild west nature of efnet back in the 90s.

18:33:37 jurov: kiwiirc publishes "gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.84.X.Y.Z

18:37:25 Anduck: here we go.

18:37:32 Anduck: Anducktesting: = qwebirc.anduck.net

18:39:34 mircea_popescu: jesus sitting in the safe confines of over here one readily forgets just how fucktarded teh outside world is.

18:39:38 mircea_popescu: anyway, bbl.

18:39:51 Anduck: maybe it's just you.

18:39:52 Anduck: lol

18:40:28 diametric: huzzah i have been cloaked.

18:40:36 diametric: also theres a guy with magical powers in #freenode that can reverse hashes.

18:40:46 Anduck: hashes like?

18:40:59 Anduck: if you hex-encode ip, it's... encoded

18:41:13 diametric: well, mp proposed hashing webchat ips as a solution to prevent abuse.

18:41:21 diametric: but someone pointed out that all it would take is someone to reverse the hash.

18:41:31 Anduck: you can'

18:41:31 diametric: i lol'd hard.

18:41:45 Anduck: meh, enter too close

18:42:01 jurov: only if you hash it with secret salt

18:42:15 Anduck: !up Anducktesting

18:42:26 jurov: sha256(ip) alone can be bruteforced easily

18:42:42 diametric: of course

18:42:59 jurov: is freenode prone to accept such solution?

18:43:27 punkman: I remember seeing mibbit or whatever with such a solution

18:43:29 jurov: that ips are obfuscated, but stable

18:43:40 punkman: been a while though, maybe freenode changed policy?

18:44:59 Anduck: mircea_popescu: you trying to silence me here :x :)

18:45:14 Anduck: i love your negrating and !down

18:47:26 jurov: http://decal.sdf.org/spotfedsonline/Uncloaking-IP-Addresses-on-IRC.pdf << may be interesting but incredibly hideous design

18:49:12 ben_vulpes: ;;ping

18:49:12 gribble: pong

18:50:07 fluffypony: eugh, "reverse" the hash

18:50:13 fluffypony: someone shoot that person for being a moron

18:51:30 Anduck: well, damn

18:51:44 Anduck: if you hash the ip, it's trivial to get the ip. unless salt is used

18:52:17 fluffypony: it's trivial to brute-force or use rainbow tables

18:52:23 fluffypony: but that's not "reversing" it

18:53:05 Anduck: well, duh

18:53:32 fluffypony: besides, this is a trivial problem - all IRC servers in a network need to be in-sync (services etc.), so just sync up a table of IP -> random string key-value pairs

18:54:59 jurov: syncing 3e9 strings is trivial problem?

18:55:43 fluffypony: jurov: no more complex than keeping nickserv+chanserv+memoserv+operserv in sync

18:55:54 fluffypony: besides, this is why DHTs exist

18:57:05 jurov: oh you mean that for freenode replacement?

18:57:08 kakobrekla: everybodys cloaking is broked

18:57:12 kakobrekla: :\

18:58:09 jurov: i never had any

18:58:09 kakobrekla: (perhaps even mine, havent tested it)

18:58:17 jurov: fortunately

19:04:00 fluffypony: jurov: yeah I meant on the IRC network level

19:12:01 kakobrekla: this was kinda funny from earlier; http://dpaste.com/26CTWKT.txt

19:12:02 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1xMvFCX )

19:12:55 *: kakobrekla saved a soul from endless loop

19:21:15 mod6: ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE Thanks for coming up with that in short-order! I took a look, check PM.

19:21:15 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:50:38 ben_vulpes: phew

19:50:52 ben_vulpes: !up Squidward

19:50:57 ben_vulpes: Squidward: get a cloak

19:51:30 Squidward: how?

19:51:43 ben_vulpes: join #freenode, ask for one

20:06:58 ben_vulpes: amusingly, it's faster and more robust to tail ~/.bitcoin/debug.log than it is to actually query getblockcount on 0.5.3

20:07:00 ben_vulpes: wd boys

20:07:31 ben_vulpes: tail -n 20 ~/.bitcoin/debug.log | grep height

20:08:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10750 @ 0.0003862 = 4.1517 BTC [-]

20:17:24 Anduck: ben_vulpes: guess which one is more accurate in case problems show up

20:17:44 ben_vulpes: Anduck: debug.log?

20:17:53 Anduck: nope. :)

20:18:21 ben_vulpes: well grepping the debug log is going to show other things i suppose

20:19:47 ben_vulpes: i'd hope that getblockcount would return the height of the verified chain...

20:19:53 adlai: where'd the -assets go!?

20:19:58 Anduck: hell

20:20:09 adlai: oh derp, i was scrolled up

20:20:20 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust assbot adlai

20:20:20 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask adlai!~Adlai@gateway/tor-sasl/adlai. Trust relationship from user assbot to user adlai: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=adlai | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=adlai | Rated since: Sat Oct 11 10:15:58 2014

20:20:28 adlai: ben_vulpes: thru you

20:20:34 ben_vulpes: myeah i guess

20:20:38 *: adlai is not sane btw

20:20:50 *: ben_vulpes raises one...single...eyebrow

20:20:59 ben_vulpes: you're a common lisp programmer. sanity would be too much to ask.

20:22:18 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

20:22:19 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.93, Best ask: 368.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.06000, Last trade: 368.99, 24 hour volume: 7610.99576218, 24 hour low: 363.38, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 369.972949579

20:25:41 nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/c8YFF9F.jpg

20:25:42 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1uZqDWB )

20:26:01 nubbins`: <+ben_vulpes> amusingly, it's faster and more robust to tail ~/.bitcoin/debug.log than it is to actually query getblockcount on 0.5.3 <<< +1

20:39:13 kakobrekla: for newbs http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets/cloak

20:39:14 assbot: first_steps_in_bitcoin-assets:cloak [bitcoin assets wiki] ... ( http://bit.ly/1uZrRB1 )

20:39:16 kakobrekla: pls to check

21:00:28 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell PinkPosixPXE thanks you're a gem

21:00:29 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:04:01 adlai: "I would like to claim as my own… the theory of comparative superpower collapse" - dmitri orlov << I get that he's perceptive about the present, but has he not read any history from more than 100 years ago!?

21:07:44 ben_vulpes: !up yhwh_

21:10:21 adlai: shouldn't yhwh always be voiced?

21:12:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 49450 @ 0.00038095 = 18.838 BTC [-]

21:35:47 adlai: ben_vulpes: http://cascadianhacker.com/blog/2014/10/25_notes-on-increasing-the-maximum-bitcoin-block-size-or-why-it-aint-happenin.html#fn.5 << you can have the entire blockchain without most old transactions, since the block header commits to the merkle root of the block, not the entire thing

21:35:49 assbot: Notes on Increasing the Maximum Bitcoin Block Size (or, "Why it ain't happenin'") ... ( http://bit.ly/126wjSL )

21:37:30 ben_vulpes: i'm going to go out on a limb here and say that it's not a real blockchain unless it has all of the transactions.

21:37:36 ben_vulpes: adlai:

21:38:12 ben_vulpes: http://atreus.technomancy.us/ << perhaps the solution to the "portable computing" problem is not a laptop per se, but more modularized infrastrucutre.

21:38:13 assbot: Atreus Keyboard Kit ... ( http://bit.ly/126wPzZ )

21:38:13 adlai: you don't need every transaction

21:38:16 ben_vulpes: infrastructure*

21:38:31 ben_vulpes: a thing that "computes" a thing that "displays" a thing that "accepts inputs"

21:40:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45480 @ 0.00037666 = 17.1305 BTC [-] {2}

21:41:41 adlai: ben_vulpes: section 7 "Reclaiming Disk Space" in the whitepaper explains this, and also suggests that this issue long predates and is unrelated to block size

22:03:12 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

22:03:14 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 368.91, Best ask: 369.63, Bid-ask spread: 0.72000, Last trade: 369.63, 24 hour volume: 6647.47662568, 24 hour low: 363.39, 24 hour high: 375.33, 24 hour vwap: 370.675073401

22:05:45 ben_vulpes: adlai: i see what you're getting at but i don't know that i buy it.

22:06:17 adlai: what is there to buy?

22:06:55 adlai: whether you keep provably irrelevant merkle branches is more of an afterthought that an individual node can do on its own

22:26:31 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "California Quake 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/766/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.29655018 BTC. Current weight: 50,730.

22:30:24 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: atreus keyboard << from what i can see here - a turd.

22:31:08 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i never understood the 'happy hacking keyboard' and imitators. being as i live and die by function keys, the more the merrier. why voluntarily have fewer?

22:34:30 diametric: so even cloaked I'm getting randomly booted off freenode. I think my disconnects are entirely coincidental and unrelated to any join ddos, since I can't find any evidence of the latter.

22:36:30 kakobrekla: not impossible

22:36:40 decimation: diametric: I don't see any join/leave logs from you in the past few minutes

22:37:32 decimation: asciilifeform: there is also an art to packing the keys on a keyboard to just the right density

22:37:33 diametric: decimation: happened about 30 minutes ago, i was afk until now, but i could see the bouncer informing me it was booted from freenode.

22:37:49 diametric: decimation: pretty much whats been happening for the last few days

22:38:00 decimation: diametric: ah yeah I see those, but your cloak is good from here

22:38:29 diametric: yeah, i don't think i was ever being ddos, i think its just a coincidence.

22:38:38 decimation: are you using port 7000/sasl?

22:38:42 decimation: that seems to help me

22:39:47 diametric: i'm connecting over ipv6, port 6697

22:40:04 diametric: i configured sasl on my bouncer, but i'm not sure its working

22:43:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.00030027 = 12.7014 BTC [-]

22:43:51 diametric: anyone have a recommendation on a vps provider that accepts bitcoin and isn't a scam?

22:46:13 kakobrekla: no such thing

22:47:42 thestringpuller: mpoe at record lows

22:47:51 thestringpuller: happy thanksgiving!

22:48:42 kakobrekla: oh

22:48:45 kakobrekla: vultr takes btc

22:49:01 kakobrekla: they are a spinoff of some serial company

22:49:23 *: kakobrekla has been abusing their shit with bitcoinds

22:51:26 kakobrekla: ;;later tell diametric vultr takes btc

22:51:26 gribble: The operation succeeded.

22:52:29 mats_cd03: the evaporation of my mpoe shares continues

22:52:45 *: kakobrekla updates his nav with s.mpoe @ 0

22:59:01 []bot: Bet placed: 1.00899999 BTC for Yes on "Bitcoin difficulty to fall before Mar 2015" http://bitbet.us/bet/1058/ Odds: 57(Y):43(N) by coin, 49(Y):51(N) by weight. Total bet: 4.88145999 BTC. Current weight: 65,246.

23:01:33 diametric: okay i figured out what was up with my connection, I think anyway.

23:02:10 diametric: the particular ipv6 freenode server i was connecting to I was getting like ~15% packet loss on. I picked another server from the round-robin AAAA records for chat.freenode.net, no packet loss now.

23:02:34 diametric: So the server running at 2610:150:4b0f::: is fucked up badly.

23:02:43 decimation: heh

23:03:36 decimation: Must be some crap network port or something

23:03:57 decimation: diametric: do you actually have ipv6 routed to your host or do you use a gateway?

23:04:03 diametric: decimation: its routed to my host

23:04:07 decimation: neat

23:05:52 diametric: --- 2610:150:4b0f:: ping statistics ---

23:05:52 diametric: 15 packets transmitted, 5 received, 66% packet loss, time 14072ms

23:05:58 diametric: yeah that host is really fucked

23:06:38 diametric: looks like thats morgan.freenode.net

23:07:25 diametric: i'm tempted to go drive around now and look at the idiots waiting in lines for black friday midnight sales.

23:11:11 thestringpuller: silly americans

23:17:16 punkman: http://www.bitcoinblackfriday.com/

23:17:17 assbot: Bitcoin Black Friday ... ( http://bit.ly/1xNomdW )

23:35:48 jurov: http://imgur.com/gO5Sx6m ^ likely seen it already

23:36:25 jurov: assbot gone?

23:36:52 jurov: !up fivezerotwo

23:37:05 jurov: assbot prolly ignores imgur

23:37:54 jurov: fivezerotwo are you ddosing that poor creature?

23:38:03 kakobrekla: nah

23:39:24 fivezerotwo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: lol

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: so this is why you don't put everything in one basket

23:40:49 kakobrekla: highlight the funny line will ya?

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: ;;isdown fraudsters.com

23:40:49 gribble: Error: "isdown" is not a valid command.

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: ;;isup fraudsters.com

23:40:49 gribble: fraudsters.com is up

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: well, it isn't ^^

23:40:49 fivezerotwo: http://check-host.net/check-report/50ef7d

23:41:49 fivezerotwo: http://check-host.net/check-report/50ef7e

23:42:49 *: danielpbarron stabs fivezerotwo

23:42:49 mircea_popescu: !down fivezerotwo

23:42:49 kakobrekla: log is up?

23:42:49 mircea_popescu: somebody may sometime care, somewhere.

23:42:49 mircea_popescu: this isn't really any of it.

23:42:49 kakobrekla: scammer that dude.

23:42:49 jurov: log's fine from here

23:42:59 jurov: http://rt.com/usa/209199-reddit-black-friday-walmart/ << lol rt's take

23:45:00 jurov: The attached image is an ominous depiction of a massive Walmart retail shop with throngs of would-be shoppers waiting outside with American flags in the evening rain as dark clouds roll in.

23:45:00 mircea_popescu: lol people love to herd. you should see teh argentines, it's like their favourite passtime, form a queue.

23:46:41 mircea_popescu: adlai: you don't need every transaction << you're an expert now ?

23:48:08 mircea_popescu: diametric: decimation: pretty much whats been happening for the last few days << freenode (and irc generally) isn't exactly a paragon of predictable behaviour

23:48:36 mircea_popescu: diametric: anyone have a recommendation on a vps provider that accepts bitcoin and isn't a scam? << nope. this is an oft recurring problem, nobody wants to make one already. for what, a year ? three ?

23:50:13 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i need my fraudsters fix

23:50:24 thestringpuller: !up fivezerotwo

23:55:22 mircea_popescu: oh wow, mpoe under 40 huh.

23:58:09 fivezerotwo: heh