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00:06:10 BingoBoingo: http://hotpenguin.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/repurpose-reuse-old-stuff-27-600x454.jpg

00:12:11 assbot: ADutchGamer +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

00:12:54 bounce: !up ADutchGamer

00:13:11 bounce: !up ADutchGamer

00:13:16 ADutchGamer: thanks

00:13:38 ADutchGamer: is anyone working on the log and bash yet?

00:14:07 ADutchGamer: I'm trying to catch up but all they show is flush dns

00:14:31 ADutchGamer: as in: just htis text: 'flush dns'

00:19:16 *: bounce reloaded named and it still shows up with the same thing. possibly a SOA problem. oh well.

00:19:28 bounce: can stick in hosts for a temporary solution

00:20:59 kakobrekla: not all dns records were updated yet but i put that on anyway so it looks like its not my fault

00:21:19 assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/34QF9NN.txt )

00:21:19 BingoBoingo: !b 1

00:25:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.00075165 = 4.2844 BTC

00:26:50 ADutchGamer: So it's just a matter of waiting a few hours and then it will work?

00:27:10 kakobrekla: or edit hosts file

00:32:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22100 @ 0.00075113 = 16.6 BTC [-] {2}

00:33:30 ADutchGamer: it works now, thanks :)

00:33:43 kakobrekla: yw!

00:38:45 bounce: until the next record change

00:39:01 kakobrekla: :)

00:39:11 bounce: tablet-optimised layouts, how I loathe thee

00:39:25 kakobrekla: doesnt change that often - this is the first time.

00:40:35 bounce: may want to drop ttl a bit beforehand

00:41:32 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> changed the engine only to figure out brake was on. << loller

00:42:52 kakobrekla: or proxy it or whatever else but its not like you guys cant take a couple of hrs off

00:45:12 bounce: clearly not

00:47:23 BingoBoingo: Basically Mpex's week+ summer vacation is the equivalent of assbot being down a few hours.

00:47:51 BingoBoingo: Well not assbot, but the logs, bash and other bot ass output

00:47:53 thestringpuller: !ticker m s.mpoe

00:47:54 assbot: [MPEX:S.MPOE] 1D: 0.00074715 / 0.00075076 / 0.0007539 (480877 shares, 361.03 BTC), 7D: 0.00074485 / 0.00075039 / 0.00075684 (4158000 shares, 3,120.16 BTC), 30D: 0.00059659 / 0.00076292 / 0.00086605 (15660113 shares, 11,947.42 BTC)

00:48:29 thestringpuller: assbot you my only friend

00:51:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00074941 = 11.9906 BTC [-] {2}

00:51:20 BingoBoingo: ;;rated assbot

00:51:20 gribble: You rated user assbot on Fri Apr 11 14:42:06 2014, with a rating of 10, and supplied these additional notes: !up Periscope.

00:51:36 BingoBoingo: ;;rate assbot 10 friend

00:51:37 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user assbot has changed from 10 to 10.

00:54:48 BingoBoingo: This is a way to handle a troublesome District Attourney http://www.alternet.org/outrage-mans-health-insurance-holding-his-liver-transplant-hostage

00:54:48 assbot: Outrage: Man's Health Insurance Is Holding His Liver Transplant Hostage | Alternet

00:56:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19000 @ 0.00074843 = 14.2202 BTC [-]

00:56:28 BingoBoingo: Sent out to sea on the same sort of red tape they put in front of decent people who simply disagree with them on matters of justice

01:02:32 mats_cd03: i'll be your friend. :)

01:06:42 bounce: then this is the end

01:07:14 mats_cd03: there's no end where we're going.

01:28:41 asciilifeform: from navajo link: http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-pennsylvania-eric-frein-update-20140924-story.html

01:28:42 assbot: Trooper-ambush suspect spotted several times in manhunt, police say - LA Times

01:29:11 asciilifeform: this is the n-th desperado, of only the public ones, in kn years, for some pos. int. k.

01:29:24 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: This shutting down an entire Geographic area is what they practiced in Boston, yes?

01:29:29 asciilifeform: SOP by now.

01:33:57 mats_cd03: i wonder if hes enjoying himself

01:34:08 asciilifeform: probably.

01:34:20 asciilifeform: although the arse grenade (if he has any brains, has one) probably chafes.

01:34:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.0007481 = 18.4781 BTC [-] {2}

01:36:51 TheNewDeal: pardon my ignorance, but logs are in reboot stage?

01:37:22 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: DNS is repropagating

01:37:43 BingoBoingo: kako put on his surgeon's gown today

01:39:56 asciilifeform: 'Frein may see the manhunt as a game, police said, and likely has supplies and a bunker hidden in the woods. Police have found soiled diapers, Serbian cigarettes and other clues that he remains in the area, but are proceeding with caution in part because they believe he may have explosives.'

01:40:15 asciilifeform: mega-lulzies

01:42:46 asciilifeform: 'Authorities said Friday that the hard drive of a computer used by Frein provides evidence he had been planning an attack for years. They said Frein's Internet searches included sites on how to avoid police manhunts.'

01:43:19 asciilifeform: menu: herr frein is 1) an imbecile 2) elementarily framed 3) fictional persona

01:43:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5111 @ 0.00074774 = 3.8217 BTC [-]

01:43:58 bounce: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Matthew_Frein nice list of toys they're throwing after him

01:43:58 assbot: Eric Matthew Frein - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

01:47:04 asciilifeform: after someone.

01:47:58 asciilifeform: http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/topten

01:47:58 assbot: FBI — Ten Most Wanted

01:48:02 asciilifeform: ^ third place. nice.

01:49:47 BingoBoingo: "Authorities speculate that Frein, driving with his lights off on Pennsylvania Route 402, failed to see a T-junction and drove into the swamp, then may have traveled 15 to 20 miles on foot to Canadensis, Pennsylvania, where his parents live." << Lesson here

01:51:27 asciilifeform: lesson << ditch a car, confuse idiot bureaucrats ?

01:52:40 BingoBoingo: Lights might make a car visible, but crashing it because you kept them off, suspect!

01:52:56 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: care to hazard a guess re: the diapers?

01:53:31 asciilifeform: u.s. army snipers have been known to wear them, now that i recall.

01:53:49 bounce: didn't that stalking astronaut get caught with diapers due to long drive?

01:54:25 BingoBoingo: the diapers are probably a cargo cult thing, because the pros do it that way

01:54:37 TheNewDeal: So on bitbet, I know if you send a tx to an address for an open bet, the address is reserved for you for the entirety of the bet. But is the addr supposed to hold the btc until the bet closes, or no?

01:54:38 asciilifeform: that's the intended implication, at any rate.

01:55:20 BingoBoingo: But if you are driving a car around the backwoods under the cover of night, use the fucking headlights

01:55:35 asciilifeform: 'The Monroe County District Attorney's Office filed 15 search warrants since the hunt for Frein began about two weeks ago to search various buildings, but Bivens declined to comment on the warrants.'

01:55:39 asciilifeform: aha now some meat.

01:56:32 asciilifeform: 'The Monroe County District Attorney's Office filed 15 search warrants since the hunt for Frein began about two weeks ago to search various buildings, but Bivens declined to comment on the warrants. He acknowledged the substantial, and growing, cost to state and federal agencies.'

01:56:48 asciilifeform: anyone here ever read eric frank russell's 'wasp' ?

01:57:00 asciilifeform: damn broken paste

01:57:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12813 @ 0.0007472 = 9.5739 BTC [-] {2}

01:57:13 asciilifeform: 'Bivens estimated that the force hunting Frein has included the "high hundreds to 1,000" members of law enforcement agencies.'

01:57:36 BingoBoingo: For all we know Frein is just a Richard Jewell who has simply retreated to jack off in the woods for a few weeks and has no idea what is going on.

01:58:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4690 @ 0.00074826 = 3.5093 BTC [+]

01:58:29 bounce: they're having a field day, then

02:00:01 bounce: I suspect an expert would gather a few good trackers and catch the guy in a week with ~30 people or so.

02:00:12 decimation: asciilifeform: so I tried to install gentoo in a vm last night, was disappointed that it wanted me to install systemd. apparently one should install 'minimal' and then bootstrap software stack

02:00:33 asciilifeform: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/26/diaper-sniper-eric-frein_n_5887694.html

02:00:34 assbot: Eric Frein Manhunt: 'Diaper Sniper' Reportedly Phoned Parents (LIVE UPDATES)

02:00:37 asciilifeform: ^ svd!

02:00:54 asciilifeform: decimation: the fortress falls!

02:01:42 asciilifeform: decimation: although - wiki indicates is optional. did you ask for 'gnome' and forgot?

02:02:03 decimation: no I installed 'kde' profile

02:02:17 decimation: in retrospect I should have installed hardened/minimal

02:02:35 asciilifeform: quite a few things have been trying to suck it in under the cover of 'dependencies'

02:02:48 decimation: if the guy is such a brilliant woodsman why is he leaving trash for others to find?

02:02:58 TheNewDeal: ;;bc,stats

02:02:58 asciilifeform: decimation: because he's fictional.

02:02:59 BingoBoingo: I might have to read 'Wasp'

02:03:01 gribble: Current Blocks: 322863 | Current Difficulty: 3.466142592397694E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 324575 | Next Difficulty In: 1712 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 5 days, 7 hours, 35 minutes, and 49 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 33502089229.0 | Estimated Percent Change: -3.34475

02:03:08 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: wasp << highly recommended.

02:03:17 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: especially for you.

02:03:28 decimation: asciilifeform: yeah that appears to be the situation. I don't understand how a gui desktop 'requires' a particular init system

02:03:38 asciilifeform: decimation: because... and this reminds me:

02:03:53 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, others who know who flondor was

02:03:55 BingoBoingo: decimation: systemd temps the desktop systems with login handling

02:03:59 asciilifeform: perhaps it is time for a lustration list.

02:04:02 decimation: although according to the boycottsystemd webpage, it sounds like systemd 'wants' to take over much of unix userland

02:04:04 asciilifeform: kept, possibly, in the deeds register

02:04:39 asciilifeform: of all the sniveling shilling shits who took part in hearbleed insertion, propagation of 'systemd', the like.

02:05:17 asciilifeform: these people are walking around, alive, and worst of all - continuing to churn out code. which unwitting chumps will actually use.

02:05:21 decimation: I nominate http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lennart_Poettering

02:05:21 assbot: Lennart Poettering - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

02:05:38 decimation: pulseaudio, systemd, avahi, all turds

02:05:41 asciilifeform: it's time for the 'nazi playing cards'

02:05:45 asciilifeform: with names, faces.

02:06:37 asciilifeform: lennart p. isn't even a top candidate for the playing cards, because just about everyone already knows what he is.

02:06:46 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> although the arse grenade (if he has any brains, has one) probably chafes. << why ?

02:06:58 mircea_popescu: what's the most they're going to do ? pay 20k a year for his support ?

02:07:08 asciilifeform: the hidden little shitgnomes like author of heartbleed - they are the ones who needs the lethal sunlight rays the most.

02:07:38 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: notice i said 'arse grenade' not 'cyanide tooth.'

02:08:01 bounce: you think heartbleed was intentional?

02:08:02 asciilifeform: specifically in light of the historic re-enactment role he's supposedly playing.

02:08:18 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> what's the most they're going to do ? pay 20k a year for his support ? << Incarceration, especially at the federal level is rarely so inexpensive for the jailers

02:08:19 asciilifeform: bounce:

02:08:21 asciilifeform: !s miracles

02:08:21 assbot: 46 results for 'miracles' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=miracles

02:08:31 decimation: asciilifeform: the next step: somehow get a unix distribution that completely excludes contributions from the lustration list

02:08:37 asciilifeform: decimation: yes.

02:08:58 kakobrekla: and then we can start pretending.

02:09:19 asciilifeform: bounce: i posit that it must be presumed intentional. the shitgnomes hide behind the impossibility of logically proving their guilt.

02:10:40 decimation: the problem is that nearly all hardware vendors would be on the list too

02:10:52 asciilifeform: decimation: gotta start somewhere.

02:11:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12960 @ 0.0007495 = 9.7135 BTC [+]

02:11:38 bounce: we could use better hardware, too

02:11:47 asciilifeform: decimation: at the moment, proven, proud, unrepentant вредители are 'respected faces of the komyooniti', doing as they please.

02:12:16 bounce: but an overly large list would be counter-productive; a valid concern.

02:12:19 kakobrekla: nah. basically everyone should just drop their keyboards and stop coding until there exists a platform where not guilty by default (of using it)

02:13:07 kakobrekla: dare to continue as is, you will, sooner or later, find yourself on the list.

02:13:32 decimation: kakobrekla: a worthy dream, but the problem is that if everyone did that, then nobody would make such a platform

02:13:42 *: bounce didn't catch on to hiding behind lame excuses with the openssl folks, but if so that ought to be enough to get the s/w booted entirely, not just revamped.

02:14:14 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: if the item i am presently working on is not easily provable honest to an educated reader, then i will deserve to be placed on the list.

02:14:45 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: and, in fact, should be presumed dead, and the fellow walking around with my key - ought to go on list.

02:14:49 bounce: tangentially, shouldn't it be feasible to get decent performance out of a suitably open-and-accessible-microcode cpu running on some fpga or other these days?

02:15:05 asciilifeform: bounce: all the extant fpga have tightly closed architecture

02:15:17 decimation: yeah there's a spectrum between 'honest mistake' and 'massive fuck-up'

02:15:19 asciilifeform: bounce: search channel logs re: at least three separate discussions of how this came to be

02:15:47 kakobrekla: and heres the fourth.

02:15:50 bounce: you'd at least have access from the gate design on up, already a bit more than COTS CPUs give you

02:16:22 decimation: bounce: ultimately you are still trusting the fpga maker

02:16:36 asciilifeform: bounce: nope. most fpga work is carried out in units considerably larger than 'gate', from considerations of efficiency.

02:16:46 asciilifeform: you get a supply of adders, shifters, multipliers, etc.

02:17:08 decimation: they have little 'units' of logic glued together, with a little look-up table to determine how each one functions

02:17:33 bounce: boo. oh well. back to ttl then (magic-1.org)

02:17:53 asciilifeform: the vendors (there are exactly two worth mentioning, 'xilinx' and 'altera' - the others sell miniscule turdlets, most often with zero linux toolchain support) also play fast & loose with the word 'gate'

02:18:02 asciilifeform: counting a shifter as 'xxx gates' worth

02:19:42 asciilifeform: fpga is still interesting

02:19:52 asciilifeform: partly because, the amount of damage a dishonest vendor can do is actually minimal

02:19:55 asciilifeform: as far as i can tell

02:20:07 asciilifeform: let's say you purchase an fpga from satan.

02:20:11 bounce: printable electronics getting closer, should be an interestin proof-of-concept though I wouldn't expect to even get full mipsen out of it.

02:20:19 bounce: s/tin/&g/

02:20:35 asciilifeform: bounce: 'printable' is a word you can safely place in your spam filter.

02:21:11 asciilifeform: it's a leper's bell for grantsmanship and chumpatronics of the most tedious sort.

02:21:54 asciilifeform: none of the 'printing' brouhaha places integrated circuit any closer to manufacture in your kitchen.

02:21:59 decimation: satan's fpga could have a bugged embedded cpu

02:22:03 asciilifeform: let's say it does.

02:22:06 asciilifeform: now what.

02:22:33 decimation: satan would have to know a great deal about you design

02:22:37 asciilifeform: yes.

02:22:48 decimation: satan would give up and bug the toolchain

02:23:01 asciilifeform: in fact, even if satan lifts the entire netlist of your design, he will have to sweat a great deal to understand which bits to flip.

02:23:17 decimation: thatnisntrue

02:23:30 asciilifeform: if satan is merely listening to your i/o, this is a listening device in the ordinary sense, and not really fpga-specific diddling

02:23:33 decimation: heh s/n/ /

02:24:59 asciilifeform: likewise, when people ponder 'chip boobytraps' they are normally thinking of a one-transistor turdlet that creates an 'evil instruction' or whatnot

02:25:21 asciilifeform: an unexpected cpu in the middle of fpga LUT fabric would stand out even under optical microscope.

02:25:26 asciilifeform: so the turd has to be subtle

02:25:45 asciilifeform: what can one accomplish on fpga, knowing nothing about your opponent's future purpose for it, with a small turd ?

02:25:59 asciilifeform: (i don't insist there is no interesting answer to this question, just confess that i don't know one)

02:26:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 46803 @ 0.00074671 = 34.9483 BTC [-] {2}

02:27:00 decimation: yeah point taken. presumably satan will have your netlist anyway, if you want your part to be open to inspection

02:27:00 asciilifeform: i can take an educated guess, however.

02:27:07 asciilifeform: it is virtually impossible now to buy a pure fpga.

02:27:17 asciilifeform: almost always there are 'convenient' things rolled in - like pci-e support

02:27:21 asciilifeform: or sdram controllers

02:27:27 decimation: or serdes or cpu

02:27:30 asciilifeform: or.

02:27:59 asciilifeform: it would be fairly simple to include a pattern match for 'magic bus cycle' or 'magic instruction' on built-in-cpu that will, e.g., short supply to ground.

02:28:01 asciilifeform: release magic smoke

02:28:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7647 @ 0.00074656 = 5.7089 BTC [-] {2}

02:28:45 asciilifeform: to make long story short, there are exactly two vendors of 'high-density' fpga, and their products are almost exactly alike - more so even than 'coca cola' and 'pepsi.'

02:28:56 asciilifeform: both, afaik, market primarily to usg and subsidiaries

02:29:17 asciilifeform: 'xilinx' in particular brags of 'nsa certified' whatevers.

02:29:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23253 @ 0.00074645 = 17.3572 BTC [-] {2}

02:29:48 decimation: http://press.xilinx.com/2011-08-31-NSA-Approved-Defense-Grade-Spartan-6Q-FPGA-in-Production-for-Highest-Level-Cryptographic-Capabilities-Strengthens-Xilinx-Secure-Leadership

02:29:49 assbot: NSA Approved Defense-Grade Spartan-6Q FPGA in Production for Highest Level Cryptographic Capabilities Strengthens Xilinx Secure Leadership - Aug 31, 2011

02:29:54 asciilifeform: neither is 'open' in any sense whatsoever.

02:31:49 decimation: "Key to the NSA's approval is the ability of the Spartan-6Q device to isolate user functionality within a single device while maintaining tamper proofing. The NSA completed a fail-safe analysis effort on the Spartan-6Q family to confirm that the individual regions of the FPGA are isolated from each other in the event of failure. "

02:32:34 asciilifeform: decimation: understand that this had no bearing on usg-triggered surprises.

02:33:22 decimation: no, and I think that particular chip isn't available to regular humans

02:33:33 asciilifeform: decimation: yes, bureaucrats demand some electrical tests to show that 'black' won't short to 'red' by accident.

02:33:54 asciilifeform: decimation: available. 'ebay' for example.

02:33:58 asciilifeform: buy as many as you want.

02:34:36 mircea_popescu: soiled diapers, Serbian cigarettes <<< dude wtf.

02:35:09 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Official Truth holds that he's a ww2 reenactor gone off the spools

02:35:19 decimation: wow you can buy cheap fgpa dev boards on ebay

02:35:29 asciilifeform: decimation: i've never bought them anywhere else.

02:35:51 mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so you just take a piss.

02:35:58 mircea_popescu: why would you wear devices to make the piss cling to you ?!

02:36:03 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: u.s. army issues diapers. ask them - not me

02:36:29 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> why would you wear devices to make the piss cling to you ?! << This is why I suspect a bit of cargo cult happening

02:36:33 asciilifeform: mats_cd03 << did you wear them ?

02:36:54 decimation: it is amusing that ebay has effectively become 'amazon for shenzhen'

02:37:01 mats_cd03: yes

02:37:23 mircea_popescu: so there's this theatre right outside my windo, where a derpy guy does i dunno what dances.

02:37:32 asciilifeform: mats_cd03: what's the rationale for diapers ?

02:37:34 mircea_popescu: there's been teenage girl wailings pretty much non stop for an hour

02:37:39 mats_cd03: diapers + baby wipes are god's gift to men in the field

02:37:40 mircea_popescu: what the fuck, minor celebrity

02:37:42 kakobrekla: 'amazon for shenzhen' < isnt that aliexpress or smth

02:37:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.00074881 = 6.6644 BTC [+]

02:37:51 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 why would you wear diapers ?

02:37:53 mircea_popescu: the wipes i ee.

02:37:55 decimation: I guess I haven't used either of those

02:38:17 mats_cd03: my usual undergarments were soiled and crusty after 2 weeks in the field

02:38:20 decimation: whenever I load an alibaba page it makes me feel certain I'm about to be scammed

02:38:44 BingoBoingo: <kakobrekla> 'amazon for shenzhen' < isnt that aliexpress or smth << Basically the Alibabba thing gets its fame as where American small and medium businesses get their entire inventory

02:38:46 mats_cd03: worst part was... they were only crusty when they weren't being worn.

02:38:47 mircea_popescu: <bounce> I suspect an expert would gather a few good trackers and catch the guy in a week with ~30 people or so. << what trackers. this is 2014.

02:39:02 mats_cd03: turns right back into shit after a few hours

02:39:24 mats_cd03: its not really necessary. depends on the person

02:39:27 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 help me out here. so you wore the same underwear for two weeks,

02:39:34 mircea_popescu: and if you're going to do that, best make it pampers ?

02:39:50 decimation: http://meritbadge.org/wiki/index.php/Tracking "The Stalking merit badge was one of the original 57 merit badges issued by the Boy Scouts of America in 1911; it was discontinued in 1952."

02:39:51 assbot: Tracking (Centennial merit badge) - MeritBadgeDotOrg

02:40:03 mats_cd03: they're comfy man, i don't know what to say

02:40:08 mircea_popescu: decimation and they were never ver ygood at it either.

02:40:13 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 aite.

02:40:24 decimation: probably not, but they aren't even trying anymore

02:41:08 mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: yeah that appears to be the situation. I don't understand how a gui desktop 'requires' a particular init system <<< join the conga line heh.

02:41:40 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: it 'requires' whatever the shitgnomes place in the 'requires' list.

02:41:47 asciilifeform: that's - how.

02:41:49 decimation: what I find interesting is that systemd has become standard in redhat enterprise 7

02:41:50 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> kept, possibly, in the deeds register << feel free.

02:42:18 decimation: redhat enterprise is famous for have 5 year old revs of everything ... except new init script hotness?

02:42:18 asciilifeform: decimation: this is how you find them.

02:42:25 mircea_popescu: decimation look, the plan to turn open source into windows lite is proceeding apace.

02:42:41 asciilifeform: decimation: just as a cockroach in your kitchen means, inescapably, that not far from it there is a seething brown mass of his brothers.

02:43:17 mircea_popescu: avahi, incidentally, was an atrocious piece of shit

02:43:26 mircea_popescu: it's incredible anyone seriously takes its author for a coder.

02:43:44 asciilifeform: another heuristic that invariably tells us where to dig.

02:43:51 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> avahi, incidentally, was an atrocious piece of shit << But it copies the also compeltely unwanted Bonjour piece of shit so well

02:44:17 mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: the next step: somehow get a unix distribution that completely excludes contributions from the lustration list << i still think the correct solution is a github that does signed reads

02:44:23 mircea_popescu: then let people filkter it out by their own criteria.

02:44:29 mircea_popescu: we got the wot, let's use the wot.

02:44:35 asciilifeform: heuristic: 1) piece of shit? 2) mysteriously ubiquitous? 3) quickly? 4) author is socially connected to other derpers pushing similar items that match 1-4 ?

02:44:36 decimation: yeah I agree

02:44:48 decimation: 'filter software by all known contributors' would be useful

02:44:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform mind that heuristics don't work well when lustration lists are involved.

02:45:11 mircea_popescu: decimation not contributors. filter by the people who read and signed off on this code.

02:45:21 mircea_popescu: nobdy gives a shit about the author. writing software is like taking a shit, worthless.

02:45:25 TheNewDeal: ;;calc .00000001*3500

02:45:25 gribble: 3.5e-05

02:45:27 mircea_popescu: tasting othe rpeople's shit is a valued skill

02:45:28 asciilifeform: today - no list. today all we have is loud, proud enemy, bragging about his deeds

02:45:44 asciilifeform: not even pretending to bother to hide.

02:45:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform we got the infrastructure. the guilotine, so to speak, is built.

02:46:08 mircea_popescu: that derps prance around it and pretend to be making light of its powerlessness...

02:46:13 mircea_popescu: that's the privilege of sheep.

02:46:39 mircea_popescu: any pig may take a piss on the blade late december. whether he does or does not, come christmas...

02:46:47 decimation: right, for instance someone in redhat said "yes, let's use poettering's turd in our next distro'

02:47:05 mircea_popescu: <decimation> the problem is that nearly all hardware vendors would be on the list too << how i this a problem ?

02:47:07 bounce: you know, I've always had an instinctive disliking of avahi, without even having to read the code. some code really can smell right through everything.

02:47:29 mircea_popescu: bounce isn't it incredible how readily a circlejerk is formed

02:47:53 mircea_popescu: "great minds think alike and idiots seldom differ", was it.

02:47:57 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: guillotine << after years of searching, i finally found that ancient tale: http://www.asstr.org/files/Collections/snuffstories/Honda-Matic/TheVibrotine.html

02:48:08 mircea_popescu: asstraffoc ?!

02:48:23 asciilifeform: 'This gift certificate entitles the bearer to 1 (one) of our latest model of our most popular sexecution device the VibrotineTM 6000 GSP.'

02:48:27 asciilifeform: asstr where else

02:48:39 decimation: oh, poettering is employed by redhat - someone hired him

02:48:59 bounce: hard to tell who's doing the circle jerking though.

02:49:07 mircea_popescu: <bounce> but an overly large list would be counter-productive; a valid concern. << counterproductive in what sense ?

02:49:26 mircea_popescu: we have an ample overabundance of both humans and capital goods. why is excluding all the vendors or all the social mediated shitheads a cost ?

02:49:29 mircea_popescu: it's a benefit.

02:50:07 bounce: if you have unlimited procuring power and so can order whatever you want from whichever custom shop can deliver it

02:50:10 mircea_popescu: <kakobrekla> dare to continue as is, you will, sooner or later, find yourself on the list. << this is a valid concern.

02:50:36 asciilifeform: professional hazard of guillotine operation, yes.

02:50:45 TheNewDeal: whens the next #ba meetup?

02:50:55 Vexual: nao

02:50:56 mircea_popescu: * bounce didn't catch on to hiding behind lame excuses with the openssl folks, but if so that ought to be enough to get the s/w booted entirely, not just revamped. << it is.

02:51:04 decimation: oh, poettering is employed by redhat - someone hired hi

02:51:05 TheNewDeal: like the irl one

02:51:06 mircea_popescu: de raadt made the same call

02:51:13 mircea_popescu: $conference

02:51:14 empyex: mircea_popescu: Next conference starts in 6 months and 20 days. Estimated cost today: 3.27056492 BTC (Details: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-conference-third-edition/ )

02:52:35 bounce: well, not entirely. they started kicking out "cruft" but keeping the general structure and core code

02:52:36 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> bounce: search channel logs re: at least three separate discussions of how this came to be << you know, giving terms like "xilinx" is better than an empty search entreaty. he doesn't know what to search for.

02:52:48 asciilifeform: xilinx.

02:53:27 mircea_popescu: bounce it gets complicated, obviously. tbh i don't have atm an opinion on the libre thing

02:54:00 BingoBoingo: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/03/09/20_freescale_employees_missing_on_mh370/ << 0.o

02:54:01 assbot: 20 Freescale staff on vanished Malaysia Airlines flight MH370 The Register

02:54:45 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> counting a shifter as 'xxx gates' worth << how the fuck does that work. bit register shifting ?

02:54:57 bounce: ultimately the APIs it offers need to go since they're badly designed and tricky to use correctly. but you can't exactly do that for a drop-in replacement. this is a low-hanging fruit approach. though the new crew is IMO a better deal than throwing money at the guys that made such a mess of it, as google et al did.

02:55:00 decimation: BingoBoingo: some companies have rules about how many staff can travel on one flight

02:55:00 TheNewDeal: wasn't the last conference like 5 btc entry?

02:55:22 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: they could it as however many gates it is made of. and conveniently forget to mention that they can't be rewired using the switching matrix (only a rather smallish number of 'generic' gates can)

02:55:29 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal something like that. but that was in 2013.

02:55:30 asciilifeform: *count it as

02:55:34 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> bounce it gets complicated, obviously. tbh i don't have atm an opinion on the libre thing << My read. Watch the chopping for a year or two and see what happens.

02:55:36 Vexual: yeah, the costs of throwing a can of jolt at a $2000 lcd have gone up too, and you need better aim

02:55:44 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo quite.

02:56:01 TheNewDeal: vexual, what's the drink count at tonight?

02:56:02 mircea_popescu: not so smart making calls on babies, either. l;et them grow first.

02:56:42 bounce: the immediate risk is that they'll be insufferable for a goodly while.

02:57:04 asciilifeform: linked: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/07/15/megumi_igarashi_cuffed

02:57:04 assbot: Japanese artist cuffed for disseminating 3D ladyparts files The Register

02:58:16 mircea_popescu: still this boring woman ?

02:58:31 *: asciilifeform must have missed the first part, if 'still'

02:58:31 mircea_popescu: it's so sad to see the libertard behaviour trying to take hold in otherwise pleasant countries.

02:58:35 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> not so smart making calls on babies, either. l;et them grow first. << What I like about Deraadt is while Pottering came to make Lindows, De Raadt's came into *nix fascinated with process separation http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/10/07/1097089476287.html?oneclick=true

02:58:36 assbot: Staying on the cutting edge - Technology - theage.com.au

02:58:50 mircea_popescu: there's this failure that aspires to be an artist through pr.

02:58:58 mircea_popescu: she's been doing this for a while now.

02:58:59 asciilifeform: aha, 'pussy riots'

02:59:13 mircea_popescu: not even.

02:59:17 mircea_popescu: at least those are bangable.

02:59:23 mircea_popescu: this tard's like 50.

02:59:29 asciilifeform: !

02:59:30 asciilifeform: lol

02:59:46 mircea_popescu: nubile young women being too stupid to live is almost expected

02:59:51 mircea_popescu: definitely makes one suspicious if they aren't.

03:00:04 mircea_popescu: but by the age of infertility one'd expect even a libertard to wisen up a little.

03:00:07 asciilifeform: suspicious of what ?

03:00:22 mircea_popescu: that's not how suspicious works.

03:01:13 BingoBoingo: decimation: Interesting place to put a limit

03:01:54 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo, decimation: usg has a famous, traditional limit for number of top bureaucrats in one square km.

03:02:01 decimation: my personal opinion is that something bad happened on the jet, oxygen got sucked out before anyone could do much, becomes 'death ship'

03:02:53 decimation: has happened before http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helios_Airways_Flight_522

03:02:53 assbot: Helios Airways Flight 522 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

03:08:45 mats_cd03: asciilifeform: http://thedailyshow.cc.com/videos/qnk18t/we-may-have-problems--but-at-least-we-re-not-jailing-artists-for-3-d-printing-their-vaginas

03:08:45 assbot: We May Have Problems, But at Least We're Not Jailing Artists for 3-D Printing Their Vaginas - The Daily Show - Video Clip | Comedy Central

03:19:46 mats_cd03: i used to attend these sexual harassment briefings while in .mil

03:20:15 Vexual: dont take your diaper off in polite company?

03:20:17 mats_cd03: it would typically tend with the audience half-asleep, horrified, or angst-ridden

03:20:30 asciilifeform: mats_cd03: lol, they herded us (contractors) in for the claptrap, too

03:20:51 mats_cd03: topics included consent while inebriated, with the tag-line often being 'if you're drunk and she's drunk, neither of you can consent, so you're rapin each other up in here'.

03:20:56 asciilifeform: mats_cd03: the only funnier mandatory timewaster was the 'counter-intelligence' one

03:21:09 Vexual: meanwhile the japanese girl is advancing hydrodynamics without even trying

03:21:23 TomServo: 22:20.16 +mats_cd03 | it would typically tend with the audience half-asleep, horrified, or angst-ridden

03:21:35 mats_cd03: a contractor i worked with had a hearing implant

03:21:58 mats_cd03: he told me once he would sometimes tune the speakers out... such jealousy

03:22:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26800 @ 0.00074641 = 20.0038 BTC [-]

03:23:43 mats_cd03: there were a lot of those time wasters.

03:24:42 decimation: I had a friend who was white, married a black woman. he still had to go to the mandatory racial sensitivity class

03:24:52 mats_cd03: lets see... sexual harassment. counterintelligence. resilience. suicide prevention. equal opportunity.

03:26:37 mats_cd03: and of course... change of command ceremonies. weekend safety briefs. area beautification.

03:27:23 mats_cd03: they really don't cover the janitor/babysitter roles in the Army of One commercials.

03:27:32 asciilifeform: mats_cd03: glorious things. esp. when being marched in despite having no conceivable role in the proceedings.

03:27:58 mats_cd03: i developed a talent for checking out with my eyes open while standing up, though.

03:28:15 decimation: it seems to me that these are fundamentally religious in nature

03:28:52 mats_cd03: oops... not Army of One anymore. Be All You Can Be? nah that was before. i think its Army Strong now.

03:29:16 decimation: in ancient Rome the equivalent would be how to consult the entrails of a chicken to see if the gods are pleased

03:32:54 decimation: these whiners about bendy iphones are hilarious. we want our iphones paper thin but NOT BENDY!

03:34:19 mats_cd03: apple's burning cash building a new campus next to cupertino village

03:36:07 decimation: you know, if apple (and the rest of the silly-con valley band) really want to save money, why not relocate to des moines?

03:36:39 mats_cd03: because they've managed to create a talent vortex in SV

03:36:48 asciilifeform: why would they want to save money ?

03:36:53 mats_cd03: not a very good one, by some accounts, but still

03:37:06 decimation: asciilifeform: that gets to the root of the problem. I have no idea

03:37:11 asciilifeform: !s stotting

03:37:12 assbot: 2 results for 'stotting' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=stotting

03:37:27 decimation: why does zuckerberg want to beg usg for cheap slave labor?

03:38:11 Vexual: ;;date

03:38:11 gribble: Error: "date" is not a valid command.

03:38:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27268 @ 0.0007463 = 20.3501 BTC [-] {3}

03:39:28 mats_cd03: i thought it was about getting cheap, _excellent_ slave labor

03:39:43 mats_cd03: after all, universities in the us are just not producing the candidates they want

03:39:56 decimation: (at the price they like)

03:40:07 Vexual: cheap and subsidised are two different things

03:40:37 mats_cd03: i would not be surprised if 90% of us CS graduates are unemployable

03:40:50 Vexual: CS?

03:40:58 Vexual: oh

03:42:39 decimation: http://www.asee.org/papers-and-publications/publications/college-profiles/2011-profile-engineering-statistics.pdf

03:42:45 Vexual: yeah knowing what you want is the hardest part

03:43:14 decimation: the us only graduates ~15,000 b.s. degrees in electrical or computer engineering

03:43:24 Vexual: pa?

03:44:09 Vexual: and how many from 15k are worth a pinch of shit?

03:44:43 Vexual: pls interpret this infographic for me

03:45:10 decimation: well, for the price of one whatsapp, facebook could have hired 6 years worth of graduates, pay them each $100k salary and $100k to do something interesting

03:45:47 Vexual: ;;calc 6*15000

03:45:47 gribble: 90000

03:45:51 asciilifeform: !s merit washing

03:45:52 assbot: 11 results for 'merit washing' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=merit+washing

03:45:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21300 @ 0.00074619 = 15.8938 BTC [-]

03:46:19 decimation: ;;calc 90000*200e3

03:46:19 gribble: Error: unexpected EOF while parsing (<string>, line 1)

03:46:20 asciilifeform: ^ or propose another explanation for, e.g., reviving 1990s 'man in the iron mask' virtual oculars

03:46:24 decimation: ;;calc 90000*200000

03:46:24 gribble: 18000000000

03:47:08 decimation: asciilifeform: that's a pretty likely hypothesis

03:47:46 decimation: it would explain the derping for immigrants too, if one interprets as 'noblesse oblige'

03:55:15 Vexual: do they still do compuer science degrees?

03:56:10 asciilifeform: Vexual: which 'they' ? here - yes. (though, continuously diluted in the requirements)

03:56:25 Vexual: did you study computer science?

03:56:29 asciilifeform: yes.

03:56:41 Vexual: like 6 months of pascal with a pen?

03:57:02 decimation: Vexual: cs degrees were excluded by the earlier pdf, because it was focused on engineering

03:57:17 decimation: not that I could clearly delineate computer engineering and 'computer science'

03:57:18 asciilifeform: pascal was fashionable when i was in grade school, which is where it was taught

03:57:47 asciilifeform: (it was actually inflicted on my by sibling much earlier)

03:58:31 Vexual: and so you prolly enhanced your university with new concepts?

03:58:59 asciilifeform: ??

03:59:06 Vexual: advanced the cirriculem and all?

03:59:16 Vexual: were you good at it?

03:59:38 decimation: in my experience undergrads were generally ineligible to advance anything

03:59:52 decimation: they are the lowest members of the education bureaucracy

04:00:01 asciilifeform: undergrad - prey animal.

04:00:15 Vexual: hmm yes

04:01:30 *: asciilifeform suffered fair share of employment as undergrad research grunt of various stripes

04:01:48 *: asciilifeform cannot lay claim to 'advancing' anything

04:01:56 Vexual: busy is good

04:03:38 decimation: http://www.vox.com/2014/6/27/5846456/6-charts-pew-ideology << for those with an interest in usology (like sovietology)

04:03:38 assbot: 6 charts that show Republican vs. Democrat wildly oversimplifies American politics - Vox

04:05:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5434 @ 0.00074611 = 4.0544 BTC [-]

04:06:55 decimation: and this one. http://www.vox.com/2014/9/15/6131919/democrats-and-republicans-really-are-different "And they note that while voters tend to agree with Republicans on the philosophical questions in American politics (should government be smaller?) they tend to agree with Democrats on the policy questions in American politics (like should Social Security be smaller?)."

04:06:55 assbot: Why Democrats and Republicans dont understand each other - Vox

04:07:31 Vexual: phew, the other one reeked of family fued

04:08:28 decimation: yeah actually that was the wrong link, I wanted the second one. but both demonstrate voter stupidity

04:08:44 Vexual: yeah i still kinda like the frist one better

04:12:24 Vexual: 9 outta ten scienticians can't be wrong, peer reviews shit is an ice dice

04:16:23 Vexual: have you ever been included in bullshit research aciilifeform? i'd imagine youre kinda immune to that shit

04:16:38 asciilifeform: Vexual: included - sure.

04:17:06 Vexual: u don't mind?

04:17:20 mats_cd03: gotta eat.

04:17:24 asciilifeform: ^

04:17:38 decimation: as my links show, bullshit artistry runs the us

04:17:49 decimation: gotta kowtow to bullshit artists to make bezzlars

04:19:07 Vexual: meh it is what it is

04:24:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30400 @ 0.00074607 = 22.6805 BTC [-] {4}

04:25:30 Vexual: one can't prove anything on ones own anymore

04:27:26 Vexual: ^thats a vexualism; you can

04:31:50 Vexual: one can also accidentally fuck up an interesting conversation about fgpas by interjecting

04:38:09 Vexual: last time i attempted asm, i spilled my jolt

04:38:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28082 @ 0.00074728 = 20.9851 BTC [+] {2}

04:42:32 Vexual: ;;ud piss poor

04:42:32 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=piss%20poor | 1)im gonna be piss poor this month since i spent all my paycheck on crack. 2)I hired someone to paint my car but they did a piss poor job. by mullett December ...

04:43:09 Vexual: i made a piss poor attempt

04:47:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1Td8AFRXWA

04:51:27 Vexual: https://v.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/EB36C1962D1109119524013539328_2cf749e85a9.1.0.7333471040458587697.mp4?versionId=OXvIqDK2K9bHQMeDaUdCqJnd01rEpsZn

04:55:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7206 @ 0.00074749 = 5.3864 BTC [+]

05:02:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 40470 @ 0.0007491 = 30.3161 BTC [+] {4}

05:02:59 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8tODhvb47s

05:03:43 Vexual: ;;search dcc

05:03:43 gribble: There were no matching configuration variables.

05:03:50 *: xanthyos

05:10:14 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7qQ6_RV4VQ

05:10:35 Vexual: whats not viking

05:10:47 Vexual: hi ragnar

05:16:03 RagnarDanneskjol: hi

05:17:14 Vexual: what say you?

05:17:41 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPA68htGxk

05:19:15 RagnarDanneskjol: whats the name of that band you posted video a few weeks ago. dopey looking guys 80s band on top of a hotel - i recognized them but forgot. good song i hadnt heard in decades

05:19:38 Vexual: happy mondays, the mans name is sean ryder

05:19:39 RagnarDanneskjol: maybe very early 90s, but i thing late 80s

05:19:43 RagnarDanneskjol: thats it

05:19:46 Vexual: yeqah

05:30:12 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPIIlm24-lk

05:34:58 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pROPMG471GQ

05:36:33 BingoBoingo: http://www.27bslash6.com/interviews.html

05:36:33 assbot: "How is this an issue? Just ask ten fucking interview questions."

05:36:34 Vexual: this requies input mircea_popescue

05:38:35 Vexual: that smells like fidonet

05:40:46 Vexual: excepting verboser

05:41:25 Vexual: what did you do today?

05:43:33 BingoBoingo: Not too much

05:45:41 Vexual: were you holding a shovel?

05:49:53 BingoBoingo: Nah

05:51:08 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gDch1p4c_M

05:53:30 mats_cd03: soylent tastes like sawdust

05:53:41 mats_cd03: you heard it here first

05:54:21 Vexual: most asseteers are inedible

05:55:57 mats_cd03: i take pride in being inedible to most predators

05:56:12 Vexual: ;;seen dub

05:56:13 gribble: dub was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 2 hours, 7 minutes, and 20 seconds ago: <dub> 50 types of forcemeat the soviet dream

05:56:22 Vexual: yum

05:57:38 mats_cd03: on the subject of eating people, the new Hannibal is incredible and you should all watch it

05:57:55 cazalla: tv series?

05:58:07 mats_cd03: ya hbo

06:00:57 BingoBoingo: !up PPVKIGNX

06:02:04 Vexual: jack nick shoulda been hannibal lector

06:04:31 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACUCVTH6f0g

06:07:31 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCb6UkQ_AnM

06:10:19 BingoBoingo: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/ferguson-officer-wounded-after-confronting-burglars-suspects-remain-at-large/article_21e165ad-1f7f-5ae8-b30a-fb9d9dc40afe.html

06:10:19 assbot: Ferguson officer wounded after confronting burglars; suspects remain at large : News

06:12:07 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TbW1srpjZc

06:17:15 Vexual: fuck i love rodregiuz

06:19:26 Vexual: new neil blomkamph flick ist soon too

06:20:21 Vexual: welcommin to der future kids

06:23:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26200 @ 0.00074806 = 19.5992 BTC [-] {3}

06:28:16 Vexual: ;;google chappie title sequence

06:28:16 gribble: Chappie Title Sequence on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/90799918; Videos about “neill blomkamp” on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/tag:neill+blomkamp; WTJ* on Vimeo: http://vimeo.com/album/2597253

06:32:22 Vexual: http://vimeo.com/84731939

06:36:21 RagnarDanneskjol: http://youtu.be/0c3d7QgZr7g

06:36:21 assbot: Ted Nugent - Stranglehold - YouTube

06:37:25 Vexual: now were rocking

06:39:26 RagnarDanneskjol: i forget how great a guitar playr he is

06:45:33 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YCjspyo-_aI

06:46:16 Vexual: stolen

06:46:35 mircea_popescu: <decimation> my personal opinion is that something bad happened on the jet, oxygen got sucked out before anyone could do much, becomes 'death ship' << <nah trhey have a whole system with masks etc.

06:47:21 Vexual: its the boss

06:47:32 BingoBoingo: %v

06:47:33 atcbot: [X-BT VWAP] Bid: 198 Ask: 266 Last Price: 198 30d-Vol: 152k 30d-High: 266 30d-Low: 170 30d-VWAP: 190

06:48:28 mircea_popescu: <mats_cd03> i developed a talent for checking out with my eyes open while standing up, though. << this has been a 100 year tradition

06:49:37 mircea_popescu: <decimation> asciilifeform: that gets to the root of the problem. I have no idea << this is like proposing that the show moves out of town to save on props. the town is the show. the props are just the props.

06:53:44 *: Vexual :the sommelier with the brand enema

06:54:58 Vexual: you only pay once

06:57:29 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buG9fXAM0II

06:58:56 Vexual: half price for brazilian firewater

07:01:11 Vexual: end ejext

07:02:07 Vexual: comic timing and the rhyming while were priming

07:03:17 Vexual: shit chutes ready for skin flutes

07:04:43 Vexual: champagne to order the pain

07:06:38 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH3Q_CZy968 blondie ist loud

07:13:15 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8MWdyM_nSw

07:23:36 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6JYzOjglBs

07:34:51 Vexual: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J92g7LKkZ1I

07:40:43 Vexual: ;;seen cazalla

07:40:43 gribble: cazalla was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 hour, 42 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <cazalla> tv series?

07:40:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19850 @ 0.00074958 = 14.8792 BTC [+] {2}

07:41:37 Vexual: !s cazalla dcc

07:41:38 assbot: 2 results for 'cazalla dcc' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cazalla+dcc

07:41:38 RagnarDanneskjol: Vexual -can you see log webpage/

07:42:04 Vexual: no

07:42:26 RagnarDanneskjol: ok me neither, flushed dns still no

07:46:19 Vexual: so this ceo of digital btc, his parents bth work nasa

07:46:39 Vexual: and weh he buy bitmain he dont dhl

07:46:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6205 @ 0.00075009 = 4.6543 BTC [+]

07:47:01 Vexual: he also dont fly himself but he but jet fuel

07:51:29 Vexual: company is worth more than friedcats and he doesnt even trade dollars

07:51:53 Vexual: ex coke habit

07:58:48 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFHjt4bY6VY

08:04:03 mircea_popescu: !up RPrpRP

08:04:18 mircea_popescu: !up RPrpRP

08:05:13 RPrpRP: good morning

08:05:28 RPrpRP: I am from reddit police, investigating vote manipulation

08:05:31 Vexual: RPrpRP: whatsup fool

08:05:55 Vexual: spamming cunts with threats?

08:06:18 Vexual: you're from reddit?

08:06:48 RPrpRP: our trained experts who come from many different agencies, including ShitRedditSays, SubredditDrama and TumblrInAction take offense to your criticism of reddit

08:06:58 RPrpRP: and vote manipulation

08:07:11 Vexual: why are you telling me?

08:07:23 Vexual: u redditarded?

08:07:30 RPrpRP: nah i'm goat.

08:08:45 Vexual: have you herd of me?

08:09:44 RPrpRP: no

08:09:54 fluffypony: shit just got SRS.

08:10:49 RagnarDanneskjol: ahaha

08:11:38 mircea_popescu: RPrpRP are you the kid with the wordpress trackback list i published yest ?

08:12:34 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/o-hai-let-me-wanna-be/ << this, specifically.

08:12:34 assbot: 404 Not Found

08:13:05 RPrpRP: derp yes

08:13:14 Vexual: :0

08:13:40 mircea_popescu: so get in the wot and stop being dorky ?

08:14:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AfbgRBaEsfo

08:15:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5700 @ 0.0007512 = 4.2818 BTC [+]

08:15:24 RPrpRP: i don't think fraudsters is "unaffected"

08:15:53 *: Vexual learn affect

08:16:00 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla hey is britney being molested ?

08:16:02 fluffypony: u wot m8

08:16:25 BingoBoingo: Oh is a website being DDos'd

08:19:15 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYf2Dh71RgY

08:23:11 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

08:23:13 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 400.0, Best ask: 400.36, Bid-ask spread: 0.36000, Last trade: 400.0, 24 hour volume: 5354.10535340, 24 hour low: 396.57, 24 hour high: 408.67, 24 hour vwap: 401.689673307

08:23:22 mircea_popescu: time for another above 400 bet ?

08:23:55 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZD982yrmx4 ill take 440

08:27:56 Vexual: people liquidating assets learns em

08:30:38 cazalla: random article i'm reading " I have rarely encountered hostility, although one person from Romania asked me to sterilize myself."

08:30:53 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CQLAhNlbfQ forwhoeverthefuckaskedboutit

08:31:03 cazalla: Vexual, i'm not really following dcc closely, just read the ann that come out on asx

08:31:20 mircea_popescu: !up Kuba1234

08:31:49 Vexual: i had a look, the cats a bit mental

08:31:58 mircea_popescu: cazalla in some culture that's friendly not hostile.

08:32:32 Vexual: shits pumin on asx

08:32:54 cazalla: mircea_popescu, in Romanian culture?

08:33:05 mircea_popescu: hehe no.

08:33:09 Vexual: hes actually got a fine business model

08:33:24 cazalla: Vexual, he comes across as scammy as fuck imo

08:33:51 Vexual: he speds more on jet fuel than dcc

08:35:11 Vexual: bought a lambourghini with internet moeny too

08:35:44 Vexual: but his public facing stuff lokks okay

08:35:44 BingoBoingo: !up RPrpRP

08:37:14 cazalla: so these massage adverts online, are you meant to read between the lines when it says not a sexual service?

08:37:35 cazalla: you know the sorta ones fronted by asians Vexual?

08:38:04 Vexual: yeah i kinda know the concept

08:38:42 cazalla: so are they legit massage or topless asian student gives ya a handy massage?

08:38:56 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Dtu-EGtZpc

08:39:04 Vexual: what the hell are you asking me?

08:39:17 cazalla: asking anyone really

08:39:27 cazalla: but given you're down under, figured you might know

08:39:39 mircea_popescu: cazalla if you're going there for a massage you get a massage. if you're going there for a blowjob you get a blowjob

08:39:49 mircea_popescu: service industry.

08:40:11 Vexual: i get drunk and relax my muscles nightly

08:40:35 cazalla: i guess i'll just pick one and see what happens

08:40:56 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw you ever heard of the exploits of one Yevno Azef ?

08:45:18 RPrpRP: http get flood is boring, i am recalling my troops and going back to masturbating on gonewild and discussing how much weed i smoke on /r/trees

08:45:55 Vexual: onya becky

08:46:46 RPrpRP: mircea_popescu, won't attack you again if you don't post this attack's logs

08:47:40 mircea_popescu: so he's attacking me and he's the one with the liability ? wtf is wrong with kids today.

08:48:15 Vexual: script kiddy doesnt mean what it once did

08:48:20 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/331XTDA.txt )

08:48:20 BingoBoingo: !b 2

08:51:21 Vexual: you're not a script kiddie til vex is your step dad

08:52:11 Vexual: and your younger brother is invariably better at everything

08:54:20 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVJag-TBCk8

08:55:11 Vexual: derp

08:59:49 Vexual: densron

09:03:27 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YPCdJbZYXo

09:07:20 mircea_popescu: so the latest revision of the dsm crapolade actually lists relationship ~intensity~ as a clinical pathology.

09:08:02 mircea_popescu: always fascinating what extremes idiots will go to before owing to their idiocy.

09:08:29 Vexual: what number?

09:08:57 mircea_popescu: pick any number.

09:09:22 Vexual: well ill double the number of goats i can peel a day

09:09:39 Vexual: multiply it by some other number

09:10:20 Vexual: rub in some bullshit

09:11:07 Vexual: acety2

09:12:14 Vexual: ?

09:13:24 mircea_popescu: "Programmers have indeed created a universe where "science doesn't work." Learning where the permanent bugs and workarounds are inside a phonebook-length API teaches you nothing. It is anti-knowledge. Where your mind could have instead held something lastingly useful or truly beautiful, there is now garbage."

09:13:35 mircea_popescu: wow hn people can actually phrase ? who knew.

09:13:37 mircea_popescu: !up phlurker

09:13:55 mircea_popescu: o wait, it's really stan. nm.

09:14:13 mircea_popescu: i was thinking wtf, AND linking loper.os, what world is this

09:15:22 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8100 @ 0.00075093 = 6.0825 BTC [-]

09:17:07 Vexual: 0 day 1

09:18:28 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umyv4ETrV5E

09:21:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10795 @ 0.00075093 = 8.1063 BTC [-]

09:22:12 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHglhwcwO8I

09:26:13 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQBCJIEnQJM

09:30:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19100 @ 0.00074991 = 14.3233 BTC [-] {2}

09:31:30 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nMkHt37iCc

09:37:17 Vexual: ;;seen ben_vuples

09:37:17 gribble: I have not seen ben_vuples.

09:37:35 Vexual: ;;seen tacos

09:37:35 gribble: I have not seen tacos.

09:38:56 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrCrDaKqS9s

09:45:32 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UWWWbwc-ag

09:55:26 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QfsRd0h4Ts

09:59:54 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wtncm2yzUE

10:03:29 RagnarDanneskjol: !up RagnarsBitch

10:06:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUGlWCCVA4M

10:10:25 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=947tGsiv4lQ

10:16:40 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABxlQkIOfmA

10:21:08 Vexual: conceding after all of these years https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lFxGBB4UGU

10:25:49 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-q4foLKDlcE

10:30:44 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2wJS3zRx1I

10:37:28 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaFiT1ETGHM

10:44:18 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eh44QPT1mPE

10:50:24 Vexual: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3Jv9fNPjgk

10:50:45 Vexual: verily

10:54:14 Vexual: im so devo 10 played that first

11:16:53 danielpbarron: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/

11:24:15 cazalla: short log today eh

11:39:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15750 @ 0.00074775 = 11.7771 BTC [-]

11:47:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16332 @ 0.00074775 = 12.2123 BTC [-]

11:55:19 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

11:55:26 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 398.94, vol: 5199.93388741 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 389.994, vol: 2016.30476 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 397.29, vol: 7761.3600613 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 393.966432, vol: 24654.47510000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 449.99592, vol: 10.16926916 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 405.82451658, vol: 24.65397641 | Volume-weighted last average: 395.088529526

12:14:39 penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinassetsreception.wordpress.com/2014/09/28/summary-26-august-18-september/

12:21:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17000 @ 0.00074859 = 12.726 BTC [+]

12:33:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 776 @ 0.00074599 = 0.5789 BTC [-]

12:34:09 kakobrekla: britney is fine

12:38:48 fluffypony: LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE

12:40:37 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:41:03 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:45:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16719 @ 0.00074598 = 12.472 BTC [-] {2}

12:46:38 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:46:42 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:46:45 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

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12:46:56 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:46:57 assbot: xmj +v failed; L1: 0, L2: -1

12:59:25 kakobrekla: lol

12:59:35 kakobrekla: !up xmj

12:59:44 kakobrekla: ah

13:00:04 kakobrekla: so much for snr

13:03:51 punkman: the butthurt

13:06:29 punkman: https://groups.google.com/d/msg/rec.arts.int-fiction/xdrolY_vO7U/0aOMjaJmtM4J

13:06:31 assbot: Google Groups

13:09:16 kakobrekla: ;;later tell mike_c ping

13:09:16 gribble: The operation succeeded.

13:11:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.00074598 = 6.6019 BTC [-]

13:15:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14400 @ 0.00074881 = 10.7829 BTC [+] {2}

13:27:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13850 @ 0.00075026 = 10.3911 BTC [+]

13:33:37 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00075022 = 18.6805 BTC [-] {2}

13:35:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10550 @ 0.00075026 = 7.9152 BTC [+]

14:36:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27700 @ 0.0007509 = 20.7999 BTC [+] {2}

14:47:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8750 @ 0.00075111 = 6.5722 BTC [+]

15:27:13 thestringpuller: ;;ticker

15:27:14 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 388.0, Best ask: 389.2, Bid-ask spread: 1.20000, Last trade: 389.2, 24 hour volume: 7551.87763474, 24 hour low: 387.88, 24 hour high: 403.99, 24 hour vwap: 397.782235424

15:27:20 thestringpuller: finally

15:31:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26223 @ 0.00075118 = 19.6982 BTC [+] {4}

15:35:29 mircea_popescu: %d

15:35:31 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 1878190.93 Est. Next Diff: 302829.12 in 737 blocks (#46368) Est. % Change: -83.88

15:50:35 kakobrekla: ... "Notice: Undefined variable: c " ...

15:50:45 kakobrekla: i thought c was well defined

16:03:42 mircea_popescu: heh

16:04:45 mats_cd03: im seeing a lot of rabble rousing over democracy in hk from my WoT

16:04:59 mats_cd03: poor delusional peoples

16:05:33 thestringpuller: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/09/25/marc-andreessen-sounds-warning-on-start-ups-burning-cash/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

16:05:52 mats_cd03: whatever happens, the party has the wealth and patience to wait them out...just like with taiwan

16:07:32 mats_cd03: theres even a ribbon now! wear a yellow ribbon, for democracy in hong kong.

16:13:13 mircea_popescu: !up ethX

16:13:40 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 yeah hk sovereignity is a doomed proposition

16:20:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2950 @ 0.00075049 = 2.2139 BTC [-]

16:23:39 chetty: http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/28/how-chinas-one-child-policy-is-setting-nation-up-for-economic-crisis/

16:23:39 assbot: How China's One-Child Policy Is Setting Nation Up for Economic Crisis

16:25:13 mats_cd03: setting up for invasion maybe

16:25:46 mats_cd03: an aggressive china would be interesting to see...what would they take first?

16:25:54 mircea_popescu: doubt they really need to. besides, they're playing this game of humiliating the us,

16:26:03 mircea_popescu: where they don't need to invade places to win.

16:26:07 mircea_popescu: so far it's working splendidly.

16:27:51 mats_cd03: all those young men though.

16:28:40 mircea_popescu: which ?

16:28:46 mats_cd03: i guess there are going to be a lot of gay chinese men in that generation

16:29:40 mircea_popescu: you're using some sort of prior here im not privy to. say wut ?

16:30:07 chetty: lots of 'extra' men makes for good wars

16:30:25 mircea_popescu: it could.

16:30:48 mircea_popescu: china is traditionally a sort of dog vomit (the fungus). it doesn't really war.

16:32:32 chetty: dont think the issue of lots of extra menn has come up before, might twist traditions a bit

16:32:38 mircea_popescu: true

16:36:10 chetty: wow, there might actually be something new under the sun

16:36:15 mats_cd03: a society designed for rigor mortis, in some ways

16:37:04 bounce: meh. I thought that china /wanted/ a smaller population which naturally includes a smaller workforce. so how that's now a problem eludes me. unless "economic growth" is part of your religion, perhaps.

16:38:22 mircea_popescu: bounce you will have to appreciate idiot western peoples, even without any help from the propaganda machine, automatically interpret phenomena in a certain key.

16:38:56 mircea_popescu: so you know, arab women are unhappy because they don't live in the downtown on foodstamps, which has to be better than what they got because what else is the speaker doing there ?!

16:39:15 mircea_popescu: and certainly the chinese have "problems" they never heard of. similarly to how putin "doesn't understand how reality works".

16:43:53 chetty: well the age spread of the population may cause some issues, even if you ignore economic growth

16:44:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18550 @ 0.00075141 = 13.9387 BTC [+]

16:44:51 bounce: on another note, we've had quite a lot of skillfully-hidden-in-the-numbers inflation that's well above the official growth rates. thus depleting both savings and hiding an effective economic decline

16:46:19 bounce: also, we are running headlong into the aging workforce problem now; china has a while to fix it and by that time can steal all those smart carebots the japanese are building

16:46:41 chetty: lmao, not so hidded, unless you tend to believe usg published numbers

16:46:54 bounce: I think china's sitting prettier than we are.

16:47:02 chetty: s/hidden

16:47:19 mircea_popescu: bounce china is sitting prettier than everyone for the very simple reason that it has the absolute lead in all technology.

16:47:31 mircea_popescu: it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane.

16:48:01 bounce: if by "lead" meaning "has a copy of the plans and can cherry-pick the ones that work", yes

16:48:03 mircea_popescu: moreover if it does, it can pay cash.

16:48:29 mircea_popescu: no, i mean the us has transferred all its technology there in exchange for cheap labour but under condition it shares the tech

16:48:35 mircea_popescu: whereas china has not nor will ever do the same.

16:48:55 mircea_popescu: if you pour from a to b but never from b to a, you can bet your ears b's gonna be fuller.

16:49:30 mats_cd03: an interesting theory

16:49:36 mircea_popescu: quite far from a theory, this.

16:49:57 mircea_popescu: observable phenomena for > 30 years by now.

16:50:27 bounce: at the same time they have a serious plaggiarism problem (they copied "publish or perish" too, bwahahaha) so long term they're risking stagnation

16:50:30 mats_cd03: you perceive the flow isn't imperceptibly happening in the other direction, too

16:50:38 mircea_popescu: and china is liable to continue on the course that brought it success, humbly begging for what it wants, rather than suddenly swich to the course that sunk the us.

16:50:55 mircea_popescu: even if the us imagines that now that china has the better car it should drive it the same way it drove its own, right into a wall.

16:51:13 mircea_popescu: china's parents woudn't approve, and moreover china doesn't want to be either stupid or in possesison of a car wreckage.

16:51:45 mircea_popescu: bounce perhaps not very creative, yes. perhaps that may matter. if it will, it won't be this century.

16:51:57 mircea_popescu: the romans lived a millenium out of carefuly implementing the greek ideas.

16:52:12 chetty: inventiveness is not a high point of china, doubt they will come up with any new ideas

16:52:16 mircea_popescu: careful management and patient attention is good enough for a lifetime.

16:52:59 mircea_popescu: chetty i will tell you one new idea they came up with. they made the astoundingly daring move of organising their defense on sane grounds. china is surrounded by about a million rockets.

16:53:18 mircea_popescu: there's no way to effectualy destroy these, and there's no way the us aircraft carriers could survive an hour in a hostile china sea.

16:53:23 bounce: it'll be a while but it'll be stuck a goodly while too. a thousand years of stagnation they've already had.

16:53:25 mircea_popescu: that's novel enough for their needs.

16:54:07 chetty: well I wouldnt call it novel, but it does seem they read history better than most

16:54:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13650 @ 0.00075146 = 10.2574 BTC [+] {2}

16:54:22 mircea_popescu: (and europe pushing china out of their galileo thing was incredibly stupid, but then again europe is chiefly remembered in history for astounding stupidity)

16:54:34 mircea_popescu: chetty see ? what's in a novelty.

16:54:43 mircea_popescu: people can get by for a while just making good use of the history book.

16:55:19 mats_cd03: the memory of your enemy on your shores is something that stays vivid for a long time

16:56:41 mircea_popescu: bounce stagnation isn't as bad as you may think.

16:57:39 mats_cd03: ive been thinking about space exploration. are we going to carve up mars into nations? or, perhaps further into the future, every nation gets its own planet

16:57:52 bounce: in the current set-up with deliberate inflation it's... not a good idea.

16:58:00 mats_cd03: think of the experiments we could perform over millenia.

16:58:01 mircea_popescu: mats_cd03 are you aware mars is inhospitable ?

16:58:23 mats_cd03: yes

16:59:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14850 @ 0.00075141 = 11.1584 BTC [-]

16:59:25 mircea_popescu: so then why mars specifically ? why not real estate 5000 feet underground.

17:00:54 bounce: "off-site backups"

17:01:40 bounce: also, "reaching for the stars" is much more appealing than digging hobbit holes

17:02:23 chetty: people wont go 'to the stars' until they stop squabbling over pieces of pie on earth, ie never

17:02:25 mircea_popescu: that may well not matter hm ?

17:03:29 asciilifeform: off-planet is appealing precisely because of the cost, for enemy, of following you there.

17:04:06 mircea_popescu: stotting behaviour ?

17:04:15 asciilifeform: at least.

17:04:25 mircea_popescu: unless there's a hospitable planet somewhere,

17:04:39 mircea_popescu: or unless earth goes to shit to the degree of making mars look like freshly shaved virgin pussy

17:04:43 mircea_popescu: there's no stars bs.

17:05:10 mircea_popescu: you could live on the antarctic right now, if you fancy paying 2k for a bottle of fizz.

17:05:11 mats_cd03: close enough to menace earth and there might even be resources

17:05:23 asciilifeform: antarctic - not automatic sovereign.

17:05:25 mircea_popescu: fuck, you could live in that "gulch" real estate scam.

17:05:29 asciilifeform: within range of derps' weapons.

17:05:39 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform tell you what, you know what an indentured servant is ?

17:05:46 asciilifeform: certainly.

17:05:49 mircea_popescu: no way in fuck you're going to be a "sovereign" on a planet you just colonised.

17:05:59 mircea_popescu: unless you make your own crops and your own space stations...

17:06:04 mircea_popescu: think early us. what sovereign ?

17:06:04 asciilifeform: naturally

17:06:22 mircea_popescu: yes well, people don't undergo centuriesd of expense to fulfil a cartoon dream.

17:06:34 asciilifeform: interestingly, no one, afaik, has mentioned the solid prerequisite of fixing RuBisCo enzyme.

17:06:34 mircea_popescu: unless the planet is naturally hospitable, unless there's an angle somewhere, not happening.

17:07:26 *: asciilifeform has eyes, sees that it isn't happening, quite a few missing pieces with nowhere to come from

17:07:54 *: asciilifeform but definitely grasps the appeal

17:08:16 chetty: unless of course some friendly aliens drop in and give us a ride :D

17:08:59 bounce: notice how india got there for less budget than that movie. and less than a third of a single "cheap, reusable" shuttle launch

17:09:21 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the inescapable moral of story is that it is much cheaper to launch the rockets - horizontally - and clean up earth from pests

17:09:33 mats_cd03: i wonder if they used duct tape.

17:09:35 mircea_popescu: bounce right, "<mircea_popescu> it doesn't cost THEM fifty trillion to try and fail to build a new airplane."

17:09:58 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no need for rockets. you don't kill cockroaches with a .5

17:10:01 mircea_popescu: even if you have one.

17:10:12 bounce: nobody's complaining that dollars are buying so much less in the developed world, though

17:11:15 mircea_popescu: orly ?

17:15:12 mats_cd03: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/vatican-paedophilia-scandal-archbishop-jozef-wesolowski-stored-over-100000-child-porn-videos-1467410

17:15:12 assbot: Vatican Paedophilia Scandal: Archbishop Jozef Wesolowski Stored Over 100,000 Child Porn Videos

17:15:59 mats_cd03: highest ranking pedo ever

17:19:12 bounce: there's some outsourcing (and grumbling the work coming back is sub-par) and some grumbling about "jobs lost" and such. but the spacex thing is relatively recent, and I haven't really noticed much drive to cut the costs of the various wars being waged, for example. it's just... lower taxes, spend more, run up a bigger debt bill.

17:20:34 mircea_popescu: so nobody is complaining. like, i can hire someone for 2k a month because they won't complain.

17:20:43 mircea_popescu: i'll just say hey, 2k a month was plenty 20 years ago

17:20:47 mircea_popescu: and they'll say sure, ample.

17:23:50 bounce: what does the walmart employee make, across their three separate jobs minus the transport costs to get from one job to another? also, why do they have three jobs and still need food stamps?

17:23:52 chetty: http://dailysignal.com/2014/09/27/michelle-obama-wrong-trash-america-un/

17:23:52 assbot: Why Michelle Obama Was Wrong to Trash America at the UN

17:25:20 chetty: The next time Michelle Obama stands before an audience of countries where women are truly discriminated against?some forced to cover their entire bodies or have a male guardian with them in public?and complains that America struggles with ?harmful cultural norms that tell women how they are expected to look and act,? forgive me if I?m a little embarrassed.

17:25:27 mircea_popescu: how could michelle obama have been wrong ?!

17:25:33 mircea_popescu: don't these people know she';s black ?

17:25:35 mircea_popescu: AND a woman ?

17:25:41 mircea_popescu: fucking mysogyracists

17:36:22 ben_vulpes: interestingly, greenarrays now takes bitcoin

17:36:36 ben_vulpes: although, coinbase.

17:37:04 ben_vulpes: (which i learned recently is still running on the "i don't know how to server, guise" "PaaS" Heroku)

17:37:19 ben_vulpes: dafuq is strong with this one

17:38:20 mircea_popescu: lol

17:39:57 ben_vulpes: "arrayForth is a complete, interactive software development and debugging environment for GreenArrays Chips. It includes assembler/compiler, example source code including all ROM on each chip, a full software-level simulator for each chip, and an Interactive Development Environment for use with real chips. The latest release is configured by default for the EVB001 Evaluation Board, for which Virtual Machine support and other tools are

17:39:57 ben_vulpes: included. Follow this link to arrayForth Software Support for documentation and for fully functional downloadable software provided free of charge. "

17:40:28 ben_vulpes: one of these days i'll have the time to dig into these nutso forth chips

17:41:42 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> decimation ... filter by the people who read and signed off << i grow more convinced every day that the vast majority of people who write software cannot also read software

17:42:24 mircea_popescu: duh.

17:43:20 bounce: somewhat puzzling that perl isn't more popular *rimshot*

17:44:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26225 @ 0.00075108 = 19.6971 BTC [-] {3}

17:46:22 mircea_popescu: ka boosch

17:48:39 ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: soylent << http://survivorind.com/3600.html all the upside, none of the software derps killing people with atoms

17:50:08 mats_cd03: have you ever had ensure

17:50:45 ben_vulpes: the enpoopifier?

17:52:10 mats_cd03: perhaps

17:52:24 ben_vulpes: mats_cd03: i eat real food, but i'm fascinated with the people who insist on living like the poor humans kicked out of the Matrix

17:53:13 mats_cd03: there's a middle ground to be had

17:53:36 ben_vulpes: what was your point about ensure?

17:54:10 mats_cd03: nothing really, just curious if you've tried it

17:56:46 *: bounce has often enough wished for a nice "complete meal bar". rip open, munch, done with the food. though could never be arsed to go out and find something satisfying.

17:58:14 ben_vulpes: closest thing i've found is tacos.

17:58:26 mats_cd03: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/defence/11121843/Decorated-soldier-quits-army-saying-hes-sick-of-being-treated-like-an-idiot.html

17:58:26 assbot: Decorated soldier quits army saying he's sick of being 'treated like an idiot' - Telegraph

18:00:29 mats_cd03: not as thougg he stormed off the job like some clerk, but still. lol.

18:00:52 mats_cd03: *though

18:09:23 thestringpuller: soylent is people

18:09:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11900 @ 0.00075017 = 8.927 BTC [-]

18:17:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6800 @ 0.00075157 = 5.1107 BTC [+]

18:25:57 dignork: thestringpuller: soylent is a failed experiment - their final cost is higher than average food basket

18:27:01 dignork: i had to look it up, because I couldn't beleive they continue to market it as something that makes sense

18:49:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5250 @ 0.00075156 = 3.9457 BTC [-]

18:52:13 kakobrekla: http://www.righto.com/2014/09/mining-bitcoin-with-pencil-and-paper.html

18:52:13 assbot: Ken Shirriff's blog: Mining Bitcoin with pencil and paper: 0.67 hashes per day

18:57:12 ben_vulpes: i don't endorse this, but i am bringing it to your attention: http://straight.romansnitko.com/

18:57:12 assbot: Straight: an opensource Bitcoin payment gateway

19:04:38 dignork: ben_vulpes: "currently we use blockchain.info and helloblock.io to track the addresses and look up transactions"

19:05:36 kakobrekla: hell'o'block

19:05:42 ben_vulpes: hellablock

19:06:32 kakobrekla: so theres like a fuckton of blockchain readers with web 3.0 frontpage these days

19:07:10 ben_vulpes: roman snitko has a bitmessage address, but not a gpg key

19:07:15 ben_vulpes: fuh fuh fuh fail

19:15:19 mircea_popescu: lol

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