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00:00:14 punkman: mircea_popescu: about that simulation, there are 20 bots, they meet everyone else 5 times and play for N rounds each time they meet, after each round there's a 0.995 probability they will stop.

00:01:05 mircea_popescu: so make 400 bots, 20 of each type, meet everyone 500 times and play for n where the probability is .95

00:01:22 Mats_cd03: mircea_popescu: forgot the '(yet)'.

00:01:25 mircea_popescu: 0.995 is bullshit, 200 rounds average ? wtf.

00:01:47 mircea_popescu: but, importantly, give them ego.

00:02:26 punkman: if anyone wants to describe a bot, I'll code it

00:02:26 Mats_cd03: ;;bc,stats

00:02:29 gribble: Current Blocks: 307282 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1165 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 8 hours, 47 minutes, and 12 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16351547351.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.45924

00:02:33 mircea_popescu: let's.

00:02:53 punkman: examples: https://github.com/tscizzle/IPD_Morality/blob/master/the_bots.py

00:02:54 assbot: IPD_Morality/the_bots.py at master tscizzle/IPD_Morality GitHub

00:02:57 mircea_popescu: specifically : a) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent played against each other bot. this is fixed for the respective bot.

00:03:18 mircea_popescu: b) each bot has a 0 to 20% chance of knowing how their opponent player against each bot of their type

00:03:34 mircea_popescu: c) each bot has idem 0 to 20 of their type and also 0 to 5 of all types.

00:03:52 mircea_popescu: all bots know the adversary's hitory with themselves

00:04:15 mircea_popescu: now, on this information, each both has an ego, defined as the balance between the weight they give their own history vs the collected world history

00:05:11 mircea_popescu: a bot that takes a betrayal against itself as badly as a betrayal against the world has average ego.

00:05:25 mircea_popescu: the bot that only cares of its own history has max, and the bot that ignores its own has min.

00:05:29 mircea_popescu: these are also per-bot factors

00:05:31 mircea_popescu: then let them play.

00:06:06 asciilifeform: just one thing missing here

00:06:12 asciilifeform: what's a tourney without... a prize.

00:06:26 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform the prize is their life.

00:06:32 asciilifeform: lol

00:06:32 Mats_cd03: lol.

00:06:47 punkman: they get bigger number when they win

00:06:50 punkman: they like number

00:06:54 mircea_popescu: lol

00:07:15 mircea_popescu: and srlsly, ditch the dumbass "total wot score" model they use

00:07:18 mircea_popescu: just count betrayals.

00:07:38 mircea_popescu: how people pretending to be in math and philosophy can be this fucking dumb is beyond me.

00:07:54 mircea_popescu: next they're going to count the holes in the mains socket to get the voltage.

00:08:11 punkman: the bots only know past moves during the current round as it is

00:08:26 mircea_popescu: yes but from what i've seen, as a sum

00:08:37 mircea_popescu: not as the all-crucial "he y'd you you n'd him"

00:08:38 punkman: no it's a list of all previous moves

00:09:16 mircea_popescu: a is it ?

00:09:26 mircea_popescu: that's ok then

00:09:38 punkman: (in the current round)

00:09:53 punkman: no knowledge about world/environment

00:09:57 mircea_popescu: not necessarily a bad thing, unless im having a brain fart

00:10:08 mircea_popescu: you run a bunch of worlds instead of just one

00:11:01 mircea_popescu: After seven years of the new regime, I had the opportunity to compare the class of 1999 with the class of 1992. In 1992 I set an course in Artificial Intelligence requiring students to solve six exercises, including building a Prolog interpreter. In 1999, six exercises had shrunk to one; which was a 12 line Prolog program for which eight weeks were allotted for students to write it. A special class was laid on for stu

00:11:02 mircea_popescu: dents to learn this and many attended, including students who had attended a course incorporating logic programming the previous term. It was a battle to get the students to do this, not least because two senior lecturers criticised the exercise as presenting too much of a challenge to the students.

00:13:05 punkman: " should use only static initialization variables, randomness, and past moves in order to make a decision. No other state should be updated/saved/taken into account."

00:13:25 punkman: "TODO: Is that 'no other state' thing valid? What if a bot wants to do some behavior only once, but when exactly it does so is randomly determined? I believe this could require some saved information besides the history of moves, but this seems like a valid strategy."

00:14:13 mircea_popescu: moves can be used as a ticker

00:14:16 mircea_popescu: todo seems spurious.

00:21:07 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: other screeds by tarver: http://www.lambdassociates.org/blog

00:21:07 assbot: Popular Essays

00:21:57 mircea_popescu: If a 12 year-old were to write 'I fink that Enid Blyton iz bettern than that Emily Bronte bint cos she has written loads more books' then one could reasonably excuse the spelling as reflective of the stupidity of the mind that produced the content.

00:22:01 mircea_popescu: i actually read this before.

00:22:03 punkman: I'm gonna call the form Iterated Closed-Bag Exchange, more relevant

00:22:07 punkman: *fork

00:22:07 asciilifeform: ^ tarver does not shit gold, not all necessarily worth reading

00:22:31 mircea_popescu: punkman not bad. ICBE

00:22:37 mircea_popescu: soon you'll get investors.

00:22:40 punkman: from Hofstadter: "Two people meet and exchange closed bags, with the understanding that one of them contains money, and the other contains a purchase. Either player can choose to honor the deal by putting into his or her bag what he or she agreed, or he or she can defect by handing over an empty bag."

00:23:21 mircea_popescu: punkman actually, this could have a direct application. let people back the bots, buy shares.

00:23:56 punkman: yeah it's not that hard to come up with a simple bot and enter the tournament

00:24:19 mircea_popescu: punkman for that matter, let people handpick lol

00:24:25 mircea_popescu: human bot impersonators, that's epic

00:25:40 mircea_popescu: hat we now have in academia is a situation where intelligent men and women prostitute themselves to an ideal which no intelligent person could believe. In short they are living a lie.

00:25:45 mircea_popescu: this, quite very much.

00:25:56 mircea_popescu: western women aspire to the respect of men, while living their western lives ?! lolk.

00:26:06 mircea_popescu: i'd rather respect indian hajira.

00:29:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.05201126 = 1.9764 BTC [+]

00:31:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05201145 = 0.5201 BTC [+]

00:31:56 asciilifeform: from the loltraps: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/markshea/2014/02/a-reader-writes-of-his-experience-among-the-dark-enlightenment-types.html

00:31:59 assbot: A Reader Writes of his Experience Among the Dark Enlightenment Types

00:32:55 mircea_popescu: "et in arcadia ego" dumbass.

00:33:33 asciilifeform: shoddy troll is shoddy, 'longcat is long,' news at 11

00:34:08 mircea_popescu: no dude. legolas, definiely legit.

00:34:13 mircea_popescu: - I never met any of the higher Eldars, but I did once meet an Eldar in Training. I don?t know his real name but people called him Legolas. He had long blond hair, was dressed like a 19th century count, and wore a pendant that had both a Christian Cross and Thor?s Hammer on it.

00:34:17 mircea_popescu: should be on reddit.

00:34:30 asciilifeform: (some weirdo actually sent me the link)

00:35:18 mircea_popescu: " The Dark Enlightenment allegedly has millions of dollars of money to play with."

00:35:19 mircea_popescu: orly.

00:35:25 mircea_popescu: what, like almost 1k btc ?

00:35:34 asciilifeform: i think that was meant to imply mr. thiel

00:35:45 mircea_popescu: Different forms of formal attire were required for each day (tuxedos, 3-piece suits, etc)

00:35:46 mircea_popescu: dude!

00:35:52 mircea_popescu: ah this is great lol

00:35:55 asciilifeform: ('island' - obvious tipoff)

00:36:24 mircea_popescu: "For the initial oath taking, everyone must swear on a copy of Darwin?s Origin of Species, just to show their fidelity to HBD"

00:36:27 asciilifeform: (thiel actually exists, is said to hang out with 'moldbuggerers')

00:36:32 mircea_popescu: ahgagaga wait, wait what

00:37:01 punkman: I put on my robe and wizard hat

00:37:03 mircea_popescu: i keep waiting for the biscuit already

00:37:18 mircea_popescu: they're doing the sweaing on the ilyad and drinking out of specially made pornoi cups

00:37:45 mircea_popescu: - They also have all their own secret handshakes, and their own terminology [like the Cathedral ("political correctness"), thedening ("re-establishing ethnic group identity"), genophilia ("love of one's own race"), NRx ("neoreaction"), etc.].

00:38:37 mircea_popescu: well i guess we gotta ipo it now

00:39:00 mircea_popescu: "But of course, cannibalism is not PC either and embracing something simply and solely on the basis that it is a ?reaction? is one of the stupidest things humans can do. You can?t build a life on protest and reaction." <<< ahahaha

00:39:14 mircea_popescu: the entire fucking left is built on reaction, from the 60s onwards.

00:39:28 mircea_popescu: i would guess that yeah, you can't.

00:43:03 BingoBoingo: %ticker

00:43:05 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 2k High: 235 Low: 222 VWAP: 222

00:43:13 BingoBoingo: %bok

00:43:18 BingoBoingo: %b

00:43:26 BingoBoingo: %book

00:43:27 atcbot: 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160

00:44:06 moiety: i sensed biscuits. i should have an IPO of bear biscuits

00:44:33 mircea_popescu: moiety you can't possibly be privy to what i meant by biscuits ?!

00:44:46 moiety: i don't think i am at all

00:45:09 moiety: hence my leaps to shortbread in bear form

00:45:58 mircea_popescu: ah yeah.

00:46:02 mircea_popescu: ;;google cum biscuit

00:46:02 gribble: Soggy biscuit - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soggy_biscuit; Urban Dictionary: cum biscuit: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cum%20biscuit; Urban Dictionary: soggy biscuit: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=soggy%20biscuit

00:46:11 moiety: oh!

00:46:19 moiety: well then, i'll be shutting up now

00:46:45 mircea_popescu: lol

00:47:23 mircea_popescu: anyway, lulzy this thing. guy builds a nice strawman, knocks it down, thanks god for disqus nobody's gonna bother him that way.

00:47:27 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5350 @ 0.0008496 = 4.5454 BTC [+]

00:59:08 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

00:59:10 gribble: Current Blocks: 307288 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1159 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 16 minutes, and 10 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16357998925.4 | Estimated Percent Change: 21.50716

00:59:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41300 @ 0.0008431 = 34.82 BTC [-] {3}

01:00:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 42 @ 0.05037493 = 2.1157 BTC [-] {9}

01:03:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 63 @ 0.04647775 = 2.9281 BTC [-] {14}

01:05:37 moiety: !up chax

01:05:42 moiety: hello

01:05:46 chax: Howdy!

01:06:05 moiety: :] what brings you here?

01:07:43 moiety: lol kbai

01:07:53 benkay: chax is working on a bitcoin-api-as-a-service thinger

01:08:20 moiety: !up chax thought i scared you there XD

01:08:36 moiety: thanks benkay

01:10:18 benkay: hey chax

01:10:30 benkay: slow sunday?

01:14:12 Mats_cd03: :(

01:14:23 benkay: such connection issues...

01:14:35 benkay: and from a SaaS vendor rep...

01:16:20 Mats_cd03: that title seems premature

01:16:57 Mats_cd03: is this the guy whos bsaas project was on hn front page today

01:17:14 benkay: wallet api?

01:17:20 benkay: nah

01:17:22 benkay: don't think so

01:21:00 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.04105652 = 0.9443 BTC [-] {7}

01:34:13 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04056994 = 0.6085 BTC [-]

01:35:04 moiety: i feel chax's pain, this mobile broadband life is irritating the hell out of me. mbb and gribble dont get along

01:36:33 moiety: have to release my nick and re-auth every other hour

01:37:13 benkay: miserable.

01:37:38 kakobrekla: bnc

01:37:40 Mats_cd03: use a bouncer.

01:38:05 Mats_cd03: or , if you are lazy like me , pay for the privilege -> irccloud

01:41:05 kakobrekla: yeah, you also get a nice free nsa backups with that

01:43:37 mircea_popescu: !up Yoko__

01:49:50 moiety: i thoughti had a bouncer built in with this and thats why i didnt timeout, will investigate

01:55:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 50 @ 0.035793 = 1.7897 BTC [-] {6}

02:04:43 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 43 @ 0.035 = 1.505 BTC [-]

02:06:45 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9650 @ 0.00082942 = 8.0039 BTC [-]

02:06:45 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 155 @ 0.033 = 5.115 BTC [-] {4}

02:07:46 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.03283 = 3.283 BTC [-]

02:09:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 24900 @ 0.00082811 = 20.6199 BTC [-]

02:12:51 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 38 @ 0.02200002 = 0.836 BTC [-] {7}

02:13:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 51 @ 0.022 = 1.122 BTC [-] {4}

02:14:53 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 35 @ 0.02131429 = 0.746 BTC [-] {2}

02:14:58 thestringpuller: ;;ud cray

02:14:59 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cray | No one knows what it means, but it's provocative. It gets people going.

02:15:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 28 @ 0.02775205 = 0.7771 BTC [-] {9}

02:21:11 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: when I see OIX on mpex website still, makes me hope the options market comes back one day :(

02:21:46 mircea_popescu: maybe.

02:22:36 thestringpuller: maybe is better than never lol

02:36:23 benkay: gotta have a price signal first

02:43:01 thestringpuller: should just open up an exchange in antarctica

02:43:11 thestringpuller: or on the moon

02:54:15 moiety: i just saw a gribble for the first time! quite cute actually

02:54:50 Mats_cd03: http://newenergyandfuel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/The-Gribble-aka-Limnoria-quadripunctata.jpg

03:02:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16000 @ 0.00081766 = 13.0826 BTC [-]

03:03:17 benkay: tardigrade, but close

03:03:26 benkay: tardi gribble

03:03:27 benkay: late bots

03:13:34 moiety: ergh! Mats_cd03! ok so maybe not that one, he looks angry! imeant this one http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01247/gribble_1247958c.jpg

03:14:17 moiety: !up extra

03:14:22 moiety: !up pennies

03:14:25 moiety: !up Lycerion

03:14:29 extra: thanks

03:14:30 pennies: thank you

03:14:38 moiety: you're welcome :]

03:14:53 Lycerion: thanks

03:15:48 moiety: np :] welcome to -assets?

03:15:53 moiety: assets*

03:16:25 moiety: what do you do?

03:17:16 extra: mostly lose money trading

03:18:53 assbot: Last 2 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/09JVD4A.txt )

03:18:53 benkay: !b 2

03:19:10 benkay: ;;gettrust extra

03:19:11 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user benkay to user extra: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=benkay&dest=extra | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=extra | Rated since: never

03:19:14 pennies: so what is this place?

03:19:32 benkay: a house of ill repute

03:19:44 pennies: i want to be apart of this lovely place

03:19:51 pennies: i am a seeker of lovely places

03:20:42 benkay: ;;ident pennies

03:20:42 gribble: Nick 'pennies', with hostmask 'pennies!423790bb@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.66.55.144.187', is not identified.

03:20:56 benkay: i don't think apart means what you think it means, pennies

03:21:11 pennies: why?

03:21:44 benkay: well if one is apart from a thing one is not a part of it

03:21:54 benkay: ;;google define apart

03:21:55 gribble: Apart | Define Apart at Dictionary.com: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/apart; Apart - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart; Apart from - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ...: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/apart%20from

03:22:24 benkay: to or at one side, with respect to place, purpose, or function: to put money apart for education; to keep apart from the group out of pride.

03:22:59 benkay: but if you want to hang around, you both need to get into the web of trust

03:23:14 benkay: ;;google bitcoin-otc web of trust

03:23:14 gribble: #bitcoin-otc web of trust: http://bitcoin-otc.com/trust.php; #bitcoin-otc: http://bitcoin-otc.com/; #bitcoin-otc web of trust data: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratings.php

03:27:01 pennies: i feel unwanted

03:29:28 Mats_cd03: benkay is a semantic asshole, don't take it personally

03:29:43 benkay: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mashed-potato-spillage-closes-yorkshire-road-for-five-hours-9554812.html

03:29:43 assbot: Mashed potato spillage closes Yorkshire road for five hours - Home News - UK - The Independent

03:29:51 benkay: well pennies why would anyone want you?

03:29:56 benkay: gotta d that h v

03:30:02 Mats_cd03: moiety: heh

03:31:12 moiety: lol extra

03:31:27 extra: sup moiety

03:31:47 benkay: semantic asshole

03:32:12 moiety: how do people find here without knowing what it is

03:32:23 moiety: or looking at topics

03:32:47 extra: who says I didn't read the topic

03:32:55 moiety: not you extra, i meant pennies

03:32:58 moiety: !up chax

03:33:03 extra: pennies is just a retard

03:33:05 extra: but we love him

03:33:07 moiety: welcome back chax

03:33:16 moiety: oh you all know each other? how so?

03:33:34 extra: random btc trading channels

03:33:49 Mats_cd03: what do i look like? a poet? shit

03:34:38 moiety: lmao at the mashed potato benkay, reminds me of the overflowing pizza dough

03:34:55 benkay: Mats_cd03: wouldja put that in my rating pplease? "semantic asshole"

03:35:05 benkay: i thought you'd appreciate that moiety

03:35:45 Mats_cd03: as it is in heaven

03:38:08 moiety: well extra this is the most useful channel in bitcoinland, the logs are a good place to begin :]

03:38:33 moiety: i did benkay :D

03:41:12 moiety: also updated guide is in the wiki

03:42:04 moiety: hi peterl

03:42:15 peterl: hi moiety and everybody

03:44:44 benkay: how've you been sir

03:44:51 benkay: !up extra

03:45:19 moiety: kakobrekla, Mats_cd03 .. is psyBNC ok enough to use?

03:45:33 moiety: !up Lycerion

03:45:47 nubbins`: pbbt

03:45:59 thestringpuller: nubbins`: what's da stats on dat shirt

03:46:01 benkay: oh holy hell logsearch is great

03:46:06 thestringpuller: no rush

03:46:14 thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added?

03:46:27 mthreat: benkay: thanks!

03:46:36 thestringpuller: yea mthreat gangsta shit

03:46:44 benkay: mthreat: mostly 'cause you put my name on the front

03:47:00 mthreat: oldest trick in the book

03:47:16 benkay: ;;rate mthreat 1 knows who to pay off

03:47:17 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating for user mthreat has changed from 1 to 1.

03:47:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4289 @ 0.0008182 = 3.5093 BTC [+]

03:48:05 Mats_cd03: got bored, thought I'd read last year's logs from this day

03:48:14 Mats_cd03: bitcoin935:voorhees can pay me for my shares im even considering flying out to panama where violence is a way of life

03:48:32 Mats_cd03: bitcoin935:voorhees is going to get whats coming to him

03:48:42 Mats_cd03: where is your god now

03:48:49 thestringpuller: HOLY SHIT

03:48:52 thestringpuller: that's funny as fuck

03:49:25 mthreat: benkay: I'm noticing from the log - it looks like "from: username" isn't being parsed right, remove the space to make it work right

03:49:33 mthreat: (from the http log, i mean)

03:50:13 mthreat: or really just searching for 'username' with no field specifier will work because I put the irc nick in the default search field

03:50:34 benkay: yeah that's weird

03:50:44 benkay: glad that shit's not my problem :D:D:D:D:D:D:D

03:50:53 thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money...

03:50:56 thestringpuller: lol

03:51:02 Mats_cd03: moiety: ya i have heard good things about it

03:53:31 thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#97671 << dayyumn

03:53:31 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

03:54:12 dub: didn't it hit close to 5?

03:54:36 benkay: no but don't get me wrong mthreat - it's awesome and i'm quite thrilled to have it

03:55:57 thestringpuller: lol...history...fuck...gettin' old

03:55:57 benkay: but from's behavior is totally weird

03:56:44 Mats_cd03: meanwhile goat brags about 4M in fiat to random

03:56:48 Mats_cd03: cute

03:57:28 mthreat: benkay: you mean the fact that "from: username" doesn't parse right?

03:57:33 thestringpuller: whatever happened to goat? Do I have to just read or can someone give me tl;dr ?

03:58:05 nubbins`: not sure

03:58:08 Namworld: He's living the good life in thailand I think

03:58:11 nubbins`: still on the forums

03:58:14 Mats_cd03: ;;seen chaang-noi

03:58:14 gribble: chaang-noi was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 18 weeks, 6 days, 21 hours, 58 minutes, and 25 seconds ago: <Chaang-Noi> might have to sue em

03:58:14 thestringpuller: i'd always call him the king of thailand and he would always say not to joke about that because they'd kill him if they caught someone calling him that...

03:58:19 Namworld: Pops around ever other month

03:58:26 Mats_cd03: lol.

03:59:14 thestringpuller: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2013#196389 << LOL!

03:59:15 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

03:59:39 benkay: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=22-06-2013#96976

03:59:39 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

04:04:59 Mats_cd03: what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin?

04:05:37 xmj: this channel is publicly logged, right?

04:05:52 joecool: do you really have to ask

04:06:06 Mats_cd03: bet the guy spends his time bragging about how famous he is in the bitcoin community

04:06:26 Mats_cd03: to naked minors in some whorehouse

04:07:44 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 45 @ 0.04132944 = 1.8598 BTC [-] {9}

04:07:54 xmj: joecool: the answer determines my answer to Mats_cd03's question.

04:07:56 xmj: :-)

04:09:54 thestringpuller: nubbins`: what do you mean by still on the forums?

04:10:04 nubbins`: still active there

04:10:16 thestringpuller: as for the stats of the shirts?

04:10:23 thestringpuller: is the forums?

04:10:25 Mats_cd03: Chaang-Noi:we are not 1005 sure what pirate did was fruad

04:10:28 thestringpuller: lol i iz confused...

04:10:28 Mats_cd03: Chaang-Noi:some claim it to be a ponzi

04:10:39 nubbins`: sorry, i was talking about goat

04:10:47 Mats_cd03: Chaang-Noi:but no proff

04:10:51 thestringpuller: Oh hah I'm reading my logs non linearly in time

04:11:03 nubbins`: too late to add express shipping, shirt's in the mail ;(

04:11:08 thestringpuller: kk

04:11:16 thestringpuller: how long does it usually take to ship into america?

04:11:16 Mats_cd03: Chaang-Noi:and he is not in jai

04:11:16 nubbins`: i added an extra in yours and danielpbarron's packages

04:11:23 nubbins`: 5-6 business days

04:11:25 thestringpuller: extra shirt?

04:11:29 nubbins`: you might get it friday

04:11:34 nubbins`: extra surprise :D

04:11:40 thestringpuller: OH BOI!

04:11:43 thestringpuller: I like surprises.

04:12:58 thestringpuller: whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about?

04:13:11 nubbins`: heh

04:13:18 nubbins`: ;;seen Diablo-D3

04:13:18 gribble: Diablo-D3 was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 weeks, 2 days, 15 hours, 2 minutes, and 46 seconds ago: <Diablo-D3> like those hilariously large faux horse dildos

04:13:33 nubbins`: the things people say right before they stop saying things

04:13:57 thestringpuller: 2 weeks ain't that long ago

04:14:08 thestringpuller: ;;seen Nefario

04:14:09 gribble: Nefario was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 1 year, 38 weeks, 5 days, 8 hours, 13 minutes, and 47 seconds ago: <nefario> Those assets are not listed or traded anymore

04:14:15 thestringpuller: LOL

04:14:46 thestringpuller: ;;gettrust nefario

04:14:46 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user thestringpuller to user nefario: Level 1: 0, Level 2: -1 via 4 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=thestringpuller&dest=nefario | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=nefario | Rated since: Tue Jul 12 22:55:49 2011

04:15:39 nubbins`: i gotta sleep

04:28:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04154292 = 0.5816 BTC [-] {7}

04:29:05 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.04089371 = 0.6543 BTC [-] {6}

04:29:17 benkay: xmj: http://bitcoin-assets.com || http://log.bitcoin-assets.com || http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com || http://blogs.bitcoin-assets.com

04:29:17 assbot: #bitcoin-assets | You cannot stop the clouds by the building of a ship.

04:29:18 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

04:29:18 assbot: #bitcoin-assets bash

04:29:18 assbot: Assets Assimilated

04:30:09 xmj: benkay: yeah, it was more of a rhethorical question to make a point.

04:32:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 37650 @ 0.00080148 = 30.1757 BTC [-] {2}

04:32:29 mircea_popescu: <moiety> how do people find here without knowing what it is << personally, i blame you!

04:39:13 moiety: mircea_popescu: good blame though right?! lol it's the manuls, not me! >.>

04:40:22 mircea_popescu: lol

04:45:21 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 80 @ 0.04001012 = 3.2008 BTC [-] {3}

04:49:22 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/062214-halfway-difficulty/

04:57:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3000 @ 0.00080082 = 2.4025 BTC [-]

04:58:34 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [SCRYPT] 20 @ 0.027 = 0.54 BTC [-]

05:05:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04 = 0.84 BTC [+] {4}

05:05:50 Namworld: Hmm, I sent an email out. Got a few replies. Still a lot of people who don't answer.

05:06:24 Namworld: Some people just don't want to be repaid,

05:16:05 assbot: extra +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

05:24:33 moiety: ;; rate extra 2 #bitcoin-assets voice

05:24:35 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user extra has been recorded.

05:24:51 moiety: don't make me regret that extra :]

05:25:06 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04556999 = 0.5468 BTC [+] {3}

05:25:11 extra: thanks bb

05:28:06 moiety: theres only one BB here XD but np, you obviously read the guides, logs are next. lots to soak in

05:28:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 19 @ 0.04904967 = 0.9319 BTC [+] {3}

05:29:17 moiety: Namworld: at least you tried :]

05:29:19 cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here?

05:30:13 moiety: you can learn to contribute the more information you are armed with

05:30:27 moiety: unless epically retarded - those cant be helped

05:31:58 dub: heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden

05:32:00 moiety: ratings aren't set in stone

05:32:04 dub: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2013#18961

05:32:05 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

05:35:38 dub: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=07-05-2013#19577

05:35:39 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

05:37:57 cazalla: i learn something new here every day moiety but little point parroting it back, a little humbling if anything, just an interesting self observation after being here a while now

05:39:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 31 @ 0.05479963 = 1.6988 BTC [+] {5}

05:40:21 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32359 @ 0.00079998 = 25.8866 BTC [-] {2}

05:46:41 moiety: i learn a lot i wasn't expecting to cazalla :D youre right it is humbling. i just try to make it up be being useful in whatever way i can be (manuls aside)

05:47:06 moiety: !up darlidada

05:47:13 moiety: hello

05:48:12 Namworld: I only need to repay 9.04 BTC to people who haven't replied, fortunately.

05:49:13 Namworld: I also owe 178 BTC to large holders but those replied.

05:52:09 Namworld: Getting there slowly.

06:05:11 moiety: you're not giving up which is the main thing Namworld :]

06:24:04 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9280 @ 0.00079998 = 7.4238 BTC [-]

06:28:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4650 @ 0.00080082 = 3.7238 BTC [+]

06:29:09 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14600 @ 0.00080126 = 11.6984 BTC [+] {2}

06:30:05 thestringpuller: !up Diablo-D3

06:30:30 thestringpuller: !up Diablo-D3

06:30:36 Diablo-D3: [12:13:01] <thestringpuller> whatever happened to Diablo-D3? Didn't he have some million dollar datacenter idea he would always talk about?

06:30:41 Diablo-D3: Ive been working on it actually

06:31:02 thestringpuller: shouldn't you start by gpg authing to get voice :P

06:31:25 Diablo-D3: I dont feel like being hassled with it

06:39:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18768 @ 0.00080137 = 15.0401 BTC [+]

06:52:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 41100 @ 0.0008029 = 32.9992 BTC [+]

06:58:38 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 6409 @ 0.00080657 = 5.1693 BTC [+] {2}

07:05:46 punkman: fucking phone spammers man

07:06:16 punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP

07:07:09 punkman: ninjashogun at least uses IRC http://i.imgur.com/oPHttO0.png

07:08:48 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18286 @ 0.00080747 = 14.7654 BTC [+]

07:09:48 punkman: !up Ignatius-otc

07:12:05 moiety: punkman: lolololol "go die" "ok just so you know, the terms are..." classic ninjashogun

07:13:26 moiety: not unlike the cambots i keep getting on skype

07:17:57 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26722 @ 0.00081084 = 21.6673 BTC [+]

07:21:56 []bot: Bet created: "LeBron James to take his talents elsewhere" http://bitbet.us/bet/960/

07:29:43 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmc4vhaI8-I

07:29:43 assbot: Peter Tevis & Ennio Morricone - A Gringo Like Me - YouTube

07:31:31 []bot: Bet created: "Magnus Carlsen Chess World Champion 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/961/

07:33:36 punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX_6djrXQuQ

07:33:36 assbot: ENNIO MORRICONE LIVE IN ZRICH - The Ecstasy of Gold - 13.2.2014 - YouTube

07:35:58 cazalla: thought that name looked familiar

07:36:07 cazalla: here's to you, only one i know though

07:38:48 []bot: Bet created: "Obama Approval Rating over 45% in 2014" http://bitbet.us/bet/962/

07:46:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18500 @ 0.00081295 = 15.0396 BTC [+]

08:08:30 punkman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/canada/10916470/Canadian-woman-who-stopped-car-to-help-ducks-faces-life-in-jail-after-causing-fatal-crash.html

08:08:30 assbot: Canadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash - Telegraph

08:14:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18491 @ 0.00081084 = 14.9932 BTC [-]

08:36:16 punkman: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup/10918321/Football-match-fixing-deal-casts-cloud-over-World-Cup.html

08:36:16 assbot: Football match-fixing deal casts cloud over World Cup - Telegraph

08:37:08 pankkake: oh, "to help ducks". I was reading it as "to help duck faces"

08:39:17 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8659 @ 0.00081295 = 7.0393 BTC [+]

08:43:38 moiety: nothing can help duck faces pankkake it's a terminal disease

08:49:27 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.05499993 = 0.715 BTC [+] {3}

08:57:35 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PROV] 500 @ 0.002 = 1 BTC

09:51:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42300 @ 0.0008205 = 34.7072 BTC [+] {2}

10:20:58 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 9350 @ 0.00081998 = 7.6668 BTC [-]

11:26:01 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 3050 @ 0.00081998 = 2.5009 BTC [-]

11:35:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 10 @ 0.05499992 = 0.55 BTC [+]

11:49:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16300 @ 0.00081969 = 13.3609 BTC [-] {2}

11:50:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 26600 @ 0.00081587 = 21.7021 BTC [-] {3}

11:50:25 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.0541 = 1.082 BTC [-]

11:53:18 punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.0

11:53:18 assbot: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

12:00:17 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointa.lk/index.php?topic=653207.msg7444672#msg7444672

12:00:17 assbot: Cryptsy - Time for Paul Vernon To Come Clean | Bitcointa.lk

12:00:35 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 18042 @ 0.0008156 = 14.7151 BTC [-] {2}

12:06:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 6 @ 0.19321806 = 1.1593 BTC [-] {5}

12:13:26 BingoBoingo: punkman: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7428899#msg7428899 << OMG Great post!!!

12:13:26 assbot: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

12:20:41 pankkake: if that is true, yet another forum vip scammer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7429617#msg7429617

12:20:42 assbot: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

12:22:29 pankkake: and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently

12:24:14 BingoBoingo: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=659828.msg7444427#msg7444427

12:24:14 assbot: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL)

12:24:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05499992 = 1.485 BTC [+]

12:28:46 kakobrekla: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798

12:28:47 assbot: Ripoff Report | bitbet.us Complaint Review Internet: 1155798

12:29:01 kakobrekla: ok lol, bitbet.us will scam you playing blackjack, did you know?

12:29:35 kakobrekla: http://dpaste.com/1882B7N.txt

12:29:35 kakobrekla: idiots

12:30:02 kakobrekla: what they are doing is extortion, and being bad at it.

12:30:04 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 27 @ 0.05499983 = 1.485 BTC [-] {2}

12:31:47 pankkake: "Aribitrate"

12:38:21 punkman: kakobrekla: bitbet.com does blackjack

12:38:56 kakobrekla: aha

12:39:04 kakobrekla: well whatever.

12:39:20 kakobrekla: it sez .us on the first link

12:49:33 dub: %book

12:49:34 atcbot: 35k@250 50k@240 16k@235 | 33k@177 750k@175 216k@160

13:00:34 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 17850 @ 0.00081441 = 14.5372 BTC [-]

13:01:21 nubbins`: hi

13:02:17 Mats_cd03: hi qt

13:02:21 nubbins`: :0

13:02:31 Mats_cd03: whats new

13:02:43 nubbins`: nm, just bought a new printer

13:02:57 Mats_cd03: what for

13:02:58 nubbins`: we have a book printing job and the old one broke last night :(

13:03:25 Mats_cd03: bummer

13:03:39 nubbins`: we got a lot of use out of it, at least

13:03:50 Mats_cd03: good for scrap, at least?

13:04:00 nubbins`: still ok for casual use

13:04:04 nubbins`: probably just needs a new drum

13:04:12 nubbins`: well. another new drum

13:04:27 nubbins`: but you can't give clients pages with toner speckled all over 'em

13:05:22 nubbins`: but! on the bright side, this new one is color. and does wifi.

13:11:51 *: BingoBoingo imagines when nubbins says his new printer is color that it is pink

13:12:08 Mats_cd03: nubbins`: r u located in us?

13:13:47 BingoBoingo: ;;ticker

13:13:48 gribble: Bitstamp BTCUSD ticker | Best bid: 583.0, Best ask: 584.0, Bid-ask spread: 1.00000, Last trade: 584.0, 24 hour volume: 4049.70046702, 24 hour low: 580.46, 24 hour high: 602.0, 24 hour vwap: 589.903384868

13:13:52 BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: Prolly

13:14:04 BingoBoingo: In the hat region

13:16:32 Mats_cd03: nubbins`: id like to print a few (4) tech manuals n things that r ~1000 pages ea. interested?

13:18:37 Mats_cd03: im a sucker for dead trees

13:22:52 Mats_cd03: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/23/us-iraq-security-idUSKBN0EY0Q120140623 countdown to caliphate

13:22:52 assbot: Kerry presses Maliki as Iraq loses control of Syrian, Jordanian borders| Reuters

13:28:02 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 30 @ 0.05258336 = 1.5775 BTC [-] {6}

13:38:11 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.05010324 = 1.0021 BTC [-] {4}

13:39:07 TomServo: http://cryptome.org/2014/06/bitcoin-crypto-justice.pdf

13:39:22 *: TomServo attempts to retain the contents of his stomach.

13:39:32 TomServo: Great crypto justice!

13:41:13 Mats_cd03: lol anon authors with names of characters from hbo silicon valley

13:46:19 dignork: Mats_cd03: "The presented work has been conducted by"

13:46:20 dignork: five anonymous students guided by prof. Johan

13:46:22 dignork: Pouwelse at the Delft University of Technology

13:46:48 Mats_cd03: yes

13:47:51 dignork: Illuminate the path to crypto-justice - priceless

13:48:25 Mats_cd03: redundant. crypto is justice.

13:54:46 thestringpuller: ;;seen jborkl

13:54:47 gribble: jborkl was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 6 days, 18 hours, 40 minutes, and 49 seconds ago: <jborkl> haha :(

14:10:43 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14958 @ 0.00081466 = 12.1857 BTC [+]

14:37:13 []bot: Bet placed: 3 BTC for No on "Silk Road Coin Auction Extravaganza" http://bitbet.us/bet/951/ Odds: 26(Y):74(N) by coin, 36(Y):64(N) by weight. Total bet: 7.19821016 BTC. Current weight: 38,070.

14:37:26 fluffypony: HELLO FRIENDS

14:37:39 fluffypony: plane boarding in 2 hours

14:38:07 Blazedout419: what plane would that be

14:38:32 fluffypony: Blazedout419: going to Estonia

14:38:39 Blazedout419: O_o

14:38:52 Naphex: what's up in estonia?

14:39:18 fluffypony: Naphex: going to a conference at Malla

14:39:23 jurov: fluffypony and where are you atm?

14:39:28 fluffypony: and hanging out with xmj

14:39:30 fluffypony: jurov: Johannesburg

14:39:57 jurov: oh... i thought you're already somewhere in eu changing planes

14:40:00 fluffypony: there are 3 different business lounges I have access to, so I'm on my second one

14:40:25 fluffypony: jurov: no, I came up to Jhb on Friday so I could see friends and visit my 84 year old grandmother

14:52:24 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15658 @ 0.00081512 = 12.7631 BTC [+]

14:53:27 BingoBoingo: fluffypony: The tortilla conference?

14:54:30 fluffypony: BingoBoingo: yes

14:54:40 fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane

14:55:02 BingoBoingo: Is refried beans and queso also showing up?

14:56:28 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32850 @ 0.00081229 = 26.6837 BTC [-] {3}

14:56:47 BingoBoingo: What about Al Pastor?

14:57:13 mthreat: maybe Menudo will play

14:58:38 fluffypony: lol

14:58:38 Mats_cd03: mmm i think ill get chipotle today

14:58:46 fluffypony: BingoBoingo started a trend

14:59:18 Mats_cd03: ever had a quesarito?

14:59:29 mthreat: damn i miss chipotle

14:59:33 fluffypony: no

14:59:42 fluffypony: I've only had Mexican food two or three times

14:59:52 fluffypony: there is a decent enough Mexican restaurant in Cape Town

15:00:06 Mats_cd03: a quesarito is a burrito with the shell of a quesadilla, melted cheese between two tortillas

15:00:28 fluffypony: but we mostly went for the margaritas

15:00:31 fluffypony: oh nice

15:01:42 Mats_cd03: fattening as fuck

15:02:26 Mats_cd03: bet its like ~1100 cals har har

15:04:35 fluffypony: moving to next lounge, bbiab

15:04:43 jurov: orly, flying to eu to meet tortilla of all people?

15:05:12 assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/2FJDGBF.txt )

15:05:12 BingoBoingo: !b 7

15:05:25 BingoBoingo: Mats_cd03: There's two tortillas?

15:07:39 assbot: rithm +v failed; L1: 0, L2: 0

15:08:33 Apocalyptic: !up rithm

15:08:40 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 29300 @ 0.00080741 = 23.6571 BTC [-] {4}

15:08:42 Apocalyptic: !up rithm

15:08:55 Apocalyptic: damn

15:10:29 BingoBoingo: %ticker

15:10:30 atcbot: [X-BT] Bid: 177 Ask: 235 Last Price: 235 24h-Vol: 0k High: N/A Low: N/A VWAP: N/A

15:10:33 rithm: fu assbot

15:10:35 Mats_cd03: BingoBoingo: might be a hard shell on the inside, its been a while

15:10:35 Apocalyptic: !up rithm

15:10:43 rithm: ;;ident

15:10:44 gribble: Nick 'rithm', with hostmask 'rithm!~rithm@unaffiliated/rithm', is not identified.

15:10:52 Blazedout419: oh no who let rithm in here

15:10:53 *: rithm kicks and stabs assbot

15:11:07 Blazedout419: rithm I got tracking on our coins today!

15:11:19 rithm: whew that was a lot of hacking just to talk

15:11:26 rithm: i'm tired now

15:11:46 rithm: this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone

15:12:15 rithm: mp asked about logs and i realized i wasn't even here

15:12:23 rithm: that's the result of your assbot

15:13:03 Apocalyptic: the question is do you have them ?

15:13:18 Apocalyptic: oh you mean you weren't here back in 2011/2012 ?

15:13:20 rithm: nope

15:13:28 rithm: yes

15:13:41 rithm: i request was made for inception to present

15:13:46 rithm: which i cannot fulfill

15:13:53 Apocalyptic: sounds about right

15:15:30 rithm: something private, maybe

15:15:37 rithm: a whole channel log, no

15:15:47 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 24 @ 0.04936878 = 1.1849 BTC [-] {7}

15:16:48 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 16 @ 0.048 = 0.768 BTC [-]

15:20:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 29 @ 0.04601997 = 1.3346 BTC [-] {3}

15:32:30 benkay: ;;gettrust assbot rithm

15:32:31 gribble: WARNING: Currently not authenticated. Trust relationship from user assbot to user rithm: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 0 via 0 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=assbot&dest=rithm | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=rithm | Rated since: Tue May 6 14:03:45 2014

15:32:45 rithm: ~/.xchat2$ cat scrollback/jcph.am-Freenode/#bitcoin-assets

15:32:48 rithm: whoops

15:32:51 rithm: raise the roof

15:33:14 rithm: stop nick highlighting me i'm trying to work over here

15:33:17 Apocalyptic: dat jcpham

15:34:05 rithm: don't hack me

15:34:06 benkay: i don't know what to make of all this

15:34:12 benkay: why the new nick, rithm/jcpham?

15:34:14 fluffypony: dat fake gpg keyz

15:34:36 fluffypony: rithm knows what I'm talking aboooooot

15:34:37 Apocalyptic: benkay, I asked the same a while ago, got a not so serious answer

15:34:47 rithm: i'm not sure new is a proper adjective

15:34:57 benkay: adjectives aside, why?

15:35:00 rithm: to describe what is taking place

15:35:02 fluffypony: the last time rithm was serious Clinton was still in office

15:35:27 rithm: ok let's look at benkay I assume that's some amalgamation of your real world name

15:35:32 rithm: 100 assumption

15:36:08 benkay: i don't have time for socratic crap this morning.

15:36:17 benkay: are you distancing your afk name from your irc handle?

15:36:29 rithm: ok wel jcpham goes back along fucking ways i decided to no longer use it anymore

15:36:35 rithm: fuck the internet i'll do whatever i want

15:36:48 Mats_cd03: what a baller

15:36:56 benkay: what's the story with those -10's?

15:37:06 rithm: i pissed off the wrong scammer one day?

15:37:07 bitcoinpete: heya

15:37:13 rithm: all the supakilla accounts are mine too

15:37:15 benkay: oh, all scammer shit

15:37:20 rithm: do i need to confess to anything else

15:37:34 Mats_cd03: do you own altcoins

15:37:37 Apocalyptic: heh

15:37:45 Apocalyptic: he missed the doge boat

15:37:48 rithm: some doge and litecoin and abazillion XRP

15:37:51 rithm: next question

15:38:02 benkay: http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=supa // now that's p funny

15:38:03 assbot: Rating Details for User 'supa'

15:38:22 rithm: that guy sucks and tried to ruin a lot of ratings for no reasons

15:38:25 rithm: he still scams

15:38:28 bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ … kakobrekla ?

15:38:28 assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 13 hours ago

15:38:33 rithm: he's one of the "top 4 scammers"

15:38:37 Apocalyptic: yeah he does...

15:38:41 benkay: http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from:supa&start=120

15:38:42 assbot: from:supa

15:39:10 bitcoinpete: benkay: that's an insane number of -10s!

15:39:18 rithm: those -10's a re merit badges in my mind

15:40:13 rithm: also i named all my kids with the same initials

15:40:19 rithm: so jcpham making a comeback in 10 years

15:40:54 rithm: once jcpham learns to computer again

15:41:13 Mats_cd03: get your wife to change her name

15:41:23 rithm: she already did!

15:41:27 rithm: wham and i'm out

15:41:29 Mats_cd03: same initials?

15:42:51 Mats_cd03: reminds me of lyndon b johnson: wife is ladybird, daughters are lynda bird and luci baines

15:42:58 Mats_cd03: bunch of weirdos.

15:45:22 rithm: +1 rithm is weirdo

15:45:41 fluffypony: I thought rithm is a dancer?

15:45:54 Apocalyptic: rithm is all the things

15:45:55 rithm: rithm is the real fluffypony

15:46:05 fluffypony: rithm: as your GPG signed message proved :-P

15:46:08 rithm: all other ponies are immatators

15:46:19 fluffypony: so won't the real fluffypony please stand up

15:46:21 fluffypony: please stand up

15:46:22 fluffypony: please stand up

15:46:31 rithm: obv i knew how to use freeshell long before the kids

15:46:51 rithm: didn't try to hide very well though

15:47:25 rithm: so i usually find myself jealous of "fluffypony" "Apocalyptic"

15:48:09 rithm: many many many moons ago when tones still did stuff on phones

15:48:16 fluffypony: lol

15:48:17 rithm: there was a kid named rithm

15:48:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16150 @ 0.00080566 = 13.0114 BTC [-] {2}

15:48:26 fluffypony: and BO2k was the shit

15:48:33 rithm: rithm_phreak

15:48:44 rithm: but this was so long ago

15:48:50 rithm: it seems like another reality

15:49:27 rithm: so you know, i was like /nickserv info rithm

15:49:32 rithm: woohoo new nick done.

15:49:53 rithm: then i went to #freenode and got me cloak changed

15:50:03 bitcoinpete: benkay: the startle was from my intoxicating confidence. those poor girls hadn't the faintest clue where they went wrong.

15:50:04 rithm: the rest is history.

15:50:20 BingoBoingo: ;;rate rithm 1 weirdo

15:50:21 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user rithm has been recorded.

15:50:30 rithm: ty ty ty

15:51:07 rithm: it was a pain getting the allow mask changed on all the secret channels

15:51:59 rithm: are any of the mining based assets not "turds"

15:52:01 fluffypony: like #rithm ?

15:52:11 rithm: or is the mining turd still prevalent

15:52:33 fluffypony: rithm: no, the mining assets are all turds - many are outright scams, the rest are USD profitable and not BTC profitable

15:52:36 fluffypony: a few have managed to get lucky

15:53:13 bitcoinpete: ;;later tell kakobrekla on the costa rica bet, http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 was made around 55' mark of the game. the team clinched after the final whistle was blown at 90+4'. Granted, this is close. But how close is too close in world cup betting?

15:53:13 assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 14 hours ago

15:53:13 gribble: The operation succeeded.

15:53:24 rithm: #bitcoin-rithm is where we spin-the-bottle and decide if Willy trends up or down

15:53:54 rithm: BTC profitable usually involves arbitration and a lot of liquidity

15:54:00 rithm: asicminer you used to be able to play in

15:54:08 rithm: USD profitable is a joke.

15:54:45 fluffypony: exactly

15:54:51 fluffypony: might as well just sit on your Bitcoin

15:55:45 rithm: mmmhmmm

15:55:53 rithm: or dollar cst average and buy it

15:59:30 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 32657 @ 0.00079973 = 26.1168 BTC [-] {3}

16:00:23 xmj: fluffypony: did you get my sms?

16:00:31 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.MINE] [PAID] 1.78533443 BTC to 9`559 shares, 18677 satoshi per share

16:05:18 benkay: bitcoinpete: i'm looking forward to my 10year

16:05:38 bitcoinpete: this was basically mine

16:05:44 bitcoinpete: though highly impromptu

16:05:48 bitcoinpete: it was better for it

16:06:04 bitcoinpete: less pretense, less expectation

16:06:20 bitcoinpete: more impact

16:06:24 benkay: gonna rent a trabamborghini

16:06:25 mircea_popescu: !up _flow_

16:06:32 benkay: and a roflcopter

16:07:11 bitcoinpete: is the roflcopter big enough to carry the trambo to the party?

16:07:47 mircea_popescu: could be a lolbambo

16:07:53 mircea_popescu: mix everything

16:08:12 asciilifeform: lulzerati

16:08:19 mircea_popescu: hahaha

16:08:35 mircea_popescu: WE ARE TEH LULZERATI

16:08:39 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 15061 @ 0.00079972 = 12.0446 BTC [+]

16:08:42 bitcoinpete: as long as it's hilariously italian lol

16:08:48 mircea_popescu: we control the derpitudinal and the herpiginal

16:09:03 mircea_popescu: or wahs it herpical

16:09:07 benkay: hm maybe i'll duct tape the trabamborghini to the roflcopter and float to the con

16:09:28 benkay: although there *is* a dock, i could always take the derpmarine

16:09:42 bitcoinpete: the lulz that bind should obviate the need for tape

16:10:23 mircea_popescu: btw i just got a message from the high council of the darkerati legolas of the something or the other, i forget (it was properly inside a dildo impaled in the cloaca of a messenger crow tho, so there's no doubt as to authenticity)

16:10:34 mircea_popescu: apparently we have to pick our colors for bitcoin-assets

16:10:57 mircea_popescu: so what we do, pink-and-yellow ?

16:12:02 benkay: silver and red for maximum migrane factor

16:12:20 mircea_popescu: i think that's purple and purple

16:13:06 ThickAsThieves: i just logged in to say purple

16:13:13 mircea_popescu: AHAHA

16:13:15 mircea_popescu: epic beaten

16:13:19 ThickAsThieves: we are royalty after all

16:13:26 BingoBoingo: http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473

16:13:27 assbot: FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja documentation, you can h

16:13:29 mircea_popescu: speak for yourself. i'm self made.

16:13:30 ThickAsThieves: gotta be that shade that doesnt exist anymore too

16:13:59 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves beetlejuice purple ?

16:14:01 ThickAsThieves: made from the winds of extinct dragonflies or whatever

16:14:05 ThickAsThieves: wings*

16:14:15 mircea_popescu: dude, if it were made from the winds...

16:14:22 mircea_popescu: either farts or wing turbulence.

16:14:26 ThickAsThieves: lol

16:14:40 ThickAsThieves: what are your colors? oh, nothing unusual, wind

16:14:49 mircea_popescu: we sound pretty wicca.

16:15:03 BingoBoingo: Eh, why not just use a couple thousand shades of purple arranged such that no two splotches have a delta greater than 3

16:15:15 mircea_popescu: our colors are wind and that shot of pain urmom felt that one time.

16:16:02 BingoBoingo: Picking colors I think the priority should be, what would be the biggest pain in nubbins` ass...

16:16:29 ThickAsThieves: deep blues are the hardest

16:16:36 mircea_popescu: Mr. Brown: Lemme tell you what 'Like a Virgin' is about. It's all about this cooze who's a regular fuck machine, I'm talking morning, day, night, afternoon, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick, dick. Then one day she meets this John Holmes motherfucker and it's like, whoa baby, I mean this cat is like Charles Bronson in the 'Great Escape', he's digging tunnels. Now, she's gettin' the serious dick action and

16:16:36 mircea_popescu: she's feeling something she ain't felt since forever. Pain. Pain. It hurts her. It shouldn't hurt her, you know, her pussy should be Bubble Yum by now, but when this cat fucks her it hurts. It hurts just like it did the first time. You see the pain is reminding a fuck machine what it once was like to be a virgin. Hence, 'Like a Virgin'.

16:16:41 ThickAsThieves: to get them blue without being purple is hard

16:17:08 mircea_popescu: cymk process sucks huh.

16:17:12 ThickAsThieves: yep

16:17:20 ThickAsThieves: solvent ink has higher gamut

16:17:27 ThickAsThieves: and if he screenprints it, any color is easy

16:17:53 ThickAsThieves: i dont think he does offset

16:18:01 ThickAsThieves: otherwise

16:18:21 ThickAsThieves: what's getting printed anyway?

16:18:23 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: is it still too late to get trackign added? <<< ahahaha no dude, it was too late before, but we've been doing -t for a while so now it's too early

16:18:24 mircea_popescu: o.O

16:18:57 HeySteve: hi mircea_popescu, I'd like to talk about F.DERP now if that's convenient

16:19:01 mircea_popescu: shoot.

16:19:17 HeySteve: ok the companies concerned are BitPay and BitGo?

16:19:43 mircea_popescu: so far, yes.

16:20:03 mircea_popescu: mthreat http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=tits+from%3Amircea+haslink%3Atrue << ok that shit's epic.

16:20:04 assbot: tits from:mircea haslink:true

16:20:18 HeySteve: ok from the original post (checking for new ones) I take it the reasoning is that they're overvalued?

16:20:53 mircea_popescu: well, more properly put, the reasoning is that they will never make in the course of their business enough money to pay back that round of investment.

16:21:33 mircea_popescu: so someone with 30mn looking to invest in bitcoin would have been better served by buying bitcoin than participating in the series a.

16:21:54 mircea_popescu: this, of course, is a very old story : with the exception of mpex listed corps, it is universally true of any other exchange or broad group.

16:22:04 mircea_popescu: be it glbse or us based vc investments.

16:22:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13700 @ 0.00080808 = 11.0707 BTC [+]

16:22:55 HeySteve: I don't know much about BitGo honestly, but it seems the success of BitPay is very closely linked with Bitcoin's success. doesn't that make this something of a bet against Bitcoin's continued merchant adoption?

16:23:29 mircea_popescu: the success of bitpay has exactly zero to do with the success of bitcoin, is the problem.

16:23:45 mircea_popescu: they're trying to leech it, which only works for so long. what's worse, their burn rate is killing them.

16:24:26 thestringpuller: hahahaha

16:24:34 HeySteve: ok it sounds like you've taken a very close look into their financials. could you explain what you mean by burn rate?

16:24:36 asciilifeform: 'bitpay' is to btc use is as 'wine' (winblows emulation gizmo) is to the use of linux.

16:24:49 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller: lol bitcoin-assets will develop irc tools that will give irccloud a run for their money... << will ? seriously ? show me irc tools that can compare.

16:24:52 ThickAsThieves: bitpay also has to worry about someone like PayPal coming in "Thanks for warming our seat!"

16:25:02 mircea_popescu: HeySteve burn rate is a common concept in start-ups

16:25:07 mircea_popescu: the rate at which they spend money.

16:25:15 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: what if I change will to is?

16:25:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform aptly put, i would say.

16:25:23 mircea_popescu: thestringpuller deal.

16:25:34 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves precisely. no barrier to entry

16:25:40 mircea_popescu: coinbase is already moving into that, with no difficulty.

16:25:55 mircea_popescu: of course, coinbase is a piece of shit, but there';s no requirement that next competitor is also a piece of shit

16:26:25 HeySteve: any plans to add further companies?

16:26:37 ThickAsThieves: bitpay/coinbase only chance is landing exclusive contracts with poor terms for the merchant (still a leech job)

16:26:54 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: what kind of gullible fuck pays to bang a virgin? << if you pay to fuck in general, why not.

16:27:08 mircea_popescu: HeySteve yes, as mentioned in the article. any corps that make bold claims in the future will go in there.

16:27:17 Mats_cd03: it'd be boring, thats why.

16:27:23 ThickAsThieves: this is why they brag and compete over new notable merchants, it's all they have - those contract terms

16:27:32 BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Bitpay is sponsoring a fucking bowl game. They probably spent ~10% of their last round on a notoriously poor form of advertising.

16:27:33 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 the guy's own money! he can spend it any old way he wants!

16:27:50 Mats_cd03: indeed

16:27:53 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves a business model based on tricking people isn't a good match for ipo anyway

16:28:04 mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo forced mistakes.

16:28:08 HeySteve: BingoBoingo, yeah I saw that... will it at least be seen on national TV?

16:28:11 ThickAsThieves: i dont mind BitPay though, they are taking one for the team

16:28:19 ThickAsThieves: go ahead an advertise the shit outta bitcoin

16:28:23 ThickAsThieves: their loss, our gain

16:28:36 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves i don't mind them either, honestly, but a) people found out about gallippi's past, and generally, the thing's coming apart. gotta cut them loose.

16:28:50 BingoBoingo: HeySteve: It will be on ESPN with the fifty or so other bowl games that happen in december

16:28:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 18 @ 0.05003824 = 0.9007 BTC [-] {3}

16:30:02 HeySteve: so is to correct to F.DERP as a hedge fund?

16:30:06 mircea_popescu: dub:heh, -assets doxxes NSA two weeks before snowden << ain't history a wunderbar thing :D

16:30:22 mircea_popescu: HeySteve yeah, i suppose it would be.

16:30:48 HeySteve: right, and BitGo, what is the reasoning behind including them?

16:30:55 ThickAsThieves: i dunno, it's kinda a sad hedge, being that those companies are relying on bitcoin

16:30:56 mircea_popescu: bitcoin shit is weird by nature, but hedge fund generally means "this pool of money doing exotic shit"

16:31:13 mircea_popescu: HeySteve that they announced a 10mn round. from the article :

16:31:42 mircea_popescu: For everyi Series A / seed funding announced by the circlejerk that is either in excess of 1 million USD or for a company valued through such funding over 100 million USD, I will create a synthetic asset on MPEx.

16:31:55 mircea_popescu: http://fraudsters.com/2014/introducing-the-d-series/

16:31:56 assbot: Introducing the D. series pe fraudsters - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.

16:32:17 HeySteve: ah ha

16:32:48 HeySteve: so it's decided purely on their funding?

16:32:51 BingoBoingo: HeySteve: Here's last year's line up of bowl games. http://espn.go.com/college-football/bowls

16:32:52 assbot: College Bowl Games - 2013-14 College Bowl Game Scores and Schedules - ESPN

16:33:01 mircea_popescu: cazalla: little to contribute, much to learn - how does that sit with others who have come to that realisation here? << i just try to pretend it's philosophy :D

16:33:03 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 4000 @ 0.00080808 = 3.2323 BTC [+]

16:33:07 ThickAsThieves: someone needs to make sure these VCs know about your offer, they can haz MOAR BitPay

16:33:08 mircea_popescu: HeySteve on their alleged funding, yes.

16:33:25 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves by the set of lawsuit threats i would guess they know.

16:33:31 ThickAsThieves: nice

16:33:40 ThickAsThieves: on what grounds?

16:33:48 ThickAsThieves: you said our name in a thing!

16:33:52 mircea_popescu: uh... believe it or not, mostly sec regulation

16:34:04 ThickAsThieves: i see

16:34:13 mircea_popescu: funny how blinders work, you know ? these people have... finance lawyers. who went to school and lived in a pond

16:34:22 mircea_popescu: what do you mean this guy could not care less ? that is not possible ?

16:34:44 HeySteve: well... it seems many startups are raking in king's ransoms just because there's a lot of enthusiasm around Bitcoin... so by shorting, you are risking exposure to these kind of bubbles?

16:35:05 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 2560 @ 0.00080902 = 2.0711 BTC [+]

16:35:07 mircea_popescu: yes. can you name people that got rich in the dot com bubble ?

16:35:19 mircea_popescu: name a dozen, then see what % did it by shorting it.

16:35:33 HeySteve: hmm many got rich then poor in quick succession

16:35:42 HeySteve: few were wise enough to sell or short at the top

16:35:44 mircea_popescu: (and i don't mean "were briefly rich during the bubble". i mean "are rich today and were not before that")

16:35:47 ThickAsThieves: sounds like these bitcoin company CEOs

16:36:24 mircea_popescu: Namworld: Getting there slowly. << what's your horizon, next year like ?

16:36:28 HeySteve: I think mostly the guys who sold their companies during the mania made out like bandits

16:36:35 HeySteve: investors not so much

16:36:37 mircea_popescu: so the guys who... SHORTED IT

16:36:38 ThickAsThieves: i dont think the btc startup bubble will be nearly as bad

16:36:48 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves bet ?

16:36:57 ThickAsThieves: in dollars

16:37:01 mircea_popescu: fu :D

16:37:01 HeySteve: I hear what you're saying, the art is in the timing

16:37:05 ThickAsThieves: hehe

16:37:17 ThickAsThieves: what i mean is,

16:37:27 mircea_popescu: HeySteve no timing involved. if you sell your corp in the bubble and walk away you shorted the bubble.

16:37:35 ThickAsThieves: i think the need to buy bitocin in addition to any VC investment related to a bitcoin co is obvious

16:37:41 ThickAsThieves: and thus theyll all do it

16:37:44 ThickAsThieves: and save some skin

16:37:45 mircea_popescu: obvious, to whom.

16:37:57 HeySteve: mircea_popescu yes in a sense, I know a guy who was offered a fortune for his finance site but held on

16:37:59 ThickAsThieves: tony

16:38:00 ThickAsThieves: barry

16:38:02 ThickAsThieves: etc

16:38:04 mircea_popescu: stuff like f.derp is MAKING it obvious

16:38:07 mircea_popescu: but no, it's not obvious.

16:38:13 ThickAsThieves: maybe youre right

16:38:15 mircea_popescu: HeySteve is he rich ?

16:38:17 ThickAsThieves: it wasnt always obvious to me

16:38:25 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves never estimate just how lemming-like finance types are/.

16:38:27 mircea_popescu: it can't be done.

16:38:44 HeySteve: mircea_popescu, he's very comfortable I'd say, retired now, but he could have been loaded

16:38:47 mircea_popescu: that's the one profession that most selects for lemming qualities. more so than military even

16:38:53 mircea_popescu: HeySteve mkay.

16:39:02 HeySteve: yeah moneyweb.co.za if you're interested

16:39:21 HeySteve: mircea_popescu, any similar products to F.DERP which you're aware of?

16:39:30 ThickAsThieves: cuz all the accountibility leads to all these illusions of predicting things

16:39:43 mircea_popescu: punkman: they just called 3 times to sell me a new ISP << they call my phone here too. to sell me... comcast and shit.

16:40:09 mircea_popescu: HeySteve not really. i don't think the world has spawned yet such an asshole so as to be able to match with me.

16:40:24 asciilifeform: comcast in Ar ?!

16:40:30 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have no fucking idea.

16:41:01 ThickAsThieves: mp can you use your power to break comcast?

16:41:03 HeySteve: mircea_popescu heh some people probably won't appreciate this fund, but it expands an investor's options so I don't see the downside

16:41:05 mircea_popescu: but daily call logs have at the end : "spam - comcast, netflix, pizzahut" etc

16:41:05 ThickAsThieves: thx

16:41:24 mircea_popescu: HeySteve the downside is that it sinks the hype, which is a very major problem.

16:41:26 asciilifeform: u.s. phone extension ?

16:41:31 mircea_popescu: the entire vc circuit lives out of hype.

16:41:54 mircea_popescu: so in their perspective, this is a disaster of commons sort of situation : a bunch of people work to inflate bubbles, all it takes to ruin theireffort is one guy with a pin

16:42:23 mircea_popescu: 11-6542-5529

16:42:36 rithm: yeah lemming-like

16:42:43 mircea_popescu: o hay josh

16:42:57 rithm: there's a certain judge and we just (not i) a suborndinate installed his new computer

16:43:03 rithm: ira balances laying out

16:43:09 rithm: checking out balances laying about

16:43:14 rithm: no personal security

16:43:18 HeySteve: mircea_popescu, why not just create futures or some other instruments over these companies, which could be traded long or short?

16:43:20 rithm: howdy mircea

16:43:31 mircea_popescu: punkman1 lol who's popeofdope ?

16:44:14 mircea_popescu: HeySteve too much hassle with future chains. if you want them short you buy f.derp, if you want them long you just get to select d.whatever

16:44:21 mircea_popescu: this because logically nobody who wants them short cares which

16:44:37 mircea_popescu: whereas people wanting them long prolly want to stock pick

16:45:10 ThickAsThieves: btw ive been sending some traders to check out bitbet, hopefully some stick

16:45:15 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23300 @ 0.00080902 = 18.8502 BTC [+]

16:45:25 ThickAsThieves: the SR auction is the talk of the town

16:45:27 HeySteve: mircea_popescu ok and you say these are synthetic instruments... this means you don't own or have borrowed any shares in the companies?

16:45:28 mircea_popescu: any by sent you mean referral ?

16:45:33 ThickAsThieves: yes

16:45:39 ThickAsThieves: but also verbal chatting up

16:45:44 mircea_popescu: HeySteve not directly.

16:45:50 mircea_popescu: ThickAsThieves nice.

16:46:24 mircea_popescu: assbot: Canadian woman who stopped car to help ducks faces life in jail after causing fatal crash - Telegraph << hallellujah.

16:46:49 ThickAsThieves: commenters saying i stole the bet wording! slander

16:46:51 mircea_popescu: pankkake: and of course Goat is on every bitcoin scam apparently << he just pumps them.

16:46:57 mircea_popescu: i was wondering where's pankkake

16:47:03 HeySteve: ok thanks, I think that covers it. I have written up some pre-amble then will add these lines verbatim apart from adding capitalisation and punctuation. will ask if any further questions come up.

16:47:11 mircea_popescu: no problem.

16:47:18 asciilifeform: http://www.halfbakery.com/idea/Moneytoilet_2ecom

16:47:18 assbot: Halfbakery: Moneytoilet.com

16:47:31 rithm: http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/06/19/tally-of-cyber-extortion-attacks-on-tech-companies-grows/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=1&

16:47:37 rithm: what a long url

16:47:54 mircea_popescu: ?_php=true

16:47:56 mircea_popescu: now that's epic.

16:48:00 mthreat: and twice

16:48:04 mthreat: in case the first one didn't work

16:48:09 rithm: hey i just copied and pasted it

16:48:10 mircea_popescu: shouldn't it be ?___php====true ?

16:48:18 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 25500 @ 0.00080808 = 20.606 BTC [-]

16:48:44 assbot: Last 7 lines bashed and pending review. ( http://dpaste.com/0B8VQ7Q.txt )

16:48:44 mircea_popescu: !b 7

16:48:51 HeySteve: Dogecoin getting copyright trolled - "Ultra Pro International, a case and sleeve company, announced plans to trademark the word “Doge.”"

16:49:18 mircea_popescu: they never tm'd it ?

16:49:19 mircea_popescu: not possible.

16:49:36 HeySteve: http://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/news/dogecoin-users-outraged-trademark/2014/06/23

16:49:36 assbot: Dogecoin Users Outraged Over Trademark

16:49:49 mircea_popescu: awww lol

16:49:53 rithm: it _was_ a ripoff of another alt, so they might have overlooked that purposefully

16:49:59 rithm: or still is

16:50:08 mircea_popescu: HeySteve o wait, were you with the one crypto news site i kinda liked ?

16:50:09 mthreat: there are "Caffe del Doge" in buenos aires

16:50:15 rithm: kaynecoin sued though

16:50:20 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 12000 @ 0.00080808 = 9.697 BTC [-]

16:50:29 HeySteve: yeah mircea_popescu, the one I linked to above

16:50:36 mircea_popescu: cool

16:50:40 mircea_popescu: ;;gettrust HeySteve

16:50:41 gribble: Currently authenticated from hostmask HeySteve!HeySteve@unaffiliated/heysteve. Trust relationship from user mircea_popescu to user HeySteve: Level 1: 0, Level 2: 3 via 2 connections. Graph: http://b-otc.com/stg?source=mircea_popescu&dest=HeySteve | WoT data: http://b-otc.com/vrd?nick=HeySteve | Rated since: Sat Apr 12 02:49:55 2014

16:50:48 rithm: yeah i stumbled on someone from this channel's blog last night accidentally

16:51:03 mircea_popescu: ;;rate HeySteve 1 cryptocoinsnews reporter.

16:51:04 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 1 for user HeySteve has been recorded.

16:51:42 HeySteve: cool I should rate you also, plus quite a few others

16:52:07 mircea_popescu: who's the admin there ?

16:52:20 HeySteve: David Parker (alias)

16:52:46 mircea_popescu: well tell him to drop by sometime, maybe we make an advertising deal ?

16:52:47 mike_c: i broke it. http://search.bitcoin-assets.com/?q=from%3Amircea+*derp

16:53:03 HeySteve: cool mircea_popescu, I'll let him know

16:53:07 mircea_popescu: mike_c blank page ?

16:53:11 mike_c: yeah

16:53:35 mircea_popescu: o o i thought you meant you broke som,e story

16:53:40 mircea_popescu: had press language space loaded

16:53:45 mike_c: hehe

16:53:52 mthreat: mircea_popescu: suffix searches ("*derp") don't work

16:54:01 mthreat: oops, that was meant for mike_c

16:54:30 mike_c: well, i was trying to search for "f.derp", but seems it didn't like the period

16:54:40 HeySteve: ;;rate mircea_popescu 2 runs MPEx, involved in Bitcoin for ages

16:54:42 gribble: Rating entry successful. Your rating of 2 for user mircea_popescu has been recorded.

16:54:50 nubbins`: Mats_cd03: can do, but shipping would be the killer. better to get it done locally

16:55:10 mthreat: mike_c: f.derp matches 3 results

16:55:37 mike_c: that feels unlikely. mircea never said f.derp?

16:55:55 mircea_popescu: i must've

16:56:06 mthreat: mike_c: can be verified by clicking the result link to the log

16:56:54 mike_c: maybe he didn't! is assbot not indexed?

16:56:56 mircea_popescu: kakobrekla: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/bitbetus/internet/bitbetus-Is-something-you-should-really-AVOID-1155798 << do you want to bother and CD them ?

16:56:57 assbot: Ripoff Report | bitbet.us Complaint Review Internet: 1155798

16:57:06 mircea_popescu: im kinda inclined to ignore

16:58:15 thestringpuller: mike_c: are you gonna charge for btc-alpha one day?

16:58:17 Apocalyptic: "I made a deposit and started to play. The games were a little glitch, especially Blackjack" // huh

16:58:29 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic ransom site.

16:58:30 mthreat: mike_c: assbot is indexed. add "isbot:true" or "isbot:false" to include only bots, or remove them, respectively.

16:59:26 nubbins`: http://www.duhaimelaw.com/2014/06/22/canada-implements-worlds-first-national-bitcoin-law/

16:59:26 assbot: » Canada implements world’s first national Bitcoin law Duhaime Law

16:59:50 Apocalyptic: mircea, I don't get it

17:00:15 mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic you knopw what revenge pornsites are ?

17:00:35 mircea_popescu: nubbins` does it say anything interesting ?

17:00:39 Apocalyptic: yeah

17:01:19 mircea_popescu: same principle.

17:01:50 nubbins`: dealing in "virtual currencies" subject to AML regs, must register with FINTRAC, banks are prohibited from opening accounts for dealers who aren't registered

17:01:59 mike_c: mthreat: got it. thanks. very cool page.

17:02:44 mike_c: thestringpuller: i'm more likely to pay people to read it than to charge :)

17:03:01 mike_c: but no, i don't really expect to ever charge.

17:03:12 nubbins`: essentially what cavirtex ceo suggested in senate heatings :D

17:03:14 nubbins`: hearings, even

17:03:58 mircea_popescu: mike_c srlsy ?!

17:04:27 mircea_popescu: nubbins` sucks for canada.

17:04:30 mike_c: srlsy no charge? yeah. it's a loss leader.

17:05:10 mike_c: what's the point of charging? if i ever want to make some pennies i'll toss up a BB affiliate ad.

17:05:33 mike_c: not like i have all of romania reading it or anything.

17:05:35 mircea_popescu: i c.

17:06:18 mike_c: ThickAsThieves: you see my comment the other day about altcoin-seeder?

17:07:29 bitcoinpete: nubbins`: not entirely unexpected regs

17:07:45 bitcoinpete: really just focusing on >$10k transactions

17:07:47 jurov: nubbins` ThickAsThieves pankkake etc... you're to cease and desist using mpex/coinbr before the PCMLTFA takes comes into effect

17:08:25 mircea_popescu: wait what

17:08:42 jurov: >:D

17:09:07 jurov: oh TAT is not canadian sry... but hes hould have stopped long ago anyway

17:09:33 jurov: and nubs too...

17:09:54 BingoBoingo: Wait pankkake is canadian nao too?

17:10:05 mike_c: candian, french, not much difference

17:12:17 BingoBoingo: ;;bc,stats

17:12:20 gribble: Current Blocks: 307400 | Current Difficulty: 1.346258011452534E10 | Next Difficulty At Block: 308447 | Next Difficulty In: 1047 blocks | Next Difficulty In About: 6 days, 12 hours, 4 minutes, and 28 seconds | Next Difficulty Estimate: 16247789840.5 | Estimated Percent Change: 20.68853

17:12:39 benkay: <BingoBoingo> http://paulford.kinja.com/wait-we-didnt-have-a-cms-team-1593914473 // i'm dying over here

17:12:39 assbot: FOR THE LOVE OF CONTENT MANAGEMENT I AM GOING TO LEARN ABOUT KINJA which apparently has headline limits in length no actually it just has a counter regarding headline length and it's unclear exactly how long headlines can be and if they can be really long or not, but one thing is clear and that is that headlines can't have italics anyway this headline [oh no according to Twitter, which is apparently where you go for Kinja documentation, you can h

17:13:10 BingoBoingo: benkay: Wait till you get to the comments

17:18:08 *: jurov saves http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--lfD7I_3I--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/776348485761937325.jpg

17:18:11 benkay: " but as we formalize our road map, we're formalizing the teams working on those buckets."

17:18:20 benkay: yeah that one's great, eh jurov ?

17:18:25 benkay: "product vision"

17:18:56 benkay: sent that to a guy i know over at ebay mobile whose "vision quest to set the visual style fo ebay mobile" has been relegated to the...ipad app.

17:18:59 mike_c: lol. jurov, that image will definitely be useful in the future.

17:24:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 56 @ 0.04613001 = 2.5833 BTC [-] {3}

17:27:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.19180002 = 1.918 BTC [-] {3}

17:28:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 10 @ 0.18900001 = 1.89 BTC [-]

17:28:59 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 156 @ 0.04498717 = 7.018 BTC [-] {6}

17:38:07 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 23 @ 0.044 = 1.012 BTC [-]

17:40:09 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 20 @ 0.188 = 3.76 BTC [-] {2}

17:55:24 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 149 @ 0.04144478 = 6.1753 BTC [-] {11}

18:03:32 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.186 = 0.558 BTC [-] {2}

18:03:52 fluffypony: sweet!

18:03:55 fluffypony: in-flight wifi ftw

18:04:04 fluffypony: lol @ upload speed - http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3581385036

18:04:04 assbot: Speedtest.net by Ookla - My Results

18:04:05 mircea_popescu: wd.

18:07:23 penguirker: New blog post: http://fraudsters.com/2014/ransomware/

18:09:38 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 5 @ 0.19987652 = 0.9994 BTC [+] {3}

18:12:04 mircea_popescu: !up jaycutler6969

18:13:15 asciilifeform: re: link: mircea_popescu and i must be the last people alive using 'squirrelmail'

18:13:24 mircea_popescu: fluffypony: it'll either be fun, or batshit insane << ahaha srsly, going to the tortilla conference ?!

18:13:32 mircea_popescu: please to liveblog.

18:13:38 fluffypony: oh I will ;)

18:13:47 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform why ? it works just fine

18:13:52 asciilifeform: aye, it does

18:14:05 thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: It has electrolytes, it's what plants crave.

18:14:12 mircea_popescu: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BqvoRETCQAEr9-L.jpg << somebody's got plans.

18:14:13 fluffypony: I love that movie

18:15:32 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'd love to see how these folks intend to paint india without triggering nuke 'test'

18:15:47 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03: bet its like ~1100 cals har har << i once had 1800 calories in a single sundae. whatever, it's my hot body and i do what i want!

18:16:10 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nazis took over pappen's govt right ?

18:16:19 mircea_popescu: "without a single pane of glass being broken"

18:16:28 mircea_popescu: as a certain short ignoramus was fond of pointing out

18:17:12 mircea_popescu: rithm: this 2 factor voice just makes me want to stalk and watch everyone << kinda the point

18:17:39 rithm: do you know when i close my irc chat window

18:17:56 rithm: i feel watched

18:17:59 mircea_popescu: lol

18:19:16 mircea_popescu: benkay: are you distancing your afk name from your irc handle? << he didn';t scam anyone afaik.

18:20:03 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete: wondering who did the admin for http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/ << why ?

18:20:03 assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 16 hours ago

18:21:50 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 14 @ 0.04510001 = 0.6314 BTC [-]

18:23:07 rithm: did i scam anyone? no.

18:23:28 rithm: the only person to successfully scam me has perjured himself in court and is fighting the SEC

18:23:39 mircea_popescu: who's this ?

18:23:44 mircea_popescu: pirate ?

18:23:45 rithm: blow me.

18:23:47 rithm: yes

18:23:48 mircea_popescu: lol

18:23:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 32 @ 0.0451 = 1.4432 BTC [-]

18:24:02 mircea_popescu: i wonder if search finds the more than a car thing lessee

18:24:07 rithm: the jimmy buffet dude

18:24:23 mircea_popescu: rithm was that convo here or in onepercent ?

18:24:23 rithm: perspective is everything

18:24:41 rithm: i think more than car, less than a house was here

18:24:47 rithm: or pm maybe

18:25:02 mircea_popescu: nah i don't do pm with dubious characters

18:25:19 rithm: i can send you copies of your if you'd like

18:25:23 rithm: pm's i have

18:25:32 rithm: not full channels

18:25:39 mircea_popescu: me too.

18:25:43 mircea_popescu: i log when logged.

18:25:44 rithm: sneaky bastard

18:26:24 rithm: i hope you didn't log that sonic dematerializer conversation

18:26:26 rithm: i was so drunk

18:26:45 mircea_popescu: so maliki is going to end up hanged ?

18:28:17 rithm: i'm not sure who maliki is but it sounds vaguely religious so i'll just ignore it

18:29:12 TomServo: Iraqi PM

18:29:19 TomServo: Soon to be former, evidently

18:29:46 mircea_popescu: no cause kerry is violently supporting him :D

18:29:51 kakobrekla: ;;later tell bitcoinpete did you get the answer?

18:29:52 gribble: The operation succeeded.

18:30:00 kakobrekla: mircea_popescu hm? compact disc them?

18:30:09 mircea_popescu: cease and dessist

18:30:33 kakobrekla: meh

18:30:40 mircea_popescu: myeah.

18:30:45 kakobrekla: there will be plenty of those irrelevant of what we do

18:30:48 mircea_popescu: i just wrote a good and serious article

18:30:50 FabianB: $trades

18:30:52 mircea_popescu: as pankkake observed

18:31:32 FabianB: $traded

18:31:32 empyex: FabianB: Traded in last 24 hours: S.MPOE X.EUR

18:32:57 Mats_cd03: maliki is going to end up living in london

18:33:11 mircea_popescu: bet ?

18:33:23 Mats_cd03: sending his kids to oxford and the like

18:34:14 Mats_cd03: ok, terms? whether he lives out the year?

18:34:55 mircea_popescu: what year.

18:35:08 Mats_cd03: 23jun2015

18:35:40 mircea_popescu: if by august 15h maliki has been hanged in the middle east, bet resolves as yes. if he's living in lonon, bet resolves as no. otherwise, bet cancels.

18:36:01 asciilifeform: isn't this 'badbet'?

18:36:11 asciilifeform: or can we bet on any hanging now

18:36:16 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what assasin ever hangs anyone ?

18:36:21 mircea_popescu: it'd be a penal proceeding

18:36:47 mircea_popescu: not likely that someone sneaks into baghdad and surrepitiously hangs the pm

18:36:59 asciilifeform: didn't they hang that btc exchange chick in Sg ?

18:37:16 mircea_popescu: what ?!

18:37:27 asciilifeform: the one found in apartment lobby with rope marks

18:37:38 mircea_popescu: ok, publicly hanged

18:37:43 asciilifeform: ah ok

18:37:45 rithm: iraq is shitshow

18:37:52 rithm: a big hole some moron threw money into

18:38:12 asciilifeform: it's +EV for the folks in charge of the show

18:38:13 Mats_cd03: 300M morons.

18:38:21 asciilifeform: (u.s. firms who get to churn inventory)

18:38:42 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 moar like 1-2 bn

18:39:09 Mats_cd03: hows that

18:39:13 rithm: not sure why i tried to some singular entity but it feels nice to do

18:39:28 rithm: *blame

18:39:35 rithm: i accidentally a word

18:40:02 mircea_popescu: Mats_cd03 maybe we're talking at xpurposes, was your 300mn the total money thrown in the hole ?

18:40:12 *: asciilifeform dreamt last night that he was to be hanged, but couldn't afford to pay for the roap and the grease - so was sent home to save up.

18:40:44 Mats_cd03: nah us population

18:41:05 mircea_popescu: a

18:41:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "i was sentenced to hang but i ated it"

18:42:02 kakobrekla: grease?

18:42:18 mike_c: tar and feather before hanging

18:42:33 kakobrekla: a.

18:57:25 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 42769 @ 0.00080389 = 34.3816 BTC [+] {3}

18:58:34 benkay: mircea_popescu: when do we get 2year bitbets?

18:58:50 Mats_cd03: proposal submitted, waiting on jurov to clear funds

18:59:10 mircea_popescu: benkay the day you're ready to zerconf 1k btc for a 2 year bet.

19:00:51 jurov: Mats_cd03: which proposal? maybe i can add onto it

19:02:30 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04527103 = 0.5433 BTC [+]

19:03:26 Mats_cd03: Maliki is hanged

19:04:22 benkay: mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything?

19:08:36 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 8212 @ 0.00080261 = 6.591 BTC [-]

19:09:48 benkay: mircea_popescu: "oppinion" on ransomware

19:15:20 bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: no, didn't get the answer

19:15:50 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: because http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2014#729957 ...

19:15:51 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

19:16:15 bitcoinpete: curious what the cut-off is on bitbets for future reference

19:16:33 bitcoinpete: 1 hr before they can possibly by resolved? 6 hrs?

19:17:25 bitcoinpete: i completely understand that betting after an event has occurred, even if the bet is still "open" warrants a simple refund less admin fee

19:17:58 bitcoinpete: but there's an undefined (to me) grey area prior to that point

19:18:17 bitcoinpete: i've little doubt that this has arisen before

19:18:35 bitcoinpete: i'm just not familiar with the sop

19:18:39 mike_c: ^ this is also applicable to the "in-game betting" conversation from the other day

19:18:51 bitcoinpete: right

19:18:57 bitcoinpete: that's the scenario here

19:19:24 bitcoinpete: i don't recall, was there a consensus following that conversation?

19:19:51 mike_c: well, the consensus was to do it and all the world cup expiration dates were moved out.

19:20:34 mike_c: you can probably dig it up with the fancy new search tool.

19:21:33 bitcoinpete: thanks be to mthreat

19:22:44 nubbins`: http://i.imgur.com/FxQz6tB.gif

19:23:13 kakobrekla: bitcoinpete i dun think theres any hardcoded rule, mods call it and then you can bitch about it here

19:23:50 mircea_popescu: <benkay> mircea_popescu: what do zeroconfs have to do with anything? << bitbet is a business, eh ? ran for profit.

19:24:05 mircea_popescu: &ty

19:24:06 gribble: Error: "ty" is not a valid command.

19:25:35 mircea_popescu: lolk

19:26:30 thestringpuller: free chily!

19:26:54 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 7 @ 0.1999 = 1.3993 BTC [+]

19:27:55 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 4 @ 0.2 = 0.8 BTC [+]

19:32:10 thestringpuller: ;;ud stack cheddar

19:32:11 gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=stack%20cheddar | Nov 9, 2007 ... Download the Free App! 1. stack cheddar. To make lots of money. Hustlin. "Get on your grind son. Stack cheddar." by Mooner November 09, ...

19:32:43 benkay: isn't PKI a nsa plant?

19:32:43 thestringpuller: Or "Mircea Popescu be stackin' cheddar"

19:33:41 kakobrekla: >>FUCK YOU BITFINEX YOU FILTHY FRONT RUNNING FAKE VOLUME THIEVING FUCKING FRENCH CUNTS! WHERE WAS THE 50 BTC ORDER THAT WAS RIGHT BEHIND MY FUCKING STOP LOSS YOU FUCKING ROBBING RAT BASTARDS!"

19:33:42 kakobrekla: lol

19:33:47 kakobrekla: they arent even french.

19:34:09 mircea_popescu: lmao

19:34:38 mircea_popescu: "o no, we know better than mp, let's use scam sites"

19:34:47 mircea_popescu: "o shit we got robbed by a scamsite HURRRRR"

19:34:47 kakobrekla: mhm

19:35:15 davout: kakobrekla: the owner is!

19:35:25 bitcoinpete: sorry, was just having a bite on the patio here at the mac

19:35:37 kakobrekla: oh? i thought it was asians.

19:35:51 mircea_popescu: some idiot frenchman was involvedat some time

19:36:01 bitcoinpete: so nao i'm curious who moderated that costa rica bet if not kakobrekla ? mircea_popescu ?

19:36:02 mircea_popescu: but who knows

19:36:03 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 12 @ 0.04532308 = 0.5439 BTC [+] {3}

19:36:10 davout: i rkn he still is

19:36:12 mircea_popescu: it's zhou and his collector friend just as well

19:36:21 kakobrekla: bitcoinpete neither of the said. :(

19:36:25 davout: raphael nicolle

19:36:32 davout: never met the dude

19:36:33 bitcoinpete: blargh!

19:36:39 mircea_popescu: davout you see my point.

19:36:49 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete you'll never know.

19:36:51 bitcoinpete: kakobrekla: can either of your adjudicate?

19:37:04 kakobrekla: if mp sez so

19:37:08 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: that's fine as long as my case can be plead

19:37:09 mircea_popescu: in principle eithger of us can, historically we never have.

19:37:14 mircea_popescu: go ahead

19:37:31 bitcoinpete: ty

19:37:44 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...know better than to get involved with the armed retinue of a lord...' << see interesting example - the private army of gazprom (said to contain own tank corps, aviation, etc.) - nobody fucks with it, scarcely anyone even mentions it.

19:37:46 mircea_popescu: pleas are to the gods anyway, rather than specific people.

19:37:55 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform indeed.

19:37:59 bitcoinpete: as previously mentioned, costa rica was playing its second world cup game on friday

19:38:26 bitcoinpete: there are 3 games in the opening round, though it's possible to advance after only two games

19:39:09 bitcoinpete: in the 55th minute, give or take a few, a bet was placed that costa rica would win the match and therefore advance

19:39:17 bitcoinpete: the bet was confirmed

19:39:28 bitcoinpete: with >30' of play remaining in the game

19:39:33 bitcoinpete: costa rica won the game

19:39:36 bitcoinpete: and advanced

19:39:57 bitcoinpete: this in-game bet was rejected

19:39:58 bitcoinpete: http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11

19:39:58 assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago

19:39:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...bright young men that hadn?t gone though the compiler and complexity modules of their CS programme' << i actually watched the beginnings of this change at my uni. various things were made optional, and the audiences became 'pocket sized'

19:40:00 mircea_popescu: http://bitbet.us/bet/921/costa-rica-will-advance-from-the-2014-world/#b11 this one you mean ?

19:40:00 assbot: BitBet - Costa Rica will advance from the 2014 World Cup group stage :: 0.41 B (35%) on Yes, 0.75 B (65%) on No | closed 2 days 17 hours ago

19:40:14 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: precisement

19:40:46 mircea_popescu: game was at 20 June 2014 13:00 gmt ?

19:41:08 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 5238 @ 0.00080226 = 4.2022 BTC [-]

19:42:05 bitcoinpete: just confirming...

19:42:07 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'operating systems' and 'compilers' (traditionally considered the gnarliest subjects in the department, outside of the required maths) were already optional and barely attended.

19:42:38 mircea_popescu: sucks, you know, to go to a place of learning for the purpose of not learning

19:42:38 bitcoinpete: http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/matches/round=255931/match=300186500/index.html#nosticky

19:42:39 assbot: 2014 FIFA World Cup Brazil: Italy-Costa Rica - Overview - FIFA.com

19:42:53 bitcoinpete: 13:00 local time

19:42:55 mircea_popescu: like going to work in a brothel as a rpude

19:43:03 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete so 16:00 gmt ?

19:43:14 asciilifeform: ;;ud rpude

19:43:15 gribble: Google found nothing.

19:43:24 mircea_popescu: prude

19:43:27 asciilifeform: Aha

19:43:50 bitcoinpete: recife is utc - 03:00

19:44:05 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete even if there's some sort of daylight savings time stuff, its 17;00 gmt at the latest, the bet is half hour or so after close

19:44:14 mircea_popescu: this may be because it took a while to confirm, but anyhow

19:46:09 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: that doesn't add up

19:46:22 bitcoinpete: game starts at 1600

19:46:31 bitcoinpete: half time at 1645

19:46:32 mircea_popescu: aha

19:46:40 bitcoinpete: restart game at 1700

19:46:55 bitcoinpete: bet confirmed at 1732

19:47:19 bitcoinpete: game concludes no later than 1750

19:47:31 mircea_popescu: wow check that out, it just HAILED in BA.

19:47:33 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete hm.

19:47:44 punkman: http://just-dice.blogspot.com/2014/06/betting-and-depositing-disabled-on-jd.html

19:47:44 assbot: Just-News @ Just-Dice: Betting and Depositing Disabled on JD and DD

19:47:52 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: my thoughts exactly

19:47:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: '...enforce their superiority over the popular guards' << http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=17-02-2014&bots=true#511301

19:47:59 assbot: #bitcoin-assets log

19:48:20 mircea_popescu: wow jd just closed ?

19:48:23 mircea_popescu: dooglus you selling it ?

19:49:12 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: so where do we go from here?

19:49:44 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete well, i see your point, ima have to argue nao.

19:49:56 asciilifeform: seems like it was banned ?

19:50:17 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform guy lives in canada

19:50:29 asciilifeform: right - banned there

19:51:42 FabianB: !mpif

19:51:43 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.00021726 BTC [+]

19:52:18 punkman: !jd --mpif

19:52:27 punkman: !jd mpif

19:52:28 assbot: Current MPIF account balance on Just-Dice: 172.25671059 BTC; -0.14834219 BTC (-0.0860%) since last check 1d 4h 17m 52s ago.

19:54:19 bitcoinpete: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-06-23/german-gold-stays-in-new-york-in-rebuff-to-euro-doubters.html

19:54:19 assbot: German Gold Stays in New York in Rebuff to Euro Doubters - Bloomberg

19:54:32 bitcoinpete: “Objectively, there’s absolutely no reason for mistrust.”

19:54:35 bitcoinpete: such lulz

19:54:54 bitcoinpete: "“The Americans are taking good care of our gold,” Norbert Barthle, the budget spokesman for Merkel’s Christian Democratic bloc in parliament, said in an interview. "

19:56:02 jurov: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-27973473 kinda related :D

19:56:02 assbot: BBC News - Poland leak: Radek Sikorski scorns 'worthless' US ties

19:56:26 jurov: "the Polish-US alliance isn't worth anything"

19:58:27 ThickAsThieves: <+mike_c> so ThickAsThieves, if you put a nameserver record in your DNS (NS, not an A record) pointing seeds.therealaltcoin.org at 54.197.241.190 // Having trouble finding where to do this in Namecheap... bear with me

20:02:05 Blazedout419: bitcoinpete you ever sell off those Lealana coins?

20:02:52 bitcoinpete: Blazedout419: nope

20:03:06 Blazedout419: My offer still stands anytime :)

20:04:48 mircea_popescu: !up ArsKisS

20:05:59 FabianB: dooglus is canadian? i thought australian

20:06:11 mircea_popescu: nah

20:06:12 fluffypony: http://i.imgur.com/SNrVRty.jpg

20:07:01 fluffypony: I am completely fascinated by my ability to sit on IRC on a plane

20:07:07 fluffypony: modern teknologiez

20:07:12 mircea_popescu: cool huh

20:07:27 mircea_popescu: business class + irc = no loner matters how long the flight is

20:07:47 fluffypony: exactly

20:07:59 mircea_popescu: is blondy bored ?

20:08:06 rithm: ah the bag o nuts

20:08:13 fluffypony: she's at home with the 6 dogs

20:08:18 fluffypony: so she's plenty busy

20:08:26 mircea_popescu: oh.

20:08:28 rithm: it's been a few years now since the 'ol bag of nuts and i were together

20:08:57 fluffypony: rithm: so you're saying you lost your nuts?

20:09:03 rithm: yep

20:12:28 mircea_popescu: meanwhile http://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcds7oq5uN1qc3ldvo1_500.jpg

20:14:01 mircea_popescu: ;;isitdown blockchain.info

20:14:02 gribble: blockchain.info is up

20:14:16 FabianB: hm. there was no bitbet for jd closure

20:14:52 mircea_popescu: indeed

20:16:05 ThickAsThieves: mike_c seeds.therealaltcoin.org is now set up as CNAME 54.197.241.190 - I don't think it's propagated yet tho

20:16:49 fluffypony: good job, ThickAsThieves

20:17:20 mircea_popescu: for mpif holders : dooglus paid, j.dice mpif investment withdrawn safely, https://blockchain.info/tx/c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f

20:17:20 assbot: Bitcoin Transaction c2236225dc87abbd2babcf99078976fc6b50d6819b41ed786049bbca1cb0a17f

20:17:49 fluffypony: mircea_popescu: like the whole investment withdrawn?

20:17:54 fluffypony: did I miss a blog post

20:18:05 mircea_popescu: fluffypony it's in the logs ya

20:18:11 mircea_popescu: (debb's post, not mine)

20:18:11 fluffypony: kk

20:19:02 mircea_popescu: and also, slut training footage : http://37.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mb8a78xrXV1ra163eo8_r1_250.gif

20:19:57 FabianB: hopefully no-one has bots trading on basis of http://www.btcalpha.com/mpif-tracker/ :)

20:19:58 assbot: F.MPIF Live Tracker - Btc Alpha

20:21:00 mircea_popescu: mike_c 0E-8 srsly ?

20:21:55 bitcoinpete: mircea_popescu: i'm off for today and i look forward to hearing from you on the costa rica bet. it would make a lovely birthday present!

20:22:07 fluffypony: bitcoinpete: turning 29 again?

20:22:19 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: getting there ;)

20:22:25 fluffypony: heh heh

20:22:37 bitcoinpete: fluffypony: have fun in estonia

20:22:46 fluffypony: I shall live blog it

20:23:01 bitcoinpete: make sure to include restaurant recommendations

20:23:15 bitcoinpete: cheers!

20:25:00 mircea_popescu: http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/162822/us-dollar-opens-steady-at-815-pesos-all-eyes-on-blue-dollar

20:25:05 mircea_popescu: heh

20:27:41 pankkake: http://youtu.be/bOR38552MJA

20:27:41 assbot: Blame Canada - South Park: Bigger Longer & Uncut (3/9) Movie CLIP (1999) HD - YouTube

20:32:18 pankkake: btw: http://bitbet.us/bet/617/and-then-there-was-one/?ref=1Eck6cgGzEb9N42CFhcsCBQhZQStoJbHRK

20:32:18 assbot: BitBet - And Then There Was One :: 7.59 B (56%) on Yes, 5.94 B (44%) on No | closing in 4 months 3 weeks | weight: 39`983 (100`000 to 1)

20:46:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0445 = 0.5785 BTC [-] {2}

20:52:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 15 @ 0.04667441 = 0.7001 BTC [+] {3}

20:53:19 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 16700 @ 0.0008043 = 13.4318 BTC [+]

21:05:31 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 33873 @ 0.00080304 = 27.2014 BTC [-] {2}

21:08:34 assbot: [MPEX] [FN] [F.MPIF] 3000 @ 0.0002151 = 0.6453 BTC [-]

21:15:57 mike_c: 0e-8 is more zero than 0

21:16:06 danielpbarron: https://twitter.com/danielpbarron/status/481122040217616384

21:16:07 assbot: I just ran into a fellow /hashtag/bitcoin?src=hash-assets user at /hashtag/porcfest?src=hash! That's worth a +2 in the /hashtag/WoT?src=hash. http://t.co/oI2PHHgK6u

21:16:27 fluffypony: dat /hashtag/

21:16:45 fluffypony: right, going to try sleep a bit, cheers

21:16:47 danielpbarron: kyuupichan, you can voice yourself now :D

21:18:44 TheNewDeal: wtf is porcfest

21:19:51 danielpbarron: libertarian tent-city

21:20:53 TheNewDeal: ahhhh not bad

21:21:09 TheNewDeal: not a porcupine freedom festival?

21:21:17 danielpbarron: ya that's it

21:21:37 TheNewDeal: looks kinda like a hippy fest

21:21:57 danielpbarron: hippies with guns

21:22:07 TheNewDeal: ooooh

21:22:07 mike_c: !mpif

21:22:07 assbot: BtcAlpha.com F.MPIF Tracker estimated NAV per share: 0.00021746 BTC (Total: 434.93 BTC). Last trade for F.MPIF on MPEX was at 0.0002151 BTC [-]

21:25:10 TheNewDeal: gotta go scout the hotel happy hour

21:25:27 TheNewDeal: hydrate with some free light beer

21:27:53 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 14954 @ 0.00080025 = 11.9669 BTC [-] {3}

21:28:18 mike_c: ;;later tell ThickAsThieves it needs to be a NS record, not a CNAME

21:28:18 gribble: The operation succeeded.

21:32:10 TheNewDeal: scratch that, bringing the laptop and making this a party

21:46:09 jborkl: finished up the "block found by" and I will be putting that online tomorrow

21:47:12 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [B.SELL] 70 @ 0.02162138 = 1.5135 BTC [+] {10}

21:53:18 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 60 @ 0.04698667 = 2.8192 BTC [+] {4}

21:53:53 mircea_popescu: !up l337

21:55:20 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 36 @ 0.04699966 = 1.692 BTC [+] {3}

21:55:25 l337: thanks. any plans on purchasing JD if doog is up for selling it mircea_popescu?

21:55:35 mircea_popescu: maybe.

21:56:30 l337: would be awesome

21:58:57 TheNewDeal: how does JD continue to exist? Don't stupid people go broke?

21:59:38 mthreat: ya, then take loans

21:59:58 mike_c: on the one hand, casinos have been around since.. forever. on the other, JD volume has been dropping.

22:00:14 mike_c: but who knows why

22:01:08 TheNewDeal: true about casinos

22:01:13 pankkake: more gambling venues?

22:01:51 mike_c: like who? its dropped a lot. set new all-time-lows 3 out of 6 months this year.

22:02:45 mike_c: could be player-fatigue (rolling dice is only so much fun). could be competition, but i don't know who.

22:03:17 mike_c: still though, 60k in wager volume a month is a nice business.

22:03:56 mircea_popescu: bitcoinpete teh court finds your arguments persuasive.

22:04:20 mircea_popescu: mike_c that "a month" kinda impleis it's stable. it's not that stable it seems.

22:05:04 mike_c: hm. a return to 6 digit wager volume would surprise me. but it's quite possible new management could make it happen.

22:06:08 mike_c: first 8 months were all > 100k, last 4 months were all well below.

22:07:32 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 23750 @ 0.00079488 = 18.8784 BTC [-]

22:08:33 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 20 @ 0.04799999 = 0.96 BTC [+] {2}

22:09:02 mike_c: certainly still has some value. i'm sure he will get multiple offers.

22:10:43 []bot: Bet placed: 1 BTC for No on "Bitcoin price above $800 before July" http://bitbet.us/bet/799/ Odds: 28(Y):72(N) by coin, 29(Y):71(N) by weight. Total bet: 10.16199681 BTC. Current weight: 5,498.

22:11:30 TheNewDeal: Return is still to high not to attract bets...

22:11:58 TheNewDeal: 5.4% over 8 days

22:12:03 mircea_popescu: provided he even wants to sell.

22:12:47 mike_c: this seems like a pretext to get out, no? but maybe he just wants to walk away.

22:14:28 mircea_popescu: mike_c he could just keep it on play money for a month or w/e while he moves to argentina.

22:14:41 mike_c: hehe. true.

22:15:40 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 100 @ 0.047 = 4.7 BTC [-] {2}

22:16:41 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 21 @ 0.04547644 = 0.955 BTC [-] {2}

22:16:58 TheNewDeal: who runs JD?

22:17:24 mike_c: dooglus

22:17:43 TheNewDeal: he's joining the MP crowd in LaArgentina?

22:18:14 mthreat: wow that rumor didn't take long

22:18:33 mircea_popescu: lol

22:19:01 TheNewDeal: didn't take mp to be a rumorist

22:19:05 TheNewDeal: my bad

22:19:05 mircea_popescu: honestly, him selling out'd be a net negative for btc

22:19:12 mircea_popescu: how many competen managers do you know of ?

22:19:26 jborkl: 2

22:20:02 mircea_popescu: jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ?

22:20:05 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal what did I do!

22:20:14 jborkl: hahahahaha, oh man

22:20:19 jborkl: I sharted

22:20:31 TheNewDeal: starting rumors about your posse in argentina of course

22:21:10 mircea_popescu: TheNewDeal you know mthreat is in argentina right ?

22:21:16 TheNewDeal: if you need a grease monkey to work on your machines, give me a call

22:21:20 TheNewDeal: CNC *

22:23:18 l337: mircea_popescu: is doog moving to argentina because of this?

22:23:33 mircea_popescu: lol how would i know!

22:24:00 mircea_popescu: i merely pointed out extemporaneously that he doesnm't have to necessarily sell or close down

22:24:10 mircea_popescu: he could just get out of fucktardlandia too

22:24:16 l337: got it, I took it literally what you said

22:25:01 jborkl: nm got the "found by" online now just have to fill in a few blanks

22:27:52 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 48 @ 0.04342691 = 2.0845 BTC [-] {2}

22:28:16 mike_c: www.coindesk.com/mp-says-dooglus-moving-to-argentina/

22:28:21 penguirker: New blog post: http://www.bcoinnews.com/betting-just-dice-halted-due-regulation/

22:28:51 mircea_popescu: this is trollage!

22:29:12 benkay: <mircea_popescu> jborkl winkleloss #1 and #2 right ? // they actually *hire* managers, if you'd believe it.

22:29:53 mircea_popescu: benkay im sure they do, because with their great reputation there's a bunch of smart, qualified people wanting to work for them.

22:30:08 mircea_popescu: brb while i get my snark refilled

22:30:14 mircea_popescu: that sentence taped me out.

22:31:02 benkay: well they still have to work their asses off to hire both the managers and those who toil under the managers.

22:32:22 mircea_popescu: they could just post on reddit.

22:33:58 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 13 @ 0.0430001 = 0.559 BTC [-] {2}

22:37:01 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [PETA] 53 @ 0.04205659 = 2.229 BTC [-] {4}

22:39:37 asciilifeform: betcha plenty of folks would move to Ar, but... are waiting for mircea_popescu to terraform it.

22:39:50 TheNewDeal: lol

22:39:58 TheNewDeal: with cocaine ecoli?

22:40:15 mircea_popescu: no they just don't like tight cona

22:40:21 asciilifeform: build the radiation dome, fill with breathable air, impale the capital controls idiots, etc

22:46:10 assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] 3 @ 0.2048 = 0.6144 BTC [+]

22:46:11 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 22800 @ 0.00079322 = 18.0854 BTC [-] {2}

22:46:15 *: asciilifeform found out that japan still makes hardware 'word processors.' mindfuck of the day.

22:47:08 benkay: link or gtfo

22:47:10 mircea_popescu: coincidentally, i saw one today

22:47:17 asciilifeform: ;;google pomera word processor

22:47:18 gribble: Pomera DM 100 Distraction free Word processor - Japanese product ...: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ipTkrdFeJ7A; Digital Memo Pomera : DigInfo - YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqXnknebD0s; King Jim Pomera DM10 – the pocket friendly word-processor | The ...: http://www.redferret.net/?p=12249

22:47:29 asciilifeform: ^ actual electrical appliance where you key in and save plain ascii.

22:49:12 asciilifeform: (my position on the subject: http://www.loper-os.org/?p=861&cpage=1#comment-2909)

22:49:14 assbot: Loper OS » Engelbart’s Violin

22:49:38 asciilifeform: 'I would dearly love a dedicated word processor... runs for months on one battery charge, never crashes, presents no distractions, and, shortly, isn?t a PC. Not being a PC (or, more specifically, not running a PC operating system) is a truly under-rated and beautiful feature in any gadget.'

22:55:03 asciilifeform: i always found it interesting how much functionality one... loses by rolling a 'general purpose' computer into a product. not even concerning security and the like.

22:55:50 asciilifeform: i've seen actual novelists confess to owning '80s laptops which... boot into 'wordstar.' but try using one away from mains current.

22:58:31 jurov: kindle variant with physical keyboard isn't far actually

22:58:59 asciilifeform: jurov: you must mean something other than the keyboard already found on that machine ?

22:59:07 asciilifeform: because it's quite unusable

23:00:10 jurov: yes it needs better keyboard, and hinge

23:00:37 asciilifeform: and an os that doesn't bomb

23:00:49 jurov: would such device ever pay for itself?

23:01:19 asciilifeform: perhaps in japan. where they seem to remember the appeal of 'machine that does one thing well.'

23:04:54 Mats_cd03: best burrito i ever had was in .jp

23:05:16 Mats_cd03: and ive lived in socal and mexico.

23:08:33 assbot: [MPEX] [S.MPOE] 13600 @ 0.00078845 = 10.7229 BTC [-]