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00:08:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20375 @ 0.00079458 = 16.1896 BTC [-] {2}

00:15:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12075 @ 0.00079417 = 9.5896 BTC [-]

00:23:15 HeySteve: ;;tell thick_as_thieves ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot <- was working on exactly this

00:36:21 BingoBoingo: !up Duffer1

00:36:25 BingoBoingo: !up fordlincoln

01:09:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6869 @ 0.000789 = 5.4196 BTC [-]

01:11:23 BingoBoingo: lulzy butthurt http://paleofuture.gizmodo.com/idiocracy-is-a-cruel-movie-and-you-should-be-ashamed-fo-1553344189

01:11:23 assbot: Idiocracy Is a Cruel Movie And You Should Be Ashamed For Liking It

01:12:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 5000 @ 0.00072021 = 3.6011 BTC [-] {7}

01:12:38 DreadKnight: erm Idiocracy is one of my fav movies

01:13:17 DreadKnight: !up TheRelic

01:14:07 DreadKnight: the current ghetto I'm living in is real proof of that movie, making it funny because it's real

01:14:31 DreadKnight: families of 5 living in a single small room and having huge debts

01:16:18 BingoBoingo: Yeah, Idiocracy being cruel doens't necessarily mean it is untrue

01:16:54 mthreat: %tslb

01:16:55 atcbot: 11 minutes and 42 seconds

01:24:00 DreadKnight: thanks for article share, will read it soon

01:31:26 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32225 @ 0.00078805 = 25.3949 BTC [-] {2}

01:35:06 thick_as_thieves: <+HeySteve> ;;tell thick_as_thieves ThickAsThieves: something like turn namecoin in a wot <- was working on exactly this /// how's it going?

01:35:16 thick_as_thieves: mike_c i love the analysis

01:35:35 thick_as_thieves: I hadnt seen enky's latest post yet, but i too am having some concerns about current demand

01:36:08 thick_as_thieves: however, the USMS should have news about the SR auction in a week or two, which could spark something

01:37:01 mircea_popescu: ;;tell genericpersona that's not your call to make. now stop dicking around while you still have a dick to dick around with.

01:37:27 thick_as_thieves: who is genericpersona?

01:37:32 thick_as_thieves: someon ei hav eignored?

01:37:51 thick_as_thieves: must be vancleef or sumth

01:38:06 mircea_popescu: some -otc derp i imagine.

01:38:39 thick_as_thieves: o

01:38:53 mircea_popescu: people from tennessee imagining beijing is a suburb of chattanooga.

01:39:19 HeySteve: thick_as_thieves, we got pretty far. forked NMC and had a blockchain running you could use to add and retrieve public keys and other details like name, email, business, etc.

01:39:38 HeySteve: my dev in thailand has dropped off the radar lately tho

01:40:14 HeySteve: I had the idea but know next to nothing about code so he was doing the heavy lifting there

01:40:40 mircea_popescu: i vaguely recall the discussion from back thewn

01:40:40 thick_as_thieves: programmers, can't work with em, can't work without em

01:40:43 HeySteve: (perhaps it's more accurate to say I re-had the idea, seeing as nanotube was looking at decentralising the WoT ages ago)

01:40:57 DreadKnight: thick_as_thieves, you said it :\

01:41:08 DreadKnight: most coders have a god complex

01:41:29 mircea_popescu: most coders are god, stop hating :D

01:41:32 BingoBoingo: Huh, I can't seem to see a genericpersona derping in the lawgs

01:41:34 HeySteve: yep. I'll send him another message, ask him to come here and talk about it

01:41:36 thick_as_thieves: or dog complex

01:44:16 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in the kitchen, http://38.media.tumblr.com/065d75d3ad7f8fe2bcbddad3084cd7d7/tumblr_mjlzqbsNO01rt1p0go1_500.jpg

01:44:47 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=716569.msg7950314;boardseen#new

01:44:47 assbot: Justice for Paige Striker - raped at 14!

01:45:09 dub: tribal neck tattoos, edgy

01:46:06 mircea_popescu: dub they don't really pay for extras in these shoots.

01:46:14 mircea_popescu: basically just pick up w/e the cats are dragging in the street.

01:46:52 mircea_popescu: Long story short - I hired Shawn and Pixeldust Marketing late in 2013 to redesign our web site https://www.pinnaclecredit.com/ (note: his design was junk and we did not use it) Shawn started a relationship with our 14 year old daughter Paige behind our back. We found out Jan 2014 she had gotten pregnant by Shawn and had an abortion! Shawn is in his 30s!

01:46:56 mircea_popescu: ok that's just good dirt.

01:47:00 mircea_popescu: who is this dood.

01:47:34 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=112569

01:47:34 assbot: Login

01:47:35 mircea_popescu: "We charged him with sexual assault but our daughter would not cooperate and he was not convicted." << this doth not sound much like rape.

01:49:56 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=112569

01:49:56 assbot: View the profile of evershawn

01:51:56 asciilifeform: pixeldust << synthetic dope that drives user mad while giving him extraordinary strength? (or was that another 'dust' ?)

01:53:11 BingoBoingo: Pixie dust, PCP

01:53:16 asciilifeform: ahaha

01:57:52 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28250 @ 0.00078568 = 22.1955 BTC [-]

01:58:11 mircea_popescu: pcp is more of a cop/courthouse legend from the 80s

01:59:29 mircea_popescu: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=710658.msg8079399#msg8079399

01:59:29 assbot: Scammer - Martin Lawrence - St. Albert - Alberta, Canada

01:59:38 mircea_popescu: not a hippy or someone that backs down. well...

01:59:56 asciilifeform: legend, afaik, is based on the 'feature' of it being anaesthetic without any soporific effect - so user could indeed use 'great strength' at the cost of tearing muscles.

02:00:16 *: asciilifeform hasn't tried, can't confirm

02:00:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-tech-updates-power-drawhash-rate/

02:01:32 BingoBoingo: PCP is a dissociative anesthetic similar to ketamine, but with less effect on the ability to move skeletal muscles

02:02:25 *: asciilifeform was once offered ~1k usd by employer to take ketamine, somehow never got around to it

02:03:18 asciilifeform: (usg trials. for some reason, just about all the tear-off tabs on the 'volunteers needed' ad - stayed attached. one can infer that most people want > 1k usd for this.)

02:04:05 asciilifeform: recently saw the very same ad on uni. campus. apparently they're still testing.

02:04:57 mircea_popescu: <BingoBoingo> PCP is a dissociative anesthetic similar to ketamine, but with less effect on the ability to move skeletal muscles << exactly so.

02:05:09 mircea_popescu: you don't hear reports about keto hipsters throwing fire trucks at airplanes.

02:05:11 mircea_popescu: or w/e bs.

02:05:54 BingoBoingo: Because deep in the k-hole you can't fire signals to move around. That deep in PCP that body runs blind

02:05:58 asciilifeform: in the actual police documents, the plausible data - suspect requiring a few more doughnut eaters than usual to subdue

02:07:15 BingoBoingo: Basically in the PCP hole, body can't report pain/sensory data to the brain and brain can't impose coherent order upon the body.

02:09:15 HeySteve: just downloaded DAZ studio and experimenting

02:09:29 HeySteve: couldn't get the pose as extreme as in the "kitchen" pic but it's fairly close: http://i.imgur.com/cn01ZnT.jpg

02:10:03 HeySteve: fun program!

02:17:55 BingoBoingo: mike_c: How is forum lyfe?

02:18:53 ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> gentlemen, wtf with the underscores ? // my handle's been outdated by reality for a long time now.

02:18:56 mike_c: quiet. i wasn't sure what to expect, but so far it has been indifference. i didn't post at a great time, late at night. thinking about getting some people to bump it. not sure what to do yet.

02:19:12 *: asciilifeform assumed ben_vulpes is actually named 'ben fox' when first saw

02:20:29 mircea_popescu: mike_c's fate, to linger between indifference and insanity.

02:20:53 mike_c: i looked at the price for advertising and was shocked. 1 slot (which is 1/8 of impressions) for 1 week is going for ~3 btc

02:21:02 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's a point of great wonder, the man not only had the means to find a girl actually named fox after her father, but sense enough to switch names.

02:21:25 penguirker: New blog post: http://bitcoinism.liberty.me/2014/07/29/how-and-why-to-build-an-unbanked-bitcoin-atm/

02:21:51 mircea_popescu: mike_c yes, for as long as it lasts milking the scampit is lucrative.

02:21:56 ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: lit. "son of the fox" - albeit pidgin hebrew

02:22:02 ben_vulpes: (/aramaic)

02:22:02 mike_c: big buyer was cex.io

02:22:10 mike_c: which needs constant chump fuel

02:22:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 274 @ 0.0035819 = 0.9814 BTC [-] {12}

02:22:32 ben_vulpes: <mike_c> i looked at the price for advertising and was shocked. 1 slot (which is 1/8 of impressions) for 1 week is going for ~3 btc << >?!

02:22:37 mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2b8e16a7eb6146a88171856b7b971dbd/tumblr_mniti61WFw1qlne6uo1_500.jpg << 70s fashions.

02:23:08 ben_vulpes: ;;ticker

02:23:09 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.5, Best ask: 583.99, Bid-ask spread: 0.49000, Last trade: 583.5, 24 hour volume: 3794.65763213, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 591.95, 24 hour vwap: 582.780620021

02:23:16 ben_vulpes: ah that's not so bad

02:23:26 mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=700152.msg8078134#msg8078134

02:23:26 assbot: Advertise on this forum - Round 127

02:23:36 mircea_popescu: mike_c yeah, cex.io is spending a lot on advertising. google too.

02:23:37 mike_c: bitmain bought half the slots this week

02:24:05 ben_vulpes: how many impressions?

02:24:10 ben_vulpes: "impressions"

02:24:11 *: ben_vulpes vomits

02:24:37 mircea_popescu: tbh i'd rather advertise on 4chan.

02:24:49 mike_c: 377877 per slot

02:25:03 mircea_popescu: mike_c per week ?!

02:25:03 ben_vulpes: i suppose people don't care if things are quantifiable, only if they put their stuff in front of the right audience

02:25:22 mike_c: ;;calc [ticker --last] * 3 / 378

02:25:23 gribble: 4.61785714286

02:25:36 mike_c: 4.60 cpm. high, but not outrageous i guess

02:25:49 mike_c: https://bitcointalk.org/adrotate.php?adstats

02:25:53 mircea_popescu: you have got to be kidding me, 400k impressions a day is ludicrous. fraudsters does more than the tardstalk ?!

02:26:05 mike_c: that is 1 slot (1/8 of total)

02:26:51 asciilifeform: 'impression' ~= page load ?

02:26:52 mircea_popescu: but for the whole week ?

02:26:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform pretty much.

02:26:57 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu> you have got to be kidding me, 400k impressions a day is ludicrous. fraudsters does more than the tardstalk ?! << tardstalk has prolly already bored all the spooks

02:26:58 mike_c: oh, sry. that was only for logged-in users

02:27:42 mike_c: 1,526,113 per day for the whole site if my fogged-brain is doing this right

02:27:58 ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> ;;tell genericpersona that's not your call to make. now stop dicking around while you still have a dick to dick around with. // a dick with which to around?

02:27:58 mircea_popescu: that's saner.

02:27:59 asciilifeform: ~4/min. is approx. what i see on my site. which is quite obscure.

02:28:16 mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes a dick with which to dick.

02:28:38 mike_c: ;;calc [ticker --last] * 3 / 1526

02:28:40 gribble: 1.14802096986

02:28:47 mike_c: that is a more reasonable cpm

02:28:50 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform your site's not that obscure, for one. 4k is not much on the other.

02:29:21 asciilifeform: it was ~1/min before it started to live in the #b-a log.

02:29:49 mircea_popescu: mike_c about a degree of magnitude too much, but hey.

02:29:56 asciilifeform: (i also see quite a few 'fraudsters' headers)

02:30:41 mike_c: well, you figure 0.1% ctr? so you pay $1 per click

02:31:06 mike_c: probably worth it for bitmain

02:31:26 mircea_popescu: mike_c like for neobee.

02:31:46 mike_c: bitmain isn't scammer afaik. that's antminer, right? they deliver.

02:31:48 mircea_popescu: it's not worth it for any of them, just, they don';t have the option not to do it. if they don't do it they don;t exist. so gotta do it.

02:31:48 BingoBoingo: Well isn't bitmain the people actually delivering asics now?

02:32:33 mircea_popescu: mike_c well one doesn't have to be a scammer for the roi to not be there.

02:32:40 mike_c: mircea_popescu: i believe that is the point for buyers like 'indacoin', whatever the hell that is

02:33:34 mike_c: idk.. you also get the eyeballs. the 'see-throughs'.

02:33:55 mircea_popescu: http://theumlaut.com/2014/07/29/a-gentle-introduction-to-neoreaction-for-libertarians/ << so check it out, teh princess manges to go through an entire mile long post about right wing anarchy throwing out ~1k links, never mentions fraudsters.

02:33:55 assbot: A Gentle Introduction to Neoreaction (for Libertarians) | The mlaut

02:34:10 mircea_popescu: fuck me, i thought myself the alpha and omega of right wing anarchy. i guess i don't get out enough.

02:34:54 mike_c: thick_as_thieves:mike_c i love the analysis << thx :) it was fun.

02:35:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: actually 99%+ of the material, afaik, these folks would find agreeable, is... in russian. (they're, unsurprisingly, quite unaware.)

02:36:14 mircea_popescu: (quite unsurprisingly. it is the curse of the us-ian, this particular stupidity, to have to reinvent everything, make it shoddier and flimsier and strut proudly. but hey, at least some stones in a hat taught him ancient aramaic)

02:36:34 asciilifeform: people who can't read - will reinvent. no surprised here.

02:37:58 mircea_popescu: "in the end, success is 1% reading and 99% getting your name out there!"

02:38:46 mike_c: wait, what percentage is work?

02:39:11 mircea_popescu: what is work ?

02:39:21 asciilifeform: success... name out there << is this quote from 'spam like a pro in 21 days' ?

02:39:37 mike_c: holy link-fest. let me add that along with excessive footnotes to my list of ways to make your post unreadable.

02:39:49 mircea_popescu: quite is from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSjLiQxEZlM if it wasn't obvious.

02:39:50 assbot: You can do Anything! - YouTube

02:40:38 *: asciilifeform is seeing this marvel for the first time

02:41:03 mircea_popescu: you also should get out more ?

02:41:09 asciilifeform: lol

02:42:16 mircea_popescu: mike_c i dun think it was intended to be read, i think it was intended to get me to read all this crud.

02:42:34 mircea_popescu: i fucking can't to, it feels like all the idiot kids that i flunked in philosophy class ran off and made blogs.

02:43:57 DreadKnight: asciilifeform, welcome around

02:44:25 DreadKnight: oh sorry, scratch that

02:44:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37700 @ 0.00078568 = 29.6201 BTC [-]

02:44:46 kakobrekla: unwelcome around!

02:45:44 mircea_popescu: lol

02:45:48 *: asciilifeform saw title 'you can do anything', expected a film where idiots try to fly jets, dive submarines, like in a certain ancient story by sheckley

02:45:53 mircea_popescu: welcome asquare!

02:46:19 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, see, historically idiocy was falsifiable, but since it met this retarded civilisation of safety...

02:46:23 mircea_popescu: it just can't find its onw level anymore.

02:47:03 mike_c: i haven't seen much snl. that video is great

02:47:29 asciilifeform: http://www.baenebooks.com/chapters/9781625791412/9781625791412___2.htm

02:47:30 assbot: - <b>THE PRIZE OF PERIL</b>

02:47:41 mircea_popescu: mike_c the rest of snl is not there yet. sort-of how the aliens with a telephone are half sesame street.

02:48:13 asciilifeform: oops wrong link

02:48:35 asciilifeform: actually nope. right one.

02:56:06 BingoBoingo: !up the20year

02:56:29 mircea_popescu: jurov: there may be one global, but there will always be plenty of local ones, often with contradicting information << now this i see.

02:56:51 BingoBoingo: !up the20year1

02:56:56 the20year1: There?

02:57:08 the20year1: Alright, i can't ever remember which one i'm logged into, i've got like 4 IRC nicks now

02:57:14 the20year1: sweeet

02:57:28 the20year1: Seeems that hookers n blow comment has finally come up on the forums, i feel like such a celeb

02:59:08 mircea_popescu: jurov: good. would be 0.5BTC okay for both? i'll then add "sponsored by CoinBr" stuff << cool beanz

03:03:48 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: parallel construction; snore. << indeed. that idiot had no business no way and no means doing so many columbia flights.

03:04:09 mircea_popescu: he's someone's something, which also neatly explains why they put one of the few dea agents with a functioning brain on the case, and spent so much time and effort on it.

03:04:18 mircea_popescu: now whose what... meh, i dun gas.

03:05:45 mircea_popescu: justusranvier my idea at least is that an atm is the most fucktarded idea one could come up with.

03:06:22 mircea_popescu: specifically : an atm requires a fortress. we have not yet built the fortress. when we do, you will know we have, because i will kidnap a number of "world leaders" wives and daughters to be publicly raped there as to make the fucking point that in fact it IS a fortress.

03:06:41 mircea_popescu: on the other hand, an atm is addressed to and aims to serve the public. bitcoin does not.

03:07:38 mircea_popescu: so for these considerations, it makes about as much sense to talk of bitcoin atms as it makes sense to talk of using wet matches to shoot down Mars.

03:07:39 the20year1: bitcoin doesn't serve the public?

03:07:57 mircea_popescu: the20year1 only incidentally. but principally , bitcoin serves the elite.

03:08:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00078547 = 23.0143 BTC [-] {2}

03:08:18 mircea_popescu: (no, not THAT one, this one, but what the hell's the difference)

03:10:26 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo: Yeah, Idiocracy being cruel doens't necessarily mean it is untrue <<< kinda meh slapsticky nonsense imo, but hey.

03:11:05 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well more nonsense when you aren't in the thick of ground zero

03:11:15 mircea_popescu: granted, i know not of what i speak.

03:14:25 the20year1: if bitcoin only serves the elite, then why pass out flyers?

03:14:49 justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATMs I describe serve the Bitcoin traders. Frees them up from having to meet at the same time to perform their trades.

03:38:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.27 = 2.16 BTC [-]

03:41:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15500 @ 0.00078948 = 12.2369 BTC [+] {3}

03:42:19 BingoBoingo: https://twitter.com/BBoingo/status/494327061163438080

03:42:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/actual-internet-etiquette-trackbacks-and-spam/

03:42:28 BingoBoingo: A lesson in Internet Etiquette #blogging http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/actual-internet-etiquette-trackbacks-and-spam/ ? cc: @HashReport

03:42:29 assbot: Actual Internet Etiquette: Trackbacks and Spam | Bingo Blog

03:47:20 BingoBoingo: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/07/why-one-new-jersey-school-district-killed-its-student-laptop-program/

03:47:20 assbot: Why one New Jersey school district killed its student laptop program | Ars Technica

03:50:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2959999 = 0.888 BTC [+]

03:50:45 BingoBoingo: !up TheNewDeal

03:50:54 TheNewDeal: why thank you sir

03:51:31 BingoBoingo: You are welcome

03:51:43 TheNewDeal: hows your evening treating you

03:51:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.2959999 = 0.592 BTC [+]

03:51:49 TheNewDeal: or if it's that time

03:53:04 BingoBoingo: Not too bad.

03:54:32 TheNewDeal: any decent limericks surfaced lately ?

03:54:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12196 @ 0.00078477 = 9.5711 BTC [-]

03:55:35 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: an atm requires a fortress... << to house the mechanism itself? or, its owner?

03:56:28 TheNewDeal: to not be robbed

03:57:04 asciilifeform: is the presumption that the 'saecular authorities' will not prosecute the theft of a btc atm ?

03:57:44 asciilifeform: or, that they will perpetrate said theft ?

03:57:53 asciilifeform: (in which case, what kind of fortress could possibly suffice)

03:58:11 BingoBoingo: Mega lolz: "Adwords Robot USA/UK favorited your Tweet"

04:06:24 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell pete_dushenski Should have at least named the blog MooseCocks Re: http://contravex.com/2014/07/29/the-transition/

04:06:24 assbot: The Transition. | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski

04:06:24 gribble: The operation succeeded.

04:09:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 283 @ 0.00267057 = 0.7558 BTC [-] {3}

04:10:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9617 @ 0.00078428 = 7.5424 BTC [-]

04:21:23 asciilifeform: !up TheNewDeal

04:21:53 TheNewDeal: gracias

04:35:24 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.thedrinkingrecord.com/2014/07/29/the-problem-with-breaking-news/

04:36:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3700 @ 0.00078312 = 2.8975 BTC [-]

04:39:13 TheNewDeal: a blog post on blag posts

04:39:53 BingoBoingo: TheNewDeal: I know. Not Revolutionary though, because MP already does it.

04:40:05 BingoBoingo: Actually that's two blog posts about blog posts tonight.

04:41:05 TheNewDeal: niiice

04:47:36 BingoBoingo: http://crazyrxman.blogspot.com/2014/07/unfortunate-pet-name.html

04:47:36 assbot: Crazy RxMan: Unfortunate Pet Name

04:48:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 232 @ 0.00262143 = 0.6082 BTC [-] {5}

04:49:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 127 @ 0.00419994 = 0.5334 BTC [+] {3}

04:56:16 []bot: Bet created: "Honkie peg to be broken" http://bitbet.us/bet/1009/

04:56:34 dub: wat

04:57:14 BingoBoingo: "

04:57:14 BingoBoingo: The Hong Kong dollar was pegged at 7.80 HKD per USD in 1983. Recently it has been trading at 7.75 HKD per USD, the strongest the HKMA permits it to float in the band around the peg.

04:57:14 BingoBoingo: This bet resolves as Yes if the HKD trades at 7.65 HKD per USD or stronger at any time before February 2015.

04:57:14 BingoBoingo: "

04:58:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.00078312 = 4.1897 BTC [-]

05:05:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.29 = 0.58 BTC [-]

05:07:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21700 @ 0.00078312 = 16.9937 BTC [-]

05:11:49 BingoBoingo: %t

05:11:50 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 203 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 78k High: 211 Low: 203 VWAP: 207

05:16:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 90 @ 0.29961654 = 26.9655 BTC [+] {12}

05:21:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 43 @ 0.31317137 = 13.4664 BTC [+] {11}

05:22:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 30 @ 0.3313133 = 9.9394 BTC [+] {9}

05:24:38 BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One

05:25:27 KRS-One: whats up dude

05:25:32 KRS-One: ;;seen vexual

05:25:33 gribble: vexual was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 day, 14 hours, 52 minutes, and 54 seconds ago: <Vexual> ;;lasers

05:27:37 BingoBoingo: Not too much

05:37:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29453 @ 0.00078258 = 23.0493 BTC [-] {3}

05:38:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.3 = 1.2 BTC [-]

05:43:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] 307 @ 0.00289276 = 0.8881 BTC [+] {4}

05:45:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 38 @ 0.3 = 11.4 BTC [-] {2}

05:52:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23500 @ 0.00078461 = 18.4383 BTC [+] {2}

05:54:13 KRS-One: Where are u from

05:58:29 BingoBoingo: !up KRS-One

05:59:00 KRS-One: sup man where u from

06:00:47 BingoBoingo: Oh, no where in particular

06:01:13 KRS-One: ya same here..

06:01:28 KRS-One: just thought it was funny how bitcoin is worldwide yet the btc channels go dead when the US sleeps.

06:01:42 KRS-One: Are there any other btc IRC networks that you know of

06:04:21 BingoBoingo: That's a very good question

06:05:19 kakobrekla: europeans read, americans write.

06:11:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7909 @ 0.00078208 = 6.1855 BTC [-]

06:16:28 KRS-One: They must have a lot to learn.

06:30:00 mircea_popescu: justusranvier the problem is what do you do to preven tit from being attacked ?

06:30:19 mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: an atm requires a fortress... << to house the mechanism itself? or, its owner? << yes.

06:30:54 mircea_popescu: in any event it's a fortressy thing to do. "here is money for the taking. take it only like so, or else you die"

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06:32:05 BingoBoingo: !b 2

06:34:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34968 @ 0.00078422 = 27.4226 BTC [+]

06:36:49 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> (in which case, what kind of fortress could possibly suffice) << hence the rape comment.

06:36:59 mircea_popescu: the only way to do this is long after we've defeated everyone.

06:44:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31 = 0.62 BTC [+]

06:47:37 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 599 @ 0.00262561 = 1.5727 BTC [-] {5}

06:49:39 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [RENT] 321 @ 0.00419999 = 1.3482 BTC [+] {3}

06:54:41 mircea_popescu: http://38.media.tumblr.com/2101614620ddddd2978e7e6ce64dc1d4/tumblr_mmuc4eEsgJ1qlne6uo1_500.jpg

07:01:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11100 @ 0.00078581 = 8.7225 BTC [+] {3}

07:07:52 BingoBoingo: !up GodHatesFigs

07:07:57 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.300075 = 1.2003 BTC [-] {4}

07:12:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.3 = 0.9 BTC [-]

07:15:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.31499889 = 0.63 BTC [+]

07:51:57 DreadKnight: mircea_popescu, nice :D

07:53:00 mircea_popescu: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8072545

07:53:01 assbot: Ethereum is truly innovative; the first genuine stab at a post-Bitcoin blockchai... | Hacker News

07:53:09 mircea_popescu: check out vessenes being a complete and utter fucktard

07:53:10 mircea_popescu: YET AGAIN

07:56:05 mircea_popescu: http://contravex.com/2014/07/27/inheritance-and-individuation/ i like jay. who's jay ?

07:56:05 assbot: Inheritance and Individuation | Contravex: A blog by Peter Dushenski

07:56:59 DreadKnight: well, don't know about etherum, but I wish bitcoin was non-ASIC-able

07:58:03 DreadKnight: though that means mining of new coins would had stagnated at some point hmm

07:58:03 mircea_popescu: why ?

07:58:11 DreadKnight: so probably super bad idea

07:58:20 punkman: no ASICS = easier to attack

07:58:29 mircea_popescu: that's silly. asics are a major building block in our power. the only reason we're still fighting today is that we had asics in time.

07:58:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 669 @ 0.0026351 = 1.7629 BTC [+]

08:00:17 DreadKnight: thought some people got into btc early and mined with cpu and gpu, now that's not useful; some of those people got rich and can easily afford lots of asics now to continue mining and make some more money, but they invested in some hardware which was not very usable for anything else and quite a risk, so it kinda forced bitcoin to be a non burstable bubble because of the hardware

08:00:28 DreadKnight: s/thought/though

08:00:43 DreadKnight: so ASIC not really bad if you think about it

08:01:21 DreadKnight: btc had plenty of time to be spread around nicely with already existing hardware

08:04:08 DreadKnight: I was considering ASICs as a "the rich get richer" sort of thing, but considering their utility/cost/risks, it's all good

08:04:09 mircea_popescu: you're focusing on the wrong things.

08:04:12 DreadKnight: yeah

08:04:21 mircea_popescu: the point is not for some random fuckwits to "have a chance".

08:04:27 mircea_popescu: the point is for bitcoin to be as powerful as possible.

08:04:39 mircea_popescu: because, again, bitcoin is not here for the people, bitcoin is here for the elite.

08:04:39 DreadKnight: I understood from your previous argument

08:04:55 mircea_popescu: k

08:05:19 mircea_popescu: !up guest8645

08:05:25 DreadKnight: average joe won't know about bitcoin unless the elite implements it in businesses and requires it

08:05:33 mircea_popescu: pretty much.

08:05:38 DreadKnight: not know, better say "use"

08:05:59 DreadKnight: because bitcoin was on the tv news quite a few times around here at least

08:06:43 DreadKnight: "don't invest in btc, it's a bubble!" and after a while it showed a lot of stupid monkeys all like "I don't know how it works, but I sold x and y and invested it all into bitcoins" lol

08:06:44 mircea_popescu: !s from:naphex tv

08:06:44 assbot: 6 results for 'from:naphex tv' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Anaphex+tv

08:08:07 cazalla: it's for the "other 6 billion" you greedy fucks!

08:08:07 DreadKnight: :D

08:08:20 DreadKnight: it will get there thanks to the elite

08:08:47 mircea_popescu: maybe the point was to make bitcoin so that every person has one.

08:09:03 mircea_popescu: putting the excess population by satoshi prophecy at about 6bn

08:09:04 DreadKnight: yes, but screw that, people can trade bucks rather

08:10:17 DreadKnight: it's not like I actually mined dollars in the first place to begin with xD

08:13:22 cazalla: DreadKnight, from what i've read, most that cpu -> gpu -> bfl mined ended up with nothing

08:14:16 DreadKnight: as expected, mtgox ftw xD

08:14:51 cazalla: well, that too but they were warned

08:15:14 cazalla: fortunately the right people have a good amount of coins, can you imagine the likes of andreas with thousands

08:15:22 DreadKnight: it's never ever wise to keep all money in the same spot ffs

08:15:44 mircea_popescu: a warning's as good as a wink to a blind bat

08:15:51 DreadKnight: wise words

08:15:55 mircea_popescu: especially should the bat belabour under the delusion it;'s batman.

08:16:08 DreadKnight: :D

08:16:11 mircea_popescu: but anyway, night comes to ass ull. later.

08:16:18 DreadKnight: rest well

08:17:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33080 @ 0.00078656 = 26.0194 BTC [+]

08:31:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8620 @ 0.00078656 = 6.7801 BTC [+]

08:50:19 BingoBoingo: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/29/a-third-of-consumers-had-debts-in-collections-last-year/

08:50:19 assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post

08:54:42 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6950 @ 0.00078551 = 5.4593 BTC [-]

08:55:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2150 @ 0.00078551 = 1.6888 BTC [-]

09:12:56 BingoBoingo: !up pleego

09:13:01 BingoBoingo: !up pogakuofie

09:13:05 BingoBoingo: !up manamex

09:13:12 BingoBoingo: !up Ginux

09:13:35 pogakuofie: ;;ticker

09:13:36 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 578.69, Best ask: 580.43, Bid-ask spread: 1.74000, Last trade: 578.65, 24 hour volume: 3899.39029056, 24 hour low: 578.0, 24 hour high: 587.78, 24 hour vwap: 581.991343838

09:13:56 BingoBoingo: %t

09:14:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20400 @ 0.00078275 = 15.9681 BTC [-]

09:14:01 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206

09:14:32 pogakuofie: what is that : bingobingo

09:14:34 pogakuofie: ?

09:18:56 BingoBoingo: What? What am I?

09:26:01 BingoBoingo: OR the thing I summoned which is a ticker for Altcoin

09:27:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 1550 @ 0.00078275 = 1.2133 BTC [-]

09:29:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30900 @ 0.00078619 = 24.2933 BTC [+]

09:42:29 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

09:42:32 gribble: Current Blocks: 313148 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1347 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 13 hours, 54 minutes, and 38 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19398377285.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 3.53288

09:51:21 moiety: hey bingobingo :P

09:51:26 BingoBoingo: Hey moiety

09:51:41 BingoBoingo: I see you got caught in the netsplit

09:51:54 moiety: yep D; i usually manage to escape it too

09:52:24 moiety: OH i have my pi back up! i'll look at the thing kako gave me to set up a bouncer

09:52:29 BingoBoingo: Ah, It's been a while since one's caught me.

09:52:33 BingoBoingo: Cool!

09:53:17 moiety: whats been happening with you?

09:54:10 moiety: see the derp-api died fully finally

09:55:13 BingoBoingo: Well, I'm watching atc still, stament comes in a few days.

09:55:39 BingoBoingo: I'd like to get this one out on the first.

09:57:52 BingoBoingo: Ah Doge api?

09:58:03 BingoBoingo: Were you using that moiety?

09:58:25 moiety: nope

09:58:31 moiety: our own dogecoind

09:58:39 moiety: but lots of folk have lost in transactions

09:58:57 moiety: in other places

09:59:19 BingoBoingo: Ah

09:59:24 moiety: am i wrong in thinnking this is another nail in the coffin though?

09:59:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 852 @ 0.0012223 = 1.0414 BTC [-] {9}

10:00:15 BingoBoingo: It prolly is. Dogers like outsourcing work and everything node.js

10:00:50 moiety: they still seem blissfully unaware. still on their way to the moon they think

10:01:25 BingoBoingo: Prolly What's doge price lately?

10:02:03 moiety: lol its bad i had to look that up XD $0.2048/1k

10:02:24 BingoBoingo: How much is that in real things?

10:02:36 moiety: negative lol

10:02:48 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down

10:02:53 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:02:53 BingoBoingo: Ah

10:03:14 moiety: 0.0003500 btc/ 1k doge

10:03:39 moiety: i feel bad that when people join and ask me about doge i have to tell them i dont use it >.>

10:04:24 BingoBoingo: Wow, at least Honesty?

10:04:43 moiety: well yeah im not gonna lie about it

10:04:53 moiety: cus it just leads tomore questions i cant answer

10:05:49 BingoBoingo: Sure. And I mean it enforces the thing where everything on that service really is worthless game tokens.

10:06:24 moiety: they arent worthless if the users use them

10:06:41 moiety: i do miss how it was though

10:07:22 BingoBoingo: Ah In the old days

10:08:19 moiety: yep, but you know me.. resourceful. we'll just see what happens

10:08:25 BingoBoingo: ;;later mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread

10:08:25 gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "mike_c" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.

10:08:43 BingoBoingo: ;;later laser mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread

10:08:44 gribble: Error: The "Later" plugin is loaded, but there is no command named "laser" in it. Try "list Later" to see the commands in the "Later" plugin.

10:08:49 BingoBoingo: ;;later tell mike_c I'm keeping at least a pretense of life in your thread

10:08:50 gribble: The operation succeeded.

10:08:59 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10350 @ 0.00078619 = 8.1371 BTC [+]

10:09:00 BingoBoingo: moiety: I mean you did save the sex weeks flat

10:19:28 moiety: wasn't sure i was going to either. it really shouldnt be so hard to keep a roof over one's head

10:20:22 moiety: ah summer showers - was outside for literally 60 seconds and im soaked

10:20:27 BingoBoingo: Well, consider how many places it takes 15+ people to afford a roof.

10:21:01 moiety: someone suggested a lodger to me but i'm really not keen. i keep too weird hours

10:21:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14456 @ 0.00077885 = 11.2591 BTC [-]

10:22:25 BingoBoingo: Yeah

10:22:28 cazalla: it's not the hours but the space that becomes a problem with sharing

10:23:05 BingoBoingo: cazalla: This is -assets, the hours become a problem too

10:30:30 BingoBoingo: http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html

10:30:30 assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times

10:30:48 BingoBoingo: ^ coinabul

10:31:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17445 @ 0.00077885 = 13.587 BTC [-]

10:32:13 dub: you would think that the media would know to just omit the 'based in wyoming' thing

10:33:24 BingoBoingo: Yeah, I mean that address has how many stories about being a place to rent a mailslot to incorporate from?

10:35:11 moiety: cazalla: thats another thing, this flat is huge but the spare room is actually really quite small. its the only small room. i couldn't cram someone in there and charge them for it. also i have cats that would piss someone off i thnk. they like laying on clean clothes

10:36:08 *: moiety likes to wander freely - not a good thing to do with starngers inthe house

10:37:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1985 @ 0.00260753 = 5.1759 BTC [-] {9}

10:37:56 BingoBoingo: Eh, maybe you could rent a box or something, The tenent tell you when they need out and until them you just lock them in?

10:40:23 cazalla: moiety, i lived with 2 other guys in a 2 bedroom unit when i was much younger, we turned the loungeroom into another bedroom as it had a door, was worth it at the time to save on rent but the cooking, cleaning is a pita when others don't rate it as highly as i do on list of things to do

10:41:05 dub: solution: live with other ocd folk

10:41:22 cazalla: beggars can't be choosers

10:42:09 moiety: lmao BingoBoingo

10:42:25 moiety: i know cazalla, but i'll try everything else i can first

10:42:55 BingoBoingo: Seriously the tenant present a schedule of when they need out well in advance, and otherwise they go in the box.

10:43:20 BingoBoingo: Some aspies would probably got for that

10:43:32 moiety: aspies?

10:43:42 cazalla: there's been a few shipping container ghettos here in australia

10:43:55 moiety: omg i saw the most amazing shipping container house

10:43:55 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

10:44:31 cazalla: it's usually full of international students and illegals though

10:45:08 BingoBoingo: moiety: You know the shut ins

10:45:17 moiety: o ofc lol

10:45:40 moiety: i got told damp would be an issue cazalla

10:46:34 moiety: just look at these! o.O http://network.details.com/post/shipping-container-homes-simple-is-the-new-awesome they don't look so cheap

10:46:35 assbot: You'll Never Guess What These Amazing Homes Are Made Out Of by Urbasm | Details Network

10:46:40 cazalla: fire too, a lot went up in flames here a few months ago

10:46:48 moiety: :o

10:51:52 BingoBoingo: cazalla: Those things look like Tornado food

10:53:49 moiety: jesus christ doge people are over sensitive drama queens

10:54:14 BingoBoingo: OMG What happened now?

10:54:23 BingoBoingo: I'll never believe it!

10:54:24 cazalla: BingoBoingo, the one thing Australia lacks!

10:54:28 moiety: topic : domestic abusers being tagged response: ermagherd ive been abused i cant possibly read this!

10:54:40 moiety: well fuck off then no need to tell everyone

10:54:53 moiety: ive given them the shipping containers to calm them down

10:54:59 BingoBoingo: lol

10:56:24 moiety: wait... is australia not very windy cazalla?

10:56:47 cazalla: moiety, we have cyclones

10:57:05 moiety: oh fuck that, my search for the least windy place to live continues

10:58:02 cazalla: it's really only the top end that gets hit by them

10:58:53 BingoBoingo: moiety: Have they exhausted your manul supply already?

10:59:19 moiety: they arent worthy of the manuls

10:59:27 moiety: very few appreciate them

10:59:27 cazalla: moiety, although i've been around tasman island and the wind was that bad, figured the boat would overturn for sure

10:59:48 moiety: fuck that must have been petrifying cazalla

11:00:13 cazalla: missus started crying, it was her idea too as she wanted to see the seals etc

11:00:36 cazalla: i had to keep it together for her sake but i was terrified, tour operator ended up turning back as he was concerned as well

11:00:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.29420001 = 2.942 BTC [-] {4}

11:00:56 moiety: now thats when you really panic... when a boatman or pilot starts to worry

11:01:09 cazalla: we were meant to go the day prior but it was cancelled due to bad weather, should've been a headsup for what was to come heh

11:01:42 cazalla: beautiful area though, can't wait to move to tassie

11:08:30 moiety: when do you move?

11:09:46 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5bUmx-hk-c

11:09:46 assbot: The Lovin' Spoonful - Summer In The City (1966) - YouTube

11:10:12 punkman: 32 C again, this is not conducive to work

11:11:46 moiety: BingoBoingo: I have new one! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIXw-3H48yU#t=24

11:11:47 assbot: Pallas cat - Otocolobus manul - YouTube

11:11:52 cazalla: moiety, no set date but i want to within 18-24 months, we have a short list of places but i'll need to sell my unit, bubs is teething atm so makes it difficult for me to leave missus here on her own and find a place

11:12:06 moiety: punkman, it was 25C in my room at midnight last night, i'm dying without a/c

11:12:56 moiety: cazalla: understandable. at least you have time to search too and no deadline though

11:13:22 BingoBoingo: moiety: They are so much better moving!!!

11:14:29 moiety: ik! the WTF face is even better in a video too

11:14:41 moiety: so fluffy

11:14:45 punkman: I'd go to manul beach

11:15:33 moiety: don't give me ideas punkman!

11:15:40 BingoBoingo: moiety: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44n0v6JSeQY

11:15:40 assbot: The Unfluffly Truth about Pallas' Cats at Prospect Park Zoo - YouTube

11:16:57 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soBYeKyUIPU

11:16:57 assbot: Pallas Cat Kittens - 12 weeks old pt1 - YouTube

11:17:06 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.00078299 = 28.1876 BTC [+] {2}

11:18:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21577 @ 0.00078653 = 16.971 BTC [+] {2}

11:18:18 moiety: that woman has THE best job ever

11:18:26 BingoBoingo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvEu0wlbwFc

11:18:26 assbot: WHF Pallas Cats - Wei Shand & Tula - YouTube

11:19:27 moiety: thi kittens! :'D

11:19:30 moiety: the*

11:21:00 BingoBoingo: So much fur

11:21:47 moiety: i believe losing an arm in order to touch one would be a fair swap

11:22:01 BingoBoingo: Prolly true

11:23:33 moiety: the way they move around is hilarious

11:24:58 BingoBoingo: Alternately dangerous.

11:25:11 moiety: if i were to write to a zoo do you think they would let me stuff one that died naturally?

11:25:27 BingoBoingo: And frustrating when their face is partially obscured because you know they are making great faces

11:25:38 moiety: ^^

11:25:59 BingoBoingo: moiety: That is an interesting question? How would your other cats handle their favorite being immobile?

11:26:17 moiety: i could see them sitting on it actually

11:26:42 moiety: mine are ridiculously stupid

11:28:46 BingoBoingo: I dunno, maybe they would smell that doing so would be unwise...

11:28:56 moiety: "o a nice raised up rug/bed, thanks!" i reckon would be the response or "this one wont talk to me!"

11:29:17 fluffypony: http://geekologie.com/2014/07/thats-too-long-woman-has-sex-toy-removed.php

11:29:18 assbot: That's Too Long: Woman Has Sex Toy Removed From Vagina After Ten Years | Geekologie

11:29:26 fluffypony: moiety: do you know her?

11:29:27 moiety: WTF

11:29:28 fluffypony: :-P

11:29:41 moiety: LOL fluffypony!!!! I do not XD

11:32:14 moiety: god i wish i worked at ARI at this time

11:32:28 moiety: how could she not know?!

11:32:36 moiety: must be like a bucket

11:34:50 punkman: this little guy showed up yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/C9HUjtl.jpg

11:36:20 BingoBoingo: punkman: I think asciilifeform set a standard that cats in this channel need either serious fluff or confirmed kills...

11:36:58 punkman: he killed a cockroach, does that count?

11:37:06 BingoBoingo: Eh, prolly

11:37:09 punkman: also made the older kitty jealous and she left

11:37:32 moiety: aww he's so cute... did your other one come back yet?

11:37:43 moiety: elvis ate a butterfly yesterday

11:37:58 punkman: cute :P

11:38:14 punkman: this one has stuck around for a couple weeks: http://i.imgur.com/R3JQWvt.jpg

11:38:31 thick_as_thieves: <+BingoBoingo> ;;later tell ThickasTheives http://therealaltcoin.org/ seems down /// up for me, but that's one more sign namecheap hosting sux

11:38:34 assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again

11:38:35 punkman: I guess word is out that I got free food

11:39:05 moiety: omg he is adorable, i just imploded

11:39:52 moiety: i need to figure out how to combine cats and btc, life would be complete

11:41:07 punkman: 1. shave qr code on kitty 2. ??? 3. Profit!!?

11:43:27 BingoBoingo: http://i.crackedcdn.com/phpimages/article/0/1/2/299012_v1.jpg

11:50:36 BingoBoingo: %d

11:50:40 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 527816.92 in 638 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.19

11:50:51 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

11:50:53 gribble: Current Blocks: 313158 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1337 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 1 day, 17 hours, 43 minutes, and 31 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19294145477.9 | Estimated Percent Change: 2.97657

11:51:30 cazalla: i'll never understand how someone can pick a cat over a dog

11:52:02 punkman: I'd rather have a goat

11:53:27 punkman: cazalla: how many rabbits do you have now?

11:53:57 cazalla: punkman, 8 kittens ready to eat in about 2 weeks besides the 2 does 1 buck for breeding

11:56:02 cazalla: could produce more but i like to give the does a month break once she weans them, the commercial ones are typically rebreed same day as they give birth

11:56:15 punkman: I always do rabbit in stew/sauce, wanna try chicken-fried next time

11:57:45 cazalla: i crumb and then panfry the hind/fore legs, toss the rest in a slow cooker, started using the kidneys + liver for pate recently

12:00:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18023 @ 0.00078662 = 14.1773 BTC [+]

12:03:20 BingoBoingo: http://www.epmonthly.com/departments/columns/in-my-opinion/the-life-cycle-of-a-parasitic-specialist/#comment-2805

12:03:22 assbot: The Life Cycle of a Parasitic Specialist

12:05:54 thick_as_thieves: moiety: this is lil rosie when she was littler. she's full grown at about 6lbs now. http://i.imgur.com/asL9ccZ.jpg

12:07:18 thick_as_thieves: the sock suit was to stop her from picking at her bellybutton

12:07:48 moiety: aww she's so cute thick_as_thieves! beautiful colouring

12:08:11 moiety: bellybutton? did she have surgery?

12:08:18 thick_as_thieves: she was born

12:08:20 thick_as_thieves: :)

12:08:38 moiety: ive had them at 5 weeks and bellies were fine

12:08:52 moiety: how old is she there

12:08:55 thick_as_thieves: we foster them young

12:09:07 moiety: thats brilliant!

12:09:15 thick_as_thieves: probly less than 2 weeks

12:09:24 thick_as_thieves: when you get em that young, they turn out awesome

12:09:30 moiety: i got elvis because he was offered home four times and let down

12:09:58 thick_as_thieves: we have a cat we've offered away four times with no success

12:10:20 moiety: if i was closer i would have it!

12:10:24 moiety: elvis >> http://i.imgur.com/wFhBV4R.png

12:10:29 thick_as_thieves: he thinks rosie is a critter or too weak or something so he attacks her and carries her around

12:10:32 thick_as_thieves: he's sweet otherwis

12:10:35 thick_as_thieves: e

12:13:51 BingoBoingo: !up the20year1

12:14:07 BingoBoingo: https://imgur.com/gallery/GBzx8IO

12:14:07 assbot: Hello there! Welcome to the world of Pokmon! My name is Oak! - Imgur

12:15:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 695 @ 0.00256826 = 1.7849 BTC [-] {12}

12:16:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 857 @ 0.00252833 = 2.1668 BTC [-] {10}

12:17:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 9 @ 0.3177777 = 2.86 BTC [+] {4}

12:19:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.324 = 0.972 BTC [+]

12:29:39 jurov: BingoBoingo what am i reading???

12:29:52 BingoBoingo: jurov: Which thing I linked?

12:30:09 jurov: pokemon

12:30:24 BingoBoingo: It was on the side bar next to one of the cat pictures

12:31:50 BigBitz: Pokémon ftw.

12:37:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6632 @ 0.00078662 = 5.2169 BTC [+]

12:39:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1000 @ 0.00248713 = 2.4871 BTC [-] {21}

12:40:28 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 567 @ 0.00245 = 1.3892 BTC [-]

12:41:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 8 @ 0.324 = 2.592 BTC [+]

12:52:35 BingoBoingo: %ob

12:52:36 atcbot: 8k@260 17k@250 27k@248 | 68k@205 23k@203 100k@202

12:52:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 600 @ 0.00235056 = 1.4103 BTC [-]

13:00:43 ThickAsThieves: https://o.info/index.php/How_to_issue_a_cryptosecurity

13:00:44 assbot: How to issue a cryptosecurity - O.info

13:00:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8487 @ 0.0007826 = 6.6419 BTC [-]

13:28:16 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36400 @ 0.00078006 = 28.3942 BTC [-] {2}

13:31:02 mod6: %t

13:31:03 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 205 Ask: 248 Last Price: 203 24h-Vol: 66k High: 210 Low: 203 VWAP: 206

13:31:10 mod6: %d

13:31:11 atcbot: [ATC Diff] Current Diff: 687182.56 Est. Next Diff: 526412.98 in 632 blocks (#42336) Est. % Change: -23.40

13:31:59 ThickAsThieves: http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20140730-705181.html?#

13:32:00 assbot: Tokyo Police Launch Formal Investigation Into Mt Gox Bitcoin Disappearance - WSJ.com

13:32:13 ThickAsThieves: quick those guys

13:35:15 artifexd: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-07-2014#777781 << Had me quite confused until I read this: http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/nod-is-as-good-as-a-wink.html

13:35:16 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

13:35:16 assbot: A nod is as good as a wink

13:35:40 artifexd: Then... 2 lines later I get all confused again. mircea_popescu, can you clarify for me?

13:36:17 cazalla: speak of the devil..

13:36:25 artifexd: Is it a summoning spell?

13:36:47 mircea_popescu: lol what have you apprentice wizards done!

13:38:02 artifexd: Is your arrival at this time pure coincidence?

13:38:55 ThickAsThieves: nothing pure about it

13:40:49 mircea_popescu: lol impure coincidence.

13:42:17 cazalla: i'm reading that heuristics pdf again, perhaps they are incantations?

13:43:02 mircea_popescu: cazalla said "well, that too but they were warned". to this i said, "a nod is as good as a wink". as in, it shouldn't really take much warning that when a cock is going in and out of your butt, you're being fucked.

13:43:26 artifexd: aok ty

13:43:33 mircea_popescu: except, of course, if you're one of the sort of vain fucktards bitcoin's been blessed with. too good to obey, too fucking stupid to boil water.

13:44:22 mircea_popescu: and heuristics are incantations, but they don't summon me.

13:44:29 mircea_popescu: they summon the devil that lives in details.

13:46:21 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/994/btc-to-top-800-before-august/ well it was a good showing

13:46:21 assbot: BitBet - BTC to top $800 before August :: 3.22 B (12%) on Yes, 23.62 B (88%) on No | closed 1 day 13 hours ago

13:47:14 mircea_popescu: assbot: A third of consumers with credit files had debts in collections last year - The Washington Post << clearly the economy's recovering o.O

13:49:15 ThickAsThieves: i will say, it's damn easy to have a random bill from some fucktarded scam or shitty company go to collections without people knowing it

13:49:52 ThickAsThieves: I have like a 900 credit score and had something in collections last year i think

13:50:01 mircea_popescu: "About 77 million Americans have a debt in collections, a new report finds."

13:50:18 mircea_popescu: a that's a good point.

13:50:53 mircea_popescu: the article conveniently doesn't report the average debt per 77 mn.

13:51:41 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: also fails to count the folks who borrowed from unofficial loan sharks

13:51:53 mircea_popescu: those are in collections by default.

13:52:01 asciilifeform: lol

13:52:18 ThickAsThieves: http://newsbtc.com/2014/07/30/bitpay-introduces-new-pricing-model-free-unlimited-forever/

13:52:20 assbot: BitPay Introduces New Pricing Model: Free, Unlimited, Forever | NEWSBTC

13:52:30 mircea_popescu: btw asciilifeform, re our discussion yest. im toying with the idea of putting together a bulk of russian "dark whateveritwas" writings and having them translated.

13:52:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13702 @ 0.00078193 = 10.714 BTC [+] {2}

13:52:45 asciilifeform: another place people 'borrow' is... the tax authorities. (how? many who are classified as 'contractor' aren't paying their bill on time, because gotta eat.)

13:52:48 ThickAsThieves: bitpay goes from service provider to skimmer i guess

13:53:01 mircea_popescu: you know it doesn't actually skim ?

13:53:11 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: having them translated << to english? this promises to be exceedingly difficult

13:53:24 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform myeah ;/

13:53:50 ThickAsThieves: "By comparison, one of BitPay’s biggest competitors here in the United States, Coinbase, offers a no-fee processing service for the first $1 million in bitcoin revenue. After that, a one percent fee is charged upon conversion from bitcoin to local currency."

13:54:02 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves : "The report analyzed 2013 credit data from TransUnion to calculate how many Americans were falling behind on their bills. It looked at how many people had non-mortgage bills, such as credit card bills, child support payments and medical bills, that are so past due that the account has since been closed and placed in collections."

13:54:03 ThickAsThieves: i doubt thats the deal Dell got

13:54:08 mircea_popescu: not random internet pron bill.

13:54:47 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves textbook exercise in how to devalue a market to the point you can no longer survive in it.

13:54:48 ThickAsThieves: while i dont care, i could argue their wording is leading you

13:54:56 asciilifeform: child support payments << phun phact! we still have debtor's prisons for these in usa

13:55:10 mircea_popescu: Researchers relied on a random sample of 7 million people with data reported to the credit bureaus in 2013 to estimate what share of the 220 million Americans with credit files have debts in collection.

13:55:12 mircea_popescu: ffs.

13:55:24 mircea_popescu: nevermind, i'm not interested in what these doods have to say anymore.

13:55:53 ThickAsThieves: why use 7m when you have data for all?

13:55:54 mircea_popescu: But the median debt, $1,350, is still pretty substantial, she adds. who the fuck carwes what the median is. jesus.

13:56:19 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what, you thought they had access to the real figures?

13:56:36 mircea_popescu: well they must be the only people on the planet who don't by now

13:56:45 mircea_popescu: maybe the carders should run these numbers.

13:57:10 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: remember the story about gorby and andropov?

13:57:29 asciilifeform: g: 'show me the real budget.' a: 'you're asking too much. that's off limits to you.'

13:57:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00259754 = 1.039 BTC [-] {2}

13:58:01 mircea_popescu: so i am sitting here with a glass of mineral water. it's a tall, about 12 oz glass. on it, some black bubbles as decor. i've had it for a while.

13:58:08 mircea_popescu: NOW i realise the fucking bubbles were done in ms paint.

13:58:30 mircea_popescu: back when gorby was young ?

13:59:44 ThickAsThieves: TBF has a new website https://bitcoinfoundation.org/

13:59:44 assbot: The Bitcoin Foundation | Standardizing, Promoting, and Protecting the Bitcoin Protocol

13:59:49 ThickAsThieves: pictures!

13:59:55 mircea_popescu: lol standardizing ?

14:00:26 ThickAsThieves: Priorities: Fund developers to tackle specific scalability and security challenges

14:00:26 ThickAsThieves: Increase transactions-per-second throughout

14:00:26 ThickAsThieves: Minimize orphan rates for miners

14:00:26 ThickAsThieves: Implement “UTXO commitments” blockchain pruning and “fully validating but not full-history” nodes

14:00:33 asciilifeform: microshit-style standardization, presumably

14:00:35 ThickAsThieves: lol

14:00:37 asciilifeform: 'embrace & extinguish'

14:00:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 266 @ 0.00242001 = 0.6437 BTC [-]

14:00:58 ThickAsThieves: "Build an international rapid response team to respond to policy threats globally"

14:01:09 mircea_popescu: dude fucking backpackers.

14:01:13 ThickAsThieves: we're gonna need more guns

14:01:18 mircea_popescu: I DO NOT CARRY MY OWN SHIT. THIS IS BITCOIN.

14:01:39 ThickAsThieves: their logo sux

14:01:43 ThickAsThieves: short it

14:02:17 asciilifeform: short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it?

14:02:27 mircea_popescu: "Why We Need a Foundation" << wrong question. who's "we" and more importantly, why we don't need another scam run by vesseness ?

14:02:36 mircea_popescu: who, apparently, is also involved in the eth scam

14:02:45 mircea_popescu: that guy's like vleisides on steroids.

14:03:09 cazalla: i knew before i scrolled there would be a token black kid on that new site

14:03:13 ThickAsThieves: <+asciilifeform> short it << outside my windows, a dead squirrel, buzzing with flies. how do i short it? /// the eternal question

14:03:18 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform got a shovel ?

14:03:34 ThickAsThieves: compost

14:03:43 mircea_popescu: cazalla chumpatron knows their audience.

14:05:43 asciilifeform: that's not 'short' though

14:06:24 asciilifeform: to take it, would be to go 'long' on squirrel.

14:07:34 asciilifeform: thought being, not everything that's in obvious decomposition can be shorted

14:07:59 ThickAsThieves: ;;later tell justusranvier "Strictly speaking, a recycler is not essential. The ATM could remain unbanked by having a separate cash dispenser and cash acceptor, and this would mean that it would require manual servicing to move the cash from one receptacle to the other." Well if the point is to not use a bank, maybe take the time design machine that can spit out cash it receives itself?

14:07:59 gribble: The operation succeeded.

14:08:15 asciilifeform: to correctly short squirrel, somebody must believe that it will get up and walk again, and then you bet against this

14:08:26 justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The issue is cost and capacity of recyclers

14:08:49 mircea_popescu: i still don't get what do you think will prevent me from simply walking in, taking your atm and leaving.

14:08:50 justusranvier: They exist, but they are slow and don't handle many bills.

14:09:11 ThickAsThieves: thats just cuz no one put money into making them better i bet

14:09:12 mircea_popescu: it "not being nice" or something ?

14:09:16 cazalla: wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/

14:09:19 assbot: VIKTYO | Beta

14:09:21 justusranvier: mircea_popescu: Same thing that prevents youfrom doing it to all the other ATMs in the world

14:09:25 mircea_popescu: not so.

14:09:33 mircea_popescu: all the other atms in the world are inside an invisible fortress.

14:09:38 asciilifeform: justusranvier: the saecular authorities will not protect btc atm.

14:09:46 justusranvier: Ok. So what?

14:09:46 mircea_popescu: just because you don't see it yourself doesn't mean either that it's not there nor that you can make your own.

14:10:01 mircea_popescu: what do you mean so what ?

14:10:15 justusranvier: There is no need for secular authorities to protect the btc atm

14:10:17 mircea_popescu: you plan to make this thing out of magic fabric that only reveals itself to true believers and people it'd like to fuck ?

14:10:23 mircea_popescu: so... i can just take it ?

14:10:53 ThickAsThieves: justusranvier you posit a bankless atm, so you have accepted the tasks of competing with better ATMs, no?

14:10:54 cazalla: justusranvier, ATM's get stolen often here, steal a car, tie chain around ATM and off you go

14:10:57 justusranvier: The Bitcoin ATM that's physically closest to me is in a store (Brave New Books) where most of the employees have concealed handgun permits.

14:11:00 ThickAsThieves: this means being as useful as possible

14:11:13 justusranvier: They already have high-value merchandice that they keep an eye on to stop it from being stolen

14:11:36 ThickAsThieves: would BRINKS or such serve a bitcoin ATM?

14:11:42 asciilifeform: justusranvier: if it needs human pistoleros, it might as well be a box with a slave in it counting out cash

14:11:45 mircea_popescu: dise. but so what ? i can have this shop foreclosed on, can i not ?

14:11:49 ThickAsThieves: where to bring the cash tho...

14:12:17 justusranvier: mircea_popescu: I have no idea what kind of threat model you are trying to propose.

14:12:32 chetty: haha they should always be deployed right next to regular atms, simply everything

14:12:44 justusranvier: ThickAsThieves: The point of the proposal is that you in no way require Brinks

14:12:47 mircea_popescu: the kind of threat model when where you intend to break the laws of whatever lord, you'd better have better arms than him.

14:12:48 justusranvier: not at all

14:13:02 ThickAsThieves: thats the point mp is saying you have wrong i think

14:13:06 ThickAsThieves: security

14:13:17 justusranvier: Did I propose breaking any laws?

14:13:28 mircea_popescu: yes. in order to have a bitcoin atm, you must break aml/kyc.

14:13:32 mircea_popescu: this isn't avoidable.

14:13:45 mircea_popescu: if you break that, might as well just walk into the police station and start shooting randomly.

14:13:47 justusranvier: Maybe in the US, but it's not the only country in the world

14:13:57 ThickAsThieves: lies

14:14:10 mircea_popescu: the only reason random shithole allows you to do really obnoxious shit is that random shithole is small and dumb.

14:14:19 mircea_popescu: once you get big it'll change suddenly, and with little explanation.

14:14:35 ThickAsThieves: <+cazalla> wonder if they ripped the design from this site http://www.viktyo.com/ /// ha!

14:14:37 assbot: VIKTYO | Beta

14:14:49 mircea_popescu: in this sense, you;re basically saying that drugs aren;t illegal everywhere, such as chicago shooting district.

14:15:20 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: here's one gedanken-atm. it's inside a concrete block, cannot be repaired, etc. 50kg of thermite if disturbed. then, simply leave it somewhere reasonable. (network connectivity an exercise for alert reader.)

14:15:37 mircea_popescu: aml/kyc is a fundamental component of the current order. you can't annul it just like that.

14:15:57 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will go to jail for unauthorised explosive device.

14:16:06 asciilifeform: naturally. if there's a 'you'

14:16:18 mircea_popescu: if you can make items that can';t be traced back to you, you've satisfied the rape requirement i detailed yest.

14:16:24 ThickAsThieves: dont they put palm readers and other AML things in some ATMs?

14:16:27 asciilifeform: as it is, it's just a terrorist infernal device that happens to dispense cash if treaded with kindness.

14:16:47 asciilifeform: *treated

14:16:48 ThickAsThieves: palm reader, hehe, maybe they should include tea-leaf readers too

14:17:03 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 625 @ 0.00184 = 1.15 BTC [-] {2}

14:17:08 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves that would then not be a btc atm. it would be a satanic usg attack on btc.

14:17:30 mircea_popescu: just because something has btc IN it doesn';t make it btc-that something.

14:17:31 asciilifeform: these - are being built even now.

14:17:40 mircea_popescu: for instance, a bear trap is not bearham

14:17:43 ThickAsThieves: cant we just stop trying to accommodate fiat?

14:18:00 mircea_popescu: not anymore than we can stop accomodating that whore.

14:18:15 ThickAsThieves: let bitpay and friends worry about this kinda shit

14:18:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform anyway, your terrorist infernal devices will be auto-dismantled.

14:18:38 mircea_popescu: not so fucking useful.

14:18:42 asciilifeform: probably.

14:19:19 asciilifeform: unless random people took initiative to shelter them secretly.

14:19:28 ThickAsThieves: mistaken for WMDs

14:19:31 mircea_popescu: samizdatbtc ?

14:19:40 asciilifeform: ('wanna come use my pet terror-atm ?')

14:19:42 mircea_popescu: guess what! this already happens!

14:19:52 mircea_popescu: usg is spending a lot of money time and resources trying to infiltrate it!

14:20:03 chetty: in a related topis: http://www.cnbc.com/id/101877574

14:20:05 assbot: Paying ransoms, Europe bankrolls Qaeda terror

14:20:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 507 @ 0.00242002 = 1.227 BTC [-] {2}

14:20:28 justusranvier: If you don't like physical ATMs, then implement the same trading algorithm with human traders

14:20:33 justusranvier: also works

14:20:39 mircea_popescu: chetty lol@cnbtc. and i guess the us hasn';t recently embarked in a joyride of paying ransoms to hide the reality of its middle eastern defeat ?

14:21:08 mircea_popescu: justusranvier explain the algorithm in question again for the benefit of they with difficulties reading ?

14:21:14 chetty: haha well I kinda just assume usg and eu is doing same stuffs these days

14:21:31 mircea_popescu: http://31.media.tumblr.com/4eb801b597985edc9c21a50230d3dcde/tumblr_mex511etlZ1qlne6uo1_500.png this is such a brilliant idea really.

14:22:10 ThickAsThieves: twist wrist and free?

14:22:35 ThickAsThieves: maybe dislocate thumb requires

14:22:36 ThickAsThieves: d

14:22:49 ThickAsThieves: nice design

14:22:57 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves not everyone';s got thieves wrists.

14:23:15 ThickAsThieves: "The New York Times found that Al Qaeda and its direct affiliates have taken in at least $125 million in revenue from kidnappings since 2008, of which $66 million was paid just last year."

14:23:20 mircea_popescu: but anyway, yeah, it's actually impossible to keep a well trained slavegirl restrained. she'll wiggle out, over time. this being more for the engineering of it etc.

14:23:39 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves see now THEY could make a bitcoin atm.

14:24:08 chetty: haha just wait until AQ wants it ransoms in btc

14:24:13 ThickAsThieves: seems their atm works just fine

14:24:48 ThickAsThieves: put in Europeans, withdraw millions

14:24:55 mircea_popescu: lol

14:26:35 mircea_popescu: http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m9y3xxsbmm1rtfxf4o1_500.jpg << is it wrong that i really like this concept ?

14:27:10 chetty: yes

14:27:36 chetty: (he isnt almost naked, thats the problem)

14:28:44 mircea_popescu: the subtext i read there is, guy buys diamond ring, girl spends a few hours on the end of a leash that day.

14:28:55 mircea_popescu: comes back, little worse for the wear.

14:29:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31241 @ 0.00078221 = 24.437 BTC [+] {2}

14:30:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 400 @ 0.00242004 = 0.968 BTC [+]

14:30:31 mircea_popescu: ;;refresh

14:30:32 gribble: Order refresh successful, 2 orders refreshed.

14:30:51 chetty: you never seem to see the same symbols as the rest of us

14:31:16 ThickAsThieves: he has sexualized glasses

14:31:48 mircea_popescu: no, you all see the world through monoculture glasses!

14:32:04 cazalla: that shit is constantly on 4chan but it's shitty bait

14:32:30 ThickAsThieves: i try so hard, but still i only see with my own eyes

14:32:50 mircea_popescu: "The ruling requires Argentina to pay 100 percent of its debt to the holdouts at the same time Argentina pays the restructured bonds to the ?holdins.? Argentina is not allowed, under Griesa?s ruling, to pay some creditors but not others. The payment date was June 30. Because Argentina missed its payment, it is now under a 30-day grace period. If Argentina does not pay by the end of July it will, again, be formall

14:32:50 mircea_popescu: y in default."

14:33:06 mircea_popescu: http://mises.org/daily/6825/Understanding-Argentinas-Coming-Default

14:33:07 assbot: Understanding Argentinas Coming Default - Nicolás Cachanosky - Mises Daily

14:33:08 chetty: mircea_popescu, is there anything in life that does not relate to sex?

14:33:12 mircea_popescu: this isn't really a fair statement of the problem

14:33:17 mircea_popescu: i guess im writing a blogpost.

14:33:23 mircea_popescu: chetty did you say life ?

14:33:49 chetty: yeah, meant as a generic term, not biology

14:33:55 mircea_popescu: ...

14:34:01 mircea_popescu: and suddenly the glasses are in plain view.

14:34:17 mircea_popescu: what the holy fuckballs of heaven do you mean "generic term not biology" ?

14:34:25 ThickAsThieves: hehe

14:35:24 mircea_popescu: cazalla you don't see the merits in taking another man's wife from time to time ?

14:35:32 ThickAsThieves: is there anything in sex that does not relate to life

14:35:40 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves roughly half.

14:35:57 chetty: well apparently a failed attmept to forestall you going on that life obviously means sex ..

14:36:15 cazalla: mircea_popescu, i did it once and felt horrible, after i had fucked her though

14:36:20 mircea_popescu: what's to forestall ? things are what they are not what we wanna see them as.

14:36:56 chetty: the question comes down to, whats the sex in a stock exchange trade?

14:38:09 cazalla: met her online, she invited me over, i get there, lets me straight in and then tells me to be quiet because her kids are asleep, news to me at that point, she had kicked her husband out few days prior too

14:38:41 mircea_popescu: cazalla a that's no good.

14:38:53 ThickAsThieves: maybe i can translate for chetty, or at least put words in her mouth. you have a hyper-sexualized view of things, using sex as metaphor constantly, being quite horny, keeping sex slaves, sex is majorly part of your psyche, going so far as to imply a hypersexual person is a hypersuccessful person/ why do you think it's so important and how does this relate to the inferiority assumed by

14:38:54 ThickAsThieves: your average desexualized beta mangirl

14:40:25 mircea_popescu: well, the objection'd be that hyper requires an average, and not only is there a good objective average sex, but why would anyone care ? this then reduces the problem to a personal matter, "he talks more of it than i do. this is inconvenient for x y z reasons."

14:40:38 mircea_popescu: not only is there not*

14:41:24 mircea_popescu: remarkably enough, my use of the sex metaphor is actually unrelated to sex. it just happens to be an incredibly good structure for explaining things to people, especially people who haven't spent a lot of time thinking, either generally or on the topic at hand.

14:41:26 cazalla: only part that bothers me is half of mircea_popescu tumblr links look like they came from rusty and eddies

14:41:32 mircea_popescu: ths because they HAVE spent a lot of time thinking about sex.

14:41:52 mircea_popescu: cazalla i'm an equal opportunity asshole!

14:41:54 chetty: ThickAsThieves, that close to what I meant. But nothing really to do personally with Mircea and sex, more how does he manage to see it everything

14:42:26 ThickAsThieves: so the distilled answer is, "Dude I like sex more than you, it ain't mean nuthin!" ?

14:42:38 chetty: mircea_popescu, yes thats exactly what I was trying to get at

14:43:29 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 294 @ 0.00242005 = 0.7115 BTC [+] {4}

14:43:33 rithm: i like sex

14:43:44 mircea_popescu: rithm a, but does sex like you back ?

14:43:51 rithm: sex likes me

14:43:54 rithm: i asked it

14:43:58 ThickAsThieves: sex is a slut

14:44:02 mircea_popescu: i once knew a stripper named sex.

14:44:20 ThickAsThieves: her tastes were quite complex

14:44:28 mircea_popescu: lol this is for real.

14:44:44 rithm: she sat on my pole,

14:45:13 chetty: serial limericks?

14:45:15 ThickAsThieves: my wallet cajoled

14:45:37 rithm: and boy, when i came did she squeal

14:45:47 rithm: or -ex

14:45:51 rithm: mp messed it up

14:45:55 ThickAsThieves: hehe

14:46:28 ThickAsThieves: here's one i made yesterday

14:46:41 ThickAsThieves: Princessnell, she casts a spell, with words longer than I can spell. She found her calling in verbal brawling, but who's winning? No one can tell.

14:47:15 mircea_popescu: this is exactly the definition of a good lay

14:47:31 mircea_popescu: a spirited bout of brawling with no clear victor.

14:47:41 rithm: lol

14:48:26 ThickAsThieves: rhyming spell with spell = pro

14:50:36 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 199 @ 0.00251847 = 0.5012 BTC [+]

14:52:24 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves you're also implying that the source of her intellect is mystical.

14:52:38 mircea_popescu: this because you're a cis scum privilege-mongering woman hater.

14:53:07 mircea_popescu: or perhaps for want of a pair of glasses :D

14:53:13 ThickAsThieves: nope it's just cuz i wanna read and digest her articles but they are so fukn dense with words and links

14:53:34 ThickAsThieves: the limerick was my way of complaining

14:53:42 mircea_popescu: so basically you think her intellect is mystical because you love her so much ?

14:53:48 mircea_popescu: "honey, i don't want you to leave the house anymore"

14:53:50 ThickAsThieves: i dont even know her

14:54:08 mircea_popescu: sorry son, you've stepped into feminism hour here at horror hotel.

14:54:28 ThickAsThieves: is it at least happy hour too?

14:54:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 47850 @ 0.0007873 = 37.6723 BTC [+] {3}

14:54:42 mircea_popescu: i think for pot only.

14:54:47 ThickAsThieves: perfect

14:55:11 mircea_popescu: speaking of which, these people here are fucking nuts. do you know what the #1 universal question is, as you start getting intimate ?

14:55:26 mircea_popescu: not "do you wanna fuck me", not "do you think im fat", not even what fucking bands you like. no. none of that.

14:55:32 mircea_popescu: "do you smoke pot" they want to know.

14:55:37 ThickAsThieves: lol

14:55:49 mircea_popescu: im like... what is this, highschool ?

14:56:01 ThickAsThieves: everyone is doing it mircea

14:56:06 ThickAsThieves: be one of us

14:56:09 mircea_popescu: THIS is what personality and interpersonal bonding is predicated upon ? fucking pot ?

14:56:29 ThickAsThieves: it does enhance orgasm

14:56:44 mircea_popescu: i dun want my orgasm fucking enhanced.

14:56:47 ThickAsThieves: lol

14:57:12 mircea_popescu: everything enhances orgasm, for crying out loud. including not doing it for a while.

14:57:29 mircea_popescu: now why would i want that ? let them be boring and plain old ordinarily unenhanced.

14:57:31 ThickAsThieves: do you also not drink booze with sex?

14:57:47 mircea_popescu: wait, you can actually make your penis drink ?!

14:57:58 mircea_popescu: from a cup or do you have a little trough for it ?

14:58:20 ThickAsThieves: i only smoke pot with my dick

14:58:23 ThickAsThieves: get with the program

14:58:35 mircea_popescu: occasionally one runs into a well work whore that can smoke with her cunt.

14:58:41 mircea_popescu: it's generally a good sign.

14:59:02 ThickAsThieves: that should be your response then

14:59:22 ThickAsThieves: Do you smoke pot? Does your cunt smoke pot?

14:59:38 ThickAsThieves: maybe she can shotgun you from below

14:59:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30131 @ 0.0007897 = 23.7945 BTC [+] {4}

15:00:07 ThickAsThieves: sexualize the pot, dont potualize the sex

15:00:11 mircea_popescu: lol

15:00:26 mircea_popescu: genetically engineered vaginal water pipe.

15:00:28 mircea_popescu: ALWAYS WET

15:02:42 chetty: and here I thought pot mostly made people lazy and hungry ...

15:02:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [DEALCO] 419 @ 0.00199874 = 0.8375 BTC [+] {9}

15:03:02 ThickAsThieves: depends on the pot and the person

15:03:10 ThickAsThieves: but generlaly you are correct

15:05:42 ThickAsThieves: Anyone who used Tor between early February and July 4th of 2014 "should assume they were affected" by the attack, says the Tor team.

15:05:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6645 @ 0.00079094 = 5.2558 BTC [+]

15:07:29 ThickAsThieves: http://pando.com/2014/07/30/payments-giant-first-data-acquires-gyft-in-an-effort-to-bring-digital-gift-cards-to-the-masses/

15:07:30 assbot: EXCLUSIVE: Payments giant First Data acquires Gyft in an effort to bring digital gift cards to the masses | PandoDaily

15:08:17 rithm: whoa gyft got assimilated

15:09:41 mircea_popescu: !up pleego

15:18:07 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin over $1000 before September" http://bitbet.us/bet/866/ Odds: 16(Y):84(N) by coin, 28(Y):72(N) by weight. Total bet: 40.00588622 BTC. Current weight: 29,385.

15:20:36 artifexd: <gribble> Rating change | Old rating 2 | New rating: danielpbarron > -4 > birdman | have known face-to-face for several years; currently an idiot, but there is still hope.. <<< LOL

15:22:07 artifexd: <gribble> New rating | birdman > 3 > danielpbarron | Holds alot of my btc, very knowlageable with cryptography, is childish and doesnt understand the web of trust. negative rated me for getting devoice on #bitcoin-assets. Rationalizes that he had to change the +2 he had for me to a -4 because of his appearence there. Not to mention i was devoiced there

15:22:07 artifexd: because some regular there picked a fight. Very trustworthy when i comes to busines <<< Moar lol

15:23:31 artifexd: Once could use the #bitcoin-otc-ratings channel as source material for a very funny soap opera.

15:26:19 danielpbarron: it wasn't just for that; we had an extended conversation after that incident and I didn't like his attitude about it

15:29:13 artifexd: I get it. I really do. I still find it funny.

15:30:33 ThickAsThieves: "Why not use a more reputable site like nitrogensports or cloudbet?"

15:31:16 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [ROCK] 4999 @ 0.00070119 = 3.5052 BTC [-] {6}

15:32:40 danielpbarron: heh; I know one of the mods for nitrogen; he lives in the town over from me; met him face-to-face for some BTC deals

15:32:59 danielpbarron: even got him on irc, but he refused to join the WoT and i eventually told him to buzz off

15:35:03 ThickAsThieves: danielpbarron everything is about you

15:35:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8850 @ 0.0007934 = 7.0216 BTC [+]

15:36:04 rithm: i spend a majority of my day hanging on danielpbarron's every line of text.

15:36:20 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves the kid has a lot of zeal doesn't he ?

15:36:46 mircea_popescu: danielpbarron dedication is a virtue, but too much of a virtue can be a sin. even your church preaches temperance, does it not ?

15:37:06 mircea_popescu: !s birdman

15:37:07 assbot: 21 results for 'birdman' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=birdman

15:39:46 ThickAsThieves: i ordered two t-shirts with a btc logo in the style of a citi bank logo

15:39:49 danielpbarron: self-control is certainly a requirement for salvation

15:39:55 ThickAsThieves: they came just fine

15:40:05 ThickAsThieves: now the company says they were sorry for misprint and will send more

15:40:11 ThickAsThieves: free shirtz!

15:40:12 mircea_popescu: lol ?

15:40:53 ThickAsThieves: http://i.imgur.com/4kc4RDh.png

15:47:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 31850 @ 0.00079169 = 25.2153 BTC [-] {3}

15:50:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24100 @ 0.0007934 = 19.1209 BTC [+]

15:56:27 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/understanding-argentina%e2%80%99s-coming-default-for-real-this-time/

15:58:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 217 @ 0.00269732 = 0.5853 BTC [+] {7}

16:04:49 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17150 @ 0.00078633 = 13.4856 BTC [-]

16:06:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.71011060 BTC to 12`743 shares, 13420 satoshi per share

16:08:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] [PAID] 18.20431004 BTC to 1`149`988 shares, 1583 satoshi per share

16:10:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 4000 @ 0.00259864 = 10.3946 BTC [-] {4}

16:11:56 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 480 @ 0.00263166 = 1.2632 BTC [+] {4}

16:13:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 231 @ 0.00274498 = 0.6341 BTC [-] {2}

16:18:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6344 @ 0.00078198 = 4.9609 BTC [-]

16:26:35 mthreat: mircea_popescu: me gusta el articulo sobre el default. pero escribiste "Cristina" como "Christina"

16:36:47 chetty: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-07-30/moscow-stock-exchange-breaks-trading-halted

16:36:47 assbot: Moscow Stock Exchange Breaks - Trading Halted | Zero Hedge

16:37:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 1097 @ 0.00274489 = 3.0111 BTC [-] {6}

16:37:53 artifexd: True story: My wife and my daughter are both named "Cristina"

16:38:22 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 690 @ 0.00274998 = 1.8975 BTC [+] {3}

16:53:29 kuzetsa: http://media.tumblr.com/4b6a8fd428a4100035cac7d314d4010a/tumblr_inline_n845mrEL6X1stuimt.jpg

16:56:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14100 @ 0.00079114 = 11.1551 BTC [+]

16:57:47 asciilifeform: 'One glimpse at the following chart of Russian stocks today and one wonders if the West needed to arrest the gains that their "costs" had imposed...'

16:58:03 asciilifeform: run more winblows.

16:58:22 asciilifeform: build more 'elbrus' wintel clones.

17:52:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15350 @ 0.00079114 = 12.144 BTC [+]

17:57:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00079139 = 19.2308 BTC [+] {2}

18:06:07 cgcardona: top of tha morning #bitcoin-assets o/

18:08:52 cgcardona: how many people have taken MP up on the ether deal? Is that data public?

18:36:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6789 @ 0.00079114 = 5.371 BTC [-]

18:36:26 cgcardona: ;;ticker

18:36:27 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 571.01, Best ask: 572.45, Bid-ask spread: 1.44000, Last trade: 571.01, 24 hour volume: 7264.21567232, 24 hour low: 568.0, 24 hour high: 586.0, 24 hour vwap: 576.187508687

18:47:23 mircea_popescu: mthreat well it's in english :[

18:47:25 mircea_popescu: :p*

18:48:46 mthreat: ok Mercha

18:49:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 27500 @ 0.00078739 = 21.6532 BTC [-] {2}

18:53:06 mthreat: 95.1 FM in buenos aires, talking about btc right now

18:53:21 mthreat: http://streema.com/radios/Metro_95.1

18:53:22 assbot: Metro 95.1 - FM 95.1 - Buenos Aires, Argentina - Listen Online

18:53:22 mircea_popescu: cgcardona nobody.

18:53:43 mircea_popescu: mthreat omfg that's evil.

18:55:47 asciilifeform: http://www.tscm.com/TSCM101tempest.html << masterful propaganda.

18:55:49 assbot: Granite Island Group

18:56:48 asciilifeform: (99% facts, 1% 'anyone who demos a 'tempest' setup is both con artist and criminal, plug yer ears')

18:57:37 asciilifeform: (scroll down, author revealed... certified usg stooge)

18:58:14 asciilifeform: why they always must brag? were they quiet, they might actually fool somebody

18:58:23 mircea_popescu: depends who that somebody is.

18:59:20 asciilifeform: rather like the apparently inexhaustible scamz0rs who post proposal for whatever, and you scroll, see 'member of btc Phoundation'

18:59:41 asciilifeform: at that point, if he says 'sky is blue', you find yourself going out with a spectrometer - can't take his word...

19:01:06 mircea_popescu: something like that.

19:01:54 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for Yes on "Twitter stock to close at over $45 in 2014 " http://bitbet.us/bet/971/ Odds: 77(Y):23(N) by coin, 75(Y):25(N) by weight. Total bet: 2.5999 BTC. Current weight: 77,299.

19:24:01 FabianB: $traded

19:24:02 empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR

19:24:23 FabianB: $t s.mpoe

19:24:25 empyex: FabianB: S.MPOE 1 day: average: 0.00078699 high: 0.00080517 low: 0.00077883 volume: 978173 btc: 769.8098509 7 day: average: 0.0008004 high: 0.0008234 low: 0.00077883 volume: 4304098 btc: 3445.00297641 30 day: average: 0.00080474 high: 0.0008949 low: 0.00074501 volume: 11886294 btc: 9565.34374542

19:35:52 mircea_popescu: "When I am observing the Arnhem chimpanzees I sometimes feel I am studying Freud?s primal horde; as if a time machine has taken me back to prehistoric times, so that I can observe the village life of our ancestors. They still accept the droit du seigneur, one of the forgotten products of western culture. When Yeroen was the alpha male, he alone was responsible for about three-quarters of all matings. Not counting sex

19:35:53 mircea_popescu: ual intercourse with young females (who arouse less rivalry), his share was almost 100 %. Sex was his monopoly in the group." (de Waal 1990: 167-168).

19:36:16 mircea_popescu: remarkable that chimps are saner than people, and don't really care about the young girls.

19:36:48 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nothing specifically primate here. consider the elephant seal, etc

19:37:50 mircea_popescu: myeah.

19:40:11 mircea_popescu: !spank kakobrekla

19:40:38 assbot: spank kako spank!

19:40:56 mircea_popescu: lol

19:41:05 mircea_popescu: ;;google go go second time virgin

19:41:06 gribble: Go, Go Second Time Virgin (1969) - IMDb: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0065233/; Go, Go, Second Time Virgin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go,_Go,_Second_Time_Virgin; Koji Wakamatsu's Go, Go Second Time Virgin – Offscreen: http://offscreen.com/view/wakamatsu1

19:47:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16903 @ 0.00079199 = 13.387 BTC [+] {2}

19:53:04 kakobrekla: >Wikipedia Now Accepts Bitcoin Donations With Coinbase

19:53:05 kakobrekla: Posted 1 hour ago

19:53:06 kakobrekla: hehe

19:55:22 mircea_popescu: herp.

19:59:59 mthreat: i went to give $50 and the form required a name and email address, and i left

20:00:43 xmj: fluffypony: we've launched iteration II

20:00:49 xmj: fluffypony: http://www.perceivon.net

20:00:49 assbot: Perceivon Hosting Inc.

20:00:52 artifexd: !spank mircea_popescu

20:01:02 artifexd: boooo

20:01:06 assbot: spank mp spank

20:01:22 mircea_popescu: donating to wikipedia is kind of like donating to korea's rocketry programme. even if it were valid science i still wouldn't do it.

20:01:53 artifexd: kakobrekla: How does assbot come up with the abbreviations for responding to spank?

20:02:12 kakobrekla: NN algo.

20:02:23 artifexd: No. Seriously.

20:02:27 kakobrekla: seriously.

20:02:57 artifexd: What was the training material?

20:03:12 kakobrekla: 26 years of kako

20:04:22 artifexd: You say "NN". I read "Neural Net". Did I misread?

20:04:39 fluffypony: Non Nude?

20:04:55 mthreat: mircea_popescu: I guess I want it to stick around, so i want to donate

20:05:08 artifexd: Maybe nearest neighbor. That would make your response more sensical.

20:05:12 mircea_popescu: WETWARE

20:05:15 mircea_popescu: assbot's a sloot.

20:06:49 assbot: spank arti spank

20:07:42 artifexd: !s spank

20:07:42 assbot: 39 results for 'spank' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=spank

20:09:11 kakobrekla: artifexd it is i, leclerc.

20:09:49 mthreat: now when I read ben lawsky's name, I read it in my head as "ben lolsky"

20:09:51 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 34000 @ 0.00078808 = 26.7947 BTC [-] {2}

20:11:56 mircea_popescu: it is a lawly name.

20:13:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37889 @ 0.00078469 = 29.7311 BTC [-] {2}

20:20:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20999 @ 0.00078264 = 16.4347 BTC [-] {2}

20:35:44 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/time-for-some-bitlicenses-of-our-own/

20:36:58 mircea_popescu: coingenuity http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html ?

20:36:58 assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times

20:38:27 rithm: mmhmmmm

20:40:06 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: letter to the sultan!

20:41:13 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform hm ?

20:41:39 asciilifeform: obligatory:

20:41:39 asciilifeform: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/50/Ilja_Jefimowitsch_Repin_009.jpg

20:42:58 mircea_popescu: ;;rate coingenuity -1 http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-bitcoin-defrauding-20140729-story.html apparently there's substance to all those nondelivery claims ?

20:42:59 assbot: Bitcoin trading website accused of defrauding thousands of customers - LA Times

20:43:00 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of -1 for user coingenuity has been recorded.

20:43:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform :p

20:43:42 mircea_popescu: i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.

20:47:27 rithm: mtgox may have done in whatever coinabul's business model was

20:47:35 rithm: personal speculation

20:49:16 mod6: hrm. I placed 2 small orders and recieved, but that was over a year ago :/

20:49:39 rithm: my orders were small and delayed

20:49:47 rithm: but received

20:50:07 rithm: i think the business model had a side business involving time-value

20:50:12 rithm: hence delay

20:50:18 rithm: but i have no proof of this

20:56:50 BigBitz: but coinginuity always claimed to be a multi-millionaire metal dealer. etc.

21:01:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.00078252 = 17.1372 BTC [-]

21:03:40 kakobrekla: ;;seen coinginuity

21:03:41 gribble: I have not seen coinginuity.

21:05:09 rithm: BigBitz i believe this to be a fabrication

21:05:40 BigBitz: What's that?

21:05:48 BigBitz: his multi-millionaire aspect? :p

21:06:50 rithm: correct.

21:07:44 fluffypony: or the part where he beats people up outside bars

21:07:51 thickasthieves: ;;seen coingenuity

21:07:52 gribble: coingenuity was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 23 weeks, 6 days, 16 hours, 58 minutes, and 10 seconds ago: <coingenuity> mircea_popescu: there's a lot of them

21:09:48 kakobrekla: yeah i thought i seen him here

21:10:37 mod6: he's in here now, just not voiced.

21:10:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22900 @ 0.00078094 = 17.8835 BTC [-] {3}

21:12:35 kakobrekla: also re nondelivery https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606385.0

21:12:36 assbot: Kraken - 6 months and still cannot get my money

21:13:01 kakobrekla: the PR reply starts with

21:13:02 kakobrekla: Hi shardymop - I'm really sorry about the trouble you've been having

21:13:12 kakobrekla: goxitup!

21:22:34 kuzetsa: hmm

21:22:58 kuzetsa: I'm flattered I suppose --- someone from here (presumably) is vaguely stalking me & now following me on twitter O_O

21:23:07 artifexd: ;;later tell jurov Did you come up with a script for the wot video? Do you still need somebody to record the mac version?

21:23:08 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:23:56 kuzetsa: whoever is @Bitcoin_Assets, I assume, is from in here (though I could be mistaken in that assumption)

21:24:56 kakobrekla: kuzetsa i think tat has that.

21:25:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21390 @ 0.00077844 = 16.6508 BTC [-] {2}

21:29:49 thickasthieves: stalking, research, what's the difference

21:30:12 thickasthieves: you were being elusive so i googled

21:30:45 jurov: artifexd i'm looking forward to a mostly offline week, scripting will come later.

21:32:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [HASH] 25 @ 0.022 = 0.55 BTC

21:37:48 jurov: tat is into grandmas?

21:38:36 thickasthieves: grandma?

21:38:37 thickasthieves: https://twitter.com/Bitcoin_Assets/status/494597684229992448

21:39:59 thickasthieves: http://www.scribd.com/doc/235471330/Adverse-Job-Impact-of-the-DFS-BitLicense-Proposal

21:40:02 assbot: Adverse Job Impact of the DFS BitLicense Proposal

21:41:33 thestringpuller: WoT video?

21:42:28 thestringpuller: !s wot video

21:42:29 assbot: 0 results for 'wot video' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wot+video

21:42:36 thestringpuller: !s web of trust video

21:42:36 assbot: 0 results for 'web of trust video' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=web+of+trust+video

21:42:39 thestringpuller: :(

21:42:52 artifexd: !s wot recording

21:42:53 assbot: 7 results for 'wot recording' : http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=wot+recording

21:43:41 artifexd: Summary: Make a few videos showing how to register a nick, create a key, register in the wot.

21:46:28 artifexd: thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-07-2014#777306

21:46:28 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

21:46:37 thestringpuller: thx

21:52:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6211 @ 0.00078368 = 4.8674 BTC [+]

21:53:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6763 @ 0.00078736 = 5.3249 BTC [+]

21:57:27 BingoBoingo: Implement ?UTXO commitments? blockchain pruning and ?fully validating but not full-history? nodes << Killing this is basically the goal of Fall 2014-2015

21:57:56 jborkl: where is the mpex.co site now?

21:58:01 BingoBoingo: mpex.ws

21:58:22 jborkl: sweet, thank you

22:00:05 jurov: $proxies

22:00:08 empyex: jurov: Proxies: mpex.ws mpex.bz mpex.coinbr.com MPEx-Status: 931 milliseconds Current MPEx GPG-Key-ID: 02DD2D91

22:00:47 jborkl: answered my next question

22:02:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 989 @ 0.0025807 = 2.5523 BTC [-] {19}

22:07:26 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/spoondoolies-delivers-first-sp30/

22:07:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17026 @ 0.00078755 = 13.4088 BTC [+]

22:21:17 kakobrekla: ;;bc,stats

22:21:20 gribble: Current Blocks: 313241 | Current Difficulty: 1.8736441558310238E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 314495 | Next Difficulty In: 1254 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 1 week, 0 days, 1 hour, 4 minutes, and 43 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 19751039961.3 | Estimated Percent Change: 5.41511

22:21:40 kakobrekla: this thing is like a virus.

22:45:56 fluffypony: ;;seen mircea_popescu

22:45:56 gribble: mircea_popescu was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 hours, 2 minutes, and 13 seconds ago: <mircea_popescu> i didn't think the rss had propagated yet.

22:46:01 fluffypony: such quiet

22:47:34 kakobrekla: go back to work!

22:48:24 fluffypony: kakobrekla: you're not the boss of me!

22:48:52 kakobrekla: i do what i want!

22:48:59 fluffypony: go to your room!

22:49:04 fluffypony: oh wait, this is your room

22:49:05 fluffypony: nm then

22:49:14 kakobrekla: just on paper.

22:49:30 fluffypony: such benevolence :-P

22:50:09 kakobrekla: ikr.

22:50:14 fluffypony: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=717719.0

22:50:14 assbot: has 'blocktech' been associated with anything other than pump and dumps?

22:50:16 fluffypony: lol

22:50:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12524 @ 0.00078651 = 9.8503 BTC [-] {2}

22:50:28 fluffypony: brought to you by the David Seaman circlejerk

22:50:50 fluffypony: !up FoOdies5

22:50:52 fluffypony: !up neuroMode

22:51:07 fluffypony: FoOdies5, neuroMode, you guys have interacted with blocktech no?

22:51:18 FoOdies5: yup

22:51:19 fluffypony: or just with Weiner?

22:51:30 FoOdies5: just weiner

22:51:36 FoOdies5: lol can't even type his name without smiling

22:51:44 FoOdies5: 8bit interacted with one of their devs

22:51:50 fluffypony: this whole Naut / Dirac thing seems like one continuous stream of bullshit

22:51:52 FoOdies5: personally

22:52:31 FoOdies5: it's in my top 10 ongoing retarded crypto schemes list

22:52:37 FoOdies5: near the top

22:52:45 fluffypony: lol

22:53:12 FoOdies5: firstly a coin created by a wallstreet guy is obviously a get rich quick/slow scheme

22:53:15 FoOdies5: either way it's a scheme

22:53:36 fluffypony: with a "stabilisation fund" that hasn't stabilised anything

22:53:38 FoOdies5: and dirac ... wat ?

22:53:47 FoOdies5: what the fuck can you stabilize with a premine ?

22:53:52 FoOdies5: maybe keep the coin from going up

22:53:55 FoOdies5: by dumping

22:53:56 FoOdies5: that you can do

22:54:15 Duffer1: i read that as blatant manipulation, we just use different words

22:54:23 Duffer1: ""

22:54:36 fluffypony: yeah

22:54:42 FoOdies5: either way it's clear cut what the goal of that coin is

22:54:57 FoOdies5: so it baffles me why anyone in their right mind would invest in it

22:55:02 fluffypony: tbh I don't know if the NBC "contributor" / blogger dude intended it that way

22:55:08 FoOdies5: except maybe if he can outtrade the owner and get some money

22:55:10 FoOdies5: or ride it

22:55:11 fluffypony: the article he wrote was all like "this is my little experiment"

22:55:27 fluffypony: and I think Weiner et. al. convinced him it could be "bigger" than an experiment

22:55:31 Duffer1: consider the audience foodies, reddit/bitcointalk "investors"

22:55:36 fluffypony: lol

22:55:52 FoOdies5: or a social experiment to see how dumb people can be

22:56:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 285 @ 0.0025 = 0.7125 BTC [-]

22:57:18 fluffypony: that too

22:57:35 FoOdies5: Duffer1 I applaud your quotes

22:57:45 FoOdies5: sorry I was helping preggers get ready for sleep

22:58:12 fluffypony: how far along is she?

22:58:22 FoOdies5: 9 months yesterday

22:58:24 FoOdies5: lel

22:58:31 fluffypony: I think it's about time

22:58:31 FoOdies5: ticking timebomb

22:58:34 fluffypony: I'm guessing, though

22:58:35 fluffypony: :-P

22:58:49 FoOdies5: I swear she's waiting to steal my birthday

22:58:57 FoOdies5: which is tomorrow (1st aug)

22:59:11 FoOdies5: her mom stole it by setting our wedding date on my b-day

22:59:20 FoOdies5: and now the daughter wants to be born on my b-day

22:59:25 FoOdies5: fucking women

22:59:26 fluffypony: lol

22:59:42 FoOdies5: .... wait that's how I got in this whole mess to begin with ... by fucking women

22:59:44 FoOdies5: so scratch that

22:59:54 BigBitz: fuck men?

23:00:01 *: BigBitz is out...

23:00:02 fluffypony: BigBitz has a point

23:00:08 FoOdies5: out in a blaze of glory

23:01:12 FoOdies5: seriously tho when the fuck is Kubo gonna switch to Bach vs Squad 0 fights already

23:01:22 FoOdies5: this zombies shit is boooooring

23:01:30 fluffypony: I have no idea what you just said

23:01:42 neuroMode: unfortunately for NAUT

23:01:49 FoOdies5: manga

23:01:51 FoOdies5: Bleach

23:01:57 neuroMode: I think Brian Kelly is shooting himself in the foot by listening to the cryptogoblins pushing for POS

23:02:02 fluffypony: FoOdies5: aaah, outside of my wheelhouse

23:02:08 fluffypony: neuroMode: agreed

23:02:10 neuroMode: Naut immediately becomes a pyramid scheme

23:02:18 neuroMode: like all other POS coins

23:02:24 fluffypony: I can't look at a PoS coin without thinking it stands for "piece of shit"

23:02:29 neuroMode: agreed

23:02:35 neuroMode: its almost like its a joke

23:02:41 neuroMode: purposefully named with that acronym

23:03:22 neuroMode: i mean...let's create artificially rare coins that only have a week of distribution

23:03:39 neuroMode: now, let's all make it our job to try and convince someone else to buy it for more than we paid

23:03:48 neuroMode: with no other means of obtaining it

23:04:08 fluffypony: I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present)

23:04:24 fluffypony: I just hate this bait-and-switch tactic that seems to be common

23:04:24 neuroMode: it becomes very obviously a pyramid scheme no matter how well disguised the marketing campaign is

23:04:34 neuroMode: yep

23:04:38 neuroMode: and you know a dev is naive

23:04:45 fluffypony: launch a PoW shitcoin, and then "suddenly" announce it's changing to PoS

23:04:49 neuroMode: when he succumbs to his community's derailed wishes to turn POS

23:05:20 neuroMode: yep. its all the cryptogoblins that pout about inflation and have a very narrow scope of cryptocurrencies

23:05:22 FoOdies5: what's tiresome is the endless waves of supporters for these piles of shit

23:05:31 neuroMode: indeed

23:05:35 neuroMode: it never ends

23:05:41 neuroMode: no matter how muhc money people lose

23:05:49 neuroMode: cryptocurrencies are more of a casino to gamble at

23:05:58 neuroMode: than any real 'investment'

23:06:04 neuroMode: to the majority of people nowadays

23:06:11 fluffypony: I wonder how much of it is the same group of retards investing in a new shitcoin hoping to get rich

23:06:41 neuroMode: i wonder how many actual devs there are making these coins. Its likea fucking business now. I bet its like 5 groups of guys

23:06:55 neuroMode: its all too cookie-cutter

23:07:01 neuroMode: same logo designs

23:07:04 fluffypony: thickasthieves is best altcoin dev

23:07:24 fluffypony: he launched this: http://therealaltcoin.org

23:07:27 assbot: The Real Altcoin (ATC) – Never Mine Another Altcoin Again

23:08:02 neuroMode: heh

23:08:06 fluffypony: :-Pa

23:08:36 *: neuroMode stops everything im doing, dumps all other altcoins, and buys Altcoin

23:08:53 neuroMode: game over man

23:09:00 fluffypony: done and dusted

23:09:08 fluffypony: I see the new thing is you have to release a whitepaper

23:09:16 fluffypony: but it shouldn't have any maths or cryptography in

23:09:28 neuroMode: lol

23:09:29 fluffypony: just nonsensical diagrams and walls of text written by a monkey

23:09:32 neuroMode: a glorified OP post

23:09:50 neuroMode: its such a disgrace to what actual research/white papers are

23:10:14 fluffypony: mypersonal favourite is the SummerCoinV2 whitepaper

23:10:21 neuroMode: lol

23:10:25 neuroMode: u have a quicklink?

23:10:27 fluffypony: https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F33233oj.jpg&t=542&c=EXXu8SAvckAPmw

23:10:31 fluffypony: that's an image from it

23:10:40 fluffypony: actual whitepaper: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qyc04dd9m64i5l2/Navajo%20Anonymous%20Technology%20Whitepaper%28English%29.pdf

23:10:41 assbot: Dropbox - Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper(English).pdf

23:10:59 fluffypony: I believe that all altcoins in the future should include Star Gates

23:11:26 fluffypony: I'm disappointed that thickasthieves hasn't even bothered releasing a whitepaper promising Choctaw Star Gates for Altcoin

23:11:44 BingoBoingo: <fluffypony> I don't fundamentally have an issue with PoS as an experiment (albeit one doomed for failure at present) << Proof of Stake essentially lets big bagholders delude themselves longer by becoming still bigger bagholders

23:12:11 neuroMode: Navajo Anonymous Technology Whitepaper AKA FAQ

23:12:43 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: yep - what I meant is that I don't have a problem if someone launches a PoS coin with something fundamentally different to PPC, I don't think it's bad to play with stuff in a real-world environment

23:13:10 fluffypony: but they break their social contract when they launch as one thing and then suddenly change to another

23:13:37 neuroMode: pre-fucking-cisely

23:14:15 BingoBoingo: Well, the same breach happens when a coin switches from mining its own chain to merged mining

23:14:35 BingoBoingo: Many a lower case altcoin died that way

23:14:39 neuroMode: it just emphasizes the pointlessness and aimlessness of the coin, and makes the coin now flagged for possible scam

23:14:41 fluffypony: yep

23:18:55 FoOdies5: BingoBoingo merged mining should be a feature for niche coins

23:19:21 FoOdies5: coins with the purpose of serving small niches that won't attract big mining

23:19:33 fluffypony: the ones that need to peg to another blockchain for security

23:19:37 BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: Not really, the market forces merged mining brings a lot of coins to an early slaughter.

23:19:53 BingoBoingo: Larger miners have an incentive to dump immediately

23:20:00 FoOdies5: so that via merged mining they secure their chain in exchange for a part of their reward

23:20:17 FoOdies5: merged mining + lower coinbase for auxpow

23:20:34 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: if it becomes the "in thing" to use your own cryptocurrency for loyalty systems we may see more of this

23:20:42 FoOdies5: they need to offer as much as they're willing to get dumped

23:20:53 FoOdies5: exactly fluffypony

23:21:06 BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5

23:21:10 BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode

23:21:46 BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: There's also the chance that the big miner that picks up a coin for Merged mining won't be friendly to it, see CoiledCoin as an early example

23:21:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]

23:22:12 FoOdies5: I'm not aware of it's fate

23:22:14 FoOdies5: tl;dr ?

23:23:42 fluffypony: FoOdies5: it merge-mined with Bitcoin

23:23:57 fluffypony: so Luke-Jr used the hashing power on Eligius to 51% attack the coin

23:24:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 2 @ 0.3000001 = 0.6 BTC [+]

23:24:17 kakobrekla: !up Luke-Jr

23:24:24 kakobrekla: told ya, child rapists.

23:24:36 fluffypony: a lot of miners got pissy that Luke-Jr was using their hash without their permission

23:24:36 ben_vulpes: man can we yet drop this btc thing and just start using integer satoshi plz?

23:24:42 ben_vulpes: yet? still? now?

23:24:53 FoOdies5: what a complete douche

23:25:11 fluffypony: ben_vulpes: we first have to move to "Bits"

23:25:19 ben_vulpes: fluffypony: bwaaaaat

23:25:22 fluffypony: and then argue for a few years

23:25:25 ben_vulpes: no

23:25:27 ben_vulpes: 0

23:25:27 ben_vulpes: 1

23:25:30 ben_vulpes: infinity

23:25:32 fluffypony: ikr

23:25:38 ben_vulpes: there's a limit, let's go to it.

23:25:41 fluffypony: did you hear about the Blockchain.info iOS wallet?

23:25:47 *: ben_vulpes buries head in co--

23:25:48 FoOdies5: what about it ?

23:25:48 ben_vulpes: no what

23:25:51 fluffypony: I think it runs in Bits by default

23:25:56 ben_vulpes: what is a fucking Bit

23:25:59 fluffypony: when you click on a payment link

23:25:59 FoOdies5: how much is Bit ?

23:26:03 fluffypony: it assumes you're paying in Bits

23:26:07 fluffypony: FoOdies5: 100 satoshis

23:26:13 FoOdies5: ah

23:26:17 ben_vulpes: ffs are you serious?

23:26:20 fluffypony: yep

23:26:22 fluffypony: they patched it

23:26:34 fluffypony: but not before people made payments that were 1/100000 of what they meant to pay

23:26:40 ben_vulpes: mediocre engineers as far as the eyes can see

23:26:53 *: ben_vulpes sticks his head back into the code-sands

23:27:22 fluffypony: this is the problem that occurs when "functional tests" involve "I can send and receive 0.0005 BTC"

23:27:47 FoOdies5: scarcity side-effect

23:28:03 FoOdies5: people will fuck up when they have a gazillion decimals to work with

23:28:23 kakobrekla: i did the scaling long ago btw

23:28:24 kakobrekla: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=197435.msg2065663#msg2065663

23:28:25 assbot: Why I'm switching to mXBT and why you should too

23:28:29 fluffypony: lol

23:28:55 fluffypony: I thought we all agreed we were going to switch to Tonal Bitcoin?

23:29:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.29083333 = 1.745 BTC [-] {3}

23:29:11 FoOdies5: are all crypto enthusiasts doing drugs ?

23:29:19 FoOdies5: kek

23:29:23 FoOdies5: tortilla recipe

23:29:43 fluffypony: how am I ever going to be able to say :"just send ma 4.3743 BongBitcoin"

23:30:05 ben_vulpes: i hate you all

23:30:33 FoOdies5: why me ?

23:30:33 fluffypony: no you don't

23:30:35 FoOdies5: I'm new here

23:30:36 FoOdies5: :|

23:30:41 FoOdies5: semi

23:31:26 fluffypony: on that high note

23:31:28 fluffypony: I'm out

23:31:29 fluffypony: night all

23:31:40 kakobrekla: good luck

23:31:50 ben_vulpes: (i don't actually, fluffypony )

23:32:12 FoOdies5: gn fatso

23:50:07 BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: The short story of CoiledCoin is you need to find and read the long story to understand the things making lowercase altcoins fail have been happening for a long time as the Coiled Coin story makes an interesting contrast to other altcoins which were its contemporaries and still died albeit in other ways

23:51:43 BingoBoingo: This current drama with Doge, LTC, ethereum et al happened before 2-3 years ago

23:51:46 BingoBoingo: !up FoOdies5

23:51:49 BingoBoingo: !up neuroMode

23:52:07 neuroMode: :)

23:52:36 neuroMode: BingoBoingo, do you have a good link for CoiledCoin?

23:52:48 FoOdies5: I just googled it

23:53:08 FoOdies5: the dev is basically saying Luke-Jr is a douche in the op

23:53:12 BingoBoingo: neuroMode: Maybe? Maybe the searching is part of the point? Searching gets you the failure of its comtemporaries as well if you dig right

23:53:13 FoOdies5: and declaring the coin dead

23:53:40 neuroMode: lmgtfmyself

23:53:52 BingoBoingo: FoOdies5: You merely found the post. Find the narrative, the story behind it.

23:56:06 BingoBoingo: Also apparently mircea_popescu is unwelcome in West Virginia http://gawker.com/woman-walks-naked-man-on-dog-leash-puts-unknown-object-1613629007

23:56:07 assbot: Woman Walks Naked Man on Dog Leash, Puts Unknown Object in His Anus