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00:13:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 110700 @ 0.00051133 = 56.6042 BTC [+] {4}

00:19:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 117035 @ 0.00050704 = 59.3414 BTC [-] {5}

00:52:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 149113 @ 0.00050262 = 74.9472 BTC [-] {4}

00:52:26 thestringpuller: https://twitter.com/brian_armstrong/status/680902843784544256 << and so war begins

00:53:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23944 @ 0.00050164 = 12.0113 BTC [-] {2}

01:30:04 mircea_popescu: eh, coinbase.

01:31:16 thestringpuller: Well that's the nail in the coffin.

01:31:33 thestringpuller: another nail*

01:35:32 shinohai: Death to Coinbase

01:36:01 mircea_popescu: not like it's doing anything anyway. fiddy bucks from sales one way or the other, who cares.

01:37:10 thestringpuller: the rats care. although asciilifeform may be okay with living with vermin, i would prefer to have an exterminator come through.

01:38:32 mircea_popescu: o.O

01:38:37 shinohai: No ones surprised they would suck Gavin's cock since they already suck usg

01:39:42 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

01:39:44 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 413.18, Best ask: 413.86, Bid-ask spread: 0.68000, Last trade: 413.35, 24 hour volume: 98662.17519776, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 456.45, 24 hour vwap: None

02:02:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 252299 @ 0.00050101 = 126.4043 BTC [-] {4}

02:03:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41901 @ 0.00050002 = 20.9513 BTC [-]

02:10:42 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-12-2015#1354143 << which one?

02:10:42 assbot: Logged on 26-12-2015 21:13:04; mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo totally gotta get that guy writing articles huh

02:11:05 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell asciilifeform http://qntra.net/2015/12/juniper-fiasco-greenwald-complicit-in-sustaining-mass-surveillance/#comment-33359

02:11:06 assbot: Juniper Fiasco: Greenwald Complicit In Sustaining Mass Surveillance | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq8lIe )

02:11:06 gribble: The operation succeeded.

02:11:09 mircea_popescu: beautyon, keeps writijng comment articles

02:11:16 BingoBoingo: ah

02:12:16 BingoBoingo: It's been a while since I last proposed this. They just seem to keep blogging on medium.com and occasionally dropping article length comments.

02:18:22 BingoBoingo: Recruitogram sent https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/680935415432359936

02:29:58 mircea_popescu: weird huh

02:32:25 BingoBoingo: Yeah, one of our first persistent non #b-a commenters, but still living on Medium.com and social media mostly

02:44:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 189399 @ 0.00049999 = 94.6976 BTC [-] {2}

02:45:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34701 @ 0.00049984 = 17.3449 BTC [-]

02:46:10 BingoBoingo: https://archive.is/JWDwf

02:46:12 assbot: rate my bulk (185 to 273 from Aug-May) this is the end - Bodybuilding.com Forums ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pq9PlK )

03:01:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 92623 @ 0.00049968 = 46.2819 BTC [-] {3}

03:02:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 143915 @ 0.00049935 = 71.864 BTC [-] {5}

03:05:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73346 @ 0.0004993 = 36.6217 BTC [-] {2}

03:06:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52942 @ 0.00049915 = 26.426 BTC [-]

03:19:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26100 @ 0.00050397 = 13.1536 BTC [+]

03:30:42 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3515

03:30:43 assbot: JL: ‘Safety Knowledge’ ... ( http://bit.ly/1OQJk4h )

03:35:33 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

03:35:34 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 419.33, Best ask: 419.72, Bid-ask spread: 0.39000, Last trade: 419.34, 24 hour volume: 101788.25527735, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 452.7, 24 hour vwap: None

03:45:23 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

03:45:29 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 418.32, vol: 27450.52215391 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 414.668, vol: 16501.33529 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 419.11, vol: 101788.25527735 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 422.35, vol: 6.95928143 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 409.47543, vol: 122320.52750000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 418.49, vol: 226.08512349 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 412.86224, vol: 137.65795311 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

03:45:31 BingoBoingo: ;;more

03:45:32 gribble: average: 414.362163198

03:48:19 BingoBoingo: Looks what happens after the AWS block script https://archive.is/NIB3C

03:48:20 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1R1ScZv )

03:48:26 BingoBoingo: !up BashCo

04:00:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 163800 @ 0.00050398 = 82.5519 BTC [+] {2}

04:30:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 84450 @ 0.00050838 = 42.9327 BTC [+] {2}

04:31:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36976 @ 0.00050995 = 18.8559 BTC [+]

05:10:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 70600 @ 0.00050981 = 35.9926 BTC [-] {2}

05:15:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 85273 @ 0.00051083 = 43.56 BTC [+] {2}

05:16:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53027 @ 0.00051151 = 27.1238 BTC [+]

05:49:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83250 @ 0.00050255 = 41.8373 BTC [-]

06:01:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 48368 @ 0.00050211 = 24.2861 BTC [-] {2}

06:45:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 124650 @ 0.00050966 = 63.5291 BTC [+] {3}

06:53:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 39812 @ 0.00050895 = 20.2623 BTC [-] {3}

06:54:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 284188 @ 0.0005118 = 145.4474 BTC [+] {5}

07:05:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57800 @ 0.00051205 = 29.5965 BTC [+]

07:26:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 108600 @ 0.00050527 = 54.8723 BTC [-]

07:40:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13250 @ 0.00050527 = 6.6948 BTC [-]

07:43:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 65400 @ 0.00051205 = 33.4881 BTC [+]

08:06:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 45550 @ 0.00051205 = 23.3239 BTC [+]

08:26:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 263499 @ 0.00050166 = 132.1869 BTC [-] {6}

08:27:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 76600 @ 0.00049881 = 38.2088 BTC [-] {2}

08:28:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 104401 @ 0.00049866 = 52.0606 BTC [-] {3}

08:43:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36800 @ 0.00050221 = 18.4813 BTC [+]

08:49:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25400 @ 0.00050221 = 12.7561 BTC [+]

09:07:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47599 @ 0.00049857 = 23.7314 BTC [-] {3}

09:24:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86216 @ 0.00049855 = 42.983 BTC [-]

09:25:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29784 @ 0.00049844 = 14.8455 BTC [-] {2}

10:08:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30247 @ 0.00050086 = 15.1495 BTC [+]

10:09:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 168363 @ 0.00049798 = 83.8414 BTC [-] {4}

10:18:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 81303 @ 0.00050086 = 40.7214 BTC [+]

10:19:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28473 @ 0.00050221 = 14.2994 BTC [+]

10:38:02 deedbot-: [BitBet Bets Bets] 1.22257398 BTC on 'Yes' - Bitcoin Network Hits 1 Exahash - http://bitbet.us/bet/1228/bitcoin-network-hits-1-exahash/#b16

10:38:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 43850 @ 0.00049739 = 21.8106 BTC [-]

11:02:36 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

11:02:40 gribble: Current Blocks: 390468 | Current Difficulty: 9.34486707963238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 391103 | Next Difficulty In: 635 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 3 days, 1 hour, 37 minutes, and 23 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

11:02:59 BingoBoingo: Looks leik a lotta hash came online

11:11:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 174300 @ 0.00049824 = 86.8432 BTC [+] {3}

11:41:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 113500 @ 0.00049733 = 56.447 BTC [-] {2}

11:54:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 99766 @ 0.00049652 = 49.5358 BTC [-] {2}

12:04:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 155159 @ 0.00050036 = 77.6354 BTC [+]

12:17:04 adlai: gpg: public key decryption failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device

12:17:13 adlai: ;;seen mike_c

12:17:14 gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 7 weeks, 2 days, 11 hours, 5 minutes, and 58 seconds ago: <mike_c> let's get that thing out the door and get alf some goddamn bitcoin already

12:17:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 120382 @ 0.00050119 = 60.3343 BTC [+] {4}

12:17:19 adlai: ;;isup btcalpha.com

12:17:20 gribble: btcalpha.com is up

12:17:31 adlai: lies, gribble. RIP best mpex charting site

12:18:22 adlai: ("There's money to be made here, and you're not going to be making it by waiting.")

12:20:55 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell mike_c hey btcalpha's 500'd.

12:20:55 gribble: The operation succeeded.

12:21:02 mircea_popescu: le suck. i hope he's ok.

12:27:12 adlai: maybe just pancaked, but it's not always terminal :-\

12:30:15 *: adlai is left, for lack of charts, trying to figure out the mysteries of fraudsters's vanishing divs

12:30:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.00050154 = 8.4259 BTC [+] {3}

12:34:20 jurov: gribble says "error 500? but it's alive, that's all what counts."

12:34:29 jurov: adlai and what mysteries?

12:37:40 mircea_popescu: this guy has a torid love affair with the vague.

12:38:18 adlai: vague like the mona lisa smirk of the lady who doesn't belong in bitcoin

12:39:02 *: adlai would hotlink but maybe that ruins the fun

12:40:16 jurov: orly, vague? why don't you play eulora, then?

12:40:57 mircea_popescu: nono, vague the other way.

12:41:06 mircea_popescu: he wants to RUN it, not play it.

12:41:06 adlai: !s from:jurov play trade

12:41:07 assbot: 1 results for 'from:jurov play trade' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=from%3Ajurov+play+trade

12:45:50 adlai: "i'll play with my food once i've eaten my toys"

12:48:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 144750 @ 0.00050334 = 72.8585 BTC [+] {3}

12:54:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46647 @ 0.00049631 = 23.1514 BTC [-] {3}

13:05:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 44403 @ 0.00050421 = 22.3884 BTC [+]

13:23:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4447 @ 0.00049712 = 2.2107 BTC [-]

13:27:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 141100 @ 0.00051175 = 72.2079 BTC [+] {5}

13:28:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90300 @ 0.00051214 = 46.2462 BTC [+] {4}

13:48:01 mircea_popescu: hey BingoBoingo do you happen to recall that article in the logs where some honcho at walmart discussed how people mill around in the stoire the midnight before ebt time ?

13:48:34 BingoBoingo: lemme retrieve some candidates

13:49:16 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3467 ?

13:49:18 assbot: JL: Of Kings and Queens ... ( http://bit.ly/1P9KDOp )

13:49:27 BingoBoingo: @s walmart

13:49:32 BingoBoingo: !s walmart

13:49:32 assbot: 147 results for 'walmart' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=walmart

13:49:58 mircea_popescu: "Once the clock strikes midnight and EBT cards are charged, you can see our results start to tick up," says Tom Schoewe, Wal-Mart Stores Inc's chief financial officer.

13:50:00 mircea_popescu: heh

13:50:11 mircea_popescu: nah it was someone from walmart.

13:50:49 BingoBoingo: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-foodstamps-idUSTRE5BH2C220091218

13:50:50 assbot: Midnight in the food-stamp economy | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vla0z7 )

13:51:10 mircea_popescu: aha

14:00:17 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CXH6Uh8UwAEnjY_.jpg:large

14:00:18 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vlawx8 )

14:00:33 punkman: "Dancers from China's National Pole Dance Team performs in Beiji village, the nation's most northerly point"

14:14:30 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

14:14:32 gribble: Bitfinex BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 417.62, Best ask: 417.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.37000, Last trade: 417.55, 24 hour volume: 53425.91412428, 24 hour low: 405.5, 24 hour high: 425.43, 24 hour vwap: None

14:14:57 thestringpuller: ;;hashrate

14:14:57 gribble: Error: "hashrate" is not a valid command.

14:15:01 thestringpuller: ;;nethash

14:15:02 gribble: 837554982.002

14:16:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8800 @ 0.00050607 = 4.4534 BTC [-] {2}

14:20:56 mircea_popescu: china will prolly rock i na decade.

14:22:24 thestringpuller: dunno. heard shanghai ain't good for asthma. I'll wait until someone invents air scrubbers.

14:22:25 punkman: https://twitter.com/JRKaiman/status/680342696662138882

14:23:11 punkman: "one of Beijing's top restaurants"

14:23:45 thestringpuller: Whoa. Coinbase is getting DDOSED.

14:23:54 thestringpuller: punkman: does that mean the air in the restaurant?

14:24:06 punkman: supposedly

15:00:54 thestringpuller: ;;later tell mike_c BTCAlpha is down. 500 internal error.

15:00:54 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:01:00 thestringpuller: ;;isup btcalpha.com

15:01:01 gribble: btcalpha.com is up

15:02:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 105500 @ 0.00050621 = 53.4052 BTC [+] {3}

15:25:03 thestringpuller: Everyone is playing Crucible on r/btc and this pops up: "Playing witchhunt roulette, are we? Then I say: something something Mircea Popescu something."

15:26:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 80900 @ 0.00049992 = 40.4435 BTC [-] {3}

15:26:48 jurov: bitchhunt

15:28:34 deedbot-: [fraudsters] Okcupid.com, the dating site. - http://fraudsters.com/2015/okcupidcom-the-dating-site/

15:29:15 jurov: wow deedbot-'s trigger word?

15:29:37 jurov: !b 4

15:29:38 assbot: Last 4 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0ARS40T.txt )

15:31:30 BingoBoingo: wow

15:44:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 67300 @ 0.00049877 = 33.5672 BTC [-] {4}

16:01:47 mircea_popescu: !up Guest90279

16:02:52 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2012/ciudateii-astia-cu-hb95-urile/#selection-85.0-85.42 << epic shit from long ago.

16:02:53 assbot: Ciudateii astia cu HB9.5-urile on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pqlhfo )

16:07:34 jurov: https://jochen-hoenicke.de/trezor-power-analysis/ as predicted by alf

16:07:36 assbot: Extracting the Private Key from a TREZOR ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pqlzmv )

16:10:00 mircea_popescu: aww

16:14:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 178228 @ 0.00050827 = 90.5879 BTC [+] {4}

16:43:44 mircea_popescu: !up ahmed_

16:46:59 thestringpuller: oh wow. ALF was right on the money using DPA to break the trezor.

16:47:38 mircea_popescu: iirc the point wasn't controversial.

16:55:55 BingoBoingo: The controversy was if anyone would care enough to do it

16:58:11 shinohai: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2015/02/02/british-army-creates-facebook-soldiers-brigade_n_6592564.html <<< LOL

16:58:12 assbot: British Army Creates Brigade Of Facebook Soldiers ... ( http://bit.ly/22tF3Oj )

16:59:25 BingoBoingo: From the mines: "I didn't know if I wanted to laugh or cry when I went to a class to make sure we knew about this special equipment locked away in out large hospital and how to get/order it. Plus we were told we weren't allowed to call them anything but "bariatric" for fear that the patient or family might overhear it called the "big boy" chair or the 1000lb lift sling, or the XXXXL whatever. "

17:05:39 thestringpuller: PSA: Bitnodes units shipped with 64GB SD cards will reach capacity in next few days. << L0L

17:05:53 mircea_popescu: da fuck ? the chain's well over 150gb

17:07:42 mircea_popescu: !up asciilifeform

17:07:46 asciilifeform: ty mircea_popescu

17:07:50 mircea_popescu: you and your weird ideas about keys.

17:07:56 shinohai: LOL

17:07:59 asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/25MGHBZ for everybody else

17:08:00 assbot: dpaste: 25MGHBZ ... ( http://bit.ly/1MBZZqD )

17:08:44 mircea_popescu: psa : do not use the gpg supplied mechanism for "key expiration", or anything else from there as far as "key management" goes for that matter.

17:11:17 thestringpuller: !up Quent

17:11:41 Quent: you guys behind these DDoses?

17:11:56 Quent: obviously I don't expect truthful statements

17:12:12 Quent: but thought to give you the opportunity to deny it and show just how elite you are...

17:12:49 asciilifeform: the ddos of fraudsters ? qntra ?

17:12:52 Quent: personally I suspect Peter Todd and btcdrak

17:12:57 Quent: ddos of coinbase

17:13:02 Quent: and XT nodes before that

17:13:08 Quent: and Slush pool

17:13:10 *: asciilifeform apparently slept through this

17:13:35 punkman: assbot is behind it all!

17:13:39 Quent: I don't think you guys have the brains or funds to carry out these DDoses

17:13:44 asciilifeform: there are how many - 1000 ? xt nodes ?

17:13:47 asciilifeform: and all were ddosed ?

17:13:58 Quent: yes

17:14:32 Quent: i mean

17:14:35 thestringpuller: asciilifeform: there is only 480 listed xtnodes

17:14:38 Quent: your leader offered what

17:14:41 Quent: 1 btc ahaha

17:14:46 Quent: 1btc to erm kill sipa I think

17:14:48 Quent: 1 btc ahaha

17:14:51 Quent: such elite ahaha

17:14:59 thestringpuller: !down Quent

17:15:05 thestringpuller: okay enough of that

17:15:48 asciilifeform: long ago, after the failed american invasion of cuba at the bay of pigs, usg offered a million for the head of castro's #2, half a million for #3, and a penny for castro's

17:17:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0005066 = 8.4602 BTC [-]

17:17:52 thestringpuller: now he pollutes my pm

17:18:03 thestringpuller: mr. spam comes in many forms.

17:18:06 shinohai: https://twitter.com/BryceWeiner/status/681159188429582336 <<<ue

17:19:35 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354327 << dpa is not only not my idea, but it pre-dates the computer (see, e.g., https://fveydocs.org/document/learning-enemy-gunman concerning typewriters, or the soviet cipher machines that had ballast coils)

17:19:35 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 16:46:59; thestringpuller: oh wow. ALF was right on the money using DPA to break the trezor.

17:19:36 thestringpuller: shinohai: "two bit idiot likes this tweet"

17:19:46 shinohai: xD

17:20:27 asciilifeform: (and also i will add that trezor has a considerably simpler orifice, but we digress, folks who read the logz know what it is)

17:22:37 thestringpuller: will cardano be vulnerable to DPA?

17:22:57 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: it runs on batteries.

17:23:24 thestringpuller: iirc anything with batteries is susceptible?

17:23:27 asciilifeform: thestringpuller: if you have trouble sourcing batteries not containing usg dpa circuitry, invest in a dental xray machine

17:23:27 thestringpuller: or am I misinformed...

17:23:50 thestringpuller: ^-wherefor?

17:24:01 asciilifeform: i suppose i ought to explain dpa as a thing

17:24:23 *: thestringpuller pulls up a chair and listens.

17:24:33 asciilifeform: if someone walks away with your cipher machine while you sleep, and he has half a brain, he will have your key

17:24:53 asciilifeform: at the very least, he can make use of it using the machine as it was designed to be used

17:25:20 asciilifeform: the scenario of a dpa attack is where you have possession of the machine, but the enemy controls the power supply

17:25:48 asciilifeform: e.g., a typewriter in an embassy, and enemy attached a precision ampermeter to your mains

17:26:10 asciilifeform: or, in modern times, you plug your box into a usb jack in a cafe

17:29:03 asciilifeform: as i pointed out a year+ ago, a trezor plugged into a specially-instrumented but visually uninteresting pc will give up its key.

17:29:58 asciilifeform: most of the extant literature concerning dpa is about extracting firmware from copyprotected microcontrollers in a laboratory setting

17:30:08 asciilifeform: a very different sort of affair, but same method.

17:30:08 BingoBoingo: in lighter news https://archive.is/G5IC1

17:30:40 asciilifeform: ugh

17:31:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 54200 @ 0.00050643 = 27.4485 BTC [-] {3}

17:32:16 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354334 << ~92 GB

17:32:16 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 17:05:53; mircea_popescu: da fuck ? the chain's well over 150gb

17:32:51 asciilifeform: or hm, ~68

17:32:58 asciilifeform: was counting a bloated debug.log

17:35:07 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354298 << how's that ? they will move the belching smokestacks to usaschwitz ?

17:35:07 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 14:20:56; mircea_popescu: china will prolly rock i na decade.

17:38:01 asciilifeform: in other lulz,

17:38:01 asciilifeform: https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/1178

17:38:03 assbot: Remove Coinbase from the "Choose your Wallet" page by Cobra-Bitcoin · Pull Request #1178 · bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1Pr9HCz )

17:38:08 asciilifeform: 'It is about sending a strong message. I think we may need to start an accreditation scheme for Bitcoin-consensus compliant wallets and services. Through code signing and use of multisig, we can even distinguish transactions made by compliant wallets and non-compliant wallets, and have pools not mine them (or wallets refuse to send to known-non-compliant wallets).'

17:40:47 shinohai: !up asciilifeform

17:53:51 VariaVarietatis: Has anyone heard about something that around the t0 and t1 vertebra and lets you talk without talking?

17:57:36 BingoBoingo: Yes. Oscilliscope works for this.

17:58:00 BingoBoingo: Plug one in and try it

17:58:04 asciilifeform: VariaVarietatis: 'subvocal speech recognition'

17:58:07 asciilifeform: old nyooz.

17:58:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12553 @ 0.00050893 = 6.3886 BTC [+] {2}

17:59:26 VariaVarietatis: asciilifeform: you have one?

17:59:33 asciilifeform: nope

18:00:01 asciilifeform: afaik there is not a commercial gadget for subvocal

18:00:42 asciilifeform: why do you need this ? got some prisoners who like to subvocalize launch codes in their sleep ?

18:04:11 VariaVarietatis: Yes, they are pretty nice been using one for a two months turns out everyone seems to have them was last one in on them.

18:05:44 BingoBoingo: !b 5

18:05:45 assbot: Last 5 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/3KAQJ9R.txt )

18:08:33 VariaVarietatis: asciilifeform: someone told me you made the best version based on the fsb/spetsnaz plans true?

18:08:58 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all --currency gbp

18:09:05 gribble: Bitstamp BTCGBP last: 282.04204, vol: 9711.26453368 | BTC-E BTCGBP last: 281.950376, vol: 7614.49142 | CampBX BTCGBP last: 276.34, vol: 1.22437492 | BTCChina BTCGBP last: 280.043414, vol: 56101.16990000 | Kraken BTCGBP last: 275.02802, vol: 0.0103525 | Bitcoin-Central BTCGBP last: 288.514528013, vol: 45.23474211 | Volume-weighted last average: 280.510363074

18:09:20 jurov: yes spetsnaz gave him plans when he was 10 and emigrated to USA

18:09:22 BingoBoingo: OMG CRASHING

18:11:09 VariaVarietatis: heard they have been in use for 10-15 years. at this point.

18:11:09 jurov: !t m x.eur

18:11:09 assbot: [MPEX:X.EUR] 1D: 0.00255064 / 0.00259203 / 0.00262332 (887 shares, 2.30 BTC), 7D: 0.00238552 / 0.00247328 / 0.00262332 (4223 shares, 10.44 BTC), 30D: 0.00061753 / 0.00213157 / 0.00282306 (12305 shares, 26.23 BTC)

18:11:33 jurov: ;;calc 1/0.00061753

18:11:33 gribble: 1619.35452529

18:11:49 jurov: orly

18:12:06 jurov: VariaVarietatis: [citation needed]

18:13:22 jurov: anyone: before panic selling x.eur at 4x the value, please consult me first

18:14:23 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

18:14:29 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 418.46, vol: 9641.91363683 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 418.325, vol: 7562.51257 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 418.01, vol: 38030.8102987 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 410.0, vol: 1.22437492 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 415.058553, vol: 56037.40040000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 422.41286, vol: 47.54402785 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 428.052914229, vol: 45.23474211 | Volume-weighted last (1 more message)

18:14:33 BingoBoingo: ;;more

18:14:33 gribble: average: 416.591114115

18:15:16 BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform

18:15:33 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354419 << ahahahahaha wut.

18:15:33 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 18:08:33; VariaVarietatis: asciilifeform: someone told me you made the best version based on the fsb/spetsnaz plans true?

18:16:43 *: asciilifeform wonders what other 'best versions' and of what he makes with 'fsb spetznaz plans', and according to whom.

18:19:05 BingoBoingo: Laser Mosin?

18:19:07 jurov: it's quite plausible explanation of your shiva hands. you work using hands, while subvocalising on irc at the same time (or other way around)

18:19:21 asciilifeform: not far off, l0l

18:19:53 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354440 << http://i.imgur.com/9GeH4.jpg

18:19:53 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 18:19:05; BingoBoingo: Laser Mosin?

18:19:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NIYhrt )

18:20:10 BingoBoingo: lol

18:20:26 asciilifeform: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/10/08/soviet-laser-pistol << famous useless weapon

18:20:27 assbot: The Soviet Laser Pistol - The Firearm Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1NIYnzo )

18:20:42 VariaVarietatis: Gotta look into it more stuck on a shit server atm bbl

18:31:53 BingoBoingo: !up fedlet

18:31:56 BingoBoingo: !up fudlet

18:32:06 BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform

18:36:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73450 @ 0.00051043 = 37.4911 BTC [+] {2}

18:40:08 asciilifeform: https://cryptome.org/2015/12/nyc-spynet.jpg << from the l0lfarmz

18:40:11 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1NJ0GlQ )

18:41:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 83200 @ 0.00051177 = 42.5793 BTC [+] {3}

18:43:58 mircea_popescu: <Quent> personally I suspect Peter Todd and btcdrak << but who the fuck are you to "personally".

18:44:02 mircea_popescu: screen names are persons now ?!

18:47:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the belching smokestacks to usaschwitz ? <<< mongolia, india, pakistan, whatevs. africa, argentina, they're looking.

18:47:33 asciilifeform: didn't mircea_popescu explain earlier that argentines won't work unless bred in captivity for 10,000 yrs - or something

18:47:48 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> 'It is about sending a strong message. << it is about sending a strong message alright.

18:48:03 mircea_popescu: apparently all the others somehow got lost in a cloud of "could never happen to me".

18:49:53 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 1/0.00253536

18:49:53 gribble: 394.421305061

18:50:03 mircea_popescu: jurov it's about right no ?

18:50:33 thestringpuller: "You can't fix a capacity problem with fees. If there are only 20 seats on the bus and 25 people that want to ride there is no ticket price where everyone gets a seat." << I love the lulz on reddit. "We want everyone to be equal because we aren't worth shit in the real world. Treat us fairly!!!!!11"

18:51:15 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform argentina is only notable for the landmass. you can fit about five europes in here.

18:51:35 punkman: "maybe if we stop giving out tickets for free, we'll be able to affor a second bus"

18:51:39 mircea_popescu: the white chicks currently inhabiting it could be trained to dance, i suppose. if you can teach bears you can probably teach argentines too

18:51:39 asciilifeform: the 5 can ride as in http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-03-2014#544127

18:51:39 assbot: Logged on 04-03-2014 01:25:41; asciilifeform: russian derper: 'if we'd let the jerries win, we'd be riding in mercedes benz now!'

18:53:52 shinohai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354466 <<< definitely Grade-A popcorn out there today.

18:53:52 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 18:50:33; thestringpuller: "You can't fix a capacity problem with fees. If there are only 20 seats on the bus and 25 people that want to ride there is no ticket price where everyone gets a seat." << I love the lulz on reddit. "We want everyone to be equal because we aren't worth shit in the real world. Treat us fairly!!!!!11"

18:54:41 mircea_popescu: actually there is a ticket price where everyone WHO SHOULD BE RIDING gets a seat.

18:55:42 jurov: mircea_popescu: current price is about right. but there were 2 dips in last few months

18:56:06 mircea_popescu: aha

18:56:27 mircea_popescu: cheaper and more effectual way to announce that being, of course, having a bid in i guess.

18:58:13 jurov: butbutbut... let's have some drama!!!1

18:59:14 jurov: besides, i did have bids most of the time. but dude wanted to avoid them or whatevs

19:00:12 mircea_popescu: maybe you taking them out generated a micropanic

19:01:45 jurov: hahaha

19:03:51 BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform

19:11:42 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354184 << In an update on the recruitment suggested by mircea_popescu yesterday, the recruitogram got a twitter like. Not a visit here nor any actual message in reply.

19:11:42 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 02:18:22; BingoBoingo: Recruitogram sent https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/680935415432359936

19:12:13 mircea_popescu: well... twitter is a pos social media site...

19:16:05 BingoBoingo: Well, it's not like I'm going to expend effort to figure out if the medium.com social networking site has a way to shoot recruitograms out.

19:17:58 *: asciilifeform observes that banning aws has ~increased net throughput~

19:18:05 asciilifeform: which is interesting

19:19:38 BingoBoingo: banning AWS has more assholes sending me bloomfilter requests for their SPV bullshit

19:20:08 asciilifeform: any reason we don't insta-disconnect these ?

19:21:03 BingoBoingo: I know of none, but I've yet to notice any linger once they get all of the copious nothing that they are entitled to

19:21:14 asciilifeform: is there a particular reason we ought to be wasting any cycles on 'embrace & extend' fucktards ?

19:21:59 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the way the socket handler works (and fixing this would involve rewriting more or less everything) a 'lingerer' ties up the box.

19:22:07 thestringpuller: ;;seen irdial

19:22:07 gribble: irdial was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 49 weeks, 5 days, 21 hours, 16 minutes, and 33 seconds ago: <irdial> ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:ff211e140a17d6846aebcaf83249e5695f1ca5e23862c72443770251

19:22:08 BingoBoingo: ah

19:22:26 thestringpuller: does he even show up in channel anymore?

19:24:18 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: how aggressively do disconnected nodes attempt to reconnect?

19:25:27 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: varies

19:25:47 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the aws box which appeared to exist solely to tie up zoolag - quite aggressively

19:29:07 asciilifeform: obligatory: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-05-2015#1120634

19:29:07 assbot: Logged on 05-05-2015 04:18:35; mircea_popescu: http://travel.smart-guide.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/The-Most-Crowded-Train-in-Pakistan.jpg prolly better

19:29:38 ben_vulpes: is there reason to suspect that insta-disconnecting nodes will achieve anything rather than queuing the disconnector up for a reconnection shortly?

19:30:08 asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: works best as part of a balanced diet, which includes banhammer

19:31:57 asciilifeform: but ultimately there is no way around http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-10-2015#1309343

19:31:57 assbot: Logged on 27-10-2015 21:46:36; mircea_popescu: providing public services is not merely a waste

19:32:28 asciilifeform: it is not actually possible to put meat out in the sun 'but not for flies'

19:32:44 asciilifeform: what however ~is~ possible is to bugspray the current set of flies

19:32:57 asciilifeform: and make some temporary breathing room.

19:35:39 BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform

19:36:07 asciilifeform: often i picture how horrified even the most hardened liberast would be if he could visit a meatspace universe that is as devoid of healthy meat-flies separation as the net is today

19:36:47 asciilifeform: picture, no such thing as a fine restaurant without stinking beggars and screaming welfare kidz represented 'fairly'

19:37:01 asciilifeform: and certainly no way to keep non-paying anybody out of nearly anything

19:37:20 asciilifeform: so the stench of poverty everywhere, without exception

19:37:58 asciilifeform: and consider how many bodies could physically fit in your living room

19:38:19 asciilifeform: picture if there were no practical way of keeping them out.

19:40:13 asciilifeform: does the conductor of that paki train wield a stick with which to dislodge excess 'outdoor passengers' ?

19:40:22 asciilifeform: or do they fall off on their own as the engine revvs up ?

19:40:33 asciilifeform: or do they get sheared off at tunnels.

19:40:49 BingoBoingo: LOOK BRUCE WAGNER is back http://gaysexthailand.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=20

19:40:51 assbot: How to Use Bitcoin as a Faster Cheaper Easier Western Union - gaysexthailand.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jb1QI3 )

19:42:00 asciilifeform: is there a coprophagiaincambodia.com ?

19:42:20 asciilifeform: fuckamuleinkabul.com ?

19:42:29 BingoBoingo: ;;isup coprophagiaincambodia.com

19:42:30 gribble: coprophagiaincambodia.com is down

19:42:41 BingoBoingo: ;;isup fuckamuleinkabul.com

19:42:42 gribble: fuckamuleinkabul.com is down

19:42:50 BingoBoingo: Doesn't seem so

19:43:04 BingoBoingo: Bruce wagner piece was linked from /r/bitcoin

19:43:36 asciilifeform: !s bruce wagner

19:43:37 assbot: 12 results for 'bruce wagner' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=bruce+wagner

19:43:50 asciilifeform: snore.

19:44:53 BingoBoingo: He was Roger Ver before Roger Ver was Roger Ver

19:48:11 BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1

19:48:37 adlai: ;;later tell asciilifeform fwiw, proper key management protocol dictates that one mention the new keyid upon registration of the new

19:48:37 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:48:52 asciilifeform: adlai: same keyid

19:49:04 asciilifeform: adlai: yearly expir time increment

19:54:14 *: adlai can't even begin to fathom the 'key management protocol'resulting in such symptoms

19:54:50 asciilifeform: adlai: assbot, as i understand, has a manually-curated cache of pubkeys

19:55:25 *: adlai waits for thereallifeform to see his message

19:55:29 asciilifeform: so i ride on the outside of the train until kakobrekla wakes.

19:55:39 adlai: unless he's already riding on the upside of the anthill

19:55:50 asciilifeform: adlai: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354339

19:55:50 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 17:07:59; asciilifeform: http://dpaste.com/25MGHBZ for everybody else

19:56:08 *: adlai saw! what else could start such babble

19:56:55 *: adlai doesn't care, it's not like he needs anything pgp signed from alf. might as well broadcast loper-over-avian-carrier

19:57:28 adlai: (if anything, this is a symptom of lazyness towards c++ turdballs!)

20:01:07 *: asciilifeform bbl.

20:06:16 BingoBoingo: !up asciilifeform

20:06:30 ben_vulpes: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/12/23/the-feds-just-shut-down-a-huge-program-that-lets-cops-take-your-stuff-and-keep-it/ << forfeiture now a fedz-only game

20:06:30 assbot: The Justice Department just shut down a huge asset forfeiture program - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jb3ERn )

20:08:41 Duffer1: it's my understanding that they did it for budgetary reasons and may renew the sharing program when the feds plug their shortfall

20:15:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 53400 @ 0.00050405 = 26.9163 BTC [-] {2}

20:27:22 ben_vulpes: > plug their shortfall

20:27:23 ben_vulpes: sure

20:27:56 ben_vulpes: related: https://www.govdeals.com/index.cfm?fa=Main.Item&itemid=1052&acctid=6209

20:27:57 assbot: Large Lot of Assorted Bike Parts/ Accessories!! (GD1052) - GovDeals.com ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jb53Hz )

20:28:05 punkman: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CW0Gy_hUsAAFx0i.jpg

20:28:05 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Jb54eu )

20:46:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 82700 @ 0.0005088 = 42.0778 BTC [+] {2}

20:47:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 93989 @ 0.0005069 = 47.643 BTC [-] {2}

21:01:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 86500 @ 0.00050994 = 44.1098 BTC [+] {3}

21:02:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 73700 @ 0.00050438 = 37.1728 BTC [-] {2}

21:31:50 ben_vulpes: kindly disregard: http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/17d910f1-2ecd-47ac-bf2b-6bc530f3dce9/

21:31:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCUrw0 )

21:32:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31900 @ 0.00051064 = 16.2894 BTC [+]

21:34:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 118676 @ 0.00051136 = 60.6862 BTC [+] {3}

21:44:06 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> ben_vulpes: works best as part of a balanced diet, which includes banhammer << by... ip ?

21:44:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 167000 @ 0.00051207 = 85.5157 BTC [+] {6}

21:45:31 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> LOOK BRUCE WAGNER is back << that's probably that goat fuckwit.

21:46:41 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes << forfeiture now a fedz-only game << in the logs last week!

21:49:26 mircea_popescu: http://files.explosm.net/comics/Kris/dop.png

21:49:27 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCVNqB )

21:50:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27200 @ 0.00051276 = 13.9471 BTC [+] {2}

21:51:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 58031 @ 0.0005128 = 29.7583 BTC [+] {2}

21:52:53 mircea_popescu: blast from the past... "This mob mentality may be the end of Bitcoin." http://fraudsters.com/2013/whats-a-sperglord/#selection-151.223-151.267

21:52:54 assbot: What's a SpergLord ? on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCW6lp )

21:53:04 mircea_popescu: anyone recall bitcoinasic.com ?

21:57:01 mircea_popescu: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2013/09/27/ceos/ << or, for that matter, a very young bb ?

21:57:02 assbot: CEO | Bingo Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1Prx0fE )

22:08:59 ben_vulpes: wahahahah oh ho

22:09:04 ben_vulpes: there is a new file in /Applications

22:09:16 ben_vulpes: "Upgrade to El Capitan"

22:13:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 249300 @ 0.0005121 = 127.6665 BTC [-] {6}

22:13:58 adlai: arise, chicgkuun!

22:18:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 279650 @ 0.00050604 = 141.5141 BTC [-] {5}

22:32:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25050 @ 0.00050899 = 12.7502 BTC [+] {2}

22:34:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 98100 @ 0.00051319 = 50.3439 BTC [+]

22:42:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 131450 @ 0.0005133 = 67.4733 BTC [+] {4}

22:56:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 90550 @ 0.00051346 = 46.4938 BTC [+] {2}

23:01:44 punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3ydwg2/warning_abnormally_high_number_of_blocks/

23:01:45 assbot: "WARNING: abnormally high number of blocks generated, 48 blocks received in the last 4 hours (24 expected)" : Bitcoin ... ( http://bit.ly/1VlA65j )

23:06:44 kakobrekla: Soviet high-rank bureaucrats often acted like that when they were ordered to design something new. If they couldn’t cope with the task they committed outright forgery and sometimes it even impaired national defense.

23:06:44 kakobrekla: The required equipment was often purchased abroad and presented as someone’s personal design. By the way, it was common practice in industry throughout the history of the Soviet Union. For example, in the 1980s a computer “EC1841” was designed for military purposes. The designers even managed to get the USSR State Award. Later it turned out that Soviet computer chips had never been designed – they were imported from the

23:06:44 kakobrekla: USA and embedded in the computer. Original labels were brushed out and Soviet labels were put on the chips instead of them...

23:06:55 kakobrekla: well that was lulzy.

23:23:05 thestringpuller: !gettrust justus_ranvier

23:23:05 assbot: justus_ranvier is not registered in WoT.

23:33:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 95100 @ 0.00051335 = 48.8196 BTC [-] {4}

23:35:15 thestringpuller: ;;later tell hanbot thewhet.net is down :(

23:35:15 gribble: The operation succeeded.

23:49:09 ben_vulpes: not from here, thestringpuller

23:50:18 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-12-2015#1354353 << is 'quent' supposed to be a less free version of frequent or a less subsumed version of subsequent ?

23:50:18 assbot: Logged on 27-12-2015 17:13:39; Quent: I don't think you guys have the brains or funds to carry out these DDoses

23:52:18 punkman: was probably "quant" but hard not to misspell

23:53:05 kakobrekla: actually we had this before

23:53:08 kakobrekla: ;;ud quent

23:53:09 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=quent | quent. A gentlemanly way of saying cunt! Example Usage: "I kindly ask you to refrain from using my wife's ass in that impertinent manner, you quent!". by stumow ...

23:53:15 pete_dushenski: l0l!

23:53:25 pete_dushenski: quent, esq.

23:53:57 pete_dushenski: http://nautil.us/issue/31/stress/what-i-learned-from-losing-200-million << "...of other people's money."

23:53:59 assbot: What the Economic Crash of 2008 Taught Me ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbhrHC )

23:54:15 pete_dushenski: "Only by managing that monstrosity through the crisis did I come to fully appreciate how unlike physics markets are, how crucial to outcomes other people and luck are, and how, no matter how hard I worked or how much I prepared, there would always be some things I couldn’t completely fathom."

23:54:37 pete_dushenski: til 'maya crude' is a thing.

23:55:16 pete_dushenski: and i called myself an oil country boy...

23:55:32 punkman: "the quaint quant" would be a good name for a blog

23:56:17 pete_dushenski: http://quaintwithpaint.com/ << also works.

23:56:18 assbot: Quaint With Paint ... ( http://bit.ly/1JbhAL5 )

23:57:10 punkman: I'd rename that to "I paint old shit"

23:58:52 pete_dushenski: doesn't quite have the same ring to it