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00:13:27 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/29o8SOa.jpg

00:13:28 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwmqqI )

00:20:00 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15108 @ 0.0006915 = 10.4472 BTC [+]

00:27:08 jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html

00:27:12 assbot: Newly found TrueCrypt flaw allows full system compromise | ITworld ... ( http://bit.ly/1KQcONi )

00:28:42 jurov: "The first phase of the TrueCrypt audit project, ... covered the driver code, but "Windows drivers are complex beasts"

00:28:45 jurov: and it's easy to miss local elevation of privilege flaws, Forshaw said on Twitter."

00:39:53 jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/

00:39:54 assbot: It’s sleazy, it’s totally illegal, and yet it could become the future of retirement - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1jwpVNU )

00:40:33 jurov: anyone going in together? :D

00:40:51 jurov: “This might be the iPhone of retirement products,” says Moshe Milevsky, an associate professor of finance at York University

00:41:00 jurov: iProfesor

00:43:28 BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.

00:44:01 deedbot-: [Qntra] Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed - http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/

00:50:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5200 @ 0.0006915 = 3.5958 BTC [+]

00:51:03 BingoBoingo: jurov: I could see it. Tontines make some pretty good stories too.

00:57:57 BingoBoingo: In related news, the botanical season of fall started today in the front yard. First leaves on the Sweet Gum tree changed colors in the past three hours.

01:05:49 BingoBoingo: https://i.imgur.com/9Nc2CZP.jpg

01:05:51 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QKbCzz )

01:13:07 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << run moar winblowz! (tm) (r)

01:13:07 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html

01:17:37 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: How's the weather over there?

01:23:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21050 @ 0.0006915 = 14.5561 BTC [+]

01:32:43 asciilifeform: http://www.coindesk.com/rogue-fbi-agent-searching-for-lost-bitcoin-silk-road-advisor-alleges << mega-brokentelephone-l0l

01:32:44 assbot: Rogue FBI Agent Searching for Lost Bitcoin, Silk Road Advisor Alleges ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFcdF9 )

01:34:03 asciilifeform: obligatory: ''How would they dare?' he said. 'I was such a pure and terrifying Aryan that they even put me in a special detachment. Its mission was to find out how the Jews always knew what the S.S. was going to do next There was a leak somewhere, and we were out to stop it' He looked bitter and affronted, remembering it, even though he had been that leak. 'Was the detachment successful in its mission?' I said. 'I'm happy to s

01:34:44 asciilifeform: (k. vonnegut. 'mother night.')

01:35:14 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10800 @ 0.0006915 = 7.4682 BTC [+]

01:35:33 asciilifeform: '...'I'm happy to say,' said Arpad, 'that fourteen S.S. men were shot on our recommendation. Adolf Eichmann himself congratulated us. 'You met him, did you?' I said. 'Yes' said Arpad, 'and I'm sorry I didn't know at the time how important he was.' 'Why?' I said. 'I would have killed him,' said Arpad.'

01:38:15 asciilifeform: ;;bc,stats

01:38:36 gribble: Current Blocks: {"blockcount":376772} | Current Difficulty: {"difficulty":59335351233.86657} | Next Difficulty At Block: None | Next Difficulty In: None blocks | Next Difficulty In About: None | Next Difficulty Estimate: None | Estimated Percent Change: None

01:40:54 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288008 << not only is it still a thing, but there is TO THIS DAY nothing like an actual replacement for it.

01:40:54 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:43:28; BingoBoingo: jurov: ty for the Truecrypt link. I almost forgot that was ever a thing.

01:44:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 36000 @ 0.0006915 = 24.894 BTC [+]

01:52:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5550 @ 0.00068887 = 3.8232 BTC [-]

01:53:48 BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Well there's a popular and derpy for and than... just kinda forgot that niche existed

02:07:10 *: BingoBoingo in a time before Bitcoin resorted to truecrypt as a "don't you dare spy on my Win Box Dorm neighbors" measure.

02:14:08 BingoBoingo: Obese Privilege http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/overweight-people-seen-as-too-fat-to-commit-crimes-a2956586.html

02:14:08 assbot: 'Overweight' people seen as 'too fat' to commit crimes, study finds | UK | News | London Evening Standard ... ( http://bit.ly/1FGZbUE )

02:15:24 trinque: damn, that's one hell of an ass-overflow

02:16:18 BingoBoingo: trinque: Reports are the UK has a still worse Obeast infestation than the US

02:23:13 mike_c: bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/

02:23:13 assbot: BitBet - Jeb Bush will be Republicans' 2016 Presidential Nominee :: 1.03 B (86%) on Yes, 0.17 B (14%) on No | closing in 6 months 3 weeks | weight: 98`683 (100`000 to 1) ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJwPbF )

02:29:29 BingoBoingo: mike_c: Don't forget Rubio

02:29:55 cazalla: http://i.imgur.com/aHCf6T7.jpg thank you steve, thank you

02:29:56 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KJZixL )

02:40:08 mike_c: srsly, all the more reason to bet no, right?

02:40:30 BingoBoingo: mike_c: Seriously on Both bets.

02:41:45 *: BingoBoingo decided to for "yes" to Rubio rather than "no" on jeb with his stake though https://bitbet.us/stats/14BqjpHAeM2EC6aJkrzM7cbTeePQCJJs5C/

02:41:46 assbot: BitBet Stats ... ( http://bit.ly/1KK06Tn )

02:53:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30250 @ 0.00068652 = 20.7672 BTC [-] {4}

02:57:15 trinque: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/30/us-un-assembly-idUSKCN0RT2MS20150930 << He added: "If it (Russia) is against the terrorists, it's not abnormal to launch strikes against them."

02:57:16 assbot: Powers struggle to agree on Syria; Russia urged to strike Islamic State | Reuters ... ( http://bit.ly/1MZz6mr )

02:59:52 trinque: Russia seems to be demonstrating *to the Middle East* that it is cooler head among the external powers.

03:00:43 trinque: *the cooler head

03:08:23 trinque: it will be a fascinating thing if the US attempt to align the Middle East with itself - via some naive "we'll make them all South Korea and Japan!" notion - results in alignment with Russia, and even more amusing if the thing actually results in some semblance of "peace in the Middle East" down the road

03:17:42 mike_c: I think rubio is warming up for the next one.

03:19:59 BingoBoingo: mike_c: He prolly is. Wants to resurrect the McCain/Romney train since Santorum had to be skipped.

03:32:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18300 @ 0.00068286 = 12.4963 BTC [-] {3}

03:32:46 BingoBoingo: mike_c: The republican nominee field this year is awfully noisy. Rand is falling into his father's pattern, Lizards love Fiorina, and Trump is just a protest vote.

03:41:03 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i imagine those people will put more into advertising it than davout ever did, and so will take over.

03:41:50 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: For a portion of the market, but like many other things at some point they will probably die suddenly

03:57:09 mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1290.jpg

03:57:10 assbot: 404 Not Found ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt6sB )

03:57:13 mircea_popescu: oops

03:57:16 mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://36.media.tumblr.com/88592d7877ee342801c347b98a0d2038/tumblr_nq3hgfT7gY1s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg

03:57:17 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBt8AG )

03:58:08 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287784 << right, for people who want to invest in eur without actually holding any >D

03:58:08 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:24:01; jurov: x.eur is for people who start with btc

04:00:57 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287799 << yeah, on the grounds of having been built for reasonably well off / middle class people in the... 1920s.

04:00:57 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:32:23; ascii_field: tremendously posh infrastructure still in place, but the regulars are - i have it on good authority - in their 70s and 80s

04:01:35 mircea_popescu: whatch five fucking minutes from the beginning "Band wagon" with fred astaire to get a fucking idea of what life in america still was, in the 50s.

04:02:14 mircea_popescu: hint : dude travels ON THE TRAIN with a pile of luggage. he tells the porter to take it all and put it in a cab and send it at so and so hotel. because he's a dude in the suit traveling solo and can't be bothered to lift anything heavier than his hat

04:02:22 mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.

04:02:46 mircea_popescu: today fucking airlines can't as much as not forever lose your bags, let alone SEND PEOPLE TO PICK THEM UP FROM YOUR FUCKING CAB!!!!

04:03:08 mircea_popescu: (except in turkey, where they do, and for this reason alone the united states should be a subject state of istanbul!)

04:03:46 mircea_popescu: fucking bullshit world where i have to have valet slavegirls because everyone in it is an imbecile.

04:07:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18370 @ 0.00068223 = 12.5326 BTC [-]

04:07:58 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287810 << ahahah. also as to the praxis, "Superfluous redundancy" :D

04:07:58 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:34:09; phf: жидобольшевик? seems like saying the same thing twice

04:09:40 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287814 << not true, greeks invented that one.

04:09:40 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:37:55; jurov: cargocult masonry aside, i surmised they invented structured discussion, i.e. it was clear at all times whose turn is to speak

04:10:24 mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.

04:14:55 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287823 << you know it was just b-a of the 1800s.

04:14:55 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 19:43:58; phf: ^ i think it's such an exquisite stab at freemasonry. a brief fictional exchange reveals the absurdity of the entire "pretense"

04:17:08 *: BingoBoingo kinda worries for the #b-a of the 2130's

04:18:13 mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zW5n64zFO-Q << lolz. compare and contrast with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eu277VhDdW4

04:18:14 assbot: "RIDING the GOAT" Very strange Fraternal Lodge Initiation, 1928. - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwS )

04:18:15 assbot: Sexiest Mechanical Bull Ride - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmarwU )

04:18:26 mircea_popescu: easily a paragon of womanhood. above any big tits, hips, legs, blabla.

04:18:36 mircea_popescu: can do that, is a woman. can't do that, has shit to learn yet.

04:20:14 mircea_popescu: her fucking ankles aren't even touching. thighs an' that's it.

04:31:06 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker --market all

04:31:13 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD last: 237.14, vol: 17191.29334113 | BTC-E BTCUSD last: 236.295, vol: 6093.89029 | Bitfinex BTCUSD last: 238.7, vol: 8365.56644987 | CampBX BTCUSD last: 260.0, vol: 1.91594316 | BTCChina BTCUSD last: 242.242, vol: 26981.18780000 | Kraken BTCUSD last: 236.136, vol: 68.22471848 | Bitcoin-Central BTCUSD last: 241.93748, vol: 47.59175733 | Volume-weighted last average: (1 more message)

04:31:14 BingoBoingo: ;;more

04:31:15 gribble: 239.621079249

04:32:40 mircea_popescu: But, somehow, when we mention it, he wears a look so grim we wonder if he rode the goat ---- or if the goat rode him!

04:32:45 mircea_popescu: ahahaha that's alright.

04:33:36 BingoBoingo: It isn't called "horny goat weed" for nothing

04:34:00 mircea_popescu: manifestly.

04:35:58 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287842 << of some interest would perhaps be what you yourself mean when you say "von neuman architecture".

04:35:58 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:04:37; thestringpuller: ascii_field: could the sane computer be of von neuman architecture? or does that even matter?

04:36:12 mircea_popescu: and no, i'm not asking what alf means. i know what he means.

04:41:02 mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion

04:41:03 assbot: The Real Problem of Sexual Assault on Campus? | Uncouth Reflections ... ( http://bit.ly/1VmbAob )

04:42:01 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287873 << they can't, just, idiots put up with it.

04:42:01 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:14:50; ascii_field: where they seal up restaurants with people trapped inside, stop cars at gunpoint for hours, BECAUSE THEY CAN

04:42:25 mircea_popescu: and yes they should rub it in. more every day, that's the only way the worms will get the point.

04:42:34 mircea_popescu: this, incidentally, is the one thing the usg does right.

04:42:57 mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.

04:43:55 mircea_popescu: when boys start listening to their moms and acting with "common decency", the one thing they get is their asshole fucked like it were a pussy.

04:43:58 mircea_popescu: because in fact it is.

04:46:49 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.

04:46:49 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:16:54; ascii_field: and since mircea_popescu appears to be sleeping, i will have to fill in for him and say 'this is what usians get for not being pashtuns!' aha.

04:47:02 mircea_popescu: "usian" isn't a thing to be.

04:47:18 mircea_popescu: not anymore than fat acceptance is a thing to do.

04:48:59 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287899 << dude this is like the "oh show me a rothschild" nonsense.

04:48:59 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:23:15; ascii_field: thestringpuller: notice that ~exclusively~ local/municipal police are ever killed. as to why: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=02-09-2015#1259456

04:49:06 mircea_popescu: everyone in usg gets killed all the fucking time

04:49:18 mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.

04:49:26 mircea_popescu: nobody is immune.

04:49:31 mircea_popescu: they know this themselves.

04:49:42 mircea_popescu: and here you come with bizarro world fantasies.

04:51:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5800 @ 0.0006915 = 4.0107 BTC [+]

05:20:56 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21950 @ 0.0006915 = 15.1784 BTC [+]

05:50:25 assbot: [MPEX] [FT] [X.EUR] 273 @ 0.00466302 = 1.273 BTC [+] {4}

05:52:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13350 @ 0.0006884 = 9.1901 BTC [-]

05:58:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12737 @ 0.0006915 = 8.8076 BTC [+]

06:18:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4082 @ 0.0006915 = 2.8227 BTC [+]

06:21:25 BingoBoingo: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3254318/American-woman-s-bizarre-Vegemite-racist-YouTube-rant.html

06:21:25 assbot: US woman posts #banvegemite rant online because she thinks the spread is racist | Daily Mail Online ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx8pZX )

06:22:25 BingoBoingo: ?Ever since the 1950s-or whatever-vegemite has been a way to symbolically make white Australians feel superior to Aboriginals by literally eating their f*****g skin in a jar.?

06:27:49 cazalla: hate to admit it, but there is little more i enjoy that butter soaked bread with an inch thick spread of vegemite

06:27:54 cazalla: than*

06:28:43 cazalla: shit BingoBoingo that video is from July https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDAOodylljM

06:28:43 assbot: Eating Vegemite is racist towards Aboriginals - because it is black - YouTube ... ( http://bit.ly/1jx9kcK )

06:28:57 BingoBoingo: Isn't vegemite just failed beer?

06:29:41 mircea_popescu: you can't eat foods that have a color now ?

06:29:48 mircea_popescu: tofu is fucking white.

06:30:44 mircea_popescu: in other news, the female herding behaviour. (the practitioners refer it as "protecting", because totally, there's so much that wrinkly ass can protect from and so very much protection teh young slut needs.) http://41.media.tumblr.com/1fae76d2e368184cb8f67fd935a7190d/tumblr_nq3h28JcX41s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg

06:30:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBG3CF )

06:30:59 cazalla: s'gotta be a troll

06:34:23 punkman: the mech-bull is a stand-in for a sybian right?

06:38:12 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6700 @ 0.00068651 = 4.5996 BTC [-] {3}

06:40:58 mircea_popescu: notrly.

06:42:07 mircea_popescu: but, to quote older material, http://fraudsters.com/2011/erotoghid-pentru-femeia-adulta/#selection-41.381-41.509

06:42:07 assbot: Erotoghid pentru femeia adulta on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxb0Dg )

06:42:32 mircea_popescu: "a woman that can not use her own body to extemporaneously exemplify grace has scant changes to sexual fulfillment".

06:43:01 punkman: chick was pretty good, most derps on youtube try to hold on using only their hands

06:43:06 mircea_popescu: yup.

06:43:28 mircea_popescu: the reason she's so good is because she puts no work into it whatsoever. just absorbs the bull with minimal friction.

06:43:46 mircea_popescu: this happens to be a perfectly fine (if negative) definition of gracefulness, and thus a fine way to measure it.

06:44:57 punkman: plenty of friction between bull and vulva

06:45:07 mircea_popescu: notrly.

06:45:29 mircea_popescu: (the reason the thigh gap exists, anatomically, is exactly to provide insulation from work friction as seen there. her cunt's in the air throughout)

06:47:41 mircea_popescu: also the mechanical bull is specifically designed to defeat men, which is to say, humans who use force to compensate for a lack of gracefulness.

06:47:58 mircea_popescu: the thing with using force is that your muscles are dual controlled, there's a fine and a gross motor innervation.

06:48:10 mircea_popescu: as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control

06:49:09 mircea_popescu: (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control)

06:49:25 mircea_popescu: and as the rider becomes unable to exercise fine control, he becomes unable to maintain balance.

06:49:31 mircea_popescu: as errors compound.

06:53:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9645 @ 0.0006915 = 6.6695 BTC [+]

06:54:13 BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=3008 << "The cops do not want you to die?as that brings major heat. They just want to shoot you so that they can feel better about not winning any fights back in high school. Dude, your hoodrat carcass is a pain in the ass to everyone, except for your mamma, who just won the "hatched a got-shot hoodrat" lottery, and will be cashing in on your dumbass."

06:54:14 assbot: JL: The Ghetto at A Glance ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBIlBT )

06:55:39 mircea_popescu: it's not clear that an injured and disabled hoodrat is better.

06:56:54 BingoBoingo: At the present it is. As the Insurance to pay injured and disabled hoodrats bezzel depletes...

06:57:29 mircea_popescu: somewhat unrelatedly,

06:57:30 mircea_popescu: "On 23 August 1927, Sacco and Vanzetti were executed; in response, a 24-hour general strike was proclaimed in Buenos Aires, as well as many other capitals of the world. Several days after the executions, Di Giovanni received a letter from Sacco's widow, which thanked him for his work, and informing him that the director of the tobacco firm Combinados had proposed her a contract to produce a cigarette brand named "Sacco

06:57:30 mircea_popescu: & Vanzetti". On 26 November 1927, Di Giovanni and his comrades duly bombed Bernardo Gurevich's tobacco shop Combinados on Rivadavia 2279."

06:59:31 BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> (whosoever fucked a woman properly could readily verify this by laying on back and trying to slowly move knees up. the jerky motion is due to lack of fine control) << Glycogen and ATP depletion. The nerves fire, but the only muscle movements possible are less precise.

06:59:45 BingoBoingo: Leading too <mircea_popescu> as the muscle grows tired it becomes unresponsive to fine control

07:00:07 mircea_popescu: and na/k imbalance and a bunch of other chemical issues yes.

07:00:27 punkman: do the argentines still celebrate Sacco and Vanzetti?

07:00:50 mircea_popescu: i doubt there's any argentine under 60 that has any fucking idea wtf brand of sardines that was.

07:01:09 BingoBoingo: na/k imbalance less of an issue unless sweating and the sweat is being separated from the skin.

07:01:14 mircea_popescu: "old school" hipsterism is being a communist nowadays.

07:02:19 BingoBoingo: Peak reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/

07:02:21 assbot: reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBJ5a1 )

07:04:54 mircea_popescu: also http://40.media.tumblr.com/9a816f4ccf8ffb2841fcca3a19df351d/tumblr_nq3fla6Mi81s9e2ofo1_1280.jpg

07:04:54 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxdPUB )

07:10:19 BingoBoingo: "Why was there poop in your shower ?"

07:10:44 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 28400 @ 0.00068337 = 19.4077 BTC [-] {3}

07:13:16 BingoBoingo: Also... Tesla Motors just unveiled a hatchback...

07:14:07 BingoBoingo: And at 5,400 pounds it outweighs a lot of trucks...

07:14:54 BingoBoingo: It's an electric fucking vehicle with a 550 watt stereo

07:16:53 mircea_popescu: this nonsense of "we wanna be more energy efificent so we're dragging tons of worthless electricity storage around" is getting ever more ridiculous.

07:17:24 BingoBoingo: Seriously might as well have a car with an RTG

07:17:37 mircea_popescu: "why carry two barrels of gasoline around worth 10 mega-fucking-joules

07:17:54 mircea_popescu: when you could achieve the same effect with two and a half tons worth of lithium poison

07:18:41 BingoBoingo: Range is still only 250 miles, but prolly less if you turn up that stereo

07:19:10 punkman: maybe the stereo runs on gasoline

07:19:28 BingoBoingo: They promise though that if it rolls over "It will land on its feet" because... batteries go under drivers ass and the car's body

07:19:48 mircea_popescu: ahahahaha punkman wins all of the bashes.

07:19:54 mircea_popescu: !b 10

07:19:55 assbot: Last 10 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0KRRD1D.txt )

07:20:24 mircea_popescu: incidentally, i wonder how many actually remember the important role of the bash function in the development of later crucial bits of infrastructure.

07:20:31 BingoBoingo: On the one plus though it seems that HAD to bring back body on frame construction... I mean seriously... No way they would do something like this as a unibody...

07:20:44 mircea_popescu: it's altogether unclear to me how long we'd have taken to figure out the dpaste deedbot- mechanism if there wasn't this dpaste thing for bashes

07:23:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00068223 = 12.6213 BTC [-]

07:25:21 BingoBoingo: Prolly 2017

07:26:12 HeySteve: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY

07:26:13 assbot: dpaste: 3J8V5NY: stevekey, by steve ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgvSe )

07:26:13 deedbot-: Bad URL or network outage.

07:27:35 HeySteve: deedbot- http://dpaste.com/3J8V5NY.txt

07:27:36 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxgGNk )

07:27:37 deedbot-: imported: 5082594B795298BD62A00F4CAA5C799D12DAF5C6

07:28:20 BingoBoingo: Seriously though tubular titanium frame (carbon fiber shatters and no weight budget for containment, acrylic windshield, 100lb RTG, motor, plastic seat, passenger weight limit. Electricity generated at rest goes into home mains or rave lights. Top speed 25 mph.

07:28:44 BingoBoingo: Achieve top speed by going downhill.

07:28:57 mircea_popescu: top speed 25mph ?!

07:31:05 BingoBoingo: Goind downhill, kicking the ground Flinstones style occasionaly

07:31:10 BingoBoingo: http://qntra.net/2015/09/windows-truecrypt-fatally-flawed/#comment-62477

07:31:11 assbot: Windows TrueCrypt Fatally Flawed | Qntra ... ( http://bit.ly/1JBM7uU )

07:31:22 BingoBoingo: Very big hill required

07:32:44 punkman: and then you tow it back up the hill with a VW?

07:33:28 BingoBoingo: Nah uphill you go 1/2 mhp, or push it up like a self propelled lawn mower.

07:34:29 mircea_popescu: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e9/Bundesarchiv_Bild_146-1981-149-34A%2C_Russland%2C_Herausziehen_eines_Autos.jpg <<< usg dept of human disservices THIS CLOSE to catching up to third reich technologees.

07:34:30 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxhCRV )

07:34:55 BingoBoingo: On the plus side brag that you've had to buy tires more often than you've had to refuel

07:36:57 mircea_popescu: not so unlike bragging that you buy way more tissues than condoms.

07:37:56 BingoBoingo: More the opposites. Condoms cost more than tissues per load expended.

07:38:26 BingoBoingo: Plutonium-238 is expensive.

07:38:55 mircea_popescu: hm

07:40:24 HeySteve: BingoBoingo just agree to build a bomb for some Iranians, take their Plutonium and give them back a shell full of used pinball parts

07:40:38 BingoBoingo: Then again Government Motors sells new Chevy Suburbans for the price of a modest Suburban house because cognitively paying that much for huge vehicle is cognitively less expensive than recognizing one let themselves get huge and doing something about it.

07:41:07 mircea_popescu: I watcher her eat a whole appetizer at a mexican restaurant along with an entree dish and a combo platter as her side. <<< ftr /me does this all the fucking time.

07:41:13 BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Wrong isotope. That's plutonium 239. Absolute shit for an RTG, doesn't get hot enough.

07:41:25 mircea_popescu: there are people still walking around who watched me eat TWO full steaks for breakfast in alabama.

07:41:41 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: You fuck the energy out though, and... walk places...

07:41:49 mircea_popescu: black mamie-type waitress could not fucking believe the skinny white boy finished the first one, it was the size of her bosom.

07:42:15 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i guess that does it huh

07:42:55 BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: I mean you have to figure the average reddit-mate gets a parking placard for their Autism and never has to walk more than 40 ft at a time again.

07:43:09 mircea_popescu: you should have seen the fucking disbelief on this middle aged woman i asked for directions yest. she was "you gotta take the colectivo, that's like... very far. it's unthinkably far. it's like... at least 50 blocks".

07:43:19 BingoBoingo: lol

07:43:20 mircea_popescu: wtf woman, so you walk for a coupla hours. what of it.

07:43:33 mircea_popescu: splendid weather in ba too, like 20 degrees, pleasant sun down here.

07:44:18 mircea_popescu: anyway, the city blocks here are reasonably scammy, there's like 10, even 20 to a mile.

07:44:31 BingoBoingo: Last night it was drizzling yet pleasant temperature so went to take a short walk. half a kilometer out started raining hard by no wind or lightening so figured I'd enjoy the sidewalks to myself.

07:45:13 BingoBoingo: Fuck even in small town here only fit 4-8 blocks to the mile.

07:45:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12100 @ 0.00068223 = 8.255 BTC [-]

07:46:04 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, in the 4 blocks to the mile world her disbelief'd be a lot more at home, but ba is way denser than that.

07:46:53 mircea_popescu: in fact i did cover the distance (naon 3500 to corrientes ~7k) in about an hour give or take.

07:48:42 mircea_popescu: "When she's done I take her back to my place and initiate foreplay because I have to fucking get swabs if I want optimal prophylactic medical treatment for my dick area."

07:48:50 mircea_popescu: dude is fucking obnoxious srsly.

07:48:59 mircea_popescu: he actually expects sympathy for that pile of nonsense ?

07:49:06 BingoBoingo: Seriously, like peak fucking reddit narcisism.

07:49:12 BingoBoingo: ANd yet check those comments.

07:49:24 mircea_popescu: myeah. apparently dad never told him you're supposed to be charitable with women on the first date ?

07:49:34 BingoBoingo: Reddit/Murica/Democracy is broken.

07:49:59 mircea_popescu: "The smell was far worse mostly sober, but through a lot of "hand"iwork I was able to get three months of doxycycline and bactrim along with fluconazole and a single dose of some weird IV shit and an ointment. "

07:50:14 mircea_popescu: srsly ?!

07:50:43 mircea_popescu: THREE MONTHS of doxycycline ? AS A PROPHYLACTIC ?

07:50:51 mircea_popescu: for something that can't even happen ?

07:50:57 BingoBoingo: Almost seems like a troll post to see how... Retarded Retardid is...

07:51:08 mircea_popescu: i would hope so.

07:51:21 mircea_popescu: can you even take doxycycline for three months straight ?

07:51:56 BingoBoingo: Prolly, but... imagine c diff and worse would follow.

07:52:35 mircea_popescu: this is like...

07:52:49 mircea_popescu: tb courses are six weeks. pneumo courses are four weeks.

07:52:55 mircea_popescu: what the fuck is fourteen weeks for.

07:53:11 BingoBoingo: If that long. At that point they'd use another drug.

07:53:22 mircea_popescu: when sigounrey weaver fucked that alien she didn't get 14 weeks of medicine for it.

07:53:50 *: BingoBoingo confesses he posted the work of fiction to see how retarded reddit in general is

07:54:20 mircea_popescu: hahaha what ?

07:54:30 mircea_popescu: omfg stub nuts

07:54:35 mircea_popescu: dat was you ?

07:54:40 BingoBoingo: I put together all of their tropes into a horror story.

07:54:47 BingoBoingo: Yes you caught my shill account.

07:55:14 BingoBoingo: Because reddit is outside the Republic, needs fucked with.

07:55:18 mircea_popescu: dude who're you fooling. this was that pinoy mail order bride wasn't it.

07:55:48 BingoBoingo: Mebbe

07:55:54 mircea_popescu: lol

07:56:20 mircea_popescu: somehow this enhances the amusement.]

07:56:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18656 @ 0.00068175 = 12.7187 BTC [-] {3}

07:56:29 BingoBoingo: It's actually what I think about the Tesla Model X

07:56:45 mircea_popescu: "Bonus: The part where I was turned off by her weight turned her on. I have never felt more sexually vulnerable in my life than in the aftermath, thank god nothing was viral." <<< lolz.

07:57:49 BingoBoingo: Since it wouldn't be wort diluting qntra shares over a derpy hatchback I decided to try writing reddit soup.

07:57:53 mircea_popescu: "Being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness and disease." << this is actually true.

07:57:58 BingoBoingo: It is

07:58:02 mircea_popescu: being fat is a huge red flag for mental illness.

07:58:19 BingoBoingo: And other disease.

07:59:12 mircea_popescu: myeah, kinda hard to stay healthy if overweight.

07:59:48 mircea_popescu: https://www.reddit.com/r/fatpeoplestories/comments/3mxaaf/nsfwnsfltriggers_dated_by_a_ham_exploited_by_a/cvj1zfm

07:59:49 assbot: reddit.com: over 18? ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxkVbJ )

07:59:50 BingoBoingo: I mean even bidets don't have the pressure to get everything down there if one is shitting 'Murican sugah shits

07:59:58 mircea_popescu: ahahaha. somehow i know the answer to that question.

08:00:07 mircea_popescu: clearly b-a was integral to my well rounded practical education.

08:00:53 BingoBoingo: Gotta include known parts of their folklore

08:01:20 mircea_popescu: check it out, someone there knows the answer.

08:01:36 mircea_popescu: you know, i think we're watching a meme being born. some nutty reddit comment, probably ALSO from a fake acct,

08:01:40 mircea_popescu: now you kited it

08:01:57 mircea_popescu: and by next week it's gonna be "fat people are notorious for doing" something no fat person probably ever did before.

08:02:21 BingoBoingo: I wasn't the account with the answer. I started a fire, but not that fire.

08:03:19 mircea_popescu: yeah but...

08:04:10 BingoBoingo: I mean you gotta figure... If your shit is too sticky for a bidet... The shower offers greater pressure...

08:04:47 BingoBoingo: Then again hose showers aren't really a 'Murican thing

08:06:27 BingoBoingo: -mquin- [Global Notice] On or around Friday, October 2nd we will be cleaning up the services database. Now's a good time to ensure you identify to services when connecting. Check out http://blog.freenode.net/2015/09/services-database-purge/ << Prolly a good time for people with near perma-connected bouncers to login and log off because Freenode tracks last login time...

08:06:28 assbot: Services database purge | staffblog ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxlPVU )

08:08:36 BingoBoingo: And seriously. Is there such a thing as a REAL reddit account?

08:08:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8092 @ 0.00068077 = 5.5088 BTC [-]

08:08:48 BingoBoingo: At least after 2007 or so.

08:10:28 mircea_popescu: possibily not.

08:11:15 BingoBoingo: I don't see any Reddit accounts in deedbot

08:13:41 BingoBoingo: Also the original different purpose altchain has some bsns http://blog.namecoin.org/post/130158040415/onenames-blockstore-is-much-less-secure-than

08:13:43 assbot: Namecoin News & Developer Blog — OneName’s Blockstore is much less secure than... ... ( http://bit.ly/1jxmPcC )

08:14:23 HeySteve: about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose?

08:14:32 BingoBoingo: Namecoin's not exactly a critical piece of infrastructure but it seems to have been shitgnomed

08:14:52 BingoBoingo: <HeySteve> about deedbot, I don't quite get the hashing as privkey thing, what is the purpose? << To get spent from, it is the ultimate verification

08:18:48 *: BingoBoingo goes to bread hopes everyone was sufficiently triggered

08:30:36 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.

08:30:36 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:25:00; ascii_field: notice how the latest wave of 'OMG!!11!!1!!policebrutality!11!!1livezmatter!!11' began with... several states proclaiming intent to arrest federal law enforcers in some cases

08:34:05 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287944 << pretty cool actually.

08:34:05 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 20:54:00; phf: i added eatbulk to bitcoind that takes a folder with blk dat files and eats them in order, provisioning the node at the moment. pointless graphs time! http://glyf.org/tmp/height-time.png hours vs block height, http://glyf.org/tmp/height-delta.png block height vs delay from previous ACCEPTED

08:42:16 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1287999 << perhaps of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28723 and certainly of interest http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=13-10-2013#349854

08:42:16 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:27:08; jurov: ..aaand http://www.itworld.com/article/2987438/newly-found-truecrypt-flaw-allows-full-system-compromise.html

08:42:16 assbot: Logged on 14-05-2013 02:03:43; mircea_popescu: "I haven't nor will I ask for donations. This truly sucks for me, but I only want to find out how this happened. I wish I could see the code/method used for educational purposes. Fuck people who steal. I strive for bitcoins and litecoins to gain popularity among the masses and become an accepted currency in societies eyes."

08:42:16 assbot: Logged on 13-10-2013 20:20:24; mircea_popescu: without going into all the ways truecrypt is broken and etc, which i don't feel i have the energy for

08:42:33 mircea_popescu: or for that matter http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-05-2013#28814

08:42:33 assbot: Logged on 14-05-2013 02:25:44; mircea_popescu: my impression of the general truecrypt population is that they're not particularly more secure than average

08:46:45 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << incidentally, this happens to be the killer app for derpage a la "automated contracts" or whatever they call colored coins by now.

08:46:45 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/

08:46:59 mircea_popescu: course the 20 yo geniuses involved have nfi of anything so they don't know this either, but whatever.

08:51:11 mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288037 << what part of math is thereby contradicted ?

08:51:11 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 02:23:13; mike_c: bitbettors can't do math. if trump is 50/50, why is jeb 5:1 to win? https://bitbet.us/bet/1209/jeb-bush-will-be-republicans-2016-presidential-nominee/

08:51:30 *: BingoBoingo had a hypnagogic realization every good internet meme has started with a troll. Also prime numbers ending in 3 where 3 is not preceded by 2 are mauve.

08:51:37 BingoBoingo: back to bed

08:51:55 mircea_popescu: oh wait, 5:1 the other way lol

08:52:29 mircea_popescu: bet's new, prolly not covered yet.

08:58:10 mircea_popescu: also, http://36.media.tumblr.com/a609ac02f340aece2446717186a369ad/tumblr_nlbro03X7p1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg

08:58:12 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KR6Xs5 )

09:05:25 davout: mircea_popescu: tbf i'd probably advertise x.eur a bit more if i didn't have to wait days for x.eur holder statements

09:06:08 mircea_popescu: you never had to wait all that much once you asked for 'em!

09:06:55 mircea_popescu: i'm ... mefiant of too automated systems.

09:07:01 davout: the point is i really shouldn't have to ask

09:07:23 davout: i'm not saying it has to be automated

09:07:54 mircea_popescu: i can't in good conscience propose that the contract may be renewed when i've not even heard from you.

09:08:04 mircea_popescu: this may even be ridiculous, but it's still what i'm stuck with.

09:08:53 mircea_popescu: there must be a minimum of attention available. it is perhaps true that if you didn't even have to show up once a mnonth for it you'd have more attention available to promote the thing. it is an unpersuasive theory.

09:10:52 davout: nobody is proposing the contract should be renewed, the contract itself is here, stands and describes the instrument, that's how i read it

09:11:45 davout: "2.3. Settlement. Upon the Settlement Date, which shall be the 15th day of every month at noon GMT,"

09:11:58 davout: "(a) The Exchange will compile a list of all contract holders, identifying their registered GPG signatures and the number of contracts held, encrypt this list and forward it to the Market Maker."

09:13:04 mircea_popescu: you seriously propose that going "oh hai" once a month is too much service here ?

09:14:19 davout: is that what i'm proposing?

09:15:10 mircea_popescu: best i can tell.

09:17:19 mircea_popescu: for instance : last month, the stuff went unrenewed for about two weeks. two weeks during which you didn't complain about the matter. this, not because I didn't notice. i had noticed. i was actually getting ready to announce that the x.eur thing is discontinued.

09:17:46 mircea_popescu: the moral of that experience isn't to complain at me that you weren't around for a while. the moral of that experience is to be around. it is after all your flagship product as far as i can tell. treat it like it were.

09:18:37 mircea_popescu: and yes this includes scheduling your vacations, divorces and funerals around the 15th of the month. it's that important.

09:24:49 mircea_popescu: and since we're talking about things : http://www.newsbtc.com/2015/09/07/bitcoin-startup-paymium-raised-e1-million-in-seed-funding/ << this i read about in "newsbtc" ? because why ?

09:24:51 assbot: Bitcoin Startup Paymium Raised €1 Million in Seed Funding - NEWSBTC ... ( http://bit.ly/1KR8dLN )

09:27:34 davout: what i'm proposing is that the contract is pretty clear, and that me hanging around #b-a and keeping up with it, is important, but nonetheless absolutely orthogonal with it.

09:28:25 davout: if you want to make me requesting x.eur holders list a part of the process that's fine, we'll update the contract

09:29:18 mircea_popescu: i don't want anything specific. but i will be keeping track of a large ammount of tiny indicators, because anything else results in exam-taking-training.

09:30:25 mircea_popescu: so if you're wondering where the X is, as you should be wondering at any point after noon on the 15th, and it occurs to you we've prolly not heard anything from you in weeks, one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc, and one of the better solutions is to fix whatsoever fundamental problems that led to your misallocation of time towards reddit or w/e the fuck. because otherwise the rift this allows is bound to

09:30:26 mircea_popescu: grow, and eventually tear things apart.

09:30:40 mircea_popescu: maybe i got special mental needs or something, but to me all this seems obvious.

09:32:04 mircea_popescu: and i still dunno why if im friends with the cto of some company i gotta read from random spamsite about financing events at some company.

09:32:30 mircea_popescu: i can't even follow how or why this seemed like a good idea.

09:38:56 davout: thought i had talked about it in-chan, guess i didn't

09:40:51 mircea_popescu: i love you but dun go tramplin' on my feelin's!!!

09:46:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22200 @ 0.000685 = 15.207 BTC [+]

09:50:13 mircea_popescu: re the entire "shower pooping" thing, http://biznology.com/2012/02/how-paul-m-barrett-won-over-message-boards/

09:50:14 assbot: Attention Required! | CloudFlare ... ( http://bit.ly/1OFMj40 )

09:52:23 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 11607 @ 0.00068077 = 7.9017 BTC [-]

09:57:01 davout: mircea_popescu: "one of the simplest solutions is to fix it ad hoc" <<< precisely what's been happening

09:57:35 mircea_popescu: aha

10:35:54 punkman: http://dpaste.com/1YTZT28 heh

10:35:55 assbot: dpaste: 1YTZT28 ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRewxS )

10:49:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 10520 @ 0.000685 = 7.2062 BTC [+]

11:12:15 deedbot-: [fraudsters] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://fraudsters.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/

11:51:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 52500 @ 0.00068469 = 35.9462 BTC [-] {2}

11:54:10 jurov: davout rly? i had to wait 2 weeks for my x.eur delivery because yoou were.. pouting?

12:00:29 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4950 @ 0.000685 = 3.3908 BTC [+]

12:08:06 davout: jurov: pouting?

12:08:37 jurov: why else did you wait?

12:09:26 jurov: i have to ask mircea for stuff too... but it's 3-4 days max

12:10:06 davout: what do you mean?

12:11:35 jurov: he does not process mpex deposits or withdrawals automatically, must be asked to often

12:11:50 jurov: i ask after 3-4 days max

12:12:06 jurov: and can't understand why would you wait 2 weeks

12:12:16 davout: never waited two weeks

12:13:31 jurov: so what happened? you asked, but he did ntohing?

12:14:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13704 @ 0.000685 = 9.3872 BTC [+]

12:14:52 davout: i asked for september's settlement holders list on sept 21, and I got it shortly afterwards, and you were delivered shortly after that

12:16:25 jurov: oh.. nevermind

12:17:20 davout: that i have to ask, despite the contract clearly saying the exact opposite is something that is apparently obvious to everyone but me

12:18:10 davout: in direct contradiction of 4.1 of said contract, btw

12:20:12 davout: anyway, the fact that deliveries actually occur in much less than two weeks(tm) is what ultimately matters to me

12:20:46 jurov: i think mp was talking about 2.4 d .. that "tacit agreement" means you being around and alive

12:22:36 davout: i read "tacit" as "not requiring being explicit about it" not much more

12:24:20 jurov: time to clarify, i guess

12:25:12 davout: to me, the "davout is dead or unresponsive" case is covered by the "market maker's deposit"-related parts

12:25:54 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3850 @ 0.00068113 = 2.6224 BTC [-]

12:27:15 davout: jurov: i think everyone's thoughts are pretty clear now

13:06:40 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287990 <-- it is a bit odd to focus on planned parenthood and not the nazi connection dontcha think?

13:06:40 assbot: Logged on 29-09-2015 23:42:10; BingoBoingo: http://m.snopes.com/prescott-bush-planned-parenthood/

13:06:59 funkenstein_: and damn that ICD-10 or whatever AMA idiocy you linked BingoBoingo was an eye opener. Official policy appears to be that top level doctors and surgeons are to be treated like morons.

13:07:17 funkenstein_: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288078 <-- sure I'll bite, why not? :)

13:07:17 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:10:24; mircea_popescu: red indian tribes in new england might have had it independently, but unfortunately the society was woman-centric and so it tripped all over itself and died before we could give a shit.

13:07:52 funkenstein_: like, what would that even mean, "women-centric"? Perhaps that as a man you would move in at your mother-in-law's place and take their name.

13:08:06 funkenstein_: An arrangement that doesn't sound too bad to me, having a house given to you as well as babysitters and cooks

13:09:17 funkenstein_: meanwhile chiefs, warriors, politicos, doctors - still were most always male gender

13:10:24 funkenstein_: houses being passed on to the daughters is the main reason anthropologist use the word "matriarchy"

13:10:34 funkenstein_: anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best

13:11:10 funkenstein_: people don't have to give a shit, nor crack a book. but then bringing it up as if they did give a shit doesn't seem productive does it?

13:11:49 funkenstein_: today i saw "alf" written in small fluorescent green letters on the side of greek orthodox church

13:12:15 funkenstein_: mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial!

13:13:41 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8900 @ 0.000685 = 6.0965 BTC [+]

13:14:16 mircea_popescu: <funkenstein_> anyway the idea that any of this would have an affect on whether your kids were slaughtered by retarded orcs is oblique at best << not obligue at all. see "common decency" comments.

13:15:17 mircea_popescu: but in other news, http://40.media.tumblr.com/804babab76943f2c67c56ee16a7c3479/tumblr_nvcu52Qpk81tsn8x4o1_1280.jpg

13:15:17 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1KRzEnZ )

13:16:20 mircea_popescu: and ftr, what i mean by "women-centric" is that the sorts of concerns of women (pain avoidance) are priviledged as societal goals. this is both harmful to society's prospects of survival as it is harmful to ALL individual members, overall, of both sexes.

13:26:19 funkenstein_: aha, perhaps something like a "the world is a loving mother and will take care of you" attitude?

13:28:08 funkenstein_: doesn't always work out that way does it

13:30:42 funkenstein_: I loled at butthurt Wagner :)

13:31:53 funkenstein_: i heard his father, on his deathbed, said something like "do you think [Wilhelm] has any musical talent?"

13:33:25 funkenstein_: off to the mines..

13:56:56 mod6: <+funkenstein_> mod6, thanks for the updated tutorial! << yw

13:58:27 punkman: mod6, can haz graph with the 3 patches I sent to ml? curious how that'd look

14:02:42 mod6: I might be able to throw that together. my version should be out for testing in the next week or so though if you just wanna wait. it'll build the whole graph for you with wild patches.

14:03:13 mod6: i'm trying to wrap up all these automated cucumber tests & loose ends on some stuff.

14:07:20 mod6: at this point, what it'll do is build a whole graphviz dotfile and output that to stdout or a file. the only part that it wont do (because you have to install `dot' separately) is for example: `dot -Tsvg <dotfile> > graph.html`

14:08:13 mod6: i guess i could add a method that'll check if dot is installed, and if it is, then will generate the svg html file for you... but *shrug*

14:08:17 mod6: like i said, loose ends :]

14:08:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18509 @ 0.0006809 = 12.6028 BTC [-] {4}

14:16:59 mod6: oh and also, your vpatches won't be added until after the release... so the graph will look a bit different with your 3 vpatches.

14:17:48 mod6: like alf and I were discussing last week - we're going to create a release vpatch that will take all leaf edges and tie them up with a new release vertex.

14:18:01 mod6: then yours will be added after that.

14:18:57 punkman: mod6, release patch means every other patch you had not in release breaks though

14:20:02 punkman: I don't see why it's better than release being a manifest with a patch sequence

14:20:47 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.000685 = 11.1655 BTC [+]

14:23:37 mircea_popescu: o hey, redditard crowd finally catching up to 2013ish mpoe-pr, discovering btcjam is a scam ?

14:23:47 mircea_popescu: this can actually only be good for bitcoin

14:25:01 *: lobbes used to work with a guy that would come into office everyday talking about his btcjam 'investors club'; couldn't talk sense into the guy

14:25:19 mircea_popescu: heh.

14:25:24 mircea_popescu: you know that ballas bit right ?

14:25:44 lobbes: I do not, no

14:25:47 thestringpuller: I'm amazed BTCJam has survived so long.

14:26:05 thestringpuller: There is a reason no one plays banker anymore.

14:26:28 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/the-psychology-of-the-bagholder/#selection-39.0-39.209

14:26:29 assbot: The psychology of the bagholder on fraudsters - A blog by Mircea Popescu. ... ( http://bit.ly/1LP1RAY )

14:26:33 mircea_popescu: "The mistake is in thinking this has anything to do with the money. It's said that most at home traders fail, but this is incorrect: they fail at making money, but they are successful at feeling like a trader."

14:27:01 lobbes: ahh yes. This rings a bell

14:27:42 lobbes: that is essentially spot on to his MO. You could tell it was an 'emotional high' for the dude

14:28:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 30850 @ 0.00068009 = 20.9808 BTC [-] {5}

14:40:17 mircea_popescu: aha

14:51:53 mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".

14:52:11 mod6: I have a screenshot I've put up for you to see: http://thebitcoin.foundation/misc/release-vpatch-wDebugSanity.png

14:52:12 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Rg0Ku4 )

14:55:44 mircea_popescu: also, literature! http://31.media.tumblr.com/c891b3322ce2ebbd2511f7b5d1ce4c9b/tumblr_nvctwjg8Uw1tsn8x4o1_500.gif

14:55:45 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1YOCGUh )

14:59:14 deedbot-: [fraudsters] ¿No se puede? Ba pe-a ma-tii. - http://fraudsters.com/2015/%c2%bfno-se-puede-ba-pe-a-ma-tii/

15:02:39 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

15:03:07 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288440 << this is not a bug. it is correct behaviour.

15:03:07 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 14:51:53; mod6: So, if I make a test-release.vpatch to tie up the leafs for what we have in "v0.5.4-TEST2" or what we're calling "v0.5.4" then it ties up "asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option.vpatch" and "asciilifeform_maxint_locks_corrected.vpatch". If your patches are added after that, they become leafs along with the "test-release.vpatch".

15:04:05 ascii_field: it breaks the 'come to expect' of some folks, likely. but it ~correctly~ displays flow.

15:06:02 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288304 << aha. so far only a few pesthole states, and even in these, strictly ceremonial gesture

15:06:02 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 08:30:36; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287904 << except maryland wasn't one of them.

15:06:23 mircea_popescu: but the thing you referenced was specifically maryland ?

15:06:49 mircea_popescu: you can't propose x theory is exemplified by y trend when the core of y is different from the elements of x.

15:08:06 ascii_field: i was speaking of overall neg-pr campaign against municipal police in all if usa

15:08:14 ascii_field: *of usa

15:08:54 mircea_popescu: but blacklivesmatter is a maryland thing, and the "arrest usg twerps" is a "other states than maryland" thing.

15:09:01 ascii_field: mno

15:09:08 ascii_field: usa-wide thing

15:09:16 mircea_popescu: usa is not a thing.

15:09:25 ascii_field: ferguson, for instance, is not in md.

15:09:31 thestringpuller: "The FEDS are your friends."

15:09:35 mircea_popescu: which usa for that matter ? cali-usa ? washdc-usa ?

15:09:52 ascii_field: black usa?

15:10:10 mircea_popescu: black usa is pretty much georgia

15:10:54 mircea_popescu: [centered on]

15:11:28 thestringpuller: What?!?

15:11:38 ascii_field: btw when usa folk think 'black', generally this means urbanscartissuefolk

15:11:41 mircea_popescu: iirc, the entire "arrest feds" thing was arizona -nm-texas.

15:11:58 ascii_field: it was. but usg cauterized the wound

15:12:01 mircea_popescu: meanwhile in related lolz : http://thefreethoughtproject.com/pot-legal-d-c-congressman-threatens-send-city-officials-prison/

15:12:02 assbot: Feds Threaten D.C. Officials with Prison If they Go Through with Pot Legalization on Thursday | The Free Thought Project ... ( http://bit.ly/1YOEwo7 )

15:12:07 thestringpuller: How is black USA pretty much Georgia?

15:13:03 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller well what is it ?

15:13:14 mircea_popescu: it's not north dakota is it ?

15:14:09 ascii_field: but it is la and baltimore and dc

15:14:27 ascii_field: wherever there is 'concrete jungle'

15:14:36 mircea_popescu: i dunno.

15:14:56 mircea_popescu: the notion that blacks matter in la... get off it. it's all hispanics.

15:15:24 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i feel like there is southern black people here, but Georgia is mainly rednecks.

15:15:24 ascii_field: they matter in the sense of keeping poor whites out ?

15:15:45 mircea_popescu: dude were you even in la ?

15:15:59 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller it is ?

15:16:35 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: Atlanta has a lot of black folk. But Georgia as a whole is mainly rednecks.

15:16:40 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller afaik (mebbe out of date) georgia has the largest black population of the union

15:16:47 thestringpuller: The suburbs of Atlanta are mainly white people factory.

15:17:02 mircea_popescu: it not being a terribly populous state, this makes the percent markedly higher than say ny or la

15:17:22 mircea_popescu: like 30% or some shit

15:17:53 mircea_popescu: doubt anything else is even over 20. maybe mississippi

15:18:01 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288115 << he lost his head at the cia's pleasure

15:18:01 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:49:18; mircea_popescu: scarcely 50 years have passed since the last executed president.

15:18:04 thestringpuller: yea it's number 3 but there are more in surrounding states like missipi and LA (the state)

15:18:19 thestringpuller: in percent of population

15:18:34 mircea_popescu: a ok

15:18:36 thestringpuller: but yea I guess it is #1 in the union for black people

15:18:46 thestringpuller: with a whopping 3million negros!

15:18:58 thestringpuller: New York is in close 2nd

15:19:00 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it is never about the pop % ! it is about cities

15:19:18 thestringpuller: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population << Has a list for reference based on census.

15:19:30 mircea_popescu: eh it's about telling stories. how the heck wouldja infer that "at cia's pleasure" either.

15:19:43 mircea_popescu: dude check that out.

15:19:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24300 @ 0.00067979 = 16.5189 BTC [-]

15:19:53 *: mircea_popescu pats himself on back for his cia factbook quality

15:19:54 ascii_field: the real estate racket conscripted these folks to make prime city areas uninhabitable

15:20:30 mircea_popescu: ascii_field that aside, your theory was that the entire black lives matter narrative is somehow "at cia's pleasure" and for the purpose of countering the "arrest feds" movement.

15:20:37 ascii_field: nono

15:20:39 mircea_popescu: neither of these two stands.

15:20:47 ascii_field: death of jfk

15:20:48 mircea_popescu: well then ?

15:20:53 ascii_field: other thread

15:21:08 thestringpuller: black people cared more about the death of MLK than JFK...

15:21:12 mircea_popescu: i conflated because it seems to me you're generally just post-dating any event that happened to "cia's will"

15:21:15 mircea_popescu: meta-nsa, whatever.

15:21:57 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller if you think about it, 3 mn is not really all that much.

15:21:57 ascii_field: cia per se only re: jfk

15:22:18 mircea_popescu: i'm unpersuaded.

15:22:24 mircea_popescu: some obscure cell seems much more probable.

15:22:30 ascii_field: brb

15:24:56 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

15:25:34 ascii_field: recommended, 'death and life of great american cities' (jacobs)

15:26:34 ascii_field: short version, proto-usg squeezed out poor white catholics, who were slow to 'get with the program', from urban centers, with 'population replacement' gambit where 'housing projects' were built and filled with lumpens

15:27:31 mircea_popescu: i am unpersuaded by that, either.

15:28:01 mircea_popescu: what remains here is : a) that the usg is very vulnerable, has always been, and far from a "you can do nothing to us" a top guy is killed every few decades, and the lower agents get popped daily.

15:28:09 mircea_popescu: in fact it's safer to be a criminal than a usg agent.

15:28:17 ascii_field: fact is, poor whites are virtually absent from urban centers. whether martians removed them, or something else, can be debated. the demographics - not so much

15:28:37 mircea_popescu: and b) that there's scant relation between the raping of the usg in the states as per the marijuana thing ands the raping of the usg in other states as per the blacks thing

15:28:46 ascii_field: !s lon horiuchi

15:28:47 assbot: 5 results for 'lon horiuchi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=lon+horiuchi

15:28:55 ascii_field: ^ among the most hated men alive, but in great health!

15:29:04 mircea_popescu: this is like observing that beggars are absent from the countryside.

15:29:12 mircea_popescu: of course they are. they go to the subway entrances.

15:30:24 ascii_field: re: the dope wars: wake me up when dea agents are packed off to jails for enforcing their laws, and convoyed by state national guard if need be

15:30:52 ascii_field: (will be mega-interesting in d.c., as it has no national guard proper afaik)

15:31:01 mircea_popescu: aha.

15:31:09 mircea_popescu: im sure it can call out for volunteers :D

15:31:22 mircea_popescu: (something along these lines is the reasonable expectation re the breakup.

15:31:33 mircea_popescu: ru will certainly send 100k people if there's a way.)

15:31:46 ascii_field: perhaps it will invent teleporter.

15:31:57 mircea_popescu: what, like the 50mn illegals did ?

15:32:14 ascii_field: those are here at the pleasure of lizard cathedral.

15:32:58 mircea_popescu: nonsense.

15:33:11 mircea_popescu: they are there at the raping of the lizard cathedral.

15:33:16 mircea_popescu: just like the russian volunteers would be.

15:33:31 ascii_field: they do 90% of the physical labour.

15:33:44 mircea_popescu: and the volunteers would do 90% of the shooting

15:33:50 mircea_popescu: and the rotterham pakis did 90% of the teen fucking

15:33:52 mircea_popescu: so what of it.

15:33:52 ascii_field: including the hard work of properly terrorizing whites to keep real estate expensive

15:34:05 ascii_field: ~precisely~ same purpose, aha

15:34:19 mircea_popescu: there is no purpose to human affairs.

15:34:36 ascii_field: we are looking at a crafted system, no less than so than a pentium

15:34:48 ascii_field: not a naturally-occurring sludge pool

15:34:55 ascii_field: there is sludge being pumped, yes

15:35:04 ascii_field: but through pipes, put there with purpose.

15:36:25 mircea_popescu: we are not.

15:36:42 ascii_field: usa is a 'divide and conquer' affair from the very start.

15:37:01 ascii_field: when slaves were set against the 'indentured men'

15:37:51 mircea_popescu: this is too reductive to be usable.

15:38:04 mircea_popescu: for one thing "usa" did not exist from the very start.

15:38:15 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: for my enlightenment, formulate example of 'usable' hypothesis here ?

15:38:37 mircea_popescu: "usa" was the brand name a few disparate centers of population and of a few slightly more coherent centers of production used for a brief interval between two european wars.

15:38:41 *: ascii_field is taking 'very start' to refer, as it conventionally did, to the english colonies of 17th and 18th c.

15:38:43 mircea_popescu: it has no more substance to it than "revlon"

15:39:00 ascii_field: shorthand for 'the lands which became modern usa'

15:39:08 mircea_popescu: there is no contemporary usa.

15:39:23 mircea_popescu: there WAS, briefly, a thing called usa. it started cca 1905 and ended cca 1960

15:39:33 mircea_popescu: as the outermost extensions

15:42:03 mircea_popescu: it was replaced by "the us", but much in the way things changed from the pre-brejnev soviets to the post, it is now a label to distance oneself from.

15:42:18 mircea_popescu: nobody seriously professed a hatred of the usa, or professes a love of the us.

15:42:43 ascii_field: nobody ?

15:42:58 mircea_popescu: pushing a point, but no, even the teeth clenching arabs were in love with the usa.

15:43:11 ascii_field: i suppose this is a technical, mircea_popescuing sense of 'nobody', where million half-imbecile schoolchildren singing the anthem don't count as 'body

15:44:12 mircea_popescu: iirc this is no longer a thing.

15:44:15 mircea_popescu: and hasn't been for years.

15:44:17 ascii_field: sure it is

15:44:34 ascii_field: or, it was, when i was a schoolboy

15:44:41 ascii_field: 20y ago.

15:45:27 mircea_popescu: "According to a 2004 Harris Interactive survey, nearly two out of three Americans (61 percent) are unable to recall all of the words to The Star-Spangled Banner"

15:45:29 mircea_popescu: gimme a break ?

15:46:03 thestringpuller: O' Say does that star spangled banner yet waaaaaave!

15:46:04 ascii_field: but they can whistle it !

15:46:11 ascii_field: this is a passing mark in this day and age.

15:46:30 mircea_popescu: methinks the perch you stand on is awash.

15:46:31 thestringpuller: damn I'm one those 61%

15:46:51 thestringpuller: i totally don't know the national anthem

15:47:03 *: ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian

15:47:18 mircea_popescu: mmkay.

15:47:36 *: mircea_popescu even vaguely remembers the rsr anthem, notwithstanding that we DIDNT actually have to do it in school.

15:47:49 ascii_field: союз нерушимый республик свободных......

15:48:16 mircea_popescu: btw, it's a pretty shitty anthem i always thought.

15:48:22 mircea_popescu: musically speaking.

15:48:38 mircea_popescu: i mean these ppl do not understand wtf an anthem's supposed to be or what is this toothpaste.

15:48:42 ascii_field: i for one find it to be the only musically bearable one i've ever heard !

15:48:47 mircea_popescu: srsly ?

15:48:50 ascii_field: i suppose 'different stokes for different folkz'

15:48:53 *: mircea_popescu is partial to german marches.

15:49:04 mircea_popescu: now THAT makles a good anthem.

15:49:09 ascii_field: fredericus rex !

15:49:25 mircea_popescu: for instance. but there's dozens of perfectly passible ones

15:49:34 mircea_popescu: even their current one (wacth am rhein iirc ?) is good.

15:50:31 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288003 << beaten to a pulp in ancient logz...

15:50:31 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 00:39:53; jurov: http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonkblog/wp/2015/09/28/this-sleazy-and-totally-illegal-savings-scheme-may-be-the-future-of-retirement/

15:50:33 ascii_field: !s tontine

15:50:34 assbot: 9 results for 'tontine' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=tontine

15:50:42 mircea_popescu: aha.

15:51:46 ascii_field: esp. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=04-02-2014#476686

15:51:46 assbot: Logged on 04-02-2014 00:55:48; asciilifeform: a 'kinder, gentler' tontine, where you don't have to plug your rivals, just help them forget to check their mail

15:53:25 jurov: we are nearing the inevitable stage when everything will be in logs already

15:53:41 mircea_popescu: marking a complete torah.

15:53:48 ascii_field: talmud

15:54:04 mircea_popescu: right.

15:54:14 jurov: no, talmud is therealbitcoin mailing list

15:54:20 mircea_popescu: btw, since all the cia talk necessarily leads one to thinking of waco :

15:54:26 mircea_popescu: anyone familiar with the antics of the victims there ?

15:54:31 ascii_field: aha

15:54:38 mircea_popescu: like, for instance, the one time that dude vying for power with some other dude DUG UP A CASKET

15:54:48 mircea_popescu: and challenged his opponent to a RESURECTION CONTEST ?

15:54:58 mircea_popescu: like you know, wager of combat ^ -e

15:55:35 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

15:57:12 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: it was the very textbook example of usg powershow modus operandi - pick on the borderline retarded, preferably ones who practice voodoo to a degree repugnant to the tvtronic public

15:57:48 ascii_field: polygamy busts were (are?) also popular for this reason

15:57:55 ascii_field: (bonus element of envy !)

15:58:20 mircea_popescu: oh right. how about the time when "it was decided" only the one schmuck can fuck, and the husbands of the women involved are to be liek you know, celibate now.

15:58:38 ascii_field: cult sop ?

15:59:25 mircea_popescu: i dunno about that.

15:59:32 mircea_popescu: more like, "small island tribal chieftain" sop.

15:59:44 mircea_popescu: which i guess describes the us as well as it describes polynesia, sure.

15:59:55 ascii_field: described the voodoo enclaves, no ?

16:00:37 mircea_popescu: i dunno that this nonsense sexual stellarity is all that common in practice.

16:00:50 ascii_field: these were nucleation points for 'militia movement' in the '90s, which was, afaik, five parts usg provocateurship to one part genuine, if imbecilic, organized rebellion - which had to be nuked

16:01:08 ascii_field: and so it was.

16:02:32 mircea_popescu: i do not for a moment believe the ridiculous antics of nutty neoprotestant biggots in rural texas are a nucleation for anything.

16:02:40 mircea_popescu: including a syphilis outbreak.

16:03:10 ascii_field: they were ~to usg~

16:03:19 ascii_field: we are discussing psychiatric picture, not reality as such

16:05:33 mircea_popescu: you are attempting psychiatry on an undefined, noncorporeal entity ?

16:20:47 mircea_popescu: "After the ceasefire, the Branch Davidians allowed the ATF dead and wounded to be evacuated and held their fire during the ATF retreat."

16:21:04 mircea_popescu: the funny thing is, that the "marginally retarded" (which they were) had the usg agents so badly beaten it was fucking ridiculous.

16:21:45 mircea_popescu: in fact anyone even survived to tell the story because these derps allowed it. could just as well have executed the entire bunch.

16:21:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6100 @ 0.00067979 = 4.1467 BTC [-]

16:26:10 mircea_popescu: hey mike_c diana_coman is looking for noob miners

16:26:40 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:26:56 mike_c: yeah.. my available gaming time is down to nil right now. Busy working on a sekrit project.

16:27:13 mike_c: it will be.. amazing.

16:27:13 assbot: AMAZING COMPANY!

16:27:17 mike_c: ty assbot.

16:28:03 mircea_popescu: o ? cool

16:29:32 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: if they had massacred the fbi troops, the likely response (according to some sources, it was already in the works at the time) was aerial bombardment until nothing moves

16:29:40 mircea_popescu: so ?

16:29:45 mircea_popescu: im sure they deeply cared.

16:29:48 ascii_field: so apparently they cared ?

16:29:52 ascii_field: or else why the ceasefire

16:29:57 mircea_popescu: dude spare me the bullshit bluffs.

16:30:12 mircea_popescu: the likely response would have been exactly what argentina response is in similar to scale incidents

16:30:19 mircea_popescu: run away screaming and pretend nothing ever happened.

16:30:20 mircea_popescu: wtf.

16:30:32 mircea_popescu: what happened when they got anally raped at tikrit ?

16:31:04 mircea_popescu: "areal bombardment until nothing is ever mentioned again in the agitprop press"

16:31:09 ascii_field: and when the now-appearently-sovereign little enclave starts minting methcoin, polygamically rogering nomenklature daughters, and sheltering assassins ?

16:31:40 mike_c: bombardment like bombs? seems unlikely they would drop bombs in texas.

16:32:03 ascii_field: mike_c: ever consider what national guard is for ?

16:32:13 ascii_field: and why it is equipped with bombs (it is)

16:32:17 mike_c: so this would have been first time ever?

16:32:27 mike_c: national guard is for sending to iraq when they run out of regulars

16:32:27 ascii_field: 1st since cw1

16:32:48 ascii_field: this would, logically, be cw2.

16:33:06 mircea_popescu: mike_c it's out of the question.

16:33:11 mike_c: well, cw1 didn't have bombs

16:33:18 mike_c: not aerial ones at least

16:33:26 ascii_field: cw1 had artillery.

16:34:38 mircea_popescu: if you're thinking an ailing, falling under its own weight bureaucracy - not even this one in particular, any one - is actually brimming with the virility of youth and ready to escalate until nothing's left you're seriously from a different movie.

16:34:54 mircea_popescu: old men put all their all into their first scream because that's all they got.

16:35:02 mircea_popescu: you scream louder and that's the end of the fucking story.

16:35:19 ascii_field: that bus mats rode in was full of emasculated old men ?

16:35:36 mircea_popescu: pretty much.

16:35:54 *: ascii_field was not able to learn this with naked eye

16:36:32 mircea_popescu: in any case, i have had opportunity to try this in the field : when i maneuvered teh demonstrators around the "security cordon", they didn't do anything. they fell back. cuz wtf were they gonna do.

16:36:59 mircea_popescu: this is universal. if the hrt team gets blown to bits, they run off. what fucking "aerial bombardment", you think that's how it goes, someone feels like it one day and that's it, go ?

16:37:02 ascii_field: strong state does not degenerate to a point where you can ask this question.

16:37:22 ascii_field: which is why usg is not considering what part of texas to bomb today.

16:37:29 mircea_popescu: yaya.

16:41:34 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288069 << i like this as much as anybody, but a) i don't expect to ever live to see it come back and b) if i did live to see it, would probably end up on the suitcase-carrying side of the equation, so i don't especially cry from not living to see it.

16:41:34 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:02:22; mircea_popescu: and the entire society is organised around this notion.

16:42:50 mircea_popescu: this is exactly like saying cca 1915 that "you don't expect to ever live to see computers and if you do you'll prolly be on the side of polishing the casings".

16:43:14 mircea_popescu: this is broadly missing the point, because the sides you'd know about pre aren't a good representation of the sides that actually exist post.

16:43:42 ascii_field: i'm not sure there ever were, or could be, more than two sides of the menial labour counter

16:45:09 mircea_popescu: it's more complicated. the benefits that acrue from living in a sane society are not directly apparent in insanity-land. best one could tell the porter of 1950 was way happier than the bill de blasio of 2010.

16:45:29 ascii_field: but i dont wanna be a porter.

16:45:31 mircea_popescu: in any case, i know that if it were possible to never ever run into either an idiot or idiot droppings, i'd gladly carry cases for the rest of my lives.

16:45:36 ascii_field: in 1950, 550, 50, or 2050.

16:45:44 mircea_popescu: i sorta feel about these like i imagine you feel about rats.

16:45:58 ascii_field: i don't really distinguish the quadripedal and bipedal rat

16:48:09 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288099 << ahahahaha yes.

16:48:09 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:41:02; mircea_popescu: also asciilifeform might enjoy http://uncouthreflections.com/2015/09/28/the-real-problem-of-sexual-assault-on-campus/comment-page-1/#comment-32725 discussion

16:49:17 mircea_popescu: According to the FBI, Steve Schneider?Koresh's top aide, who "probably realized he was dealing with a fraud"?shot and killed Koresh and then killed himself with the same gun.

16:49:25 mircea_popescu: bwahahaha yeah, that is SO VERY TOTALLY what happened.

16:49:37 mircea_popescu: magda realised she's dealing with a fraud so she killed herself and her kids. logic!

16:49:39 ascii_field: 'he ran into my knife! ten times!'

16:50:25 ascii_field: see also death of harris & klebold.

16:50:35 ascii_field: (~exact~ same Official picture)

16:53:30 ascii_field: 'I asked a professor for help with a problem. He talked to me for a bit and then said “You’re having trouble with this problem because you don’t know anything and you’re not working very hard.”' << win

16:55:17 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: how does http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288105 work with http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288108 ?

16:55:17 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:42:57; mircea_popescu: the only just desserts of a castrated population is the humiliation ratchet.

16:55:17 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 04:46:49; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-09-2015#1287879 << see, the subtle differences make the difference. no, that's not what i say.

16:55:48 mircea_popescu: your proposed "not pashtun" is not equal to my actual position! nor even very similar.

16:56:08 ascii_field: roughly, 'unable to be herded by police like cattle' ?

16:56:17 ascii_field: or is there some problem with this heuristic

16:56:24 mircea_popescu: "have something to live for that's inside themselves"

16:56:27 ascii_field: this, roughly, 'pashtunity'

16:56:41 mircea_popescu: ie, humanity.

16:57:05 ascii_field: !s berkem atomi

16:57:07 assbot: 0 results for 'berkem atomi' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=berkem+atomi

16:57:10 ascii_field: ^ pseudonym

16:57:27 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

16:57:29 ascii_field: wrote the little bit about 'extracting your will cock from its scabbard' etc

16:58:08 ascii_field: he also had 'there are pigs... such as you, the reader... then there are jackals, who will eat your carcass when the collapse comes... and there are - or were, human beings. you have almost certainly never met one and never will, reader.' (translation mine)

16:58:16 ascii_field: i suppose these human beings, above.

16:58:40 mircea_popescu: it's really not that rare. just uncommon to be speaking english.

16:58:46 ascii_field: aha.

17:00:07 mircea_popescu: o look, even had a twitter.

17:00:25 ascii_field: http://zhurnal.lib.ru/b/berkem_a_a/paniker.shtml << the essay. in case phf or mircea_popescu feels like translating

17:00:27 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1QLc4NW )

17:00:29 mircea_popescu: why and how did mquin decide spamming's a good idea.

17:12:43 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://33.media.tumblr.com/1c1148c4bbd7cdb794586ad36d25b517/tumblr_nvehzidGqT1tsn8x4o2_400.gif

17:12:44 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1FEKUrP )

17:15:43 ascii_field: 'The police major—perhaps in mind of the nationwide spate of police killings by thugs—decided to speak to this loitering person. The content of the conversation is not yet known. The cop did tell the idiot to show his hands. The idiot refused to show his empty hands. The cop shot him in the leg—I bet that shit hurt! The major then took off his own belt and used it as a tourniquet and the last I heard the boy bl

17:15:43 ascii_field: under was in stable condition. The major is on administrative leave.' << as far as i can tell, it was the 'rats' who escalated from clubs and knives to pistols, over ~50 yrs., in the police-vs-rats warz

17:17:07 ascii_field: at one point, it was understood (at least by urbanites) in usa that killing a cop means the electric chair first and questions later.

17:17:56 ascii_field: it is interesting to watch old films and see things like people going quietly to police station when asked, politely !

17:18:07 ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs!

17:18:09 mircea_popescu: at that point, it was still the usa.

17:18:10 ascii_field: (believe! this was sop.)

17:22:38 mircea_popescu: ;;google define aferation

17:22:39 gribble: Aferrar - Diccionario de español / Spanish Dictionary: http://es.thefreedictionary.com/aferrar; aferrar - Diccionario Inglés-Español WordReference.com: http://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=aferrar; The lJniversity of lTarwick - Department of Computer Science: http://www.dcs.warwick.ac.uk/report/pdfs/cs-rr-073.pdf

17:22:44 mircea_popescu: srsly ?

17:23:33 mircea_popescu: dude this internet was made by retards.

17:23:45 mircea_popescu: aferation is an english,

17:23:47 mircea_popescu: word.

17:27:55 mircea_popescu: it used to be latin, affero, where it meant to bring (ferry comes from the same fero root). it moved into french, where it meant to take over. it then slowly moved into a more figurative "to give oneself the airs of an office one does not yet have", at which point it moved into english, "to give oneself airs".

17:31:55 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16900 @ 0.0006795 = 11.4836 BTC [-] {4}

17:42:35 mats: http://www.irongeek.com/i.php?page=videos/derbycon5/mainlist

17:42:37 assbot: Derbycon 2015 Videos (Hacking Illustrated Series InfoSec Tutorial Videos) ... ( http://bit.ly/1JCYcA3 )

17:46:56 punkman: mats, any picks?

17:51:27 mats: the movfuscator talk is good, although i think you've already looked at the writeup

17:51:48 mats: the wmi talk covered some stuff i haven't seen before

17:58:02 mats: fun fact: an 'Untrusted' process can use a bug in COM impersonation with WMI to escalate to 'High Integrity'

18:08:55 thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.

18:23:46 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4182 @ 0.0006792 = 2.8404 BTC [-]

18:25:11 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

18:25:26 ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288746 << gimme my five minutes back.

18:25:26 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 18:08:55; thestringpuller: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3mztro/how_bitcoin_died_a_report_from_2025/ << l0lz. Bitcoin seems to illuminate the stupid for what they are.

18:25:35 ascii_field: (ok, 30 sec)

18:25:51 ascii_field: what a waste of electron.

18:30:35 thestringpuller: https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/index.php/Nuclear_weapons << maybe this can make up for it

18:31:27 ascii_field: thestringpuller: 'Since 2001-09-11, great stocks of (unclassified) information have been purged from US government sites. Various fellow travelers (see below) maintain partial archives. Relevant conference proceedings (high-density physics, etc) get snapped up on used book sites quickly.' << learn ru.

18:31:30 ascii_field: problem solved.

18:31:31 ascii_field: srsly.

18:32:22 ascii_field: 'My recommendations are to follow The Making of the Atomic Bomb and The Los Alamos Primer (see "Books", below) with a few nuclear engineering and physics texts, at which point you'll be well-equipped to daydream about your own neutron initiator ideas and radical implosion symmetries. ' << without exception engl. language material is crawling with deliberate and potentially lethal disinfo, on this and many other subjects.

18:32:30 ascii_field: this was conscious and engineered.

18:32:58 thestringpuller: "Don't be afraid to search through Russian papers; once you need to (you'll know when), they're sufficiently mathematically dense that you can follow along. The words are mainly just transitions anyway."

18:33:11 ascii_field: don't use the engl. translations of these, either.

18:34:20 ascii_field: verdict re: site: EOL snore.

18:34:23 thestringpuller: https://nick-black.com/dankwiki/images/0/08/Ahmadinejad.jpg << you have to admit that's funny

18:42:32 thestringpuller: sorry for boring you ascii_field :(

18:45:07 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16800 @ 0.000685 = 11.508 BTC [+]

18:51:14 ascii_field: just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving

18:51:16 assbot: The Skarp Laser Razor: 21st Century Shaving by Skarp Technologies — Kickstarter ... ( http://bit.ly/1LksTS7 )

18:51:43 ascii_field: ^ plausibility: approximately zero; money: $millions

18:52:13 ascii_field: addendum now has film of the sc4mz0r burning his skin with what is - bet your arse - a hot nichrome wire

18:52:23 ascii_field: but it is described as 'laser!'

18:52:50 ascii_field: for bonus revulsion, picture what this tool would ~smell~ like if it were physically possible and worked.

18:52:58 mircea_popescu: uh

18:53:20 ascii_field: when i see something like this, i cannot help but wonder if 'kickstarter' is a straight money laundry for siphoning stolen cc#

18:53:21 jurov: well.. laser depilation is a thing

18:53:28 ascii_field: jurov: pointedly not the item claimed

18:53:38 ascii_field: jurov: read the link. if you can stomach it.

18:53:50 jurov: yes i saw it, funny

18:53:55 ascii_field: perhaps the most egregious ks scam yet.

18:54:48 mircea_popescu: ascii_field figured it out!

18:55:07 mircea_popescu: yes dude, most of the "investments" are that. "oops we lost the money". right.

18:55:22 mircea_popescu: !up ascii_field

18:55:44 ascii_field: there are a few indie computer games etc. sprinkled in for legitimacy

18:55:59 ascii_field: (what is it called when honest folks end up doing this duty for a chumpatron..)

18:56:26 mircea_popescu: bullock shilling ?

18:56:31 ascii_field: possible

18:56:46 ascii_field: i confess, i lack the full vocabulary to describe adequately a scamatron of this complexity.

18:59:07 mircea_popescu: in similar newds, http://41.media.tumblr.com/9b7797cf96d2ab41c4693025c2fd8ebc/tumblr_nl9v66qyvE1u4e2kko1_1280.jpg

18:59:08 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1Lkugjr )

18:59:52 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: why, do you suppose, the passers-by look so glum ?

19:00:08 mircea_popescu: they are not aware.

19:00:30 mircea_popescu: you have no idea how clueless people in the streets of a quaint european town are.

19:01:13 ascii_field: is there no bus for them to end up under ?

19:01:28 thestringpuller: LOL. Bitstamp is spamming me now.

19:01:37 mircea_popescu: it's like an open air mall.

19:01:43 thestringpuller: "We haven't seen you log in awhile, can we help you with KYC? We miss you!"

19:02:34 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288765 << damn. beat me to it. hilarious video btw. full of the most inept posturing and junior high classroom 'tech'

19:02:34 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 18:51:14; ascii_field: just when some may have thought that it is impossible for 'kickstarter' users to get any dumber: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/skarp/the-skarp-laser-razor-21st-century-shaving

19:04:12 pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288363 << super read. just what i needed today :)

19:04:12 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 11:12:15; deedbot-: [fraudsters] How the world worked back when the world worked - http://fraudsters.com/2015/how-the-world-worked-back-when-the-world-worked/

19:04:20 mircea_popescu: lol

19:04:31 mircea_popescu: hey pete_dushenski, what do you do in your spare time ?

19:04:41 mircea_popescu: by which i mean, when you're not here/writing on your blog etc.

19:05:57 mats: payment processing networks are rolling out updates for 'emv' support at midnight in usa

19:07:24 ascii_field: 'Starting Thursday, merchants will be held fully liable for any losses due to credit card fraud if they are not geared up for the new, more secure, chip cards. And consumers will need to change their habit of swiping their credit cards to pay: Instead, they "dip" their new cards into terminals and leave them there until the transaction is complete. That is, if the retailer they're shopping at has the necessary equipment.'

19:07:24 ascii_field: << mega-snore.

19:07:30 ascii_field: 1) merchants were ALWAYS liable

19:07:46 ascii_field: 2) the new cards are BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE for www purchases and equally scammable

19:07:53 ascii_field: (can use the cc # to buy)

19:07:55 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu property manager of a small, older commercial building that my father owns. 6 tenants, 100 occupants, fun little project. also manage two residential properties. also manage a small start-up in the construction materials space, we make the first/only/bestest fibreglass composite curtain wall framing. and then there's the little one. le petit monstre...

19:08:02 mats: if you have plans to buy things with your credit card tomorrow, should prob do it today, processing networks will be intermittently down

19:08:33 mircea_popescu: here's the thing in my head : b-a is by now at a stage where it kinda needs its own pr agency. and you might be just the asshole to do that, if you swing that way. do you swing that way ?

19:08:36 thestringpuller: mats: is this national?

19:08:48 mats: yes

19:09:02 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: pr agency, l0l! isn't that what moiety starved doing ?

19:09:11 mircea_popescu: no.

19:09:21 mircea_popescu: she starved doing the very scared of bombs secretary brit girl.

19:09:29 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu how do you imagine this agency working ?

19:09:41 pete_dushenski: i'm at essentially no risk of starvation, ftr.

19:09:47 mircea_popescu: and the process of her starvation was that she starved on her own devices, b-a got her a place to stay and then she ran off.

19:09:58 ascii_field: iirc pete_dushenski even sleeps ad libitum

19:10:21 pete_dushenski: even with infant, i do indeed

19:10:31 ascii_field: just the man for a 'Men wanted for hazardous journey. Low wages, bitter cold, long hours of complete darkness. Safe return doubtful. Honour and recognition in event of success.'

19:10:38 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski a pr agency is in this day and age a very simple affair, but somewhat time consuming. in principle, it can be reduced to a lone dude with an internet connection and two lists. one, longer, of useful social media derps. the sort that are willing to do the hard work of upvoting, derping on reddit, etc. the other, sadly shorter, of actual important people can talk to directly. like say "all newspaper column

19:10:39 mircea_popescu: ists in so and so".

19:11:21 mircea_popescu: building these is not particularly difficult,. but it takes time. more importantly, it takes determination. and the sort of attitude of the guy that hey, the managers don't wanna see, but since the phone is here...

19:11:33 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: can't resist the question, what is the point of having the first of the lists ?

19:11:46 mircea_popescu: faux "consensus" building.

19:11:58 mircea_popescu: you know, like reddit all agreed that XT is gonna take over.

19:12:13 *: ascii_field was under the impression that this is a waste of time

19:12:34 ascii_field: at least as per mircea_popescutronic theory

19:12:36 mircea_popescu: depends for whom. why allow the pinoys to make this money ?

19:12:39 mircea_popescu: starve the enemy throughout.

19:12:48 mircea_popescu: denial is a valid strategy.

19:14:31 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: how is this any different than marketing?

19:14:45 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i believe i grok the first list - straightforward enough really, compile those on 'social media' on 'our side' and focus their energies accordingly - it's the second list i'm less clear about.

19:14:58 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski arrington's success, you have to understand, is very little more than this. it's not a difficult recipe to read or follow. it just takes the hard worker to execute.

19:15:10 mircea_popescu: one could argue that jobs genius is altogether not much above this either.

19:15:44 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski no, it's more like, spend all your time on fiverr and craigslist and wherever the hungry congregate, spend a little money buying their ample time.

19:16:05 mircea_popescu: nobody gives a shit about extant social media accounts. their value is not even a fractrion of the work they put in

19:16:25 ascii_field: notice how dog sleds exist, but not rat sleds.

19:16:26 mircea_popescu: what you want is shannonizing meatrobots, capable of pouring out more nonsense. they're cheaper than the electric type, as of yet.

19:16:26 pete_dushenski: aha. so basically #1 is fighting fire with fire.

19:16:28 ascii_field: or chicken sleds.

19:16:44 mircea_popescu: ascii_field every circus worth its name has a flea sled.

19:16:45 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288460 << Ferguson is in a Considers arresting USG state

19:16:45 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 15:09:25; ascii_field: ferguson, for instance, is not in md.

19:17:10 ascii_field: flea sled is great so long as it is not expected to go anywhere in particular.

19:17:14 ascii_field: or carry anything.

19:17:15 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo yeah, i figured he had me when he said that :p

19:17:42 mircea_popescu: ascii_field which it isn't.

19:18:08 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu and #2 is a list of journalists who may require quotes from time to time, which i would then provide directly or send them here to ask b-a directly ?

19:18:09 ascii_field: then beautiful.

19:18:35 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski as to the 2nd list : you want to build raport with those people. make a habit of taking one to lunch every week, if at all possible.

19:18:43 mircea_popescu: (very fucking possible, they travel on starvation budgets)

19:20:44 pete_dushenski: not to put too fine a point on it, but when and how is 'finance' or 'tech' journalist coming to buttfuck edmonton ? afaik they stay at home, work in nyc, or go to 'conpherences'

19:22:52 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu but that's really just a practical matter, there are other ways to build rapport. the bigger question is 'why a pr agency' and 'why now?'

19:23:15 pete_dushenski: it's surely more than just a make work project for me in your mind

19:26:31 mircea_popescu: you familiar with all the alf parachute talk ?

19:26:57 pete_dushenski: don't wait until you're falling from plane to build parachute ?

19:27:13 mircea_popescu: that stuff. and besides, YOU travel now and again don't you ?

19:27:21 mircea_popescu: you'll be going to a lot more conferences i guess.

19:31:37 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu i certainly traveled plenty pre-monstre, though this will be decidedly diminished for at least 6-12 months. also, such trips only once coincided with a conpherence. going forward, as most traveling i do is personal touristing, these are unlikely to coincide again.

19:31:52 mircea_popescu: because why ?

19:31:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 7100 @ 0.0006799 = 4.8273 BTC [-]

19:31:56 pete_dushenski: furthermore, the expense of just taking trips to conpherenes seems prohibitive

19:32:09 mircea_popescu: besides, i wouldn't expect this to get anywhere within 12 months. if it does within 36 i'll be impressed.

19:32:23 pete_dushenski: well that's all you needed to say :)

19:33:34 pete_dushenski: if 36 months is mp='impressed', then 48='so-so' and longer than that is 'pete wasn't the right man for the job'

19:33:40 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

19:33:46 *: ascii_field wonders what interesting things may become part of the picture once enemy can no longer pretend to live in parallel '#b-a never existed' world

19:34:10 mircea_popescu: haha time doesn't scale. but anyway, for it to exist in three years you'll be spending a lot of time on it throughout

19:34:46 mircea_popescu: this is one of those things "anyone" could do except anyone is a socially awkward fuck and anyone lacks the focus and discipline for doing thigns more complex than microwaving.

19:34:57 mircea_popescu: but other than that, anyone could do it!

19:36:01 pete_dushenski: this may well be the right kind of b-a 'contribution' for me, given that i can't code worth a damn.

19:36:25 pete_dushenski: ima mull it over and research a little further into this 'pr' business

19:36:39 mircea_popescu: the only true drawback is that unlike real estate, this is a constant maintenance racket. everything you have at any point won't be useful in 5 years, or even 3. things move too fast. so its not one of those "do this right once it's done forever" stories like alf likes. it's more of a "hold this lamp up".

19:37:12 pete_dushenski: that does sound a bit annoying

19:37:43 pete_dushenski: i quite enjoy my time for reading, writing, etc... hmm.

19:38:06 mircea_popescu: don't use up old age activities while you're young.

19:38:19 mircea_popescu: you don't have the same options once you're in a retirement home.

19:38:22 pete_dushenski: and ftr i'm nowhere near as speedy at these enjoyable activities as mp

19:38:36 pete_dushenski: they take considerable time

19:38:45 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu this is a point.

19:38:46 mircea_popescu: i'm not speedy, i'm just existing on multiple planes at the same time is all.

19:38:57 ascii_field: mircea_popescu's advice is good except in the cases of folks who don't expect to live to retire

19:38:59 pete_dushenski: l0lk

19:39:03 mircea_popescu: hehe

19:39:32 pete_dushenski: eg. cynics from the pale.

19:40:00 pete_dushenski: i mean realists !!

19:44:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26847 @ 0.00067873 = 18.2219 BTC [-] {6}

19:48:45 mircea_popescu: http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/living-in-strategic-denial/article/2569150

19:48:47 assbot: Living in strategic denial | Washington Examiner ... ( http://bit.ly/1GhWynb )

19:48:57 mircea_popescu: check out what exists in washington!

19:51:18 thestringpuller: ;;google doherty threshold

19:51:19 gribble: IBM: The Economic Value of Rapid Response Time: http://www.vm.ibm.com/devpages/jelliott/evrrt.html; Doherty Threshold - Halt and Catch Fire Wiki: http://haltandcatchfire.wikia.com/wiki/Doherty_Threshold; TIL about the Doherty Threshold: < 400ms response time addicting ...: (1 more message)

19:51:47 ascii_field: aaaaand we cut to the chase,

19:51:49 ascii_field: 'To keep America's enemies from running up the score further, Obama will have to take more expansive military actions and increase defense spending. Perhaps Obama will come to realize this truth before he leaves office, as Jimmy Carter did in his last year. '

19:52:12 thestringpuller: !s doherty threshold

19:52:13 assbot: 0 results for 'doherty threshold' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=doherty+threshold

19:52:16 ascii_field: i.e. cheap shilling for 'lockheed', 'raytheon', et al.

19:52:42 BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1288585 << Third verse is best verse. Country went downhill when it was dropped.

19:52:42 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 15:47:03; *: ascii_field can do the su anthem but has trouble with last 2 stanzas of usaian

19:53:46 mircea_popescu: ascii_field what, you spotted raytheon pr ?

19:54:16 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: 'increase defense spending' in usa is dog whistle for 'moar f35 plz'

19:54:34 ascii_field: considering that, without exception, it - and similar - is where the money goes.

19:54:42 ascii_field: not to buy new boots for trigger-pullers, no.

19:54:48 mircea_popescu: you know how this clarity media device works right ?

19:55:03 ascii_field: ?

19:55:34 mircea_popescu: they do a sort of curated "pro-am" blog network. claim 3k new articles a day.

19:56:20 ascii_field: l0l raytheon ad actually visible on this www !

19:56:24 ascii_field: i did not even notice it.

19:56:32 ascii_field: no less than TWO OF THEM

19:56:32 mircea_popescu: it's a sort of wikipedia meets that old women selling pots thing, i forget what it's called.

19:56:33 ascii_field: identical.

19:56:41 ascii_field: 'tupperware

19:56:42 ascii_field: '

19:57:34 mircea_popescu: a right

20:01:13 mircea_popescu: anyway, it's a good model for it's market (middle america!!11), that enchanted fargo where meryl streep still falls in love with clint eastwood every late summer.

20:01:43 ascii_field: mircea_popescu: the depth of the contempt that the herders show for this particular variety of sheep is astonishing imho

20:02:10 mircea_popescu: how do you count ?

20:04:19 ascii_field: e.g., 'How Not to Make Planned Parenthood Squirm'

20:04:32 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

20:04:36 ascii_field: or, 'What happens to schools in case of a shutdown?'

20:04:49 ascii_field: ^ anyone with half a neuron in usa knows that schools have nothing directly to do with the fed. gov.

20:05:04 ascii_field: but this site is not angled at folks having this half a neuron or more

20:05:16 ascii_field: and in this way is ~entirely~ typical for 'right wing usa'

20:07:15 ascii_field: in the british world, 'daily mail' plays same role.

20:08:39 *: mircea_popescu tends to remember obama goons trying to "close down parks" because hey.

20:08:50 mircea_popescu: apparently trees standing also have something to do with the inept government.

20:09:01 ascii_field: this is at least partly engineered for the purpose of reminding the more uppity members of the public that 'if you want to oppose transgendered studies scholarships, fine, but you will do so in the company of people who believe that cancer is caused by demons'

20:10:23 mircea_popescu: irrespective.

20:10:40 ascii_field: see also http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=03-09-2015#1260662

20:10:40 assbot: Logged on 03-09-2015 02:08:18; mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> the other interesting thing is that the market is segmented in such a way that anyone who doesn't want mcfood ends up paying for ~all~ the alt-crackpotteries, not merely the logical ones << this is a very valid point, and the one spot where alf's ideas re meta-lizzards sound most persuasive. i do not believe the market is gerrymandered as it is by accident.

20:11:10 mircea_popescu: but this isn't a market.

20:11:20 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu another 'pr' pregunta : how do you see it being funded given that there's more than just time required ?

20:11:22 ascii_field: similarly, it is made clear that if you wish to oppose some particular usgism, you can do so in the company of impotent flat-earther twerps to your heart's content

20:11:50 pete_dushenski: bbias. crying !

20:11:59 pete_dushenski: (not my crying)

20:12:04 ascii_field: it is what 'fox news', for instance, is made for.

20:12:15 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski you get clients, work on their projects. like anyone else.

20:12:33 mircea_popescu: this theory is unpersuasive.

20:12:46 mircea_popescu: it's like "water's own weight will keep the water up".

20:12:52 mircea_popescu: sure, for as long as you got an igloo.

20:13:10 *: jurov finally came around to build 0.5.4-TEST2, if it sync, it will be new node

20:13:13 mircea_popescu: in general any company is better than usg company by now, and consequently this approach, if it ever was seriously entertained, fails.

20:13:20 mircea_popescu: cool jurov

20:13:25 ascii_field: no, not any.

20:13:27 mircea_popescu: now for chat in eulora ? :D

20:13:31 ascii_field: the designated zoo of impotence is a dead end.

20:13:58 ascii_field: it is same usg, but a special holding pen therein.

20:14:12 ascii_field: lipsticked up to be somehow superficially 'opposition'

20:14:21 ascii_field: a la zhirinovsky in late su.

20:17:21 jurov: in other news, it may turn out my recent mental stupor was primarily not due to allergy, but lithium deficiency

20:17:44 jurov: started taking a mineral water for this, seems to have improved, will see

20:17:45 mircea_popescu: that's a thing ?

20:17:49 ascii_field: ^

20:17:51 ascii_field: was about to say

20:18:05 mircea_popescu: i wasn't aware there's a lithium biological carry.

20:18:06 jurov: i'm as sceptical as anyone. but it wa desperate

20:18:15 mircea_popescu: zinc maybe. various other rare metals.

20:18:17 mircea_popescu: but anyway.

20:19:29 jurov: it was pointedly not a zinc, i was taking that one for some time

20:19:40 mircea_popescu: aok

20:20:27 mircea_popescu: general population is usually zinc deprived, and as a result most infections are drastically ameliorated by a little zinc intake

20:23:35 pete_dushenski: ;;google sources of dietary zinc

20:23:36 gribble: zinc - The World's Healthiest Foods: http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=nutrient&dbid=115; Zinc — Health Professional Fact Sheet - Office of Dietary Supplements: https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Zinc-HealthProfessional/; Top 10 Foods Highest in Zinc - HealthAliciousNess . com: http://www.healthaliciousness.com/articles/zinc.php

20:24:06 mircea_popescu: http://freebeacon.com/national-security/phony-ambassador-running-obamas-anti-islamic-state-diplomacy/ << in other lulz.

20:24:07 assbot: Phony Ambassador Running Obama's Anti-Islamic State Diplomacy - Washington Free Beacon ... ( http://bit.ly/1VroVGD )

20:24:21 mircea_popescu: obama now appoints his own ambassadors, senate rubberstamp too expensive.

20:24:38 pete_dushenski: #7: Cocoa and Chocolate (Cocoa Powder) << maybe *this* is why i've been craving hot chocolate the last month or so.

20:24:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 21900 @ 0.000685 = 15.0015 BTC [+]

20:24:48 ascii_field: eh, jimmy carter 'practiced diplomacy without a license' for decades.

20:24:50 ascii_field: no jail.

20:25:02 mircea_popescu: "Until last night when the Free Beacon contacted the State Department to inquire about the discrepancy, McGurk?s official biography on the State Department website also falsely credited McGurk with the rank of ambassador."

20:25:04 mircea_popescu: lulzy.

20:25:05 ascii_field: 'rule of law' is for plebes

20:25:19 ascii_field: in usa as in su.

20:25:41 mircea_popescu: ftr Gina Chon is kinda hot.

20:28:52 pete_dushenski: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/29/sports/football/As-Worries-Rise-and-Players-Flee-a-Missouri-School-Board-Cuts-Football.html << i was expecting 'due to funding' but it's actually 'due to lack of players' !

20:28:55 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1Vrp9gU )

20:29:25 pete_dushenski: why don't kids want to play this popular usian sport ? injuries.

20:29:31 pete_dushenski: safety.

20:29:34 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: Yeah that started last year.

20:29:41 pete_dushenski: these kids are worse than their mothers !

20:29:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 20650 @ 0.000685 = 14.1453 BTC [+]

20:30:09 pete_dushenski: i guess compared to being on your phone twixting your assistant prof, anything is dangerous

20:30:27 thestringpuller: the lifespan of a football player's career is fairly small

20:30:30 pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo frankly, good on 'em

20:30:48 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller exactly that. and when they're done, they're done like dinner

20:31:24 BingoBoingo: pete_dushenski: The sport really isn't for rich kids from Maplewood anyways.

20:31:36 thestringpuller: ^they play tennis

20:31:44 thestringpuller: and sometimes golf

20:32:14 pete_dushenski: country club sports. as you do.

20:32:23 thestringpuller: I would expect the midwest to have baseball as the top sport.

20:32:23 phf: mircea_popescu: you know it was just b-a of the 1800s. << i think of b-a as more of a stonemasone guild, then a fraternity. maybe in a couple of hundred years when b-a has hereditary wot ratings and ceremonial pgp keys that are not otherwise used for anything. the way i read that joke is that one has the trappings and the other has a trowel that is used for its direct purpose.

20:32:25 mircea_popescu: i dun think i'd encourage any kid to play "professional" school sports. they don't get paid (no, 'scholarship' is not pay like coupons are not refunds) ; b) it's really fucking unhealthy. i mean being in shape is one thing. being "an athlete" is about as unhealthy as being a diabethic.

20:32:45 mircea_popescu: phf well sure.

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20:33:20 ascii_field: mircea_popescu has it. and for sporty types, last i checked, there ~were~ sports that don't guarantee braindamage

20:33:23 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: unhealthy mentally maybe, but all the athletes I know are physically fit like no other.

20:33:44 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu being 'an athelete' is indeed a dangerous and unhealthful proposition.

20:33:44 ascii_field: i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes.

20:33:47 pete_dushenski: thestringpuller you ~look~ vigorous and strong, but are as fragile as they come.

20:34:05 ascii_field: not a real sport unless brain leaks from ears, nose.

20:34:09 ascii_field: if you ask american.

20:34:10 pete_dushenski: 'can do X excellently but can't tie shoelaces w/o tearing acl'

20:34:14 mircea_popescu: trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth.

20:34:23 mircea_popescu: then pete_dushenski can take as his first project promoting the jobs board :D

20:34:57 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller give them a decade until all the hair bone cracks and microtorn ligaments start acting up

20:36:15 pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu (jobs board) that! (scars of 'athleticism') that again!

20:36:44 pete_dushenski: then again, there aren't many avenues for teaching mental toughness and discipline outside of sports in north america

20:36:51 pete_dushenski: unless i'm being insufficiently creative

20:37:11 pete_dushenski: still a hard trade-off to made : mental for physical

20:37:14 mircea_popescu: and in other news, http://41.media.tumblr.com/4604d880d504b6a49e4ad43b9bfeeaa8/tumblr_nlosxph2rz1tkiwgwo1_1280.jpg

20:37:15 assbot: ... ( http://bit.ly/1VrpyQx )

20:37:15 pete_dushenski: make*

20:37:25 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski:

20:37:36 mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski so teach em to ride a horse.

20:38:32 pete_dushenski: lol wouldn't that be an idea

20:38:38 thestringpuller: pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu maybe for contact sports. But the runners are like one step from being a robot.

20:39:52 mircea_popescu: they're still pushing it too hard. not as dangerous in running, sure. but school performance is running the 100meters in fifteen seconds, not trying for eight.

20:41:46 pete_dushenski: well it's our first date afternoon/evening, both free from le petit monstre, so i'm off. cheers !!

20:43:17 BingoBoingo: <ascii_field> i have always seen american football as emblematic of usian anti-intellectualism. glorifying concussions, yes. << It's a tournament, or more a lottery market deal. It's for the poor kids to fight for the chance to make all the money they'll be able to for four years after the drop out of college in teir senior year

20:43:36 BingoBoingo: "Opportunity" and all those buzzwords

20:44:38 BingoBoingo: Then they build a mythology about how Maximum Concussion Sport is the epitome of Opportunity and the chance to earn your own social justice.

20:45:24 BingoBoingo: Canada does this too with Hockey.

20:48:35 phf: ascii_field: or ru films where a murder suspect is not even in handcuffs! << aha "На Севере, на его участках лесных Пеле и Мыке, Вае и Ветрянке, заключенные при перегоне (заключенные ведь не ходят, их «гоняют», это официальный словарь) требовали связать руки за спиной, чтоб конвой не м

20:48:35 phf: подвергались смертельной опасности. «Убитых при попытке к бегству» было очень много."

20:49:42 BingoBoingo: The big problem with American Football is that it is actually a combat sport, but a polite consensus has developed around not referring to it as such

20:51:27 mircea_popescu: lafond has a pretty good point re the "yo mamma's gonna cash out on being the mother of a got-shot".

20:51:39 mircea_popescu: this is like that except with less shot. technically a step up

20:55:39 BingoBoingo: At least boxing was more honest about the crippling yourself for others amusement there. If you work hard enough and get good enough your head doesn't get hit as much. American football hitting your head against things is kinda mandatory.

20:56:49 BingoBoingo: Recently they've been introducing new rules to football to penalize you from hitting otherpeople's heads in certain ways, but hitting your head is still mandatory.

20:58:31 mircea_popescu: the head being actually a more advantageous place to be hit in than the liver, yeah you get hit.

20:58:34 trinque: mircea_popescu | trinque we need that jobs board yo, teh cup runneth fulleth. << indeed! I estimate having something usable by the end of next weekend

20:58:47 mircea_popescu: btw, you ever saw that incredible fight where romania's best boxer was totally gutted ?

20:58:54 mircea_popescu: splendeed trinque

20:58:59 BingoBoingo: I don't think I have

20:59:38 mircea_popescu: ;;google doroftei gatti

20:59:39 gribble: Arturo Gatti v Leonard Dorin - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9HOLlJufq9w; DOROFTEI KO - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6txpxNJjrGw; Arturo Gatti vs Leonard Dorin [Full Fight] - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8hBopWt_zM

21:00:35 *: mircea_popescu still recalls the shock of that.

21:09:32 BingoBoingo: Related http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/30/us/generals-sought-more-positive-coverage-document-shows.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

21:09:35 assbot: Log In - The New York Times ... ( http://bit.ly/1L4Fcjm )

21:36:04 phf: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2015/09/30/everyone-you-know-will-be-able-to-rate-you-on-the-terrifying-yelp-for-people-whether-you-want-them-to-or-not/

21:36:05 assbot: Everyone you know will be able to rate you on the terrifying ‘Yelp for people’ — whether you want them to or not - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgDFYj )

21:37:33 asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

21:37:46 ascii_field: libelomatic.

21:42:27 BingoBoingo: Linked from the libelotron piece https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2014/09/24/i-tried-out-cuddlr-the-tinder-for-cuddling-and-all-i-got-was-severely-creeped-out/

21:42:28 assbot: I tried out Cuddlr, the ‘Tinder for cuddling,’ and all I got was severely creeped out - The Washington Post ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkPMVl )

21:43:02 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15800 @ 0.00067813 = 10.7145 BTC [-]

21:46:38 trinque: ;;later tell funkenstein sadly, new parser ripped up your last deed. happily, the part it ingested included the signature. I've since sent the whole thing back through, and it should pop out shortly.

21:46:38 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:47:37 trinque: I will keep the torn-off signature up there under block 376696.

21:48:16 trinque: it seems that ply parsers are one-shot, or I've missed something. So far my observation is that if you call parse successively on the same parser object, it misbehaves

21:51:10 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14395 @ 0.000685 = 9.8606 BTC [+]

21:56:45 BingoBoingo: Fuck Yes http://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/mizzou/pinkel-confirms-lock-will-start-vs-gamecocks/article_bd300dc7-de03-577a-bc07-05ac470c16ac.html

21:56:46 assbot: Pinkel confirms Lock will start vs. Gamecocks : Sports ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFogk )

22:00:26 BingoBoingo: Following from http://www.themaneater.com/stories/2015/9/29/dear-gary-make-us-care/

22:00:27 assbot: Please Gary: Do the right thing – The Maneater ... ( http://bit.ly/1RgFIeW )

22:01:39 *: ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing

22:03:59 punkman: trinque: well you can't get nested structures by parsing the same string twice, it's gotta go in the grammar?

22:05:24 trinque: punkman: grammar wasn't the problem, as I did not change it to fix his deed

22:06:00 trinque: just started instantiating whatever ply object it is every time I go to parse

22:06:08 trinque: seems stupid, yet I don't have the time currently to discover why

22:06:24 trinque: grammar's just looking for headers, footers, and whatever

22:06:58 BingoBoingo: * ascii_field would rather read his spam box than anything pertaining to football, and doesn't foresee this ever changing << Oh just highlighting the other aspect, something not meaningful which people are directed to rage about instead of their cattle pen

22:08:03 ascii_field: phun phakt: i was once told, by a reliable source, that RAND corp., in its glory days, would NOT hire any man who confessed to taking an interest in football.

22:09:40 BingoBoingo: !up ascii_field

22:10:02 BingoBoingo: In its glory days football was not the monster it is at present

22:10:24 ascii_field: and yet !

22:11:33 BingoBoingo: Now http://www.rand.org/blog/2014/11/adults-are-concerned-about-sons-playing-football-especially.html

22:11:34 assbot: Adults Are Concerned About Sons Playing Football, Especially the More Highly Educated and Obama 2012 Voters | RAND ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkTQoC )

22:11:58 BingoBoingo: Now RAND Copro cares

22:14:53 cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids

22:28:43 mats: vidya games are how i got into programming

22:32:33 mats: skywing (ken johnson, guy that patented 'aslr') reversed the battle.net login protocol, and i used his documentation to write a chat client so i didn't have to keep starcraft open to maintain ops in a channel

22:38:53 cazalla: yeah but for every one of you mats there is a million hamplanets playing cod, much better to be outside playing football (sure, watching is boring, but playing?)

22:38:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14753 @ 0.000685 = 10.1058 BTC [+]

22:39:28 mats: sure, just wanted to share

22:43:35 mats: folks that've read 'Uninformed' might recognize ken from his RE work on patchguard

22:48:00 mats: http://poppopret.org/2013/12/18/reverse-engineering-a-furby

22:48:02 assbot: Reverse Engineering a Furby | Michael Coppola's Blog ... ( http://bit.ly/1LkYL96 )

23:32:50 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18024 @ 0.00068334 = 12.3165 BTC [-]

23:52:21 asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=30-09-2015#1289073 << take up a dog or cat then - far better than footballer kid.

23:52:21 assbot: Logged on 30-09-2015 22:14:53; cazalla: if i was american, i think i'd rather choose brain damage in sports over video games and ham planeting for my kids

23:53:33 asciilifeform: nor does football or not have anything causal to do with 'becoming hamplanet' (it is virtually impossible without 'fast food')

23:54:04 BingoBoingo: Or guide the kid into tennis et al

23:54:38 asciilifeform: 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such

23:54:51 BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'hamplanet' as i understand is a mark of rancid, unrepentant, irremediable... spiritual poverty - rather than lack of physical exercise as such << Pretty much

23:56:16 BingoBoingo: Though former footballers often fall into the spiritual poverty of hamplanetary orbit after their "career" ends

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