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00:00:09 RetroUpriser: ;;google best metal to cook with

00:00:10 gribble: EatingWell: What's the Best Pan to Cook With? - Huffington Post: ; Cookware Guide: The Best (And Worst) Materials For Pots And Pans: ; Hidden Dangers in Cookware - Happy Cooking Co: (1 more message)

00:00:14 BingoBoingo: Just can't use cast iron to make anything with tomatoes

00:00:20 RetroUpriser: why?

00:00:30 RooK314: Sort of I guess. I just like that it is easy to clean and lasts a lifetime if properly cared for.

00:00:55 RooK314: The Huffington Post rofl

00:01:07 mircea_popescu: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CevxZvSJLk8 << ahaha check out the wankfodder.

00:01:08 assbot: Katy Perry - Roar (Official) - YouTube

00:01:12 BingoBoingo: Well, the acids in tomatoes incteract poorly with the seasoning.

00:01:36 xanthyos: huff po is a blogging site, not real journalism

00:02:21 RetroUpriser: Yeah acidic foods will make the pan give run-off into your food

00:03:27 mircea_popescu: omfg i found pickles in argentina!

00:03:32 assbot: Last 1 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2GPDDSB.txt )

00:03:32 BingoBoingo: !b 1

00:03:33 mircea_popescu: they're shitty vinegar pickles, but still.

00:03:48 BingoBoingo: Romanians and their pickles

00:03:59 mircea_popescu: pickles are the most important thing in the world.

00:04:05 BingoBoingo: !s pickles

00:04:06 assbot: 47 results for 'pickles' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=pickles

00:04:54 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#478575

00:04:54 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

00:05:07 BingoBoingo: 04-02-2014 16:08:51 there's at least a dozen different sorts of pickles i can't do without

00:05:42 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo it's like a handicap.

00:06:44 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu I imagine it must be. You could never run away to Antartica because of your pickle hunger.

00:07:10 mircea_popescu: i doubt i could have the girls walk around naked in antartica.

00:07:38 mircea_popescu: and here's some 1950s french feminism : http://38.media.tumblr.com/214748d9432100f9a39d16b2c409163c/tumblr_mfvcqdL2Zn1qdltsqo1_500.jpg

00:08:27 RetroUpriser: So your mega rich right?

00:08:35 RetroUpriser: like above top 30%?

00:08:41 RetroUpriser: directed at mp

00:09:10 mircea_popescu: !up hikari1

00:09:27 mthreat: top 30% = mega rich?

00:09:35 RetroUpriser: hell yeah

00:09:40 mthreat: top 30% of what

00:09:45 mircea_popescu: i suspect everyone here is top 30%.

00:09:48 RetroUpriser: of the wealth in the world

00:09:49 mthreat: exactly

00:09:58 RetroUpriser: you think so? it was a shot in the dark

00:10:25 mthreat: everyone in the channel is probably top 5% of the world in wealth

00:10:44 RetroUpriser: I guess i didnt take into account all those poor bastards

00:10:45 mircea_popescu: youre aware average wealth per capita is less than an ounce of gold.

00:10:56 RetroUpriser: then i am wealthy

00:11:04 mthreat: don't forget it

00:11:07 RetroUpriser: but it is all relative

00:11:07 mircea_popescu: see, this is the blessing of bitcoin-assets.

00:11:08 mthreat: and don't go to monaco

00:11:13 mthreat: you'll feel poor

00:11:16 RetroUpriser: what is?

00:11:18 mircea_popescu: you don't need to spend much time here to become wealthy.

00:11:23 RetroUpriser: hah

00:12:11 RetroUpriser: well, if i had the same %/total of dollars that i do of % of bitcoin that can exist, id be ridiculously rich

00:12:38 RetroUpriser: tht is if sealswithclubs doesnt steal from me

00:13:15 BingoBoingo: ;;google site:fraudsters.com how to be a millionaire

00:13:16 gribble: How to live to be rich. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; O, wasted youth! pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Amir Taaki has done, and continues to do, huge disservice ... - fraudsters:

00:13:28 mthreat: RetroUpriser: http://www.globalrichlist.com/wealth

00:13:29 assbot: Global Rich List

00:13:33 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i continue to be amazed at what goog picks.

00:13:47 BingoBoingo: Indeed

00:14:27 RetroUpriser: the wasted youth is a bad link

00:14:43 mircea_popescu: "You?re in the top 0.0001% richest people in the world. That makes you the 151st richest person on earth."

00:14:48 mircea_popescu: im not sure how accurate that website is.

00:15:01 mthreat: haha, congrats!

00:15:19 mircea_popescu: i skipped the "equity in your home" part tho.

00:15:26 mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser i see it ?

00:15:55 RetroUpriser: it says it cant be displayed, and the people who are the top ten richest, are definitely not letting that info out

00:15:55 mircea_popescu: ;;calc 7000000000 * 0.0001 / 100

00:15:56 gribble: 7000

00:16:05 mircea_popescu: 7k, 150, whatevs.

00:16:23 RetroUpriser: hows it feel to be rich enough to never have to work a day in your life man?

00:16:53 mircea_popescu: old.

00:17:12 RetroUpriser: well my friend

00:17:24 RetroUpriser: i have an open wallet if you wanna spice things up ;)

00:17:36 mircea_popescu: mthreat lol love how they keep trying to sell me on making donations. neat idea for a site.

00:17:47 mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser got a gf ?

00:17:56 RetroUpriser: charity is best served in your own hands man

00:18:04 RetroUpriser: screw donating to organizations

00:18:04 mthreat: mircea pays for tits

00:18:16 RetroUpriser: No, but i can get you some tit pics

00:18:21 mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser did you come up with that idea on your own or read it somewhere ?

00:18:35 RetroUpriser: I think carnagie said it in some history class in middle school

00:18:38 RetroUpriser: industrialist

00:18:52 mircea_popescu: see midnightmagic, there's like five of us by now. at least.

00:19:05 RetroUpriser: Whats a tit pic goin for nowadays?

00:19:15 mircea_popescu: ;;google i'll pay for your tits

00:19:16 gribble: I'll pay for your tits pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.: ; Just To See Your Tits - YouTube: ; No, These Stupid Cookies Will Not Make Your Boobs Bigger - Jezebel:

00:19:23 mircea_popescu: look at that. crickey.

00:19:23 RetroUpriser: why dont you just fly over here and ill get you some tang

00:20:01 RetroUpriser: webpage cannot be found

00:20:02 midnightmagic: mircea_popescu: five what..?

00:20:15 mircea_popescu: people writing the same stuff.

00:20:18 midnightmagic: oh lol

00:20:21 mircea_popescu: hehe

00:20:53 mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser you got some weird internet censorship thing going ?

00:21:23 RetroUpriser: nah man i was on fraudsters earlier, but the links assbot gives me arent working

00:21:34 RetroUpriser: because its adding the >

00:21:36 RetroUpriser: at the end

00:21:51 RetroUpriser: or no, no its not

00:21:54 assbot: fu gribble is doing that.

00:21:59 mircea_popescu: ah

00:22:36 RetroUpriser: when i google search it works

00:22:38 RetroUpriser: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/

00:22:39 assbot: I’ll pay for your tits pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

00:22:50 RetroUpriser: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ill-pay-for-your-tits/%3E <-- this link doesnt

00:22:51 assbot: Page not found pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

00:23:54 mike_c: why is this difficult? Don't include either of the brackets..

00:24:22 RetroUpriser: whoa man .1 for some tit pics

00:24:28 RetroUpriser: hmm

00:24:40 RetroUpriser: maybe we can work something out in a bulk transaction?

00:24:50 mike_c: sure, go scrape some pron site and get paid.

00:24:54 mthreat: arbitrage, I like it!

00:25:00 mike_c: because that's what he's paying for, someone to go find him pron.

00:25:13 RetroUpriser: i can probably get a bunch of chicks to send me their tits for a fee, and ill keep the extra

00:25:20 RetroUpriser: but they wouldnt be coming into assests

00:25:24 RetroUpriser: assets

00:25:38 kakobrekla: can you IPO it first?

00:25:41 RetroUpriser: is there any other way to authenticate the titties? so you know im not google searching them

00:26:13 xanthyos: so what about tit video, at 24 frames per second. does that go for 2.4 btc/s?

00:26:21 mike_c: do you honestly think he's paying for the fking pic..

00:26:53 RetroUpriser: yeah, i do

00:26:54 xanthyos: those titties have to eauth with gribble to get paid

00:27:05 mike_c: !down RetroUpriser

00:27:08 mike_c: wtf

00:27:12 RetroUpriser: !authed

00:27:13 mike_c: ;;ident RetroUpriser

00:27:13 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'RetroUpriser', with hostmask 'RetroUpriser!a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip.', is identified as user 'birdman', with GPG key id 43C14A4124F48195, key fingerprint 2B2DC64A8C3DBD14024A610343C14A4124F48195, and bitcoin address None

00:27:20 mike_c: ;;gettrust assbot RetroUpriser

00:27:20 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user RetroUpriser: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=RetroUpriser | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RetroUpriser | Rated since: never

00:27:23 RetroUpriser: !down mike_c

00:27:32 kakobrekla: lol!

00:27:37 xanthyos: RetroUpriser's gribble nick is "birdman"

00:27:40 xanthyos: that's why it doesn't show

00:27:46 mike_c: !down birdman

00:27:57 xanthyos: !up birdman

00:27:59 kakobrekla: no it doest work like that

00:28:03 RetroUpriser: no, im authed, you can't devoice me

00:28:13 RetroUpriser: i assume at least

00:28:19 mike_c: kako.. help me out here before i pop a valve.

00:28:37 kakobrekla: has assbot been pming you?

00:28:52 kakobrekla: anyway, he seems to be authed

00:28:58 RetroUpriser: me? no

00:29:01 mike_c: but not trusted?

00:29:12 RetroUpriser: i have a rating or two

00:29:25 RetroUpriser: ;;gettrust birdman

00:29:26 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RetroUpriser!a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user birdman to user birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 4 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=birdman&dest=birdman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=birdman | Rated since: Sun Jul 6 16:21:25 (1 more message)

00:29:39 mike_c: ;;gettrust assbot birdman

00:29:39 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RetroUpriser!a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=birdman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=birdman | Rated since: Sun Jul 6 16:21:25 2014

00:29:47 kakobrekla: bam.

00:30:06 RetroUpriser: Is there a problem?

00:30:12 mike_c: danielpbarron, your judgement is questionable :)

00:30:23 danielpbarron: sorry :/

00:30:34 RetroUpriser: way to be a dick daniel

00:30:44 RetroUpriser: dont mention to 2g loan i took and paid back

00:31:03 RetroUpriser: which really isnt much less than the btc your holding, right now at least

00:31:07 mike_c: and yet you are in here begging for pennies

00:31:17 RetroUpriser: ahem

00:31:20 RetroUpriser: anyways

00:31:36 RetroUpriser: Mircea_popescu i'd like to hear more about your offer

00:31:48 RetroUpriser: mike_C i'd like to hear less of yours

00:31:53 xanthyos: i only have 0.030712 BTC to my name and i haven't even dropped an address to beg donations into hehe

00:32:08 kakobrekla: RetroUpriser you know this is not 'id like' game.

00:32:29 RetroUpriser: I don't understand

00:32:42 fluffypony: isn't it down time yet?

00:32:44 kakobrekla: try harder.

00:33:12 RetroUpriser: Am i supposed to roll over when this kid tries to push my buttons?

00:33:25 mike_c: ;;rate birdman -1

00:33:26 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user birdman has been recorded.

00:33:27 fluffypony: mike_c is a id?

00:33:27 RetroUpriser: Still not getting where any problem started from

00:33:29 mike_c: !down RetroUpriser

00:33:29 fluffypony: *kid

00:33:33 mike_c: srsly

00:34:06 kakobrekla: mike_c it wont re-check on down :(

00:34:09 mike_c: hehe

00:34:13 mike_c: ;;unrate birdman

00:34:15 gribble: Successfully removed your rating for birdman.

00:34:29 kakobrekla: this could be improved.

00:36:55 BingoBoingo: Step One, Give irc bot a new function. Step two work forever on maintaining and refining it.

00:37:23 mike_c: it's a good thing though. if it doesn't need maintaining and refining that's because no one is using it.

00:38:24 kakobrekla: or just means i did a terrible job the first time.

00:38:32 dub: sorry -assets, my lunch > yours

00:38:38 dub: http://imgur.com/ww3ODOd

00:38:38 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

00:39:00 kakobrekla: a plate of everything ?

00:39:18 mike_c: why is the yolk orange? looks good though.

00:39:36 dub: quinoa salad, thats what yolks are supposed to look like

00:40:05 dub: when your hens are not boosting meth and antibiotic speedballs

00:40:06 kakobrekla: home made stuff?

00:40:13 dub: I made it

00:40:25 kakobrekla: the egg too?

00:41:28 benkay: >> quinoa // stopped reading

00:41:44 BingoBoingo: dub> when your hens are not boosting meth and antibiotic speedballs << But mething up the hens is how you let them defends themselves from foxes

00:41:47 mike_c: aw benkay, you're just jealous his lunch > your breakfast

00:43:57 BingoBoingo: ;;rate birdman -1 reading comprehension

00:43:58 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user birdman has been recorded.

00:44:10 BingoBoingo: !down RetroUpriser

00:44:19 mike_c: i tried that

00:44:35 BingoBoingo: mike_c: It will work next time, * RetroUpriser (a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. has left #bitcoin-assets

00:45:03 mike_c: ;;gettrust assbot birdman

00:45:04 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RetroUpriser!a2e354cb@gateway/web/freenode/ip. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user assbot to user birdman: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=birdman | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=birdman | Rated since: Sun Jul 6 16:21:25 2014

00:45:07 mike_c: indeed.

00:46:32 dub: kakobrekla: egg from the store

00:48:30 HeySteve: hey assets, I just had an idea for a bitcoin choose your own adventure game

00:49:20 fluffypony: does it involve limericks?

00:49:29 HeySteve: eg. you are conan and a dragon is attacking you (and here is a drawing art of that). to throw your sword at the dragon, send btc to [address]. to run away, send btc to [different address]. etc.

00:49:37 HeySteve: fluffypony it might, and riddles!

00:49:41 fluffypony: awesome

00:50:20 HeySteve: yeah I should put some words and doodles on the forum and see what happens

00:50:21 dub: do a historically accurate one to teach noobs... Turn to page 42 to invest in pirate or page 69 to IPO your PMB

00:50:30 HeySteve: haha also an option

00:51:17 HeySteve: maybe a cyberpunk one to bring in bitcoin elements

00:51:47 HeySteve: love games but can't code, so this could be a fun thing to do

00:54:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24700 @ 0.00080529 = 19.8907 BTC [-] {2}

00:59:49 benkay: bitcoin mud

01:06:39 []bot: Bet placed: 1.2 BTC for Yes on "Apple stock to close at over $100 in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/956/ Odds: 95(Y):5(N) by coin, 94(Y):6(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.2414 BTC. Current weight: 80,143.

01:06:54 BingoBoingo: IRL SoupNazi seems to have finally come to accept Seinfeld http://originalsoupman.com/blog/original-soupman-soupmobile-celebrates-25th-anniversary-seinfeld-soup-brooklyn-cyclones-seinfeld-night

01:06:55 assbot: The Original SoupMan SoupMOBILE Celebrates the 25th Anniversary of Seinfeld with soup for you at Brooklyn Cyclones Seinfeld Night | The Original Soupman | The Original Soupman

01:08:13 BingoBoingo: http://originalsoupman.com/als-rules

01:08:16 assbot: Al's Rules | The Original Soupman | The Original Soupman

01:11:51 BingoBoingo: !up RebeccaBitcoin

01:11:56 BingoBoingo: !up trixisowned

01:12:00 BingoBoingo: !up zoinky

01:12:05 BingoBoingo: !up stormlight

01:13:21 RebeccaBitcoin: !up me

01:13:28 RebeccaBitcoin: finally I can talk

01:14:03 RebeccaBitcoin: Do I really need to do this gribble decrypt pgp shit every time I log in?

01:14:25 benkay: is it really that hard?

01:14:28 mike_c: i does force you to optimize your toolchain

01:14:29 benkay: ;;eauth benkay

01:14:30 gribble: Request successful for user benkay, hostmask benkay!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

01:14:30 mike_c: *it

01:14:44 benkay: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:4649c416224d088b2bc0f4358750640032629be7bbb6084621bf6be9

01:14:45 gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

01:15:26 RebeccaBitcoin: benkay yes it is

01:15:46 RebeccaBitcoin: i had to copy and paste stuff

01:15:49 xanthyos: ;;eauthlings: take me to your leader

01:15:50 gribble: Error: "eauthlings:" is not a valid command.

01:16:09 RebeccaBitcoin: which took like 52 seconds at least

01:16:45 mike_c: you sound like you are in as good a mood as i am.

01:16:57 RebeccaBitcoin: i'm in a great mood

01:17:03 mike_c: oh. nevermind then.

01:17:09 RebeccaBitcoin: why are you grumpy

01:17:22 mike_c: the forum is probably rubbing off on me already.

01:17:35 RebeccaBitcoin: which forum

01:17:42 mike_c: tardtalk

01:17:50 benkay: RebeccaBitcoin: curl http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/ | gpg -d |

01:17:51 assbot: 404 Not Found

01:18:07 RebeccaBitcoin: damnit

01:18:09 RebeccaBitcoin: just broke a glass

01:18:19 mike_c: hah! now you'll be grumpy.

01:18:26 RebeccaBitcoin: thats what I get for sitting in the bath, with a glass of wine, and my laptop on a chair

01:19:51 RebeccaBitcoin: oh well I'll clean that up when I get out

01:20:22 RebeccaBitcoin: Where the hell is bitcoinpete

01:20:58 RebeccaBitcoin: I've come here two nights in a row, gone through the ridiculous gribble nonsense, verified my GPG key, and he's still not here.

01:21:10 mike_c: ;;seen bitcoinpete

01:21:10 gribble: bitcoinpete was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 hours, 50 minutes, and 26 seconds ago: alright. off to dream of domain names. adios!

01:21:17 kakobrekla: ;;gettrust xanthyos

01:21:18 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask xanthyos!~emk@c-71-232-150-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user xanthyos: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=xanthyos | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=xanthyos | Rated since: Tue May 13 21:36:26 2014

01:21:26 RebeccaBitcoin: Right, so he's been sleeping for like 19 hours

01:21:27 benkay: RebeccaBitcoin: you could always send him your email via ;;later

01:21:29 xanthyos: leave a keybase tab open and authing takes no time

01:21:35 benkay: ;;later tell RebeccaBitcoin butts

01:21:35 gribble: The operation succeeded.

01:21:48 kakobrekla: o look birdmans friend

01:21:48 benkay: keybase lol f'reel xanthyos ?

01:21:50 RebeccaBitcoin: Its not the same

01:22:06 RebeccaBitcoin: I don't have anything in particular I want to say

01:22:13 benkay: what tz are you in?

01:22:15 xanthyos: benkay: what do you mean

01:22:17 benkay: he's pacific iirc

01:22:27 xanthyos: what other than keybase would i use?

01:22:29 RebeccaBitcoin: shouldn't peter be in alberta time

01:22:34 RebeccaBitcoin: mountain time

01:22:41 xanthyos: danielpbarron set it up for me, i assumed it was everyone's gribblling procedure

01:22:55 mike_c: tell us about you rebecca. how did you encounter pete.

01:22:58 *: danielpbarron rubs his face

01:23:13 xanthyos: i know danielpbarron and birdman irl and trust them explicitly regardless of what you think of their irc personas

01:23:13 benkay: danielpbarron: you're responsible for this heresy?

01:23:24 RebeccaBitcoin: I read his blog, thought it was good, noticed its like 48% copy and paste from here, and figured I would cut out the middle man and visit it myself

01:23:29 benkay: keybase suggests you give them your private key.

01:23:38 benkay: this is madness.

01:23:42 danielpbarron: benkay, believe me I've tried to get them to use proper crypto

01:23:49 benkay: they also suggest you encrypt it with javascript.

01:23:59 mike_c: RebeccaBitcoin: well, this is it. are you dazzled yet?

01:24:02 benkay: this will end with their heads on pikes w'out the gulag.

01:24:03 RebeccaBitcoin: Little did I know that I would have to spend precious minutes figuring out gribble's GPG stuff just to talk to you nerds lol

01:24:15 benkay: danielpbarron: they have to have gpg anyways, right?

01:24:44 RebeccaBitcoin: I was literally here for 2 hours last night, albeit while watching suits at the same time.

01:24:54 mike_c: what do you do around btc?

01:25:08 benkay: make them memorize the commands, and beat them if they fuck up.

01:25:16 RebeccaBitcoin: I was moderately dazzled by Mircea's comments about my nipples and so fourth, but other than that, there wasn't much noteworthy.

01:25:16 benkay: "gpg -d"

01:25:24 benkay: da fuq is so hard about that

01:25:38 danielpbarron: windows

01:25:46 mike_c: it even works in windows.

01:26:05 RebeccaBitcoin: I prefer mac

01:26:06 RebeccaBitcoin: far prettier

01:26:56 benkay: dem optics

01:27:20 benkay: but seriously danielpbarron xanthyos if you can type "keybase" at the command line you can type "gpg -d" at the command line too.

01:27:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21350 @ 0.00080839 = 17.2591 BTC [+] {2}

01:29:38 danielpbarron: benkay, idk what to say; you're right, and I already do use gnupg

01:29:59 benkay: xanthyos: and your defense?

01:30:14 xanthyos: for what

01:30:40 danielpbarron: i set it up for him; keybase was the quickest way to get him in the WoT :/

01:30:57 xanthyos: i'm gonna vaporize some cannabis

01:31:12 RebeccaBitcoin: good idea

01:31:18 RebeccaBitcoin: hey so how can I get into this web of trust thing

01:31:33 benkay: ;;gettrust RebeccaBitcoin

01:31:34 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RebeccaBitcoin!461a7a92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip. Trust relationship from user benkay to user RebeccaBitcoin: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=RebeccaBitcoin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RebeccaBitcoin | Rated since: Sun Jul 27 23:02:45 2014

01:31:41 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot RebeccaBitcoin

01:31:41 RebeccaBitcoin: followup question: If I get enough trust in the web, will you send me all your bitcoins?

01:31:41 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask RebeccaBitcoin!461a7a92@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip. Trust relationship from user assbot to user RebeccaBitcoin: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=RebeccaBitcoin | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=RebeccaBitcoin | Rated since: Sun Jul 27 23:02:45 2014

01:31:49 benkay: looky that, you already are

01:31:53 benkay: !down RebeccaBitcoin

01:32:00 benkay: now /msg assbot !up

01:32:13 benkay: "/msg assbot !up" in another freenode channel.

01:32:18 benkay: you won't be able to send from this one.

01:32:24 mike_c: sure she can

01:32:30 benkay: nope, try it.

01:33:44 benkay: bah nvm

01:33:45 danielpbarron: channel needs to be +z for !up to work in the channel from devoiced users (i think)

01:33:46 benkay: i r wrongz

01:34:22 benkay: danielpbarron: you can't !up yourself, but you can /msg assbot !up from #bitcoin-assets.

01:34:25 benkay: so very very wrong

01:35:08 danielpbarron: +z makes it so ops can see devoiced user's messages, but i don't think assbot would cooperate

01:38:13 mike_c: zillow bought trulia for $3.5 billion. here's the important line from the announcement: "At some point, the CEO will also have to turn the companies into moneymaking operations, since both are unprofitable."

01:38:25 benkay: well /msg just sends the message to the recipient, doesn't broadcast to channel

01:38:25 cyranodbuttgerac: /!up RebeccaBitcoin

01:38:25 benkay: ;;ping

01:38:29 gribble: pong

01:38:45 RebeccaBitcoin: indeed

01:39:50 danielpbarron: benkay, what I mean is, it should be possible for devoiced users to simply type !up in the channel and assbot would be able to see it even though everyone else would not

01:40:13 mod6: that's not how it works

01:40:38 benkay: i've advocated things like this before as well. mircea_popescu and kakobrekla prefer the join/part spam, and having people ask other people in the wot for voice.

01:40:51 RebeccaBitcoin: ya, it has to be complicated

01:40:54 danielpbarron: nono, I like that part too

01:41:07 benkay: !up vs /msg assbot !up

01:41:09 RebeccaBitcoin: keeps the plebs out

01:41:11 benkay: i don't see it, i tell ya

01:41:46 danielpbarron: it's not that important really; I just think the +z mode on channels is interesting

01:41:48 *: kakobrekla doest see parts or joins

01:42:47 benkay: RebeccaBitcoin: did you get your own !up sorted?

01:43:03 RebeccaBitcoin: not sure

01:43:08 RebeccaBitcoin: I can talk so maybe

01:43:26 benkay: okay copy this string: /msg assbot !up

01:43:34 benkay: !down RebeccaBitcoin

01:43:40 RebeccaBitcoin: Is this a ruse?

01:43:40 benkay: oh hey yeah, you totally got it

01:44:29 RebeccaBitcoin: so i'm all good now?

01:44:46 benkay: looks like it

01:46:58 decimation: re: zillow & trulia : both sites suck ass. But unlike facebook, they are stealing content from 100's rather than millions of other content producers - and those producers are not happy: http://www.phoenixrealestateguy.com/arg-abbott-realty-group-pulls-listings-from-zillow-trulia-and-realtor-com/

01:46:59 assbot: ARG Abbott Realty Group Pulls Listings from Zillow, Trulia and Realtor.com - The Phoenix Real Estate Guy

01:47:57 RebeccaBitcoin: hey so when do you guys start sharing all the top secret bitcoin stuff

01:48:22 decimation: this channel is public and logged

01:48:37 RebeccaBitcoin: like where should i invest, who's satoshi, how can i break the encryption on bitcoin casinos

01:48:47 Duffer1: rebecca it's all in the chan description

01:48:48 benkay: satoshi is ancient aliens

01:49:07 Duffer1: er chan topic

01:50:34 Duffer1: the knowledge drop time is pretty random, but the blogs are pretty quick

01:50:40 Duffer1: http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/

01:50:40 assbot: Assets Assimilated

01:51:19 asciilifeform: Duffer1: you meant: http://assass.headfucking.net

01:51:19 assbot: Assets Assimilated

01:51:32 decimation: the answers (and/or speculation thereof) to these questions can be gleaned from the wisdom in the logs of the channel

01:51:47 benkay: it's almost as grueling a read as deuteronomy

01:52:26 RebeccaBitcoin: I read last night's log from after I left

01:52:31 Duffer1: wow the monarch is still in development

01:52:36 RebeccaBitcoin: 1/10th of the way into it I fell asleep

01:52:36 Duffer1: who could have guessed...

01:53:26 benkay: RebeccaBitcoin: the logs are my morning newspaper.

01:53:31 mod6: ^

01:55:09 RebeccaBitcoin: I prefer coindesk. It's like the national enquirer with more plagiarism.

01:58:04 benkay: candy's bad for your brain.

02:00:29 RebeccaBitcoin: Also, I'm not one to usually post private things publicly, but wtf type of convo did i just have in a PM

02:00:40 RebeccaBitcoin: hersecretslave

02:00:40 RebeccaBitcoin: Thanks. I was wondering if you are the girl from reddit?

02:00:41 RebeccaBitcoin: RebeccaBitcoin

02:00:41 RebeccaBitcoin: Is there only one girl on reddit?

02:00:41 RebeccaBitcoin: hersecretslave

02:00:41 RebeccaBitcoin: There was a girl here from reddit last night who was ... open minded but I missed most of the convo

02:00:41 RebeccaBitcoin: :(

02:00:42 RebeccaBitcoin: RebeccaBitcoin

02:00:42 RebeccaBitcoin: on reddit or here?

02:00:43 RebeccaBitcoin: hersecretslave

02:00:43 RebeccaBitcoin: Here in #bitcoin-assets

02:00:44 RebeccaBitcoin: RebeccaBitcoin

02:00:44 RebeccaBitcoin: are you sure you don't mean coinforum

02:00:45 RebeccaBitcoin: If yes, then yes

02:00:45 RebeccaBitcoin: if reddit, no

02:00:46 RebeccaBitcoin: hersecretslave

02:00:46 RebeccaBitcoin: Oh ok sorry if I bothered you. As my name suggests I am a sub and was looking

02:01:07 mike_c: RebeccaBitcoin: learn pastebin.com :)

02:01:17 RebeccaBitcoin: far cooler to send massive messages here

02:01:26 BingoBoingo: !down RebeccaBitcoin

02:01:29 RebeccaBitcoin: lol

02:01:35 kakobrekla: too late for that bb.

02:05:07 BingoBoingo: https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-tck72C2mAsE/U86OafKV5_I/AAAAAAAAIcg/raxQ7lxdTMU/s1600/download+%284%29.jpg

02:05:43 kakobrekla: yeah you are suppose to spray it around.

02:06:35 RebeccaBitcoin: back in a bit

02:09:30 BingoBoingo: !up jctb

02:23:14 decimation: http://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis/blogs/stateline/2014/07/28/states-debate-regulating-digital-currency

02:23:16 assbot: States Debate Regulating Digital Currency

02:23:40 decimation: texas's regulation seems pretty reasonable (link at the bottom): http://www.dob.texas.gov/public/uploads/files/Laws-Regulations/New-Actions/sm1037.pdf

02:24:32 decimation: "Transfer of cryptocurrency by itself is not money transmission. Because cryptocurrencyis not money or monetary value, the receipt of it in exchange for a promise to make it available at a later time or different location is not money transmission. This includes intermediaries who receive cryptocurrency for transfer to a third party, and entities who akin to depositories, hold cryptocurrency on behalf of customers."

02:25:08 TheNewDeal: niiice

02:25:24 decimation: This kind of "law" is exactly what makes new york's rules unreasonable - business will just move to other states

02:32:28 Duffer1: lol transfer of money is not money transmission

02:34:29 decimation: not if it's not "money"

02:36:49 decimation: eh, it's all word-games anyway. the main point is that at least texas (and to some degree the IRS) recognize that they can't regulate bitcoin, but they can regulate usd, which is more-or-less the truth

02:37:53 Duffer1: indeed

02:40:36 TheNewDeal: if only supernintendo lawsky would realize the same

02:49:20 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/discus-fish/

02:56:13 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18700 @ 0.0008087 = 15.1227 BTC [+] {2}

03:00:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 57717 @ 0.00080981 = 46.7398 BTC [+] {4}

03:12:29 BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

03:14:53 pete_dushenski: ;;later tell nanotube wondering if i might procure your assistance in registering 165749929F9A6BDD to this new handle. was formerly registered with bitcoinpete :)

03:14:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

03:16:44 mike_c: aw, bitcoinpete had a nice ring to it

03:17:07 pete_dushenski: mike_c: ikr!

03:18:19 mike_c: so, WoL has dipped its toe in the swamp. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=714917.0

03:18:19 assbot: WarOfLife.com - Cellular Automata - Gambling - On Chain Parimutuel or Off Chain

03:18:44 mike_c: servers have not yet melted under the load.

03:19:36 pete_dushenski: brave man

03:20:15 mike_c: ;;ident pete_dushenski

03:20:15 gribble: Nick 'pete_dushenski', with hostmask 'pete_dushenski!~pete_dush@', is not identified.

03:20:24 mike_c: this is you, right?

03:20:46 pete_dushenski: mike_c: this is dog

03:21:00 pete_dushenski: yes, it's "me"

03:22:28 mike_c: i'm convinced. i'm trying to get WoL out there a bit. if you were so inclined, you do seem to have quite the social reach. any offhand mention would be appreciated.

03:24:26 pete_dushenski: mike_c: i'd be happy to once i finish this little transition, actually play wol, then i can do a blog or something :)

03:24:37 mike_c: no rush. thanks.

03:25:02 pete_dushenski: brb

03:26:33 mike_c: oh oh, i get it. dog the bounty hunter.

03:26:39 mike_c: i liked that show.

03:26:50 mike_c: been a long day

03:28:19 dub: http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/yes-this-is-dog

03:28:19 assbot: 403 Forbidden

03:29:45 RebeccaBitcoin: I'm getting better at this gribble gpg stuff

03:31:46 RebeccaBitcoin: BitcoinPete!

03:32:28 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: !

03:33:05 RebeccaBitcoin: That was uneventful lol

03:33:05 bitcoinpete: lovely to see you drop by

03:33:34 RebeccaBitcoin: <- big fan of your blog

03:33:51 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: ah, merci beaucoups

03:34:20 bitcoinpete: i read up on the logs yesterday. looks like we just missed each other

03:34:23 RebeccaBitcoin: ya

03:34:27 RebeccaBitcoin: So ethereum

03:34:28 bitcoinpete: glad to see you made your way over the fence ;)

03:34:34 RebeccaBitcoin: is my roughly 1btc gone forever

03:34:48 bitcoinpete: lol time will tell i suppose

03:34:57 bitcoinpete: few of these things ever lose 100%...

03:35:03 bitcoinpete: but 50% is hardly uncommon

03:35:06 RebeccaBitcoin: Pimply kid said it was a good investment

03:35:25 bitcoinpete: clear skin kid thinks otherwise

03:35:48 RebeccaBitcoin: ;p

03:35:54 bitcoinpete: or, more likely, we have different definitions of "good"

03:36:17 bitcoinpete: perceived social/community good vs. financial good

03:36:31 RebeccaBitcoin: I usually fall on the right side of that spectrum

03:36:32 mike_c: !up jborkl

03:36:33 bitcoinpete: hard to measure those feelings

03:36:44 jborkl: Thank you mike_c

03:37:17 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: so what made you pull the trigger on eth?

03:37:40 Duffer1: with alt coins i've seen there's usually a way out with your skin if you exit early

03:37:42 RebeccaBitcoin: I like to gamble

03:37:51 jborkl: I saw the 19 year old kid here in Austin, they propped him up to speak

03:37:55 Duffer1: anything beyond that and it's a guaranteed loss of 50-95%

03:38:05 jborkl: Did not inspire confidence

03:39:45 RebeccaBitcoin: my logic was that on opening day, which will probably be in 2015, ether will spike in value

03:40:14 Duffer1: there's no reason for it to though, everyone who wants will have more than enough time to buy in before

03:40:18 RebeccaBitcoin: While Anthony and his cronies are all like "omg ethereum will change the world" yada yada yada, I'll sell

03:40:30 Duffer1: and probably most of them are hoping to exit on day one

03:40:32 RebeccaBitcoin: Now yes

03:40:40 RebeccaBitcoin: however, we'll now have a 6 month wait

03:40:43 Duffer1: price crashes, history repeats itself

03:41:26 RebeccaBitcoin: worst case scenario, I lose 1 bitcoin

03:41:38 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: only 6 months?? ya...

03:41:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17750 @ 0.00081652 = 14.4932 BTC [+]

03:41:58 RebeccaBitcoin: haha minimum 6 months

03:42:13 RebeccaBitcoin: with all the coins that Vitalik has he's probably having some nerd orgy in switzerlan

03:42:14 RebeccaBitcoin: d

03:42:31 bitcoinpete: now that's lulzy

03:42:34 RebeccaBitcoin: My guess is 6-12 months

03:42:55 RebeccaBitcoin: Regardless of when it happens, Anthony will tell all his lemmings in Toronto to invest

03:42:58 Duffer1: if ever :P

03:42:59 bitcoinpete: vitalik and co raised, maybe, 500-1000 legit coins so far

03:43:06 cazalla: RebeccaBitcoin, i'm sure you're not the only one with buyers remorse

03:43:11 bitcoinpete: the rest are they're own

03:43:16 bitcoinpete: their*

03:43:19 RebeccaBitcoin: anyway to prove that?

03:43:39 Duffer1: it's s.o.p.

03:43:44 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: pretty much pure conjecture with a sprinkling of hunch

03:43:56 RebeccaBitcoin: its a good hypothesis but I haven't seen any proof

03:44:02 bitcoinpete: and it's fucking bitcoin, of course there's no way to prove that

03:44:06 bitcoinpete: that's the point :)

03:44:15 RebeccaBitcoin: ya

03:46:18 RebeccaBitcoin: Anyway, my hypothesized timeline goes: Initial Sale -> we wait -> we wait some more -> anthony builds hype -> vitalik talks at conferences -> we wait some more -> some random technical issue happens to delay things further -> It launches -> Anthony's lemmings go omgthisizamazing! -> price jumps briefly -> Rebecca sells -> Price crashes and Vitalik

03:46:18 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

03:46:18 RebeccaBitcoin: returns home to his mom's house

03:47:53 Duffer1: buys mom million dollar mantion in tropican paradise

03:48:00 Duffer1: mansion even

03:49:19 RebeccaBitcoin: sadly, I do have buyer's remorse

03:49:31 RebeccaBitcoin: and since I paid with bitcoin, I can't call my credit card company and claim my card was stolen like I usually do

03:50:05 Duffer1: i wouldn't worry about it at all

03:50:37 Duffer1: even if y ou eat a 100% loss on this, that's a VERY inexpensive lesson learned

03:50:51 RebeccaBitcoin: ya, its only one bitcoin

03:50:57 RebeccaBitcoin: if I believed in it I would have tossed way more at it

03:53:28 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: so what part of the country are you in?

03:53:42 RebeccaBitcoin: London, Ontario

03:54:15 bitcoinpete: o ok so humid and fly-infested

03:54:32 bitcoinpete: they always come back...

03:55:12 bitcoinpete: and speaking of anthony di iorio, he left me (another!) voicemail last night

03:55:25 bitcoinpete: so i sent him an email and invited him here

03:55:30 bitcoinpete: nao we wait

03:56:07 bitcoinpete: for those who don't know, anthony is one of the spokesman/financiers/doods behind ethereum

03:56:35 bitcoinpete: pretty sure he controls vitalik's leg strings

03:58:04 RebeccaBitcoin: sorry about that

03:58:06 RebeccaBitcoin: internet died

03:58:15 RebeccaBitcoin: Anthony say anything interesting?

03:58:15 bitcoinpete: na worries

03:58:22 bitcoinpete: nope

03:58:41 RebeccaBitcoin: Someone posted somewhere that anthony has a shady past

03:58:44 RebeccaBitcoin: I can't find anything shady

03:58:48 RebeccaBitcoin: Anyone have any insight on that?

03:58:52 bitcoinpete: "please to call, read your blog, didn't know you felt that way…"

03:59:06 bitcoinpete: as if he assumed i FELT otherwise

03:59:14 RebeccaBitcoin: ya pete c'mon

03:59:19 RebeccaBitcoin: he thought you were cool

03:59:23 RebeccaBitcoin: now he's learnt you're a dick

03:59:43 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: nao he's learnt i gotz a blog

03:59:45 RebeccaBitcoin: coolpete would have promoted the scam

04:00:05 bitcoinpete: anything for a price ;)

04:00:19 RebeccaBitcoin: now you're talking

04:00:21 bitcoinpete: never heard about this shady past though

04:00:32 RebeccaBitcoin: I spent like 18 mins googling him

04:00:35 bitcoinpete: only thing i know of was satoshi circle iirc

04:00:46 bitcoinpete: sold it for 6 figures i think

04:00:47 RebeccaBitcoin: ya, which is kinda illegal gambling but that's hardly sahdy

04:00:50 bitcoinpete: cad

04:00:51 RebeccaBitcoin: shady

04:01:06 RebeccaBitcoin: I was hoping for some sort of elaborate scam

04:01:31 bitcoinpete: it's called ethereum

04:01:47 RebeccaBitcoin: ;p

04:01:53 RebeccaBitcoin: a previous elaborate scam

04:03:21 bitcoinpete: i'm sure mircea_popescu could recommend a private eye if you really must know ;)

04:04:17 bitcoinpete: mike_c: bitcoinpete is a pretty good bitcoin-assets marketer. << well don't mind if i do :D

04:04:42 RebeccaBitcoin: Now only if it wasn't so complicated to get on here

04:04:51 RebeccaBitcoin: make a username, choose a password, GPG gribble nonsense

04:04:57 RebeccaBitcoin: and then to make it worse, I have to do gribble every time I log on

04:05:12 Duffer1: it's training

04:05:17 RebeccaBitcoin: for...

04:05:23 Duffer1: valuable habits

04:05:36 RebeccaBitcoin: I'm like a pro at internet security

04:05:40 RebeccaBitcoin: I store my coins in a brain wallet

04:05:45 RebeccaBitcoin: becky'scoins

04:05:51 RebeccaBitcoin: it has a ' so that makes it more seure

04:05:52 RebeccaBitcoin: secure

04:05:53 bitcoinpete: lol

04:05:58 Duffer1: i thought i was too, till i got attacked a couple weeks ago, read the logs

04:06:03 Duffer1: thoroghly compromised

04:06:17 bitcoinpete: Duffer1: but weren't you using windows ?

04:06:26 Duffer1: yea

04:06:30 RebeccaBitcoin: hahaha

04:06:32 bitcoinpete: so...

04:06:49 Duffer1: i know i know

04:07:10 BingoBoingo: Duffer1: but weren't you using windows ? << People can screw the pooch on Linux too

04:07:52 bitcoinpete: it's easier to skin your knees on a skateboard than in a car

04:08:47 RebeccaBitcoin: well said

04:08:50 Duffer1: they didn't get anything except a piece of pride :P

04:09:33 RebeccaBitcoin: because you had no coins or because you have them well secured

04:09:48 RebeccaBitcoin: That must be depressing for hackers. Hack into someone's computer, and they have no bitcoins.

04:09:49 Duffer1: offline purpose built laptop

04:09:58 RebeccaBitcoin: especially if they should have coins

04:10:53 RebeccaBitcoin: pete

04:10:54 Duffer1: i don't believe my comp was infilitrated, they attacked my services

04:11:05 RebeccaBitcoin: If someone makes a bot that steals coins from brain wallets

04:11:09 RebeccaBitcoin: is that unethical

04:11:13 Duffer1: to try to gain access to coinbase, which did have access to my bank account

04:13:51 RebeccaBitcoin: I assume coinbase has 2factor

04:14:02 Duffer1: yea

04:14:11 bitcoinpete: RebeccaBitcoin: is hacking ethical ?

04:14:33 bitcoinpete: sure it is

04:14:44 bitcoinpete: it's a necessary force

04:14:47 Duffer1: but the attacker knew my cell number / provider and tried to set up call forwarding for the coinbase 2fa token

04:15:51 bitcoinpete: brb

04:17:13 Duffer1: anyways the point is, i learned a security mindset from b-a, gpg reinforced the habit

04:17:40 Duffer1: and the attacker is empty handed

04:21:32 RebeccaBitcoin: I'm back

04:21:37 RebeccaBitcoin: did I miss anything

04:22:54 RebeccaBitcoin: I'm guessing not

04:23:12 dub: there are logs

04:23:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5959 @ 0.00081738 = 4.8708 BTC [+]

04:23:49 RebeccaBitcoin: ah I did miss something

04:24:10 RebeccaBitcoin: Duffer taught me that if I use windows, I have to regularly use GPG to protect myself

04:25:49 Duffer1: lol if you use any system you can still get owned if they know enough about you and get some tier one wanker to change an email pw

04:27:59 RebeccaBitcoin: true

04:28:40 asciilifeform: Duffer1 keeps his root pw in his mailbox ?

04:29:03 RebeccaBitcoin: isn't that the safest place?

04:29:14 RebeccaBitcoin: root pw in your gmail

04:29:17 asciilifeform: 2nd only to one's arse

04:29:25 Duffer1: hehe ofc not

04:30:00 RebeccaBitcoin: Its always a good idea to have an email to yourself with the subject passwords

04:30:08 RebeccaBitcoin: put all your usernames and passwords in there

04:30:22 asciilifeform: the ones that set off the thermite.

04:30:26 RebeccaBitcoin: and make sure your passwords have some $ signs in them

04:30:38 RebeccaBitcoin: that makes them safer, especiailly if money is involved

04:31:33 dub: changing e to 3 makes passwords secure

04:31:46 BingoBoingo: the ones that set off the thermite. << lol

04:32:01 RebeccaBitcoin: good suggestion dub

04:32:07 RebeccaBitcoin: I'll change my brainwallet to b3cky'scoins

04:32:49 RebeccaBitcoin: also, one other pro tip: If you use google authenticator 2 factor, its always a good idea to save the QR code pic in your gmail with your passwords

04:33:14 RebeccaBitcoin: that way if you lose your phone when out clubbing or whatever, you can re-scan it

04:34:34 pete_dushenski: ;;rate nanotube 2 there when you need him

04:34:35 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user nanotube has been recorded.

04:34:54 TheNewDeal: !s lawgs

04:34:55 assbot: 10 results for 'lawgs' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=lawgs

04:35:11 RebeccaBitcoin: Pete gave into Miracea's peer pressure from last night?

04:35:34 TheNewDeal: Rebecca, I was gone earlier, but here's your answer to "Did I miss anything ?" https://imgflip.com/i/9iu9z

04:35:34 assbot: Image tagged in lawgs - Imgflip

04:35:40 cazalla: can't believe bitcoinpete gave in :\

04:36:33 pete_dushenski: RebeccaBitcoin: i blame benkay and his crap typing skills

04:37:09 pete_dushenski: cazalla: sorta the straw that broke the camel's back

04:39:16 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2014/07/saving-face.html << possibly interesting to you

04:39:17 assbot: ClubOrlov: Saving Face

04:43:15 pete_dushenski: benkay: she just doesn't have moosedickpete's heteroboner for mircea_popescu << give her time.

04:44:10 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I am swiftly coming to the conclusion that the only undisputable fact is that Malaysia Airlines should probably be uninsurable by now.

04:44:19 RebeccaBitcoin: haha

04:44:48 asciilifeform: if wtc is insurable - what remains ?

04:45:13 RebeccaBitcoin: malaysian is probably pretty safe

04:45:19 RebeccaBitcoin: 2 crashes in a few months

04:45:30 RebeccaBitcoin: odds are there won't be a third

04:45:54 asciilifeform: who knows, perhaps insurers now believe, as some ww1 soldiers did, that 'shell doesn't ever drop into the old crater'

04:47:18 RebeccaBitcoin: the ukranian one doesn't appear to be entirely malaysian's fault

04:47:25 RebeccaBitcoin: sure they stupidly flew there

04:47:40 BingoBoingo: who knows, perhaps insurers now believe, as some ww1 soldiers did, that 'shell doesn't ever drop into the old crater' << Old crater is perfect target to shell if you can't see enemies outside of it.

04:48:05 pete_dushenski: asciilifeform like israelis who, during the intifada in the early 2000s, would pack the bar that was previously suicide bombed the second it re-opened

04:51:09 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: omg popescu and rescue don't rhyme. << says mur-see-uhh

04:51:59 Duffer1: shit it's not pronounced "you"? my poor haikus :((

04:58:41 pete_dushenski: ;;bc,stats

04:58:43 gribble: Current Blocks: 312959 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1536 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 3 days, 4 hours, 7 minutes, and 56 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 18956348956.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 1.17369

04:58:47 BingoBoingo: %d

04:58:49 pete_dushenski: ;;nethash

04:58:49 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 552418.63 in 749 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -19.61

04:58:49 gribble: 134835565.293

04:58:53 benkay: ether ether ether

04:59:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11101 @ 0.00081467 = 9.0437 BTC [-]

04:59:19 pete_dushenski: …all day long. ether ether ether while i sing this song

04:59:24 benkay: pete_dushenski's feelings...

04:59:53 pete_dushenski: benkay: ikr? like since when are those a thing?

05:00:20 benkay: is that unethical // it's to be expected

05:00:34 benkay: is that unethical // brainwallets must have adequate entropy, and no JS doth not provide.

05:01:15 benkay: the ones that set off the thermite. // ding ding ding

05:02:31 benkay: benkay: she just doesn't have moosedickpete's heteroboner for mircea_popescu << give her time. << last week was big black dicks in the ass, this week is moose dick, next week is she-dick.

05:02:55 pete_dushenski: #b-a: home of the dicks

05:03:26 benkay: i think shemales

05:03:28 benkay: https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4092/5013964672_eefe8527fc_z.jpg

05:03:36 benkay: fuck all of my different clipboards

05:03:52 benkay: the os x one only has one slot as apparently a giant "fuck you" to anyone who's not a retard

05:04:15 benkay: oh also i was told today that calling things "stupid" is bad because some people identify as stupid and using stupid as a negative word makes them feel bad

05:04:43 benkay: so we started saying "poorly engineered" to which i object because i'm a crap engineer

05:05:18 benkay: came to the conclusion that until people start identifying as piles of feces, the only acceptable bad word is "shitty" and then i remembered this one girl...

05:05:32 benkay: also someone pointed out that shit is healthy and good and helps you diagnose your internal gut flora state

05:05:36 *: benkay throws his hands up

05:06:07 benkay: that's all the log i get?

05:06:10 benkay: slackers

05:06:59 benkay: ;;ud "white girl wasted"

05:07:00 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=White%20Girl%20Wasted | To get completely drunk, wasted or sloshed to the point where you can no longer control yourself physically or mentally. Term originally given to younger white ...

05:07:09 pete_dushenski: benkay: some people identify as stupid << hardly. pretty sure everyone in north america think they're hawkings' able-bodied offspring

05:07:42 benkay: but "some"

05:07:49 benkay: "some" people might get offended

05:08:41 pete_dushenski: ofc, which is why you have to talk extra loud to make sure that no one misses your golden eggs

05:08:54 pete_dushenski: offending people is a gift

05:09:05 pete_dushenski: put that in the natphil diagram

05:09:34 benkay: mocking the youth for their idiocy is a core tenet of my educational philosophy

05:09:50 benkay: today, at least.

05:11:03 benkay: aight well i'm too tired to code, so i'm going to knock off and get up early tomorrow.

05:11:14 benkay: night pete_dushenski

05:11:30 pete_dushenski: cheers benkay

05:11:31 benkay: aw that's so pleasant! i type pete and it tabcompletes!

05:11:54 pete_dushenski: you're welcome :D

05:12:13 benkay: ;;rated pete_dushenski

05:12:13 gribble: You rated user pete_dushenski on Sun Apr 13 13:08:25 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: None.

05:12:29 pete_dushenski: see, everything swapped over

05:12:32 pete_dushenski: thanks be to nanotube !

05:13:33 benkay: ;;rated jurov

05:13:34 gribble: You rated user jurov on Sun Apr 13 13:06:17 2014, with a rating of 2, and supplied these additional notes: great to work with.

05:13:53 benkay: ;;rate jurov 3 keeps his word.

05:13:55 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user jurov has changed from 2 to 3.

05:16:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22400 @ 0.00081715 = 18.3042 BTC [+] {2}

05:20:11 ben_vulpes: <-- attn

05:20:20 ben_vulpes: ;;ident

05:20:21 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'ben_vulpes', with hostmask 'ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay', is identified as user 'benkay', with GPG key id 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA, key fingerprint 4F7907942CA8B89B01E25A762AFA1A9FD2D031DA, and bitcoin address None

05:21:05 ben_vulpes: nanotube: i'm signing off for the night, but dig this:

05:21:08 ben_vulpes: ;;eauth benkay

05:21:10 gribble: Request successful for user benkay, hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

05:21:21 ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:dea5a830caed3972cae01f44b360cd50298595fea0ebe6c6a5872ba0

05:21:23 gribble: You are now authenticated for user benkay with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

05:30:13 mircea_popescu: o look pete

05:30:19 mircea_popescu: ben vulpes what happened here!

05:34:04 mircea_popescu: xanthyos: so what about tit video, at 24 frames per second. does that go for 2.4 btc/s? << lol nope.

05:34:14 mircea_popescu: RetroUpriser: but they wouldnt be coming into assests << then they wouldn't be getting paid.

05:34:59 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: anyway, he seems to be authed << you srsly brokt it, this isn't how it's supposed to work.

05:35:18 mircea_popescu: o nm. itis huh.

05:36:24 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Step One, Give irc bot a new function. Step two work forever on maintaining and refining it. << it's not JUST bots you know.

05:36:54 mircea_popescu: dub: http://imgur.com/ww3ODOd << surprisingly, no c0ks in thre ?!

05:36:55 assbot: imgur: the simple image sharer

05:38:50 mircea_popescu: mike_c: the forum is probably rubbing off on me already. << was the valve ready to pop earlier from that ?

05:39:57 mircea_popescu: RebeccaBitcoin: Right, so he's been sleeping for like 19 hours << side effects of a good bj.

05:46:16 mircea_popescu: http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com/ << whoa pankkake what happened there, i got banned ?

05:46:16 assbot: Assets Assimilated

05:48:19 mircea_popescu: RebeccaBitcoin: Oh ok sorry if I bothered you. As my name suggests I am a sub and was looking << is this the russian bride scam being marketed to women now ?

05:51:02 mircea_popescu: bah so what i just missed everyone ?

05:51:07 mircea_popescu: ;;seen mike_c

05:51:07 gribble: mike_c was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 14 minutes, and 34 seconds ago: !up jborkl

05:53:23 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo: Step One, Give irc bot a new function. Step two work forever on maintaining and refining it. << it's not JUST bots you know. << of course

05:54:18 mircea_popescu: RebeccaBitcoin: coolpete would have promoted the scam << little miss wry sarcasm's kinda fun to read huh. except when she fucks up the pasting.

05:58:33 mircea_popescu: Duffer1: shit it's not pronounced "you"? my poor haikus :(( << it was just a sly lead-in for the next line

05:59:26 mircea_popescu: benkay: fuck all of my different clipboards <<< aaaahahahaahah. penisfooted wolf, srsly ?

06:03:03 mircea_popescu: http://37.media.tumblr.com/c83f6b073c3a71da6018c18c558003ab/tumblr_mowggbbqh81qlne6uo1_500.jpg

06:04:06 cazalla: damn, new ISIS video is more brutal than the last

06:04:54 mircea_popescu: kinda the point of isis neh ?

06:04:58 cazalla: videos are 30m video effects, 2m of GTA style, not sure if they want to show off the killing or video editing skills more

06:05:14 mircea_popescu: lol

06:05:21 cazalla: http://youtu.be/JABN4e4YwuA?t=33m45s

06:05:22 assbot: ‫ | | ‬‎ - YouTube

06:05:59 BingoBoingo: !up Petrodriller

06:07:30 BingoBoingo: The Derposphere http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2bzr1h/coindesk_rips_off_another_honest_author_refuses/

06:07:31 assbot: @CoinDesk rips off another honest author. Refuses to acknowledge that it did. : Bitcoin

06:08:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 980 @ 0.00282983 = 2.7732 BTC [-] {9}

06:08:33 mircea_popescu: lol

06:10:16 BingoBoingo: Also arsehole is actually the safest place http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2byx1x/the_stolen_600_bitcoin_lesson_identity_theft/

06:10:17 assbot: The stolen 600+ Bitcoin Lesson, Identity Theft, Nothing is 100% Safe, but youll Survive : Bitcoin

06:11:27 mircea_popescu: "Ukrainians excell at robbing, selling out, dismantling and destroying their own country; but achieving a specific, precise result as part of a highly coordinated mission? Not so much."

06:11:35 mircea_popescu: now why;'s this guy being a gratuitous asshole ?

06:13:23 BingoBoingo: !up Guest48838

06:16:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18632 @ 0.00081311 = 15.1499 BTC [-] {4}

06:21:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 2160 @ 0.0008 = 1.728 BTC [+]

06:41:47 BingoBoingo: !up fats_cd03_

06:44:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 18 @ 0.18620797 = 3.3517 BTC [+] {7}

06:50:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.18889989 = 1.5112 BTC [+]

07:07:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18725 @ 0.000809 = 15.1485 BTC [-]

07:19:05 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

07:19:07 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 584.93, Best ask: 586.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.50000, Last trade: 586.43, 24 hour volume: 8636.32621492, 24 hour low: 570.5, 24 hour high: 596.0, 24 hour vwap: 582.088195257

07:23:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.1888999 = 1.3223 BTC [+] {2}

07:26:53 BingoBoingo: %t

07:26:56 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 250 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 12k High: 270 Low: 210 VWAP: 210

07:30:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18889999 = 0.9445 BTC [+]

07:31:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.189 = 1.134 BTC [+]

07:42:16 mircea_popescu: !up coinboy

07:43:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.189048 = 4.7262 BTC [+] {2}

07:44:12 coinboy: long on ether brought me here

07:44:25 mircea_popescu: aha.

07:44:45 mircea_popescu: !s dpaste

07:44:45 assbot: 68 results for 'dpaste' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=dpaste

07:44:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.1897 = 0.7588 BTC [+] {2}

07:45:14 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770333

07:45:15 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

07:47:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18995 = 1.1397 BTC [+] {3}

07:56:08 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 7372 @ 0.0008 = 5.8976 BTC [+]

08:12:57 pankkake: re AndrewJackson's quit message, I find https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/334646859920441346 but not the original - did he delete it?

08:16:44 mircea_popescu: pankkake hey did you take fraudsters off teh blogs ?

08:16:58 pankkake: no, when I went on it it was there

08:17:36 pankkake: however I always delete the cache before updating, so if the feed has an error, it will temporarily disappear I suppose

08:20:55 mircea_popescu: oh teh feed has an error ?

08:21:28 mircea_popescu: ah i see it. maybe it didn't answer timely something like that ?

08:21:34 mircea_popescu: had some load issues today

08:22:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.18999 = 0.95 BTC [-]

08:22:43 pankkake: perhaps. I keep the last update log but not the previous ones. that's why there's a cache but it can't update properly because of the delay of posts appearing in the feed

08:23:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.18999833 = 1.14 BTC [+] {3}

08:23:52 mircea_popescu: aha. aite.

08:24:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.19 = 1.33 BTC [+] {5}

08:27:46 mircea_popescu: ;;seen pierre_rochard

08:27:46 gribble: pierre_rochard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 4 days, 9 hours, 27 minutes, and 16 seconds ago: mircea_popescu: ah, well I’ll myself out then

08:27:57 mircea_popescu: check it out, dood srsly got butthurt.

08:29:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 68 @ 0.19230146 = 13.0765 BTC [+] {5}

08:30:34 BingoBoingo: What over?

08:30:52 cazalla: don't copy that floppy?

08:31:29 BingoBoingo: Ah

08:33:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19925 @ 0.00081199 = 16.1789 BTC [+]

08:37:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 23 @ 0.20048694 = 4.6112 BTC [+] {13}

08:39:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.205 = 1.025 BTC [+]

08:41:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.205 = 1.435 BTC [+] {2}

08:41:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27650 @ 0.00080972 = 22.3888 BTC [-] {3}

08:56:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 258 @ 0.00196206 = 0.5062 BTC [+] {2}

09:00:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 25 @ 0.21387198 = 5.3468 BTC [+] {5}

09:01:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.22 = 0.88 BTC [+]

09:06:56 punkman: http://mainichi.jp/english/english/features/news/20140726p2a00m0na014000c.html

09:06:58 assbot: Steel mill worker reveals blocking view of U.S. aircraft on day of Nagasaki atomic bombing -

09:16:15 BingoBoingo: punkman: Interesting

09:21:28 punkman: and for that day the gasenwagen comes: "A dry powder fire extinguisher is said to be a good improvised system for production of aerosol effective even in far infrared."

09:25:59 BingoBoingo: http://t.co/PaSE9njT1X

09:25:59 assbot: How to take over the computer of any Java (or Clojure or Scala) developer - Ontoillogical

09:29:05 pankkake: many language-specific package managers don't check anything either

09:30:29 jurov: what kind of fire extinguisher? not CO2, imo

09:30:52 jurov: ah dry powder

09:32:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 17 @ 0.22664704 = 3.853 BTC [+] {6}

09:33:31 BingoBoingo: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/07/28/your-craft-whiskey-is-probably-from-a-factory-distillery-in-indiana.html

09:33:31 assbot: Your Craft Whiskey Is Probably From a Factory Distillery in Indiana - The Daily Beast

09:35:10 punkman: heh "whiskey aged longer than a distillery has been in business is one of the telltale signs that the “distiller” is actually just bottling someone else’s product."

09:38:23 BingoBoingo: I'm actually wondering now about how one just bulk purchase's that rye for personal consumption

09:41:00 punkman: family of friend buys 1000L of wine every year and it just about lasts until the next time

09:42:09 BingoBoingo: Lulz -> The prize for the most upfront bottler has to go to Blaum Bros. of Galena, Illinois, which market Knotter?read ?not our??Bourbon with the transparent admission ?We didn?t distill this bourbon. Nope, not a drop.?

09:44:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 12 @ 0.23352499 = 2.8023 BTC [+] {3}

09:45:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 29 @ 0.23999655 = 6.9599 BTC [+] {2}

09:46:27 mircea_popescu: lulzy java

09:53:40 BingoBoingo: ;;google site:fraudsters.com spam

09:53:40 gribble: Effectual spam filtering for WordPress pe fraudsters - Un blog de ...: ; Spam and malware, let's be cool together. pe fraudsters - Un blog de ...: ; And another one bites the dust : bitmarket.eu pe fraudsters - Un blog ...:

09:54:45 punkman: http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/07/28/online-tool-for-young-bankers-raises-1-million-in-funding/

09:58:26 mircea_popescu: ahaha.

09:58:45 mircea_popescu: 1mn to "share and collaborate" without needing to email excel anymore ?

09:58:57 dub: with scotch its not uncommon for old stock to be sold with a distillery

09:59:35 mircea_popescu: anyway, that's all the excitement i can take in one day. later assetteers/

09:59:54 dub: uh

10:00:40 dub: assetteers sounds like part of a porno name

10:00:43 punkman: dub, if you have old stock you probably don't need to come up with shit like "al capone's favourite hooch"

10:01:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32500 @ 0.0008065 = 26.2113 BTC [-] {2}

10:01:18 dub: yes well, what you are talking about is not even whisky

10:01:25 BingoBoingo: dub: Well, with scotch selling whisky from distillery to distillery (or simply to blenders) is rather standard

10:02:16 BingoBoingo: !up CheckDavid

10:02:19 BingoBoingo: !up belcher

10:03:59 BingoBoingo: !up pogakuofie

10:05:45 pogakuofie: hi

10:05:51 pogakuofie: thanks dde

10:06:17 punkman: what happens when Diageo buys the old family distillery? does the product change or do they make sure it doesn't?

10:06:59 BingoBoingo: punkman: It's hard to say. It seems the article mentioned one case where the switched to outsourcing it.

10:07:16 dub: depends what they buy it for, vast majority of single malt ends up in blends

10:07:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://theumlaut.com/2014/07/29/a-gentle-introduction-to-neoreaction-for-libertarians/

10:07:25 dub: ie, johnny red

10:08:28 punkman: well say Lagavulin, I wonder, was it better before Diageo bought it?

10:09:32 pankkake: "Their freakish messages seem almost tailored to demand attention in our outrage-driven world of social media signaling." eheh. outrage-driven is clearly the right qualifier

10:10:04 dub: probably the same or better, they would look to preserve the distinctive brand but have a lot more stock to choose from

10:14:58 dub: well no, in that case it wont have changed

10:19:36 BingoBoingo: !up wyrdmantis

10:20:11 BingoBoingo: Hello wyrdmantis

10:20:21 wyrdmantis: hello

10:20:44 wyrdmantis: i'm studying the wiki :9

10:20:52 BingoBoingo: Cool

10:22:06 punkman: http://cdn.foodbeast.com.s3.amazonaws.com/content/uploads/2013/09/barrel-of-whiskey.jpg < $10k for a barrel, what a scam

10:33:44 pogakuofie: i can get a thing the article what is it abt??

10:35:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 33 @ 0.24439392 = 8.065 BTC [+] {5}

10:37:02 fluffypony: lolwut

10:39:49 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 150 @ 0.00409999 = 0.615 BTC [-] {2}

10:40:06 punkman: http://www.wired.com/2014/07/hacking-google-maps/

10:40:07 assbot: How Google Map Hackers Can Destroy a Business at Will | Business | WIRED

10:40:58 punkman: "Anyone Googling Serbian Crown, or plugging it into Google Maps, was told incorrectly that the restaurant was closed on the weekends"

10:42:41 punkman: I guess if that's all it takes to run you out of business, you were out of business already

10:42:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 346 @ 0.00281501 = 0.974 BTC [-]

10:45:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 563 @ 0.00280089 = 1.5769 BTC [-] {7}

10:46:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.25983333 = 2.3385 BTC [+] {3}

10:47:53 punkman: http://valleywag.gawker.com/how-a-hacker-intercepted-fbi-and-secret-service-calls-w-1531334747

10:47:54 assbot: How a Hacker Intercepted FBI and Secret Service Calls With Google Maps

10:49:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.263 = 1.315 BTC [+]

10:53:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 16 @ 0.26613124 = 4.2581 BTC [+] {4}

10:53:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 450 @ 0.0027438 = 1.2347 BTC [-] {5}

10:54:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.27289999 = 0.5458 BTC [+]

11:09:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 279 @ 0.0027 = 0.7533 BTC [-] {3}

11:10:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 2000 @ 0.0026219 = 5.2438 BTC [-] {5}

11:11:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 450 @ 0.0026164 = 1.1774 BTC [-] {6}

11:12:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 40 @ 0.29389454 = 11.7558 BTC [+] {10}

11:13:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 343 @ 0.00253704 = 0.8702 BTC [+] {14}

11:22:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13849 @ 0.00080661 = 11.1707 BTC [+]

11:30:38 chetty: google is down?

11:31:20 dub: no

11:32:12 fluffypony: !isup google.com

11:32:22 fluffypony: !isitdown google.com

11:32:25 kakobrekla: optimist

11:32:26 fluffypony: ffs.

11:32:31 kakobrekla: ;;isitdown google.com

11:32:32 gribble: google.com is up

11:32:41 fluffypony: gribble needs a single command prefix

11:32:55 fluffypony: I can never remember whether it's ! or ,, or ;; for a particular command

11:32:58 kakobrekla: you were trying to call assbot

11:33:08 kakobrekla: ! assbot ;; gribble

11:33:14 kakobrekla: not so hard.

11:33:25 fluffypony: nope - for some commands gribble *only* responds to ,,

11:33:35 fluffypony: if you try ;;bg in -otc it won't work, but ,,bg will

11:33:44 kakobrekla: yeah but otc is retarded

11:33:47 fluffypony: lol

11:33:52 kakobrekla: ;;later tell fluffypony see it works

11:33:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

11:33:59 fluffypony: !8ball is otc retarded?

11:34:04 fluffypony: ;;8ball is otc retarded?

11:34:05 gribble: Unlikely.

11:34:12 fluffypony: sorry kakobrekla, gribble disagrees

11:34:26 chetty: odd I get error pages for google.com.ar

11:34:50 fluffypony: works for me

11:34:57 fluffypony: Buscar con Google!

11:35:27 chetty: ah its back now, that was wierd dont think I ever saw google down before

11:35:34 fluffypony: "Me siento con suerte" sounds like the title of a poem, doesn't have the same ring to it as "I'm feeling lucky"

11:35:37 kakobrekla: ;;8ball is otc retarded?

11:35:37 gribble: No.

11:35:42 kakobrekla: fpt

11:35:42 kakobrekla: lies

11:36:15 kakobrekla: never trust a robot

11:36:59 chetty: indeed, you never know who wrote the program that runs that robot

11:41:20 fluffypony: in this case we do

11:41:26 fluffypony: plus the source is on github

11:41:31 fluffypony: so we know who to blame :-op

11:41:48 kakobrekla: how do you know its those sources that run gribble

11:44:48 kakobrekla: speaking of robots n shit, anyone saw transcendence, this new flick?

11:44:58 chetty: kakobrekla, +1

11:54:20 kakobrekla: !up pogakuofie

11:55:18 chetty: dang I lost my own voice when I wasnt looking :P

11:55:27 kakobrekla: lol

11:56:48 pogakuofie: oko

11:56:51 pogakuofie: thank

11:57:41 pogakuofie: anyone can help with run the gnupg on windows

11:57:42 pogakuofie: ??

11:57:58 chetty: pogakuofie, needs some help with gen keys on windows

11:58:17 fluffypony: kakobrekla: yes - it was lame

11:58:22 kakobrekla: did you ask keybase pogakuofie ?

11:58:33 pogakuofie: yea chett

11:58:54 pogakuofie: keybase??

11:59:00 pogakuofie: who or what is that

12:01:27 kakobrekla: ;;google gpg4win

12:01:28 gribble: Gpg4win - Secure email and file encryption with GnuPG for Windows: ; Gpg4win - Download Gpg4win: ; Gpg4win - About Gpg4win:

12:01:31 kakobrekla: use that.

12:02:31 pogakuofie: ok

12:05:57 kakobrekla: !up Ukyo

12:06:06 kakobrekla: why are you such a dick and just tell em you wont pay?

12:06:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23000 @ 0.00080459 = 18.5056 BTC [-]

12:06:52 fluffypony: idle for 17 hours

12:09:17 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 9897 @ 0.0008 = 7.9176 BTC [+]

12:09:22 chetty: http://news.yahoo.com/default-looming-argentina-urges-calm-185650517.html

12:09:24 assbot: With new default looming, Argentina urges calm - Yahoo News

12:10:38 chetty: !up pogakuofie

12:11:19 pogakuofie: i have downloaded the kleopatra

12:11:24 pogakuofie: what do i do now

12:11:25 pogakuofie: ???

12:11:28 pogakuofie: nayone??

12:11:32 pogakuofie: anyone?

12:11:55 kakobrekla: !down pogakuofie

12:12:07 kakobrekla: cut down on the speed.

12:14:56 pankkake: read the wikis

12:21:46 punkman: reading is hard, let's go shopping

12:21:58 punkman: I mean, moiety should make a video tutorial

12:22:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.285 = 1.425 BTC [-]

12:22:46 punkman: oh there it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYJ-GdErX1c

12:22:46 assbot: Bitcoin-OTC Setup Guide for Windows - YouTube

12:33:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 300 @ 0.00286068 = 0.8582 BTC [-] {3}

12:36:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [+]

12:37:54 []bot: Bet placed: 1.34248108 BTC for No on "Bitcoin difficulty >= 72B on or before Christmas" http://bitbet.us/bet/990/ Odds: 30(Y):70(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.7332013 BTC. Current weight: 83,345.

12:41:10 kakobrekla: lol.

12:41:48 kakobrekla: !up eregister

12:41:51 kakobrekla: progress ?

12:46:30 fluffypony: hah hah

12:46:39 fluffypony: I'm nearly in tears

12:47:28 eregister: yes

12:51:05 eregister: get a liitle problem

12:51:37 eregister: after the decryption where did he get the information he pasted to get verified

12:51:39 eregister: ??

12:59:17 pankkake: you should send the line to gribble, in private or in a public chan

12:59:32 pankkake: but I'm not sure it's your question

12:59:58 eregister: i sent it to gribble

13:00:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.288 = 0.864 BTC [-]

13:00:08 eregister: and had to decrypt

13:00:13 eregister: some info

13:00:34 eregister: i did but dont know were to get the key to send back to get auth

13:00:54 pankkake: you have to decrypt it using GPG

13:01:03 eregister: yea i did

13:01:16 pankkake: then you only have to paste it back to gribble

13:01:21 eregister: then were do i get what i have to send back to get verified

13:01:22 eregister: ??

13:01:32 eregister: i did decrypt

13:01:39 eregister: but did not get any info

13:01:49 pankkake: you got a random string?

13:02:03 eregister: but some how in the video he got some info and pasted back

13:02:07 eregister: can you pls help

13:02:14 eregister: no

13:02:26 eregister: no radom string after a decrypted

13:02:38 pankkake: what did you get? you can paste it publicly

13:03:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.288 = 0.864 BTC [-]

13:03:13 eregister: it said no signatures are found

13:05:21 pankkake: I think you tried the wrong feature; you should decrypt, not verify

13:05:35 chetty: be sure you copy all including the dashes to decrypt

13:05:37 eregister: ok will try again

13:06:00 kakobrekla: or just paste the private key and someone here will do it for you.

13:06:07 eregister: is there anyother gpg add i can use

13:06:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.2899375 = 2.3195 BTC [+] {2}

13:06:15 eregister: instead or gpg.mit.edu

13:06:16 eregister: ??

13:07:07 pankkake: I don't understand the question, but you should use pool.sks-keyservers.net

13:07:54 fluffypony: lol Bollywood: http://imgur.com/a/6EMBE

13:07:55 assbot: Bollywood - Imgur

13:09:45 fluffypony: also: http://sel4.systems

13:09:46 assbot: Home | seL4

13:15:51 pankkake: !up eregister

13:16:09 eregister: what port pls

13:16:14 eregister: and http?

13:16:19 pankkake: default port and settings

13:16:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12850 @ 0.0008038 = 10.3288 BTC [-]

13:16:32 eregister: ok

13:19:31 []bot: Bet placed: 8 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 30(Y):70(N) by weight. Total bet: 37.00588622 BTC. Current weight: 30,547.

13:24:17 punkman: eww https://developers.google.com/startups/

13:24:17 assbot: Startup Launch

13:33:31 eregister: i decryted and got this freenode:#bitcoin-otc:2ec9bdb25df6b89034d729720b12c05bb386c69f46338b41b8538c6b

13:33:39 eregister: what do i do with it??

13:35:11 pankkake: great, now you say ;;gpg everify

13:35:22 eregister: ok

13:35:27 pankkake: either here or in private to gribble

13:35:59 eregister: says incorrect otp

13:36:19 eregister: incorrect one time password

13:36:22 *: kakobrekla thinks that by now pankkake earned all eregisters btc

13:39:17 pankkake: perhaps because you took too much time or changed your nick

13:39:22 pankkake: i.e. try again from the start

13:40:25 eregister: ok

13:42:34 asciilifeform: fluffypony: re: L4 (which is pretty old news in fact) and 'proof-carrying code' in general: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1390&cpage=1#comment-8471

13:42:36 assbot: Loper OS » Of Decaying Urbits.

13:43:02 jurov: imo miety could make video for cunt generation how to do the registration and gpg stuff under windows

13:43:09 jurov: or maybe there is one already

13:45:06 asciilifeform: fluffypony: let's also remember that 'general dynamics' is a premier USG brand.

13:45:28 *: asciilifeform waits for the inevitable 'but it's open source!'

13:47:41 kakobrekla: http://media.tumblr.com/a20bb19e108cdb186e59d870060f9532/tumblr_inline_n9gld3qBjC1rre22k.jpg

13:48:02 trixisowned: did you guys see

13:48:06 kakobrekla: no.

13:48:09 asciilifeform: kakobrekla: 'find some meat!'

13:48:23 trixisowned: ?Purchaser understands, that while the Ethereum Team will make reasonable efforts to complete the Ethereum software, it is possible that an official completed version of the Ethereum Platform may not be released and there may never be an operational Ethereum Platform.?

13:48:23 pankkake: cunt generation?

13:48:26 trixisowned: they removed this line

13:48:30 trixisowned: from the TOS

13:48:30 kakobrekla: asciilifeform the real gribble!

13:48:41 trixisowned: oops

13:48:45 trixisowned: i pasted wrong damn thing

13:48:46 trixisowned: sorry

13:48:55 trixisowned: ?We reserve the right to use up to 5000 BTC from the pre-sale while the pre-sale is running in order to speed up development. We may or may not take this option depending on community response; if done at all it will be done transparently.?

13:48:57 trixisowned: this is removed

13:48:59 trixisowned: completely

13:49:01 trixisowned: from the TOS

13:49:02 trixisowned: lol.

13:49:10 jurov: !s "cunt generation"

13:49:10 assbot: 1 results for '"cunt generation"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=%22cunt+generation%22

13:49:15 jurov: !s unt generation

13:49:16 assbot: 0 results for 'unt generation' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=unt+generation

13:49:19 jurov: !s cunt generation

13:49:19 assbot: 2 results for 'cunt generation' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=cunt+generation

13:49:21 pankkake: I suppose the ToS was never signed?

13:49:36 kakobrekla: sign the tos? its not like it means anything!

13:50:15 jurov: pankkake: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-07-2014#774344

13:50:16 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

13:50:22 pankkake: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=10-12-2013#415826 <= sell it to merzbow

13:50:22 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

13:51:00 jurov: kakobrekla: why the search failed? does it have profanity filter?

13:51:46 jurov: oh it actually worked

13:52:11 jurov: my brain is somehow too jumpy lately :/

13:53:26 kakobrekla: yeah, get one of those asciilifeform wave modulator phaser laser ion electrifying brain fixer

13:54:06 asciilifeform: but if you do, don't screw up the polarity...

13:54:14 kakobrekla: preorders open yet?

13:54:28 asciilifeform: lol

13:59:40 ThickAsThieves: <+trixisowned> this is removed //// it was a pretty retarded line to have in there

13:59:57 trixisowned: lol.

14:01:07 ThickAsThieves: probly removed cuz they wanna use whatever the fuck amount whenever the fuck

14:01:19 trixisowned: funny thing is

14:01:21 trixisowned: they forgot

14:01:25 trixisowned: to remove it from their blogs

14:01:51 ThickAsThieves: internet gets you every time

14:01:59 trixisowned: https://blog.ethereum.org/2014/07/22/launching-the-ether-sale/

14:02:00 assbot: ethereum blog | Launching the Ether Sale

14:02:05 trixisowned: http://i.imgur.com/5f0lt0m.png

14:02:07 trixisowned: if they do remove it

14:02:08 trixisowned: lol.

14:02:12 trixisowned: im gonna lol even more~

14:02:46 ThickAsThieves: i dont understand why the line was ever there though really

14:03:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4700 @ 0.00080459 = 3.7816 BTC [+]

14:09:12 kakobrekla: to give out the impression someone is overlooking

14:09:37 ThickAsThieves: “People can’t really afford to hold bitcoin for very long. You’ve got to pay rent at the end of the month in euros or dollars, you may even at this time convince your landlord to pay rent using the bitcoin network, but at at the same time, you may have market action that happens during those 15 days that means you can’t cover that anymore.”

14:09:44 ThickAsThieves: ~LOCK from Coinapult

14:10:25 ThickAsThieves: https://coinapult.com/locks/info

14:10:26 assbot: Coinapult

14:11:15 kakobrekla: for people who cant handle buy and sell button ?

14:11:24 kakobrekla: dunno

14:14:24 ThickAsThieves: for people-who-only-have-enuf-btc-to-pay-1-month-of-rent-yet-want-to-live-on-btc

14:22:43 kakobrekla: overly stupid in both cases.

14:26:27 ThickAsThieves: it's erik's thing right?

14:28:45 ThickAsThieves: http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonycuthbertson/2014/07/29/cryptokids-altcoins-apps-and-authors-aim-to-bring-bitcoin-to-children/?

14:28:46 assbot: CryptoKids: Altcoins, Apps And Authors Aim To Bring Bitcoin To Children - Forbes

14:29:14 ThickAsThieves: 'Describing themselves somewhat tweely as “tech tweenpreneurs”, JuJu, GiGi and JoJo have already authored more than 20 technology-related books aimed at children their own age. Now they have turned their focus on cryptocurrency through their Bitkidz website – the first ever bitcoin social media site for children'

14:37:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25000 @ 0.00080619 = 20.1548 BTC [+] {3}

14:44:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.298 = 0.596 BTC [+]

14:59:49 mike_c: should businesses be in the wot?

15:01:32 ThickAsThieves: i brought this up in the past

15:01:39 ThickAsThieves: my result is we need a new wot

15:02:00 Blazedout419: I think they should be

15:02:12 Blazedout419: or a seperate WOT for business...something

15:02:20 mike_c: !s from:ThickAsThieves "new wot"

15:02:21 assbot: 0 results for 'from:ThickAsThieves "new wot"' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3AThickAsThieves+%22new+wot%22

15:02:29 ThickAsThieves: !s better wot

15:02:30 assbot: 13 results for 'better wot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=better+wot

15:02:53 ThickAsThieves: i have a whole 20% done article on it

15:02:54 ThickAsThieves: ...

15:03:13 ThickAsThieves: !s decentralized wot

15:03:13 assbot: 4 results for 'decentralized wot' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=decentralized+wot

15:03:16 mike_c: why new wot? what's wrong with the existing one?

15:03:31 ThickAsThieves: not decentralized

15:03:42 mike_c: ok, but that's separate from having a business account

15:03:48 ThickAsThieves: need support for more fields

15:03:50 Blazedout419: it does depend on nano's trust

15:03:55 ThickAsThieves: integration with other systems/wots

15:03:56 chetty: businesses are in the end people, the people that run them

15:04:21 rithm: ;;rate tat -1 mutiny

15:04:21 Blazedout419: how do you combat ratings trolls?

15:04:22 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

15:04:23 ThickAsThieves: the issue i dont like about adding businesses is the yelp phenomenon

15:04:33 ThickAsThieves: where itll be skewed to bad reviews

15:04:39 ThickAsThieves: you see,

15:04:44 mike_c: WoT is all about gettrust, not getrating

15:04:44 danielpbarron: Blazedout419, ignore them?

15:04:45 ThickAsThieves: the nature of yelp is negativity

15:04:51 ThickAsThieves: and WoT is positivity

15:04:55 ThickAsThieves: would hate to ruin that

15:05:02 Blazedout419: for a business bad ratings can hurt more than for a regular user

15:05:35 ThickAsThieves: it's certainly a topic that could use more discourse and work \

15:05:41 ThickAsThieves: imo at least

15:05:54 ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot

15:05:57 ThickAsThieves: more fields

15:05:57 Blazedout419: for example in OTC some scammers will make new accts over and over just to crush someones wot score

15:06:03 danielpbarron: if your "business" is harmed by the ratings of trolls, your business was probably going poorly anyway

15:06:03 ThickAsThieves: total identity system

15:06:10 ThickAsThieves: with voluntary amounts of data

15:06:36 danielpbarron: Blazedout419, they can't crush your L2..

15:06:42 ThickAsThieves: i was about to say, but how does a business claim it's listing?

15:06:44 ThickAsThieves: but

15:06:51 ThickAsThieves: maybe they shouldnt be allowed

15:07:02 Blazedout419: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=tim-tams <-- legit guy that pissed off 1 scammer

15:07:03 assbot: Rating Details for User 'tim-tams'

15:07:30 Blazedout419: danielpbarron true, but many only look at L1 and ratings

15:07:39 Blazedout419: most do not bother to look at L2

15:07:48 Blazedout419: !up BigBitz

15:07:56 danielpbarron: Blazedout419, looks fine from my point of view: http://serajewelks.bitcoin-otc.com/trustgraph.php?source=danielpbarron&dest=tim-tams

15:07:56 assbot: #bitcoin-otc Web of Trust - Trust graph

15:07:57 mike_c: nanotube: why show "total points" on rating page? i thought that was supposed to be a meaningless number.

15:08:02 chetty: failure to do your DD is no excuse

15:08:09 danielpbarron: Blazedout419, most are idiots; why should they be the rule instead of the exception?

15:08:19 BigBitz: ;;gettrust Blazedout419

15:08:19 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask Blazedout419!~Rogue@76-243-42-60.lightspeed.cntmoh.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user BigBitz to user Blazedout419: Level 1: 8, Level 2: 73 via 49 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=BigBitz&dest=Blazedout419 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=Blazedout419 | Rated since: Sat May 18 17:05:13 2013

15:08:21 ThickAsThieves: i dont have an issue with total points

15:08:21 BigBitz: looks fine.

15:08:28 BigBitz: points aren't prizes.

15:08:29 ThickAsThieves: but there should also be weighted points

15:08:33 nanotube: mike_c: grandfathered in from the early days. :)

15:08:37 Blazedout419: not me BigBitz talking about rtings abuse and the WOT

15:08:40 mike_c: there is weighted points. it's gettrust

15:08:47 BigBitz: Blazedout419 look at my ratings.

15:08:53 BigBitz: I have about 8-10 negative 10s.

15:08:55 Blazedout419: how 1 mad person can wreck a total score...and most are too dumb to notice it

15:08:59 BigBitz: sucks... but not many look at it.

15:09:03 ThickAsThieves: well 10 points from mp is not the same as from ninjashogun

15:09:08 ThickAsThieves: and that could be somewhat quantified

15:09:11 danielpbarron: ThickAsThieves, the points already *are* weighted; a user in your L1 can only pass along as much rating to someone's L2 score as you have given them

15:09:13 BigBitz: 10 points from ninjashogun is a gift.

15:09:22 mike_c: it is quantified! gettrust uses your edge weights as weighting.

15:09:28 ThickAsThieves: ah

15:09:30 danielpbarron: Blazedout419, the total score is practically meaningless

15:09:39 BigBitz: ;;ratingsystem getrating BigBitz

15:09:40 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. User BigBitz, rated since Fri Apr 26 11:13:53 2013. Cumulative rating 430, from 213 total ratings. Received ratings: 202 positive, 11 negative. Sent ratings: 186 positive, 59 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=BigBitz

15:09:42 BigBitz: w00t.

15:09:45 BigBitz: 11 negative all from scammers.

15:10:01 Blazedout419: I just think for a business the scores matter more

15:10:03 danielpbarron: if you rate someone +5, and they rate someone else +10, only up to +5 will get passed along to the L2

15:11:09 ThickAsThieves: one problem i have for my vision of a decentralized wot, is when i simulate it in my end, it turns into a sort of international passport system over time and could totally remove anonymity from so many areas of life, and well, is that what we really want?

15:11:17 ThickAsThieves: end=head

15:11:22 danielpbarron: the one potential problem I see happening with nanotube's WoT, is that a small majority can prevent a user from even giving ratings..

15:11:31 Blazedout419: yes

15:11:43 Blazedout419: that is an issue

15:11:48 danielpbarron: but that's something he can easily remove without changing how the WoT works

15:12:18 danielpbarron: i think all users should be able to give ratings; doesn't matter if they are trolls or scammers

15:12:23 Blazedout419: nano is very fair though so it has not been an issue from what I have seen

15:12:46 rithm: +i think all users should be able to give ratings; doesn't matter if they are trolls or scammers

15:12:48 rithm: no.

15:12:50 danielpbarron: i'm on the verge of not being able to rate anymore because of idiots like you ( Blazedout419 ) in -otc

15:13:05 mike_c: ;;ratingsystem getrating danielpbarron

15:13:06 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask danielpbarron!~dpb@c-71-232-150-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net . User danielpbarron, rated since Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013. Cumulative rating 1, from 28 total ratings. Received ratings: 21 positive, 7 negative. Sent ratings: 78 positive, 18 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron

15:13:19 rithm: where does this everyone has a voice mentality come from?

15:13:19 Blazedout419: well danielpbarron not going to beat the dead horse here, but your ratings are a joke

15:13:26 rithm: ^

15:13:30 Blazedout419: we will agree to disagree

15:13:31 rithm: ^^

15:13:52 danielpbarron: no we will not; you may..

15:13:59 ThickAsThieves: lol

15:14:03 Blazedout419: that is fine

15:14:04 chetty: where does this everyone has a voice mentality come from?//equality notions

15:14:13 mike_c: you did let those two idiots talk in here yesterday daniel..

15:14:21 rithm: not every person, bot, or program gets to leave some ratings trail

15:14:30 rithm: i can walk into the NYSE and call people idiots

15:14:35 rithm: *can't

15:14:41 danielpbarron: mike_c, yeh; that was my bad; I know them IRL; lesson learned there..

15:14:43 rithm: no one will document that and take it seriously

15:14:50 rithm: why would you want to initiate it here

15:14:54 BigBitz: get out rithm!

15:14:56 BigBitz: no idiots!

15:14:56 BigBitz: :D

15:15:02 BigBitz: NYSE RIP :(

15:15:16 danielpbarron: anyway; the WoT isn't harmed by scammers or trolls; it harms nothing to let anyone give a rating

15:15:18 rithm: that's stupidiest thing i've ever heard come from this channel

15:15:24 rithm: and i've heard a lot of stupid shit

15:15:45 rithm: but letting joe schmoe leave ratings for people who've been around the block for x years is moronic

15:15:54 Blazedout419: agreed

15:15:55 danielpbarron: scammers aren't in my L1; I don't care what ratings they give..

15:16:11 danielpbarron: rithm, joe schmoe isn't in my L1.. what's the problem??

15:16:22 mike_c: rithm: but it's only harmful if 'total points' is a thing. joe schmoe isn't going to change thhe gettrust between you and others.

15:16:32 danielpbarron: ^ ++

15:16:36 rithm: so this is a L1/L2 difference of opinions

15:16:59 danielpbarron: yes and your opinion is incorrect

15:17:04 rithm: so in theory i agree with you because it's already happened to me and no fucks were given

15:17:10 rithm: am i identified

15:17:17 rithm: ;;ident

15:17:18 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'rithm', with hostmask 'rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm', is identified as user 'jcpham', with GPG key id C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, key fingerprint F7299BD73879E866613EAB24C71FB5ED6ACE04AF, and bitcoin address 157CrafPv8oGC7f5vVFuLnE1BgDYUND4hq

15:17:32 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kDK0wlEJvU

15:17:32 assbot: Elementary School Flop - YouTube

15:17:37 rithm: lots of joe schmoes tagged me

15:18:18 rithm: ;;ratingsystem getrating jcpham

15:18:18 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm . CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. User jcpham, rated since Fri Nov 11 12:35:04 2011. Cumulative rating 147, from 101 total ratings. Received ratings: 95 positive, 6 negative. Sent ratings: 101 positive, 21 negative. Details: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jcpham

15:19:01 rithm: so my cumulative is -70 because of bullshit joe schmoes with sand in their vagina

15:19:14 rithm: but your point is valid, it makes no difference

15:19:46 mike_c: it says cum 147..

15:20:14 danielpbarron: well, it sorta does make a difference at the moment, because nanotube won't let you even give a rating if your score goes negative (i think)

15:20:24 rithm: yes and it's -70 because of 7 shill accounts

15:20:37 rithm: and if that person made 7 more shill accounts

15:20:48 danielpbarron: well nanotube should make it so you can always give ratings, or maybe base it on an L2 thing like assbot does

15:20:59 jurov: ThickAsThieves> one problem i have... etc..<< you seem to dream about some opaque oracle that will issue trustable rating info for anonymous identities

15:20:59 mike_c: danielpbarron: it is. l2 to nanotube

15:21:06 rithm: one entity can complete ruin a cumulative rating in your "free for all" system

15:21:14 danielpbarron: oh; then nevermind

15:21:49 rithm: i myself may or maynot have 14 shill accounts for ratings offsets

15:21:52 rithm: checks and balances

15:22:09 punkman: rithm, so how would you stop the shills?

15:22:28 Blazedout419: ;;gettrust nanotube jcpham

15:22:28 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm. CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user jcpham: Level 1: 3, Level 2: 57 via 34 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=jcpham | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jcpham | Rated since: Fri Nov 11 12:35:04 2011

15:22:31 rithm: idenitity verification, not allow multiple accounts of some sort is the only solution i know of

15:22:35 rithm: but how do you implement that

15:22:38 ThickAsThieves: jurov i dont understand what you said, probably because you misunderstood what i said

15:22:45 Blazedout419: It would be hard to shut him up :)

15:22:51 danielpbarron: it's already solved; none of your shills are in my L1 (i think)

15:22:54 rithm: ;;gettrust solves it at L2

15:22:54 gribble: (gettrust [] ) -- Get trust paths for , starting from . If is not supplied, your own nick is used as the source. See http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/OTC_Rating_System#Notes_about_gettrust

15:23:17 jurov: ThickAsThieves i understood it as you dislike the need not to be anonymous for web of trust to work

15:23:27 ThickAsThieves: no

15:23:29 artifexd: rithm: not allowing multiple accounts is not possible

15:23:44 ThickAsThieves: i dislike the extreme which becomes possible with a "better" wot

15:23:53 ThickAsThieves: like this:

15:24:16 rithm: i do not have a solution but i think entry into the wot should be guarded

15:24:22 rithm: i hate to be exclusionary but

15:24:37 rithm: some people can't behave

15:24:56 danielpbarron: rithm, it already is gaurded; you need to be in nanotube's L2 to be able to give a rating apparently

15:25:07 rithm: ha

15:25:09 ThickAsThieves: Say the WoT is decentralized, supports more fields of data, has full API for integration for things like logging in to facebook or visiting Italy. The stronger and more prevelant the WoT gets, the more likely it is to become a requirement

15:25:21 ThickAsThieves: now, suppose that requirement come at request of governments

15:25:27 ThickAsThieves: ot the tentacles of Google Lyf

15:25:31 ThickAsThieves: or*

15:25:39 ThickAsThieves: now you can't escape the system

15:25:40 Blazedout419: ;;gettrust nanotube danielpbarron

15:25:41 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask danielpbarron!~dpb@c-71-232-150-212.hsd1.ma.comcast.net. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user danielpbarron: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=danielpbarron | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=danielpbarron | Rated since: Thu Mar 21 17:26:04 2013

15:25:54 artifexd: some people can't behave << Especially when they are on the internet and feel like there are no repercussions

15:25:55 danielpbarron: yep, Blazedout419 can silence me right now

15:26:07 danielpbarron: bump me from a -2 to a -3 and i can't rate anymore :<

15:26:18 Blazedout419: Like I said I am over it

15:26:19 nanotube: it has to be <0 to block.

15:26:34 rithm: right artifexd. i sortof behave here because my peers are watching and i'd hate for someone to think I'm not a person of my word

15:26:43 rithm: but some people do not have this moral compass

15:26:45 punkman: ;;rate danielpbarron 1 #b-a regular

15:26:46 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.

15:26:56 danielpbarron: :D

15:27:43 jurov: ThickAsThieves: this already happens as rap sheet and various no-fly blacklists, etc.

15:27:58 ThickAsThieves: sure

15:28:08 ThickAsThieves: but is that good?

15:28:21 rithm: this whole WoT thing has gotten complex over time and usage. but I basically am on the mpoe side of the fence and i think these "bitcoin wot's" need to be pay-to-pay

15:28:27 rithm: *pay-to-play

15:28:40 rithm: initially i was not

15:28:45 ThickAsThieves: pay to rate scammers?

15:28:48 ThickAsThieves: no thanks

15:28:52 rithm: pay a fee to enter

15:28:57 ThickAsThieves: so a coin

15:29:03 rithm: a token of some sort

15:29:06 danielpbarron: maybe require that all WoT users have a Bitcoin address associated that has a balance of X amount

15:29:07 ThickAsThieves: like namecoin wot

15:29:18 punkman: rithm, not enough people for that I think

15:29:30 rithm: probably not

15:29:35 punkman: unless you are into circlejerks

15:29:44 jurov: the solution is to not have one global wot for everything

15:29:46 ThickAsThieves: i'd donate money to a proper effort to make such things

15:29:52 rithm: right then we just devolve into some sort of ruling wot class

15:29:57 kakobrekla: but when bitcoin started, there werent enough people for that as well, just a circlejerk

15:29:59 rithm: i don't have a solution sorry

15:30:55 punkman: kakobrekla, so what if you had to pay $500 to download bitcoin.exe then?

15:31:15 rithm: no one downloads bitcoin.exe

15:31:34 kakobrekla: punkman 30 btc mpex entry fee was pocket change at some point.

15:31:44 ThickAsThieves: the only way to make it have a cost is to do it like namecoin

15:31:44 danielpbarron: you don't have to charge for entry to make it cost prohibitive for scammers; just require they associate with a Bitcoin address that has a positive balance; kinda like a proof-of-stake

15:31:56 ThickAsThieves: probly...

15:32:12 rithm: making it cost prohibitive to shill ratings is the key i think

15:32:30 rithm: back to identity verification

15:32:33 punkman: rithm, takes a lot of time to build up shill accounts as it is

15:32:40 ThickAsThieves: it needs to be more than entry fee

15:32:43 ThickAsThieves: must be recurring

15:32:56 artifexd: There was an anti-sockpuppet scheme that revolved around committing bitcoin for a certain amount of time. I'm having trouble finding the details right now.

15:33:04 rithm: does it punkman? because you used to be able to rate one with another

15:33:13 rithm: then i created 12 more with btc addresses

15:33:18 rithm: and rated all those

15:33:57 rithm: maybe i've just seen it done so much and all the exploits and loopholes are closed now

15:34:07 punkman: still need to get first account in nanotube's L2, then if you rate a dozen, you are kinda obvious

15:34:19 danielpbarron: well each account would need to have a unique address associated with it; you can't share an address between acounts.. that would defeat the purpose

15:35:00 rithm: this being in nano's L2 is new

15:35:40 rithm: or it is news to me

15:35:45 punkman: it's still perfectly possible, but scammers don't usually have long attention spans

15:35:54 Blazedout419: new users can not rate now unless they have a rating

15:36:04 artifexd: nanotube: Can you confirm that one has to be in your L2 in order to rate others?

15:36:09 BigBitz: No.

15:36:11 BigBitz: That's wrong.

15:36:16 rithm: i thought it was

15:36:19 BigBitz: You don't /have/ to be in nano L2 to rate.

15:36:31 BigBitz: You can STOP people by negrating if nano is in your L1 though.

15:36:34 rithm: if you are smart you can build your own shill rating army

15:36:34 Blazedout419: you have to have a rating to rate?

15:37:19 rithm: idk i'm just a poor pawn.

15:37:22 rithm: let the ops figure it out

15:37:23 danielpbarron: in order to build up such an army, you'd have to convince other users to rate them; otherwise they all get cut off with your main account

15:37:28 Blazedout419: if nano's L2 is negative you can not rate

15:37:35 rithm: oic

15:37:40 rithm: so if nanotube burns you

15:37:41 punkman: right "Only people who already have a trust rating in the system can rate other users. "

15:37:46 rithm: your rating privileges are revoked

15:37:51 rithm: that makes sense

15:37:53 Blazedout419: yes

15:37:55 danielpbarron: not just nanotube; if anyone in his L2 burns you

15:38:00 rithm: +1

15:38:05 Blazedout419: correct

15:38:05 rithm: good solution to a problem

15:38:06 danielpbarron: err, L1*

15:38:15 Blazedout419: his L1 users hurt if they neg you

15:38:31 rithm: his L1 is pretty tight tho iirc

15:38:43 danielpbarron: idk, it has Blazedout419 in it :p

15:38:44 Blazedout419: yes...he does not toss rating around

15:38:54 rithm: those would be good "decision makers"

15:39:04 nanotube: if you have l1+l2 from me that is <0, you cannot rate.

15:39:21 nanotube: this is not new, it's been in effect for at least a year now

15:39:22 rithm: bam

15:39:23 nanotube: probably two

15:39:35 mike_c: ;;gettrust nanotube mike_c

15:39:36 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask mike_c!~mike_c@unaffiliated/mike-c/x-9105598. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user mike_c: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 6 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=mike_c | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=mike_c | Rated since: Sun Nov 24 21:18:22 2013

15:39:41 rithm: i need to get in on that op channel with the special topic

15:39:51 rithm: where this stuff is written down

15:39:57 mike_c: in the logs

15:40:52 nanotube: rithm: code is foss :D

15:41:25 rithm: heh /me runs off to github

15:42:25 nanotube: ;;whatis #bitcoin-otc code

15:42:25 gribble: Source code to gribble's bitcoin-related plugins: https://github.com/nanotube/supybot-bitcoin-marketmonitor

15:44:45 chetty: Dolar Paralelo: $12,90// looks like market here is leaning towards argentina default

15:47:48 ThickAsThieves: anyone here ever dealt with Moodle?

15:49:03 ThickAsThieves: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2c1nrp/psa_dont_change_the_new_blockchain_ios_wallet/

15:49:03 assbot: PSA: Don't change the new Blockchain iOS wallet denomination to "Bits". When you click Bitpay/Coinbase payment links it will send the wrong amount of BTC to the payment address. : Bitcoin

15:49:25 ThickAsThieves: toldya bits was stupid!

15:51:46 ben_vulpes: benkay: fuck all of my different clipboards <<< aaaahahahaahah. penisfooted wolf, srsly ? << you're not familiar with the dickwolves incident?

15:51:54 ben_vulpes: lulzfarm and outrage brigade

16:00:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.69615380 BTC to 12`639 shares, 13420 satoshi per share

16:01:22 thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: is copying mircea_popescu

16:01:25 thestringpuller: SMH

16:01:40 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust nanotube thestringpuller

16:01:40 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask thestringpuller!~leflor@99-39-97-12.lightspeed.tukrga.sbcglobal.net. Trust relationship from user nanotube to user thestringpuller: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 5 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=nanotube&dest=thestringpuller | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=thestringpuller | Rated since: Mon Oct 15 18:46:37 2012

16:02:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 16.28383008 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1416 satoshi per share

16:03:38 mike_c: underscores are the new rage

16:05:16 thestringpuller: i thought WoL was the new rage?

16:05:25 mike_c: war_of_life

16:10:15 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 43 @ 0.022 = 0.946 BTC {3}

16:14:19 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 50 @ 0.022 = 1.1 BTC

16:17:05 chetty: http://money.cnn.com/2014/07/29/investing/investing-google-search-terms/index.html

16:17:06 assbot: Stocks get no search love on Google - Jul. 29, 2014

16:18:23 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 58 @ 0.022 = 1.276 BTC {3}

16:26:13 pankkake: re iOS blockchain wallet, it's just a feature, it's the Apple price

16:27:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 370 @ 0.00272864 = 1.0096 BTC [-] {9}

16:35:41 kakobrekla: >In fact, there are more searches now for crowdfunding platform Kickstarter than "buy a stock," according to the Google Trends data researched by ConvergEx.

16:37:46 kakobrekla: turn the chumpatron to 11.

16:46:41 chetty: ICE press release refers to "illegal aliens" 11 times: http://www.ice.gov/news/releases/1407/140716houston.htm ? Call the language police!

16:46:42 assbot: 4 Houston residents charged with employing illegal aliens

16:50:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00270026 = 0.5401 BTC [-] {3}

16:51:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27050 @ 0.00080301 = 21.7214 BTC [-]

17:00:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] [PAID] 4.55446000 BTC to 455`446 shares, 1000 satoshi per share

17:02:15 mike_c: !t h rock

17:02:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK:ROCK] 1D: 0.00075002 / 0.0008005 / 0.00085104 (30834 shares, 24.68248696 BTC), 7D: 0.00069600 / 0.00080344 / 0.00085104 (33170 shares, 26.65020681 BTC), 30D: 0.00049994 / 0.00073211 / 0.00099999 (49376 shares, 36.14869395 BTC)

17:03:03 mike_c: ;;calc 1000 * 12 / (100000000 * 0.00075)

17:03:03 gribble: 0.16

17:09:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 556 @ 0.00267264 = 1.486 BTC [-] {8}

17:11:14 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 101 @ 0.01516446 = 1.5316 BTC [+] {3}

17:24:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 48 @ 0.01519773 = 0.7295 BTC [+] {3}

17:25:44 mircea_popescu: ;;ticker

17:25:45 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 580.02, Best ask: 582.13, Bid-ask spread: 2.11000, Last trade: 580.01, 24 hour volume: 6002.33350681, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 596.0, 24 hour vwap: 585.523552373

17:25:52 kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/2v/MM/29TRZj2T/probing.png

17:27:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 800 @ 0.00264961 = 2.1197 BTC [-] {3}

17:27:34 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla yup i got one too.

17:27:41 mircea_popescu: basically coindesk is about to go out of business i take it.

17:30:04 BigBitz: That looks phishy.

17:30:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1324 @ 0.00264 = 3.4954 BTC [-] {2}

17:30:55 kakobrekla: o yea indeed it is.

17:31:23 kakobrekla: i will send aplologies to the phisher.

17:31:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 223 @ 0.00283007 = 0.6311 BTC [+] {5}

17:31:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 40 @ 0.0153 = 0.612 BTC [+]

17:34:11 mircea_popescu: it ain't no phishing, it routes straight to their servers.

17:34:56 kakobrekla: reply-to: coindesk.com@gmail.com

17:35:02 kakobrekla: really ?

17:35:45 kakobrekla: a follow up: >So I take that back and just give you a plain fuck you.

17:36:07 BigBitz: the broken english is bad.

17:36:14 BigBitz: @adverts to sell"

17:36:16 BigBitz: or something it said.

17:36:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27300 @ 0.00080081 = 21.8621 BTC [-]

17:37:27 BigBitz: and I doubt coindesk use @gmail.com lol

17:38:09 mike_c: you actually got them to call you a faggot?

17:38:15 mike_c: !s shrani

17:38:16 assbot: 3 results for 'shrani' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=shrani

17:38:31 kakobrekla: mike_c yes

17:39:08 kakobrekla: i was still in bed when lampelina came in yelling "lmao coindesk called you a fagot!"

17:39:23 mike_c: lol. well good trolling.

17:40:10 kakobrekla: mike_c http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-07-2014#770238

17:40:10 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

17:40:21 kakobrekla: sorry no pic :(

17:41:12 mike_c: i'm surprised they had the balls for that.

17:41:34 ThickAsThieves: 1and1 sux

17:41:53 kakobrekla: it is indeed possible i was talking to phisher now that BigBitz pointed it out

17:41:57 ThickAsThieves: ;;rate 1and1.com -3 bullshit obfuscation

17:41:57 gribble: Error: User doesn't exist in the Rating or GPG databases. User must be GPG-registered to receive ratings.

17:41:59 kakobrekla: even then.

17:42:12 kakobrekla: so in that case, i guess not that amazing.

17:42:12 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

17:45:04 ThickAsThieves: http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/29/5945547/signal-brings-painless-encrypted-calling-whisper-systems-moxie-marlinspike

17:45:04 assbot: Signal brings painless encrypted calling to iOS | The Verge

17:45:20 ThickAsThieves: painless crypto at last

17:45:52 ThickAsThieves: first sentence: "Encryption is hard. "

17:46:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25350 @ 0.00080301 = 20.3563 BTC [+]

17:47:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 210 @ 0.00285898 = 0.6004 BTC [+] {2}

17:47:57 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-pseudo-bitcoinsphere-feels-just-as-squishy-poo-as-the-romanian-pseudo-blogosphere-felt-five-years-or-so-ago/

17:47:58 assbot: The pseudo-Bitcoinsphere feels just as squishy-poo as the Romanian pseudo-blogosphere felt five years or so ago. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

17:48:32 kakobrekla: mp its phishing :(

17:48:37 mircea_popescu: orly.

17:48:47 kakobrekla: explain @gmail ?

17:48:57 kakobrekla: reply-to: coindesk.com@gmail.com

17:49:00 mircea_popescu: Received: from [] (port=40176 helo=coindesk.com)

17:49:01 mircea_popescu: by zed.gendns.com with esmtps (UNKNOWN:DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256)

17:49:01 mircea_popescu: (Exim 4.82)

17:49:01 mircea_popescu: (envelope-from )

17:49:01 mircea_popescu: id 1XCARL-0005dN-5i

17:49:01 mircea_popescu: for office@polimedia.us; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 12:39:58 -0400

17:49:03 mircea_popescu: Received: from coindesk by mail.coindesk.com with local (Exim 4.82)

17:49:07 mircea_popescu: (envelope-from )

17:49:09 mircea_popescu: id 1XCARJ-0004yt-EJ

17:49:11 mircea_popescu: for office@polimedia.us; Tue, 29 Jul 2014 20:39:49 +0400

17:49:13 mircea_popescu: how about that then ?

17:50:07 kakobrekla: maybe they got hacked?

17:50:12 mircea_popescu: and I doubt coindesk use @gmail.com lol << obviously they use gmail.com.

17:50:12 BigBitz: Looks phishy also mircea_popescu

17:50:21 mircea_popescu: idiots consider having "theirname"@twitter, gmail etc a business move.

17:50:34 mircea_popescu: it does not. it reads exactly at the level where coindesk articles read.

17:50:39 BigBitz: That is nothing to do with CoinDesk or CloudFlare.

17:50:46 mircea_popescu: right.

17:50:53 mircea_popescu: it wouldn't, think a moment.

17:51:18 mike_c: http://www.coindesk.com/phishing-alert/

17:51:19 assbot: Alert: Phishing Attempts Targeting CoinDesk

17:51:29 mike_c: Top one is exact copy kako got. i think it's phishers.

17:51:48 BigBitz: mircea_popescu ...

17:51:55 mircea_popescu: mike_c what would phishing do ?

17:52:08 mike_c: well, "phishing". they will ask for btc.

17:52:13 mircea_popescu: mike_c i have a lot of experience with wanna-be spammer kids. this is simply "plausible denial", as they understand it.

17:52:33 mircea_popescu: "let's spam and if anyone claims say we didn't do it, but if anyone buys all the better". this passes for business strategy, there.

17:52:46 BigBitz: Heh, wow.

17:52:52 BigBitz: that is... insane.

17:52:57 mircea_popescu: not like coindesk actually asking for money to publish is new or anything.

17:53:03 kakobrekla: option c: start phishing and then publish warning about attack on your site. this does not remove most potential victims but does remove guilt.

17:53:39 mike_c: someone should string them along a bit. that should make it obvious.

17:53:47 mircea_popescu: mike_c exactly

17:53:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3302 @ 0.00080081 = 2.6443 BTC [-]

17:54:01 mircea_popescu: mike_c go ahead and get wol reviewed, it'll be lulzy.

17:54:07 mike_c: heh

17:54:08 mircea_popescu: ow shit, no, actulaly, i linked the logs in my response

17:54:15 mircea_popescu: advertise something unrelated.

17:54:52 mircea_popescu: that is... insane. << spamworld isn't known for sanity. if the people involved could think clearly they'd do something else with their time.

17:55:10 BigBitz: Yeah but you're saying CoinDesk are doing it on purpose.

17:55:17 mircea_popescu: exactly.

17:55:27 BigBitz: but that other email is clearly phishing.

17:55:46 mircea_popescu: "clearly" in what sense.

17:58:40 kakobrekla: anyway i think we jumped the gun on this, fortunate no harm done in either case.

17:59:15 mircea_popescu: i wish there was some way to make a bitbet about this.

18:00:32 mircea_popescu: but anyway, there's not a shadow of a doubt in my mind that this is exactly coindesk.

18:01:44 punkman: http://99bitcoins.com/almost-got-scammed-alleged-coindesk/

18:03:05 los_pantalones: The Facebook URL was also pretty convincing – why would someone be stating a Facebook page that wasn’t their own ?

18:03:09 los_pantalones: smert

18:06:48 mike_c: "Should BitPay make dilutive issuances after June 19, 2014, D.BPAY will be diluted proportionally." << these terms usually aren't public. how are you going to orchestrate this?

18:07:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-pseudo-bitcoinsphere-feels-just-as-squishy-poo-as-the-romanian-pseudo-blogosphere-felt-five-years-or-so-ago/

18:07:30 mircea_popescu: mike_c they become public when they ipo cause they have to file.

18:07:53 mike_c: of course, but how do you handle dilutive private issuances?

18:08:04 mircea_popescu: at the time of payment.

18:08:13 mike_c: ah

18:08:24 mircea_popescu: it's there so people can correctly evaluate the risks involved. this is one.

18:08:28 mike_c: misunderstood, i get it.

18:08:45 mircea_popescu: if you buy 1mn worth of their 10mn total, then they issue another 90 and make it senior, then they ipo for 115mn

18:08:50 mircea_popescu: you're getting like... ouch.

18:09:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33375 @ 0.00080301 = 26.8005 BTC [+]

18:09:19 mircea_popescu: course one'd hope teh sec would prosecute that sorta fraud, but hey.

18:09:55 mike_c: pro rata is almost universally baked into early stage investments.

18:10:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00080251 = 9.7104 BTC [-] {3}

18:10:52 mircea_popescu: right.

18:11:06 mircea_popescu: except when it isn't, sort of thing

18:15:14 mircea_popescu: dub: assetteers sounds like part of a porno name << Alanis Assetteers ?

18:15:39 mircea_popescu: punkman: what happens when Diageo buys the old family distillery? does the product change or do they make sure it doesn't? << you're new, right ?

18:15:47 mircea_popescu: they make sure it doesn't change while it obviously does.

18:16:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 462 @ 0.00267822 = 1.2373 BTC [-] {4}

18:16:57 mircea_popescu: pankkake: eheh. outrage-driven is clearly the right qualifier << i like the girl, she's got word propriety. this is a rare skill, as it requires a lot more in depth knowledge than your average internet tard can possibly muster.

18:20:42 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: "Me siento con suerte" sounds like the title of a poem, doesn't have the same ring to it as "I'm feeling lucky" << srsly. most shit in spanish sounds poetic.

18:20:59 mircea_popescu: like say "te pica el co?o ?"

18:22:24 mircea_popescu: !up kotarius

18:22:37 mircea_popescu: hm is 219 the most populos b-a ever been ?

18:23:30 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: why are you such a dick and just tell em you wont pay? << that's like -ev neh ?

18:25:43 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: lol Bollywood: http://imgur.com/a/6EMBE << yeah because three doods in a shirt and a bleeding mouth are such genius fresh and original visual concepts.

18:25:43 assbot: Bollywood - Imgur

18:26:06 kakobrekla: how is it -ev ?

18:26:10 mircea_popescu: totally their occuring in separate geographic locations has ntohing to do with the fact that well, so did myths, pre-internet.

18:26:32 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla because consumer fucktard would really rather wait than do anything else

18:26:37 mircea_popescu: just as long as he has a good excuse.

18:26:40 mircea_popescu: or even a bad one.,

18:26:58 mircea_popescu: you never want to take away consumer fucktard's excuse. he gets pannicky and all the injured vanity yields rage.

18:27:21 ben_vulpes: ;;eauth ben_vulpes

18:27:22 gribble: Request successful for user ben_vulpes, hostmask ben_vulpes!~user@unaffiliated/benkay. Get your encrypted OTP from http://bitcoin-otc.com/otps/2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

18:27:36 ben_vulpes: ;;everify freenode:#bitcoin-otc:5523835736bf628e470dfc837212c83012c47e2c1b1d9b932ed66b3b

18:27:38 gribble: You are now authenticated for user ben_vulpes with key 2AFA1A9FD2D031DA

18:27:49 mircea_popescu: heya vulpy.

18:27:54 kakobrekla: you still think there is a risk of that eh

18:27:54 ben_vulpes: sup boss

18:27:55 mircea_popescu: that's one kickass name tbh.

18:28:02 mircea_popescu: ;;google dex vulpe

18:28:03 gribble: vulpe - Wikționar: ; Vulpe vulpes Stock Photo Images. 12 vulpe vulpes royalty free ...: ; Nuclear Reassembly Excludes Large Macromolecules - Science:

18:28:21 mircea_popescu: (that's fox btw : vulpe vulpes. you're like ben fox)

18:28:31 mircea_popescu: but please OH PLEASE do me a favour, and if you have a girl

18:28:32 mircea_popescu: name her vulpe

18:28:39 ben_vulpes: vulpe vulpes?

18:28:49 mircea_popescu: it's like the best girl name anyway, but like this... omfg, i'll pay.

18:29:17 ben_vulpes: how much? doesn't come with access lol

18:29:20 mircea_popescu: yes, vulpes is the clade name of the proper fox.

18:29:28 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes well i wouldn't buy the access FROM YOU.

18:29:35 mircea_popescu: prolly cheaper from her anyway, in time.

18:29:35 ben_vulpes: natch

18:30:19 mircea_popescu: the horror of the interwebs you know, imagine you're 40, just got divorced, and while going through some old websites find a convo where your parents decided your name 2 years prior to birth in an irc chat.

18:33:42 ben_vulpes: lady v's already pretty set on tallulah for a female name

18:34:45 ben_vulpes: cedar and oslo for boys

18:35:42 mircea_popescu: so make two.

18:35:49 mircea_popescu: MAKE ME A VULPE DAMNIT

18:36:00 ben_vulpes: nothing in life is free

18:36:01 mircea_popescu: this is starting to sound a lot like seven and soda.

18:36:08 mike_c: (hello to my children from the past)

18:36:24 mircea_popescu: ahahhh oh mikey... that's so sweet seriously.

18:39:19 mircea_popescu: !up unseen

18:39:59 unseen: thanks

18:40:06 mircea_popescu: yw. so who are you ?

18:41:00 mircea_popescu: dooglus is it coming back ? what do you figure ?

18:41:30 mike_c: !up dooglus

18:42:09 fluffypony: heyo dooglus

18:43:12 mircea_popescu: trixisowned: they removed this line <<< somehow one's unsurprised.

18:43:44 mircea_popescu: "investing" on unsigned contracts, the benefits.

18:44:27 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenki hey get in touch when you have a moment

18:44:27 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:44:33 ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_dushenki

18:44:34 gribble: I have not seen pete_dushenki.

18:44:38 fluffypony: bitcoinpete

18:44:51 ben_vulpes: ;;later tell pete_dushenski hey get in touch when you have a moment

18:44:51 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:44:56 ben_vulpes: ;;seen pete_dushenski

18:44:57 gribble: pete_dushenski was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 13 hours, 32 minutes, and 24 seconds ago: thanks be to nanotube !

18:45:07 fluffypony: ben_vulpes

18:45:10 ben_vulpes: fluffypony: NO.

18:45:11 fluffypony: his nick is bitcoinpete

18:45:21 ben_vulpes: ;;gettrust pete_dushenski

18:45:21 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user ben_vulpes to user pete_dushenski: Level 1: 2, Level 2: 4 via 3 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=ben_vulpes&dest=pete_dushenski | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=pete_dushenski | Rated since: Fri Mar 28 09:14:47 2014

18:45:24 fluffypony: ah

18:45:52 fluffypony: it's going to take me weeks to get used to this

18:46:06 kakobrekla: whats with all the name switching

18:46:15 mike_c: kako_brekla

18:46:18 fluffypony: kakobrekla: change yours to kako_brekla

18:46:22 mike_c: inb4

18:46:22 fluffypony: lol mike_c, snap

18:46:25 assbot: Last 3 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0S0RTQJ.txt )

18:46:25 ben_vulpes: !b 3

18:46:26 ben_vulpes: FUCK

18:46:42 fluffypony: no thanks, maybe later

18:46:44 unseen: mircea_popescu: been lurking here for some time.

18:46:47 fluffypony: but I appreciate the offer

18:47:05 mike_c: bingo is the bash master. he must have hotkeys.

18:47:39 mircea_popescu: and a hot body.

18:47:52 unseen: General interest in MPEX, also you blog is fun to read

18:47:53 mircea_popescu: fluffypony so we seeing you as ric_spa soon ? :D

18:48:00 mircea_popescu: unseen cool.

18:48:04 fluffypony: not a chance :-P

18:48:08 mircea_popescu: why ?

18:48:19 mircea_popescu: such a hotbed of dissent this cha

18:48:32 fluffypony: I like my nick

18:48:54 mircea_popescu: dude we'll be like, in an airport with some russian doods one day, to watch how obama's plane is being shot down

18:48:59 fluffypony: it has a certain je ne sais quoi

18:49:23 mircea_popescu: and i'll be like... hey this here is ben vulpes, master of the vulpes. and this is pete d from canada

18:49:31 mircea_popescu: and this is... flu...uhm... pooo...yeah.

18:49:37 mircea_popescu: and they'll all laugh and you'll feel really bad.

18:49:40 fluffypony: nobody calls me fluffypony in real life

18:49:44 mircea_popescu: i will.

18:49:47 fluffypony: FP is fine

18:49:50 mircea_popescu: im colorblind!

18:49:51 fluffypony: :-P

18:51:07 mircea_popescu: anyway, i readily grant fluffypony's much better than bitcoinpete.

18:55:28 mircea_popescu: since im doing a cleanning here, anyone want bitcoin-financials.com/net/org ?

18:55:36 mircea_popescu: btcscoop.com ?

18:56:05 mike_c: speaking of dashes in urls. feels wrong that some squatter has bitcoinassets.com

18:56:15 unseen: so it is still 30BTC to join MPEX? used to be the same when BTC value was a lower?

18:56:27 kakobrekla: mike_c iirc someone tried to sell it that to me

18:56:32 mike_c: unseen: yup. coinbr lowered its pricing though

18:56:52 unseen: (noob prepares to get flamed)

18:56:56 mircea_popescu: unseen btc value was never lower.

18:56:56 mike_c: kakobrekla: no interest? just for 301?

18:57:27 fluffypony: unseen: 1 BTC = 1 BTC

18:57:54 fluffypony: if the fee was set in USD but BTC was accepted as payment it would fluctuate (in BTC terms), but if it's set in BTC it stays in BTC

18:58:24 kakobrekla: mike_c

18:58:24 kakobrekla: http://shrani.si/f/2G/Or/FhTltNi/domain.png

18:58:47 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla how many people call you a faggot in the averagde week ?

18:58:54 kakobrekla: lots.

18:58:57 mike_c: haha, nice.

18:59:06 kakobrekla: even lampelina does it.

18:59:10 mircea_popescu: how does that make you feel ?

18:59:15 kakobrekla: straight.

18:59:17 mike_c: hell, i would take it for $200 for trolling :)

18:59:18 mircea_popescu: hahah

18:59:19 unseen: mircea_popescu i still convert BTC to fiat in my head before spending, bad habit I guess. ..

18:59:52 mircea_popescu: unseen well you can do whatever you want, but imagine i wrote to the new york times to ask them to revalue their subscripton costs because the "value" of the dolar in argentine pesos has changed.

19:00:17 mircea_popescu: which it has btw, 12.9 by now, this baby's gonna default.

19:01:42 mircea_popescu: totally unrelated : http://31.media.tumblr.com/51ed62e8e314a2ff1bcd13939c97b495/tumblr_mo98qd6baF1qlne6uo1_400.gif

19:01:59 kakobrekla: whoever doesnt take my 13 bucks offer is an idiot

19:02:17 kakobrekla: its 13 or 0.

19:03:37 mircea_popescu: you could offer 13 + 0.1 btc if they write the domain on their tits...

19:04:01 kakobrekla: lol

19:05:03 []bot: Bet created: "Darkcoin over 0.013 BTC before November" http://bitbet.us/bet/1008/

19:05:25 mircea_popescu: fucking trolls these people. Subject: IMMEDIATE VERIFICATION required ; Body : [blablabla] You have a 15 day window from the time of the original registration to verify the email address.

19:05:32 mircea_popescu: holy shit sherlock, is it 15 days or immediate ?

19:06:49 thick_as_thieves: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6dboY9FtDo

19:06:49 assbot: Erik Voorhees Talks BitLicense Regulations & Bitcoin Privacy | Coin Brief Interview - YouTube

19:08:24 unseen: 13.5k € just to open an account, dang.

19:08:32 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: probly removed cuz they wanna use whatever the fuck amount whenever the fuck << well it looked funny cycling it 5k at a time.

19:09:22 mircea_popescu: unseen you know what they say, best time to open a mpex acct was when it was free. 2nd best is now.

19:09:27 mircea_popescu: not like it's ever going to be cheaper.

19:09:55 thick_as_thieves: this erik interview is lame

19:09:58 thick_as_thieves: sry for linking it

19:10:14 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: i dont understand why the line was ever there though really << because children, essentially.

19:10:21 mircea_popescu: !up unseen

19:10:34 unseen: mircea_popescu true that.

19:10:47 mike_c: the mistake is the "just"

19:11:49 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: my result is we need a new wot <<< what nonsense is this ?!

19:12:09 unseen: just?

19:12:51 mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as "a business account". businesses exist as declarations from people in the wot. sovereignity in business is invested with the principals, the business is just a wrapper.

19:12:59 mircea_popescu: much like irl sovereignity is invested in the king, personally.

19:13:03 mircea_popescu: the state is just a wrapper.

19:13:14 mike_c: unseen: if you think mpex is going to continue to be relevant and an account would be useful to you, then it's not expensive.

19:14:09 mircea_popescu: it's really a bad idea to get involved in bitcoin investment if 30 btc is a major hit to your holdings.

19:14:14 mike_c: unseen: may I ask, any reason you don't use coinbr?

19:14:24 mircea_popescu: maybe buy a safe vehicle build with you in mind, like mpif, through a broker

19:14:44 mircea_popescu: but essentially, the barriers are there to help you not to hinder you. like railings on mountain roads.

19:15:40 mircea_popescu: Blazedout419: how do you combat ratings trolls? <<< why would you ? and ever read http://fraudsters.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ ?

19:15:42 assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

19:15:53 mircea_popescu: (i know you think you know how it works, but srsly, read that thing)

19:16:05 unseen: mike_c counter-party risk. I like the PGP signed order system.

19:16:20 mike_c: ;;gettrust unseen jurov

19:16:20 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask jurov!~jurov@mx.coinbr.com. Trust relationship from user unseen to user jurov: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=unseen&dest=jurov | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=jurov | Rated since: Fri Jan 20 18:16:32 2012

19:16:46 mike_c: fwiw, i've never heard a complaint about coinbr.

19:17:36 chetty: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-29/eu-aims-at-russian-banks-technology-in-widest-sanctions-yet.html

19:17:36 assbot: EU Aims at Russian Banks, Technology in Widest Sanctions - Bloomberg

19:17:36 mircea_popescu: jurov you know what you need ? you need fdic.

19:17:46 mircea_popescu: would you be interested in working out a consumer insurance scheme ?

19:18:16 mike_c: or, maybe he needs an interface like mpex. might be a bigger market for that than one would think.

19:18:16 jurov: yes?

19:19:12 jurov: mike_c whole setup makes api unfeasible. unless i limit it to 1 call/user/ 5 seconds

19:19:25 mircea_popescu: lemme see how this'd work

19:19:42 mike_c: jurov: that might not be prohibitive. can't do hft anyway.

19:19:51 unseen: mike_c any company may run off with your BTC. Even if they looked legit for some time.

19:20:02 mike_c: well of course. mpex could too.

19:20:37 mike_c: mpex just ran off with everyone's btc a few weeks ago. luckily it got lonely and came back.

19:20:58 mircea_popescu: how the heck does one structure a depositor insurance thing in btc ;/

19:21:31 unseen: mike_c I decided to trust MPEX.

19:21:45 mircea_popescu: !up godovo

19:21:49 mike_c: fair enough.

19:22:05 godovo: thanks

19:22:12 mircea_popescu: yw. who are you ?

19:22:31 godovo: random white dude

19:22:58 fluffypony: is your being white important?

19:23:09 mircea_popescu: maybe he feels guilty about it.

19:23:34 unseen: mike_c seems to have a different quality than anything else in the bitcoin sphere. kinda like it.

19:23:35 godovo: fluffypony just as important as the dude part

19:23:45 mike_c: depositor insurance: the insurer publishes a list like this: coinbr insured accounts - sha256(act_id): amount, sha256(act_id): amount

19:24:03 mike_c: that way you can verify your account_id is on the list without it being public

19:24:15 mike_c: and account_id is a pgp public key

19:24:34 mircea_popescu: jurov this could work. you publish the list once a month on your blog, as mike describes, then i verify the totals.

19:24:40 mircea_popescu: no charge.

19:25:13 godovo: a ridiculously comprehensive investigation: http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/press/2014/May/20140530_Jones_Complaint.pdf

19:25:29 mircea_popescu: godovo can we has pdf tl;dr ?

19:25:29 godovo: they also used #bitcoin-otc logs

19:26:04 mike_c: looks like the localbitcoins florida case?

19:26:14 jurov: most of btc is in open bids

19:26:22 godovo: they used gribble auth to prove the nick really was him

19:26:26 mircea_popescu: caligirl huh.

19:26:50 mircea_popescu: godovo right and proper.

19:26:51 mike_c: oh, sry. more SR stuff

19:26:57 mircea_popescu: jurov so ?

19:27:13 mircea_popescu: oxycodone ? someone gives a shit !?

19:27:39 mircea_popescu: lmao orange county. srsly ?

19:27:42 jurov: mircea so you have no problem to compare stuff in past point of time?

19:27:50 mircea_popescu: they should just ship that county overseas.

19:28:17 mthreat: mircea_popescu: here's a buenos aires biz for ya - http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-07-27/former-goldman-options-trader-moonlights-as-argentina-taxi-king.html

19:28:17 assbot: Former Goldman Options Trader Becomes Argentina Taxi King - Bloomberg

19:28:24 mircea_popescu: jurov what's the concern, that a bid gets hit just as you post ?

19:28:27 jurov: and it can change substantially in the course of month, maybe it should be published more often

19:28:34 mircea_popescu: mthreat now that guy i'd like to meet.

19:28:36 mircea_popescu: dja know him ?

19:28:50 mthreat: nope.. just saw it on the news

19:28:58 mthreat: I think it was on HN, oddly enough

19:29:03 mircea_popescu: jurov the point is not to give a n accurate list of accounts. the point is to have checkpoints showing you're not spending it on booze.

19:29:06 mircea_popescu: i think

19:29:09 jurov: not a concern, just thinking loud

19:29:17 mircea_popescu: i dunno how exactly your users perceive your cp risks

19:29:26 mircea_popescu: mebbe ask them. "what'd make you feel better" thing

19:29:59 jurov: unseen, would above report signed by mpex help you?

19:30:02 mircea_popescu: mthreat well, sounds interesting

19:30:02 mike_c: my understanding is the cp risk is that jurov will run off to antartica with their assets.

19:30:30 mthreat: mircea_popescu: the ROI numbers sound good, on the surface anyway

19:30:48 mthreat: mircea_popescu: I'd be an excellent taxi driver

19:31:23 jurov: still, users shouldn't keep large btc balances on coinbr. place bids, get mpex receipt

19:31:26 mircea_popescu: you would, yes.

19:31:35 jurov: and watch the orderbook for nefarious activity

19:31:40 mircea_popescu: jurov yeah it's kinda redundant cause receipts anyway

19:31:50 mircea_popescu: well nm, was an idle thought

19:32:11 mircea_popescu: what is needed is perhaps more in depth explaining of how great the system is, as it is.

19:32:54 jurov: yea

19:33:00 unseen: jurov thinking about it.

19:33:07 mike_c: more in-depth won't get read. slapping a "insured by mpex" seal on the homepage will be seen.

19:33:20 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust dynamite

19:33:21 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user dynamite: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=dynamite | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dynamite | Rated since: never

19:33:38 jurov: can i make the seal with the duble cherry truck?

19:33:45 mike_c: yes, but no smoky dragons

19:33:58 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust dynamite`

19:33:59 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user dynamite`: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 1 via 1 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=dynamite%60 | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=dynamite%60 | Rated since: Wed Jan 2 17:42:41 2013

19:34:02 unseen: Mike

19:34:08 mircea_popescu: jurov srsly.

19:34:18 unseen: mike_c exactly

19:34:47 mike_c: there you go. btcalpha should start consulting.

19:34:48 mircea_popescu: http://pastebin.com/gKMdf7AF << kinda interesting. the guy's apparently net negative trust, and has been, since november.

19:34:48 assbot: [14:27] dude youre scamming me! [14:27] how so? [14:27] < - Pastebin.com

19:36:16 mircea_popescu: well this particular texan cali girl will probably be happier in the pen than on the street anyway.

19:36:24 mircea_popescu: at least they do regular laundry runs there.

19:38:29 mircea_popescu: On October 9, 2013, I made contact with CALIGIRL utilizing the Bitmessage program and the 'trusted' Bitmessage address CALIGIRL provided. << nice use of airquotes there lol

19:41:31 mthreat: i used to pay $10/month for someone to do my laundry in 'da pen'

19:41:59 godovo: they really went above and beyond to catch this guy, impressive

19:43:05 mircea_popescu: ahahah not really above and beyond to catch him, just probing the shit out of it.

19:43:25 godovo: I bet he didn't see it coming, lol

19:43:29 mircea_popescu: the part where they degrade the arrangement to the point they talk to the guy on the phone, and then send direct dollars to his bank acct...

19:43:36 mircea_popescu: and then speak to jennifer, his gf...

19:44:11 mircea_popescu: o bro. so why was this guy connected to bitcoin anyway ? seems like an ordinary two bit crook with a beanie baby on the coffee table

19:44:17 mircea_popescu: doesn't make him a beanie baby anything.

19:44:35 chetty: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-29/bonds-peso-slide-fernandez-slams-holdouts-true-aggression-ageinst-argentina

19:45:16 mircea_popescu: The records turther detailed that the application was installed on an Apple iPhone that was titled 'Matthew Jones iphone. << secure minded fellow, he didn't use the carrier phone #, he got a special app.


19:47:05 mircea_popescu: According to the records, the first and only outgoing call that was ever placed utilizing the account was to my undercover telephone number. This caff was pfaced on March 17, 2014 at 4:31 p.m. and went unanswered. Jones received three incoming calls that were answered. One call was from me and is detailed in this affidavit. The additjonal answered incoming telephone calls appear to have been from telemarketers.

19:47:11 mircea_popescu: omfg this is the funniest thing i ever read.

19:47:17 mircea_popescu: TWO OUT OF THREEE!

19:50:14 mircea_popescu: Blazedout419: for a business bad ratings can hurt more than for a regular user << this is widely held but empirically disproven. consider the muchly discussed case of bitbet.

19:51:18 mircea_popescu: mike_c: nanotube: why show "total points" on rating page? i thought that was supposed to be a meaningless number. << it's not entirely meaningless. it reflects the probability of a user being in your network.

19:52:53 chetty: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/07/29/this-ice-cream-does-something-amazing-each-time-you-lick-it/

19:52:53 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

19:52:53 assbot: This Ice Cream Does Something Amazing Each Time You Lick It | Video | TheBlaze.com

19:53:16 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: i think all users should be able to give ratings; doesn't matter if they are trolls or scammers << it's not really a good idea, because spamming.

19:53:35 mircea_popescu: one could keep a machine on non stop to just bloat nanotube's db, making accts, rating everyone, rewash

19:53:55 mircea_popescu: it is GOOD that existent users can make new users unable to become users. this is the bitcoin implementation of slavery.

19:54:10 mircea_popescu: and slavery is right and proper. if you're not into the wot, that is at your peril, and at great cost to you.

19:54:24 mircea_popescu: bitcoin is not optional, bitcoin is mandatory. failure to get in line is punished, not tolerated.

19:54:55 mircea_popescu: hopefully within not so very long having to pay someone already in the wot to be able to get in the wot will be common practice, and then all will be well.

19:56:04 mircea_popescu: ;;rated danielpbarron

19:56:05 gribble: You have not yet rated user danielpbarron

19:56:27 mircea_popescu: ;;rate danielpbarron 1 Works at spreading teh words.

19:56:29 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user danielpbarron has been recorded.

19:58:13 mircea_popescu: ;;later tell genericpersona are you looking to get negrated or what exactly is it ?

19:58:13 gribble: The operation succeeded.

19:58:51 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/M3nEjl6.gif

20:00:06 mike_c: " it reflects the probability of a user being in your network." << who needs probabilities? gettrust works.

20:00:28 artifexd: fluffypony: Sometimes I wonder if you are actually a small script that looks like "echo reddit.com"

20:00:35 fluffypony: hah hah

20:01:08 fluffypony: danielpbarron: I don't disagree with genericpersona, those ratings are far from the biggest threat to the WoT

20:01:42 mircea_popescu: mike_c srsly, think about it. if his score implies a 40% probability people you know know him and yet nobody does.. isn;'t that informative ?

20:01:56 fluffypony: and even though the WoT itself isn't quantitative, it doesn't mean that ratings can't have quantitatively reflect the value of dealings

20:01:57 mircea_popescu: "how did you manage a total score of 5000 while nobody of the 300 people i know ever dealt with you ?"

20:02:21 mike_c: ah, i see.

20:02:24 mircea_popescu: fluffypony the new orthodoxy being that ratings reflect the quality of your knowledge of the person. not the deal.

20:02:37 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/what-the-wot-is-for-how-it-works-and-how-to-use-it/ << mp InSiStS.

20:02:38 assbot: What the WoT is for, how it works and how to use it. pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

20:03:07 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: my knowledge of a person could be limited to a single trade

20:03:14 mircea_popescu: it could yes. but it doesn't have to be.

20:03:19 fluffypony: I "know" nothing about them beyond that

20:03:27 fluffypony: so now I should not rate them?

20:03:31 mircea_popescu: maybe i know everything i need to know about a girl from seeing her tits online. that's a solid 10.

20:03:38 mircea_popescu: maybe i trade 5k btc a week with someone and i can't go past 1.

20:03:46 fluffypony: but it's still qualitative

20:03:55 mircea_popescu: yes, no argument there.

20:04:08 fluffypony: I'd expect that someone that wants to deal with them will come talk to me and say "I see you did a $100 trade with rg...is he trustworthy?"

20:04:16 mircea_popescu: but of a meta-question. you're basically scoring yourself. "hopw likely am i to be able to answer someones' q's about this guyu"

20:04:19 fluffypony: and I'll be like "he was fine at the time, but he's gone south since then."

20:04:48 mircea_popescu: that's the big point there. your rating quantity is not about them at all. it's about you. you're describing yourself, as a repository of knowledge.

20:04:53 fluffypony: yes

20:04:56 mircea_popescu: right.

20:05:17 mircea_popescu: so it's at least in principle and often practically difficult for a third party to dispute your ratings as appropriate or inappropriate.

20:06:05 fluffypony: so a much bigger threat to the WoT than a rating that reflects the trade is that few of us actually go and talk to the people raters to get a feel for the person we're about to deal with

20:06:17 mircea_popescu: rithm: no one will document that and take it seriously << a) no you can't and b) i seem to recall footage of hruschev with his shoe.

20:06:23 mircea_popescu: so your argument fails on both ends.

20:06:34 artifexd: And the positive or negative of the rating is an indication of whether you have negative or positive information?

20:06:44 mircea_popescu: fluffypony some of us are supposedly very good at reading people.

20:06:49 artifexd: Kinda like reading the negative reviews on Amazon first

20:06:55 mircea_popescu: artifexd basically.

20:07:00 fluffypony: jawohl

20:07:08 mircea_popescu: the wot would really work just as good as a balnced ternary sistem really.

20:07:56 mircea_popescu: mike_c: rithm: but it's only harmful if 'total points' is a thing. joe schmoe isn't going to change thhe gettrust between you and others. <<< if the wot db ends up larger than ten blockchains it may become a problem to host.

20:08:13 rithm: right but i still won't rate someone who i've not a) traded with or b) stalked because i have no knowledge of that person

20:09:02 mircea_popescu: right.

20:09:05 rithm: rating someone because they look cool or seems smart is fruitless

20:09:10 rithm: and dangerous

20:09:21 mircea_popescu: well, how the fuck would i know ? maybe that's hoiw your magic works.

20:09:32 mircea_popescu: i won't presume to interfere in experts manner and expertise.

20:09:48 rithm: why can't i have a 5 for luke-jr

20:09:53 rithm: let's discuss it

20:09:57 mircea_popescu: in general tho, the wot benefits from fostering variety of approach. centralising a "set of rating practices" is actualy a valid attack

20:10:00 rithm: he's apeshit crazy, true

20:10:07 rithm: but i trust him with bitcoins

20:10:36 mircea_popescu: you can. which is why i didn't bitch at you when i finally beheaded him.

20:10:55 mircea_popescu: people wanting to figure him out can ask mp and find out he's a total tool, and ask you and find he's trustworthy with btc

20:10:57 rithm: apeshit crazy on one hand. moral compass and won't steal on the other

20:11:09 mircea_popescu: from this profile it becomes clear why he's dangerous : superficially trustworthy tool = mole.

20:14:27 rithm: i get to see a lot of ratings for stupid things like abortion

20:14:41 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust kakobrekla usagi

20:14:41 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user kakobrekla to user usagi: Level 1: 1, Level 2: -3 via 10 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=kakobrekla&dest=usagi | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=usagi | Rated since: Mon Jun 18 12:33:55 2012

20:14:44 rithm: i know for a fact i saw someone rate someone because of their abortion views

20:15:05 rithm: within the last 90 days

20:15:09 mircea_popescu: i thought it was more. anyway, for a long time kako had usagi + even if the consensus in the chan is -.

20:15:18 mircea_popescu: this sort of thing is both common and natural.

20:16:14 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/878424047f7983acff4a791d40c20f3d/tumblr_mo6xbyW7f61qlne6uo1_500.jpg << to go with earlier comment about bitcoin being mandatory.

20:16:16 rithm: when i see kids negrate flamewar each other for political views, i tend to stick to the 1:1 trade mentality

20:17:06 mircea_popescu: political views are just as valid as economical views. the distinction is not nearly as clear cut as you'd like it to imagine.

20:18:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10787 @ 0.00080517 = 8.6854 BTC [+]

20:18:37 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron: well nanotube should make it so you can always give ratings, or maybe base it on an L2 thing like assbot does <<< it already is. in order to be able to rate you need to be linked to google.

20:18:47 mircea_popescu: it's not enough to have high ratings from disconnected subgraphs.

20:20:48 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves: now you can't escape the system << this is exactly true.

20:20:56 mircea_popescu: why do you think it's called la serenissima ?

20:22:44 mircea_popescu: jurov: the solution is to not have one global wot for everything << i don't see it.

20:23:07 mircea_popescu: however you implement it, the situation in fact is that you have one global wot for everything.

20:23:28 mircea_popescu: just like there's one global currency for everything, that's the nature of currencies whether they measure trust or capital or whatever form of that same underlying.

20:23:51 mircea_popescu: rithm: right then we just devolve into some sort of ruling wot class << this is not properly called "devolve". this is improvement.

20:24:07 rithm: lol

20:24:20 rithm: i added that "d" on the front

20:24:33 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 17(Y):83(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 38.00588622 BTC. Current weight: 30,230.

20:24:33 rithm: after the fact

20:25:41 ben_vulpes: unseen you know what they say, best time to open a mpex acct was when it was free. 2nd best is now. << also, don't blow your btc stack on a seat.

20:25:51 mircea_popescu: yeah.

20:26:15 ben_vulpes: unseen: see above

20:26:16 mircea_popescu: the cost with a car should be 5% the car, 95% the gas. not 95% the car then sit around it listening to music.

20:27:29 ben_vulpes: insurance! i was just thinking about putting 1 btc on no for "MPEx defaults by sept 2015"

20:27:36 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes what dickwolves incident ?

20:27:49 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ill put one too.

20:27:49 ben_vulpes: ;;google dickwolves

20:27:50 gribble: Dickwolves - Geek Feminism Wiki: ; Debacle Timeline: ; What Are Dickwolves, And What Do They Have To Do With Rape ...:

20:28:21 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: ben_vulpes: is copying mircea_popescu << no he's copying pete.

20:28:45 ben_vulpes: hey assholes i know a good idea when i see one

20:29:07 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller doesn't :D

20:35:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6513 @ 0.00080517 = 5.2441 BTC [+]

20:44:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 200 @ 0.00268199 = 0.5364 BTC [+]

20:45:12 jurov: jurov: the solution is to not have one global wot for everything << i don't see it. << there may be one global, but there will always be plenty of local ones, often with contradicting information

20:45:12 ben_vulpes: !up unseen

20:49:25 unseen: mircea_popescu:the cost with a car should be 5% the car, 95% the gas. not 95% the car then sit around it listening to music. << so basically stack of 600BTC recommended for a seat at the table

20:49:52 unseen: not quite there yet.

20:52:32 unseen: will try the coinbr thing, though

20:53:11 danielpbarron: unseen, idk if someone already gave you one, but here's a referal url https://coinbr.com/ref?c=k8M6x13ebV :D

20:53:12 assbot: About CoinBr

20:53:34 midnightmagic: the statement of a trust factor is the person making the judgement. if the WoT is dual, then the person would conceivably be forced to make more than one update, so the win would be externalizing the cost in terms of time onto the end-users. a second WoT would be useful in the event that the trust statements were of non-overlapping domains, such as trading confidence vs. (say) physics capability. "I trust this guy to correctly

20:53:40 midnightmagic: work out awesome physics problems." "I don't trust this guy to trade bitcoins with, he keeps stealing meat off my BBQ when I'm not looking." Or better yet, more narrowly, "I trust this guy, but I don't trust his ability to evaluate other peoples' trust."

20:54:32 HeySteve: believe I've found the answer to America's border security issues: http://www.global-unlimited.com/Pages/Wildlife/SALeeuw.html

20:54:32 assbot: Lions get killed by aids

20:55:06 unseen: danielpbarron will use it ;-)

21:03:09 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: Lol

21:12:22 BingoBoingo: !mpif

21:12:23 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021715 B (Total: 474.86 B). Delta: -0.43 B. Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021999 BTC [+]

21:12:55 BingoBoingo: %t

21:12:57 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 210 Ask: 248 Last Price: 210 24h-Vol: 16k High: 211 Low: 210 VWAP: 210

21:13:04 BingoBoingo: %ob

21:13:06 atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 22k@248 | 32k@210 5k@204 50k@203

21:14:15 mike_c: %p

21:14:18 atcbot: [CoinMiner Hashrate]: 0.03 TH/s [PityThePool Hashrate]: 1727.91 GH/s

21:15:31 BingoBoingo: %d

21:15:33 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 540020.36 in 686 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -21.42

21:17:28 BingoBoingo: !up GodHatesFigs

21:20:22 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g91xkISmp2g&list=UUUllb83Lugbka-rvF6Nutxg

21:20:22 assbot: . - YouTube

21:26:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16964 @ 0.00079659 = 13.5134 BTC [-]

21:28:07 ben_vulpes: http://prestonbyrne.com/2014/07/29/casey-talks-eris/

21:28:08 assbot: Casey Kuhlman on Eris | Preston Byrne

21:33:17 ben_vulpes: argh fuck the t1.micro

21:39:18 jurov: ben_vulpes they introduced t2.micro, should be better

21:39:57 jurov: but i suspect you just can't upgrade by restarting

21:40:11 mike_c: hey look, panacea made some pips today.

21:41:04 mike_c: generally you can change instance types by shutting down and switching.

21:41:54 jurov: found it: T2 instances require HVM AMIs. if you have non-HVM, must rebuild it.

21:43:11 ben_vulpes: luckily, my deploys are entirely scripted.

21:43:19 ben_vulpes: luckily

21:43:30 ben_vulpes: s/deploys/provisioning

21:43:36 ben_vulpes: garhgrhagrhgra english you whore

21:47:56 BingoBoingo: !up whynotbit

21:47:59 BingoBoingo: hello whynotbit

21:53:11 whynotbit: Hello BingoBoingo

21:53:23 BingoBoingo: whynotbit: What brings you here today?

21:53:52 whynotbit: curiosity I may say !

21:54:32 jurov: http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/28532895 quite a farce

21:54:33 assbot: BBC Newsbeat - Kanye West wins 'Coinye' Bitcoin infringement lawsuit

21:54:47 jurov: hi moiety

21:54:52 jurov: !up moiety

21:55:28 moiety: hihi ty jurov

21:55:43 moiety: my ears were burning form the logs XD

21:55:59 moiety: i saved my flat!!!!!! \o/

21:56:33 moiety: how's everyone here?

21:56:48 jurov: congrats

21:56:55 BingoBoingo: Congratulation

21:56:56 BingoBoingo: s

21:57:40 moiety: thank you! been really scared cus i only just got the thing

21:57:58 moiety: hard work pays off :D

21:59:18 ben_vulpes: fluffypony: ping ping ping ping ping

21:59:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2800001 = 0.56 BTC [-]

22:01:34 jurov: moiety what do you think about doing video tutorial for gpg auth?

22:01:57 jurov: it'd need to be extra for mac and extra for windows

22:01:57 moiety: can i please say "present" instead of "current" if it comes up?!

22:02:27 jurov: nope. say "contemporary"

22:02:34 jurov: ;)

22:02:57 moiety: lol XD as long as it doesn't sound like i'm saying cunt!

22:03:39 jurov: cuntemporary?

22:03:43 BingoBoingo: moiety: Well, it won't sound like that to other scots at least

22:03:47 jurov: test it on TaT

22:04:17 moiety: i'm getting a better mic as well so things should sound better

22:05:21 moiety: ;; later tell mike_c happy to re-record your videos when better mic arrives if you would like

22:05:21 gribble: The operation succeeded.

22:05:25 jurov: good. would be 0.5BTC okay for both? i'll then add "sponsored by CoinBr" stuff

22:06:14 moiety: totally! just give me a script and i can tweak any bits once you hear it

22:06:46 jurov: just film yourself doing it.. or you're using linux, too?

22:07:10 jurov: anyone'd like to help with wondows/mac script then?

22:08:22 jurov: or if you don't have the hardware, someone other will do and you'll only voiceover

22:09:05 HeySteve: ;;rate DreadKnight 1 AncientBeast.com developer

22:09:06 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user DreadKnight has been recorded.

22:11:13 moiety: i use winblows jurov

22:11:41 jurov: okay, so we'll figure mac later

22:11:56 artifexd: I have a mac we can use

22:12:35 jurov: the script would be you installing gpg4win, first time registering with gribble and authentication

22:12:46 BigBitz: i usemac

22:12:56 artifexd: nameserv registration too

22:13:04 artifexd: With SET ENFORCE ON

22:13:07 jurov: yes, would be good

22:15:41 jurov: all clear? and it can wait for better mic.

22:16:05 moiety: all clear :]

22:17:42 jurov: when done, we'll do the same for ios

22:18:26 jurov: !up pogakuofie

22:18:47 dub: thats a lot of work for .5 you miser

22:19:34 pogakuofie: thanks : jurov :

22:19:38 jurov: well, you can throw something in the pot if you think it will be useful

22:19:53 pogakuofie: ok

22:19:59 pogakuofie: when i get it will

22:20:02 pogakuofie: :)

22:20:11 jurov: moiety, dub thinks you're cheap :)

22:21:14 moiety: good to know

22:21:35 moiety: perhaps someone else would be better placed doing this actually

22:22:30 moiety: dub: i said yes when i didn't realise it was all the recording as well

22:23:13 jurov: well, now you realise. you can name the price

22:23:22 dub: make him do the screengrab for you to voice

22:23:45 BigBitz: there is a video for otc auth i think...

22:24:12 BigBitz: is that what you're planning to create?

22:24:34 pogakuofie: the big dip has started

22:24:44 BigBitz: if so I can also help out if necessary. I can show you how to do it on Mac with GPG command line. Really simple little script.

22:25:47 pogakuofie: yea i saw that video

22:25:57 pogakuofie: but having problem get auth

22:25:58 jurov: you mean this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kKEQBaporB0

22:25:58 assbot: Bitcoin-OTC Trolling - Rating Trolling - GPG Authentication Lulz EP 1 - YouTube

22:26:01 moiety: I'd be happy to do the voice over

22:26:24 pogakuofie: you doing another video

22:26:31 pogakuofie: that one wasnt clear

22:26:40 pogakuofie: hope its windows>>

22:32:13 jurov: moiety, would it be so hard to recreate your own setup?

22:34:23 jurov: http://wiki.bitcoin-otc.com/wiki/GPG_authentication i see, there is one but poor quality and the iOS link is dead

22:34:26 assbot: GPG authentication - bitcoin-otc wiki

22:38:38 moiety: I didn't say it would be hard

22:41:21 jurov: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVSVIibZJc also this one, but with commandline gpg (under windows!) and key creation is not shown

22:41:21 assbot: GPG Web of Trust Tutorial for #bitcoin-otc - YouTube

22:43:17 moiety: i don't know when i'm going to get time to do this, is what i'm saying

22:44:06 jurov: okay

22:49:10 moiety: !up napedia

22:49:14 moiety: !up pogakuofie

22:53:41 thick_as_thieves: <+moiety> i'm getting a better mic as well so things should sound better // which?

22:54:42 moiety: unsure as yet thick_as_thieves all i know is i need a pop filter?

22:54:55 moiety: I have some other voice things to do

22:55:04 thick_as_thieves: depends on budget

22:55:13 thick_as_thieves: the default is probly and SM7b

22:55:16 thick_as_thieves: a

22:55:30 thick_as_thieves: but thats $350 or so and you then need a preamp

22:56:28 thick_as_thieves: your voice though, could get away with a SM57 just fine i bet

22:56:38 moiety: christ i didn't know they would be that much

22:56:49 thick_as_thieves: SM57 would be $100

22:56:57 moiety: oh thats fine tho

22:57:01 thick_as_thieves: still need a preamp though

22:57:06 thick_as_thieves: do you have one?

22:57:19 thick_as_thieves: something to give phantom power

22:57:22 moiety: i have no idea what it is, so i doubt it

22:57:41 thick_as_thieves: basically the thing(s) between your mic and pc

22:57:52 thick_as_thieves: one sec

22:58:35 moiety: sorry, theres a lot more to this than i initially thought

22:58:47 moiety: the advice is much appreciated, thank you thick_as_thieves

22:59:11 thick_as_thieves: something like this would be cheapest thing to take seriously:http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/TubeMPpsUSB

22:59:42 kakobrekla: re mic, you can get philips wm61a capsules for a few bucks each

23:00:31 asciilifeform: gentlemen, wtf with the underscores ?

23:00:35 thick_as_thieves: that's not for voice i dont think

23:00:46 thick_as_thieves: for like video cameras?

23:00:49 kakobrekla: its flat over human hearing range

23:00:57 kakobrekla: more or less.

23:00:59 thick_as_thieves: but close proximity?

23:01:11 thick_as_thieves: pop nightmare

23:01:13 thick_as_thieves: i bet

23:01:42 kakobrekla: dunno i used it for spl measuring and stuff

23:01:55 thick_as_thieves: with voice you want it to not have a lot of range

23:02:01 thick_as_thieves: to get out room noise

23:02:49 thick_as_thieves: get out = avoid

23:02:51 kakobrekla: asciilifeform i had the same doubts and for response i got underscores thrown in my head.

23:03:13 artifexd: ;;ident thick_as_thieves

23:03:13 gribble: CAUTION: irc nick differs from otc registered nick. Nick 'thick_as_thieves', with hostmask 'thick_as_thieves!~ThickAsTh@unaffiliated/thickasthieves', is identified as user 'ThickAsThieves', with GPG key id B28732FE807495EC, key fingerprint D649FD3B664A6BCF801D727EB28732FE807495EC, and bitcoin address 1NfXM69erAWPDdNrZ2k2UkuV7HDPc6Ebwk

23:03:41 thick_as_thieves: it's really me, just wearing different socks today

23:03:49 artifexd: Just making sure. :)

23:03:54 mike_c: much better, cooler socks

23:04:00 moiety: thanks for the advice guys :] i think it will be a while before i can get set up withthat properly

23:04:12 thick_as_thieves: no worries

23:04:51 thick_as_thieves: moiety i hear these arent bad http://www.zzounds.com/item--BALSNOWBALL

23:04:56 thick_as_thieves: it's mic and preamp in one

23:05:08 thick_as_thieves: $76

23:05:18 thick_as_thieves: and it's a ball

23:05:21 thick_as_thieves: so there's that

23:05:36 moiety: o i like that... i like it all in together, less for me to break

23:05:46 thick_as_thieves: more to break at once

23:05:48 thick_as_thieves: ;)

23:06:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] 50 @ 0.01528543 = 0.7643 BTC [+] {6}

23:06:42 moiety: awtrue D;; lol

23:08:19 jurov: ;;tslb

23:08:24 gribble: Time since last block: 18 minutes and 17 seconds

23:12:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 19450 @ 0.00079586 = 15.4795 BTC [-]

23:16:13 asciilifeform: http://imgur.com/qk3jntg

23:16:13 assbot: ersatz - Imgur

23:19:24 thick_as_thieves: ersatz http://imgur.com/gallery/km7N0

23:19:24 assbot: My wife didn't want to take maternity pictures, so I hired a photographer and took her place... - Imgur

23:20:08 thick_as_thieves: asciilifeform what will you be plotting?

23:20:21 asciilifeform: thick_as_thieves: solder paste

23:20:26 thick_as_thieves: neat

23:25:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3750 @ 0.00079602 = 2.9851 BTC [+]

23:25:34 justusranvier: Did I miss any objections? http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/29/how-and-why-to-build-an-unbanked-bitcoin-atm

23:25:34 assbot: How and Why to Build an Unbanked Bitcoin ATM | Bitcoinism

23:29:12 moiety: omg at that album thick_as_thieves :'D lolol

23:35:20 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.btcalpha.com/blog/2014/why-is-bitcoin-crashing/

23:42:24 danielpbarron: http://www.justice.gov/usao/flm/press/2014/May/20140530_Jones_Complaint.pdf << DEA report on -otc user named Dynamite`, busted for selling on silk road

23:45:37 asciilifeform: parallel construction; snore.

23:46:41 BingoBoingo: parellel construction seems likely for anything police in the US do these days

23:47:55 asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the parallel construction in the case of your local doughnut eater is largely 'automatic' - i.e., they get 'anonymous tip' and proceed via traditional means

23:48:57 BingoBoingo: Ah, yeah. 'anonymous tip' prolly belongs in scare quotes from now on.

23:58:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.28000005 = 1.12 BTC [-] {3}